haekymbahd:
wow!!!

haekymbahd:
sir but can one love Jesus with hypocrisy and still cast demon out, prophecy in his name and perform miracles... Or Jesus meant people collecting power from other source and using it in his name.

FlourishE30:
Let's continue, now if we love God we will not worship idolatry, what do I mean here, most of have different idols we worship, examples making your work, business, trade,farm, your wife, husband, children and even our bodies, looking good as the most important thing in our lives, when anything is first in our lives then that thing as taking the place of God, and that is idolatry,God is a jealous God and won't share His glory with anything He created,we must do the work of God before our own, what did Jesus said,He said His meat is to do the work of the Father,we must take God's work serious as if our lives depends on it, of course it does because without Him we are nothing,we must preach the gospel,we must live according to God standard in truth and in spirit,not pleasing men or drawing attention to ourselves,but do that which God want of us,we must serve and worship Him all the time,we must live a life of righteousness, love Him more than we love ourselves;stop pretencious lifestyle,we must make sure the kind of life we live in the public is same we live in our privacy,then love our neighbors as ourselves,help when we can and when necessary, pray for our brothers in Christ,admonish each other, correct each other in love, stop living the life of this world,we must be blind to things the world like and deaf to the music, words and saying of this world:we must be separated from things that the children of this world glory in, that is love.God has a standard and we must live according to his standard to be His own, must must not talk, dress,sing,think,act and love what gives the children of this world joy.We must be different and know God by reading and meditating on His word,it must not leaves our mouth, and again we must ask for His spirit of wisdom and knowledge to understand His words because the word of God is spirit and life,we can't understand it with our academical knowledge or understanding.��

. . Or Jesus meant people collecting power from other source and using it in his name.

Petrall:
quote author=haekymbahd post=91487154] sir but can one love Jesus with hypocrisy and still cast demon out, prophecy in his name and perform miracles..

Yes its possible. If God gives a man gift , he doesn't take it back even if he is not living right . Except the individual walks out on the gift

Romans 11:29
For God’s gifts and his call can never be withdrawn.




. . Or Jesus meant people collecting power from other source and using it in his name.

It may be applicable too . But the major thing is that they were jesus people who backslide in character
they are jesus people. But they have evil work .

haekymbahd:
What could be the consequence of one who accepts Jesus as lord and saviour yet fails to do follow this you listed because it seems one can accept Jesus as lord and still cast out demons, perform miracles, and prophesy in his name without following all you listed? I stand to be corrected.

haekymbahd:
Can we say accepting Jesus as lord and saviour is enough to enter God's kingdom cos from the verse I see a case of people getting shocked by what they will meet?

haekymbahd:
So people might be transgressing and still think they are on the right path because they are able to use the name of Jesus and it works.

haekymbahd:
Does it necessarily has to be evil work or not following Jesus commandments which I think is the will of God?
Well I am not a christain though but these are some of the things that confuses me about christsinity I am only asking this because I hear people say to me accept Jesus as lord and Savior and you are saved I am thinking could that actually be enough?

haekymbahd:
Why do most Christians not talk the about the work cos I feel it is different from accepting Jesus as lord. Maybe its because I am not a Christian that's why I can't understand.

haekymbahd:
Is Jesus dieing for our sin cancelling all the works or certain ones so we don't need to do anything or some. Note I am not a Christian maybe if I was I would have understood neither am I an atheist I believe in God.

Kobojunkie:

Well I am not a christain though but these are some of the things that confuses me about christsinity I am only asking this because I hear people say to me accept Jesus as lord and Savior and you are saved I am thinking could that actually be enough?Oh, it is enough! But "accepting Jesus Christ" is more than just intellectual gymnastics. According to Jesus Christ, it involves the obedience of several commandments in order to accomplish even that.
Why do most Christians not talk the about the work cos I feel it is different from accepting Jesus as lord. Maybe its because I am not a Christian that's why I can't understand.Sadly, most are ignorant of the truth of what Jesus Christ stipulated over 2000 years ago. And this is because many of them listen to Pastors/Preachers/GOs/Prophets who are themselves equally ignorant or simply deceitful.
Is Jesus dieing for our sin cancelling all the works or certain ones so we don't need to do anything or some. Note I am not a Christian maybe if I was I would have understood neither am I an atheist I believe in God.Jesus Christ's death, resurrection, and ascension made complete the promise of the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ. He is a package that includes about 46 commandments that all those who choose the Covenant that is Jesus Christ are expected to obey in order to enjoy the promise of Life both here and beyond, that the New Covenant brings to man.
His death does not cancel the New Covenant, it simply makes it complete, so that we can begin to by obeying His commandments, enjoy the Life He offers.

haekymbahd:
What do Christians mean by 'Grace' and how can we now relate it to what you posted?

haekymbahd:
Does it necessarily has to be evil work or not following Jesus commandments which I think is the will of God?

Well I am not a christain though but these are some of the things that confuses me about christsinity I am only asking this because I hear people say to me accept Jesus as lord and Savior and you are saved I am thinking could that actually be enough. That's why I want to what is is truly the will of the father Jesus was talking about?

Well someone has mention some earlier though is there a standard so one might know when he or she has transgressed.

Petrall:


Jesus was clear . They had evil work



Get saved now . Ask questions later . Jesus is the only way of salvation. The man who rejects Jesus remains in darkness and doomed.

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.





As I said above ,leave the questions now.
You can't understand spiritual truth until you receive salvation. Get saved now . That's what counts ask questions later .

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

When you get saved. The holy spirit himself will teach you truth . Dont be afraid you may sin , dont be afraid you will lose salvation, even if you sin . All you need do is to repent and ask for forgiveness. Jesus can never rejects you m those who will get rejected are those who left the faith and deny his lordship.

haekymbahd:
Thanks for your reply bro but is it possible to accept Christ and cast out demons, prophecy, and perform miracles in his name genuinely and still not do God's will I thought that was what Jesus was trying to say in that verse I stand to be corrected.

Wakeupchristian:


If you are truly seeking, you will stop mixing issues.
You did not mention anything about casting out demons or miracles in your post, neither did I mention them in my response.
Doing the will of the Almighty has got nothing to do with those things. When you strive towards the Light, demons don't get connected to you so you won't have a need for the "casting out". Light only attracts light. That's what I believe and nothing else.

haekymbahd:
Thanks for your reply bro but is it possible to accept Christ and cast out demons, prophecy, and perform miracles in his name genuinely and still not do God's will I thought that was what Jesus was trying to say in that verse I stand to be corrected.

haekymbahd:
well it was part of my post some people have raised their views on it already thanks for your input... U know one needs to clarify its doubt before diving into somethings. I only brought this for discussion cos it was one of the issues confusing me about christainity I didn't want to base on my own view I wanted the view of Christians to avoid misconception.

haekymbahd:
Can someone explain what Jesus meant here?
And what does he meant by will of God? I'm confused.

Kobojunkie:
Accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord means you submit/trust Him and Obey His every teaching and commandment, God's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of God. God's Law is God's Will!

FlourishE30:
■ What Jesus meant is this; that we should do His will if we claimed to love Him, because you can't love someone and not do what will make the person happy,if you truly love someone you will do everything possible not to offend the person, same thing apply here,we don't love God but we claim we do while His simple commandments we can't keep, Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments, and what are these commandments? that we should love God with all our hearts,mind,soul and with all our strength,and the second is like it too, love your neighbor as your self,on these two hangs/lies or the prophets or the rest commandments.I will be back let me wash my hair.

■ Its talking about hypocrisy. Those who dont love him from the heart . They claim part of christ but their works and character is evil.

Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.