vicenzo:


Ikwerre claiming Bini is not the problem.

Problem is that once they claim Bini, they will always be left with the arduous task of explaining away their current Igbo language.

This is the nitty gritty. To explain away their current Igbo language, Ikwerre have chosen to present Ndiigbo in the mould of invaders and rulers who ruled over them and imposed our language on them so much that they lost their imaginary Bini language.
The Ikwerre nationalism is built around deep seated Igbophobia and need to hate the Igbo, show hostility to us and never fail to throw dirts at us,all in attempt to prove to their non Igbo neighbors that they are not Igbo.

Ikwerre Bini revisionism cannot stand without Ikwerres first of all distorting the Igbo history to either present us in the mould of demons who ruled and intimidated them before Gowon saved them , or in the mould of Super humans who had the ability to turn a Bini speaking people into Igbo speakers with no iota of Bini in their culture or language to show for such language switch, just by merely interacting with them.

Its in trying to correct this that the Igbo appears to be forcing Ikwerre to be Igbo, when all we are doing is protecting our own history.

Ikwerre have right to claim whatever they want, but a people history don't exist in isolation from their neighbours. Their right to claim Bini, stops where ours to question how we turned them Igbo speakers begins.

History lesson:

1) the eastern region was dominated by the Igbo !
2) Portharcourt was part of the eastern region.

Look the fact they speak a language similar to yours doesn't give you any sort of lordship over them.
You guys are really mentally ill.

The Igbo are not even mentioned. The Ikwere have said they are Benin descendants. This doesn't concern Igbo.
They don't have to justify anything to you nor to ask you permission !

The way you guys are pained is beyond me.
You are so bad at history that it doesn't even feel right to call you revisionists, you are just ignorant people.

You don't know them better than they know themselves, they are Benin descendants !

Bkayyy:

The access to sea ipob is looking for, ikwerre no get
Reasonable human beings, ikwerre no get
Oil, ikwerre no get
Innovative mind them still no get

Ipob dey fall hand seriously.

But what about Ohanaeze Ndiigbo? Those useless lots still have Ikwerrre persons in their midsts holding sensitive positions.
You can imagine an Ikwerre man is currently Ohanaeze Ndiigbo Secretary General.

Thats how useless the organisation is.
We really have a leadership vacuum in Igboland, that's exactly what Ikwerre people are exploiting.

Sanity33:


History lesson:

1) the eastern region was dominated by the Igbo !
2) Portharcourt was part of the eastern region.

Look the fact they speak a language similar to yours doesn't give you any sort of lordship over them.
You guys are really mentally ill.

What is the link between this your post and my post?
Are you well oriented in person, time and place?

I mean, are you alright?

vicenzo:


What is the link between this your post and my post?
Are you well oriented in person, time and place?

I mean, are you alright?

You: "To explain away their current Igbo language, Ikwerre have chosen to present Ndiigbo in the mould of invaders and rulers who ruled over them and imposed our language on them so much that they lost their imaginary Bini language."

Me:

"History lesson:

1) the eastern region was dominated by the Igbo !
2) Portharcourt was part of the eastern region."


So appart from being ignorant, you are also very slow.

Bkayyy:

You sound like a fellow historian.

All these ikwerre brouhaha is all about politics and economical warfare
The ikwerre claiming bini is to cockhold Ndigbo and increase their political gain
The ipob trying to assimilate them back is to retain and revive the igbos image and protect their economy

Sanity33:

Wow.
Actually I proved that the title Oba is from Benin and was copied by the Yoruba in the 1930's.
You are in the business of propagating falsehood. I prefer rather proving things which I claim.
And you are a revisionist.
You clearly know nothing about history.
I dare you to show a picture or text dated to the 1890's in which any Yoruba is described by the word "Oba".

Proved? You are indeed a fool

Ceaseless displays of ignorance and childishness screaming the same thing over and over again with a hundred monikers is not "proof"

Screenshot from "Africa and its inhabitants" by French Geographer and Writer Elisee Reclus (1899)
https://archive.org/details/africaitsinhabit02recl/page/264/mode/2up?q=obba

vicenzo:


Ipob dey fall hand seriously.

But what about Ohanaeze Ndiigbo? Those useless lots still have Ikwerrre persons in their midsts holding sensitive positions.
You can imagine an Ikwerre man is currently Ohanaeze Ndiigbo Secretary General.

Thats how useless the organisation is.
We really have a leadership vacuum in Igboland, that's exactly what Ikwerre people are exploiting.

I just addressed that. The only problem is that some online warriors here are just pawns in this game.
The question right now is what does bini stand to gain?
The answer is simply number, we all know how our ethnocentric political system works, becoming one of the major ethnicity in this country makes the FG take your requests seriously . So my brother it's all about politics and economy

HopeAtHand:


You are obviously a dunce. You're sounding like 3Million people are infinitesimal, when clearly there are states in Nigeria with about that population. Bayelsa is even less than that. And there are also countries in this world with fewer population.

Everything to you idiiots is a point for argument.

Keep kwayet Dumbo, A discussion about tribe suddenly became about state,in Ur stupidity you Failed to Acknowledge that a states population accounts strictly for Home based while a tribes population is usually total global population as in the case of ikwerre, You are a half Smart Dumbass thinking he is smart

Sanity33:


You: "To explain away their current Igbo language, Ikwerre have chosen to present Ndiigbo in the mould of invaders and rulers who ruled over them and imposed our language on them so much that they lost their imaginary Bini language."

Me:

"History lesson:

1) the eastern region was dominated by the Igbo !
2) Portharcourt was part of the eastern region."


So appart from being ignorant, you are also very slow.

Ndiigbo were never Ezes of Ikwerre, neither did we ever impose Igbolanguage on Ikwerre people.
Willink commission showed that Ndiigbo were fair with all in Eastern region.

So I wonder the link between my post and yours.
There are more than 20 ethnic nationalities in the Eastern region, none were ruled by Ndiigbo. They had their local political reps and traditional rulers.
Eastern region was a democracy not an Empire and Ndiigbo only had real control over the region for 6yrs, between 1960 and 1966.

Bkayyy:

I just addressed that. The only problem is that some online warriors here are just pawns in this game.
The question right now is what does bini stand to gain?
The answer is simply number, we all know how our ethnocentric political system works, becoming one of the major ethnicity in this country makes the FG take your requests seriously . So my brother it's all about politics and economy

What is the,population of Ikwerre to give Bini majority status.

A unity formed out of falsehood will never stand the test of time. If adding Ikwerre and other Bini claiming Igboid groups like Ogba, Ekpeye and Etche will make Binis majority group overnight, then I wish them goodluck.

For Ndiigbo, unity with Igbophobic and bitter Igboid groups in SS is counter productive, its like harbouring a snake in your house or a mad rabies infected dog. Its only a matter of when and not if, before it bites you, and you migh not survive the bite.
With 5 SE states, we are already a majority group.
We don't need confused Bini wannabes if we know what we are doing. We should be the ones rejecting them and returning their hate back to them.
But when I look at Ohanaeze Ndiigbo and see an Ikwerre man as its Secretary General, or I see Igbos claiming Ikwerre people despite the ridicule and insults they bring to us, I come to the realization that Ndiigbo really lack direction and don't know what we are doing.

the whole tribal war on nairaland needs to stop sha.

OfoIgbo:


You will also have to change Ikwerre town names like RumuIgbo, which clearly means IGBO PEOPLE, and RumuIbekwe which clearly means IBEKWE's children.

Or even better, non Igbos from Ikwerreland may have to vacate any Ikwerre town with an Igbo sounding name, as they are clearly Igbo towns.

I hope you don't ask non Igbo to vacate Ijebu Igbo in Ogun State or Oke Igbo in Ondo or Igbo Ora in Oyo State.

vicenzo:


What is the,population of Ikwerre to give Bini majority status.

A unity formed out of falsehood will never stand the test of time. If adding Ikwerre and other Bini claiming Igboid groups like Ogba, Ekpeye and Etche will make Binis majority group overnight, then I wish them goodluck.

For Ndiigbo, unity with Igbophobic and bitter Igboid groups in SS is counter productive, its like harbouring a snake in your house or a mad rabies infected dog. Its only a matter of when and not if, before it bites you.
With 5 SE states, we are already a majority group.
We don't need confused Bini wannabes if we know what we are doing. We should be the ones rejecting them and returning their hate back to them.
But when I look at Ohanaeze Ndiigbo and see an Ikwerre man as its Secretary General, or I see Igbos claiming Ikwerre people despite the ridicule and insults they bring to us, I come to h realization that Ndiigbo really lack direction and don't know what we are doing.

What they are doing now is what they did to clinch that secretary general in ohaneze Ndigbo, they worked on the members emotions and they fumbled, now they are trying to use this igbo exit to gain needed popularity across igbo land but it will backfire because right now the igbos are now looking towards homogeneity

IspitonCowards:
Please How many Local governments do they have?, I heard they are the largest tribe in SS

You are definitely ignorant of Nigeria's tribal composition.

Ibibios are the fourth largest tribe in Nigeria and the largest in the South South.
Ijaw is the fifth largest in Nigeria and the second largest in the South South.

Ikwerre isn't a tribe but a relatively small ethnic group. The Oros in Akwa Ibom are even larger than Ikwerre.

Sanity33:

Yes, I think a lot of them are kids.
I am 33, I used to post on this forum when I was 21.
From time to time I just check it and when I see some crazy illogical statements I just feel the urge to open an account and correct the record. Then soon after I deactivate the account because too many trolls always try to drag me into endless back-and-forth discussions.
These guys don't believe in logics.

Yes i agree, immaturity and ignorance, am learning to ignore them.

IkwerrePikin:


Ikwerre has 4 local govts: Port harcourt, Emohua, Ikwerre and Obio-apkor.

Brief history of Ikwerre:

Ikwerre settlements have their roots traceable from the old Benin Empire.” Iwhnurọhna people (Ikwerre) descended from the ancient Bini Kingdom. The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka.

Their relations in Rivers State are Ekpeye and Ogba people. The reigning Oba of Benin when Akalaka, the ancestor of Ihruọha (later called Iwhnurọhna) fled was Oba Ewuare (Ogwaro). Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled in the 13th century on allegation of plotting assassination of the Oba. He died in 1462. Iwhnurọhna his third son settled east of the Sombrero River by 1538 AD

You Fulani bastard, I challenge you once again to reply me with Ikwere language to prove that you're actually an Ikwere person. And by the way I know that this nonsense you're yapping up there is according to how it handed to you by your employers, because I know you don't know that AKALAKA is an Igbo language which means DESTINY do you see why Fulani nomads will always remain nomads? Because you're never intelligent, you reason like your cows.

Bkayyy:

What they are doing now is what they did to clinch that presidency in ohaneze Ndigbo, they worked on the members emotions and they fumbled, now they are trying to use this igbo exit to gain needed popularity across igbo land but it will backfire because right now the igbos are now looking towards homogeneity

Well thats the big problem we have.
Putting emotions ahead of pragmatism.
It makes it easy for other groups to exploit us.

Naturally, there is no difference between how the average Yoruba bigot see the Igboman and how the Ikwerre see the Igbo. In fact, the Ikwerre is worst.
The Igbo man who has ever lived in Ph knows this. The Ikwerres never fail to show him hate and ridicule every single day, yet because an Ikwerre bear an Igbo name or speak an igbo dialect, the emotional Igbo will want to pretend like he can't see how Igbophobic these people are.
I personally will choose a Yoruba man over an Ikwerre, because Yorubas are far away from me.

Many times an Ikwerre man posts something on NL and an.average Igbo will start calling the Ikwerre man afonja, because he is yet to grasp the fact that there is no difference between Ikwerre and Yoruba . If in doubt, go to Ikwerre rant HQ Facebook page and see real Ikwerres.

Our people are living in illusions , and don't want to wake up. If not, this Ikwerre issue should have been done with by now, but here we are in 2020 still going in circles.

DissTroy:


You are definitely ignorant of Nigeria's tribal composition.

Ibibios are the fourth largest tribe in Nigeria and the largest in the South South.
Ijaw is the fifth largest in Nigeria and the second largest in the South South.

Ikwerre isn't a tribe but a relatively small ethnic group. The Oros in Akwa Ibom are even larger than Ikwerre.

True, ikwerre is just a community in rivers but do you believe that ibibio and ijaw are more than nupe or kanuri in population?

NLandIsHypocrit:
You Fulani bastard, I challenge you once again to reply me with Ikwere language to prove that you're actually an Ikwere person. And by the way I know that this nonsense you're yapping up there is according to how it handed to you by your employers, because I know you don't know that AKALAKA is an Igbo language which means DESTINY do you see why Fulani nomads will always remain nomads? Because you're never intelligent, you reason like your cows.

He is likely an Ikwerre man.
I know many of them on facebook, and they regurgitate everything tha poster do here.

Even if he is an impostor, he is representing Ikwerre views very well, which is why you would notice that no Ikwerre man have ever challenged him on this forum.
Their silence is a well calculated affirmation and support to his posts.
You should watch Ogbakor Ikwerre meetings on U tube too if you can.

Its time Ndiigbo start knowing the Ikwerres for who they truly are, because some of us are living in ignorance as far as Ikwerre attitude and manners towards Ndiigbo are concerned.

vicenzo:


Well thats the big problem we have.
Putting emotions ahead of pragmatism.
It makes it easy for other groups to exploit us.

Naturally, there is no difference between how the average Yoruba bigot see the Igboman and how the Ikwerre see the Igbo. In fact, the Ikwerre is worst.
The Igbo man who has ever lived in Ph knows this. The Ikwerres never fail to show him hate and ridicule every single day, yet because an Ikwerre bear an Igbo name or speak an igbo dialect, the emotional Igbo will want to pretend like he can't see how Igbophobic these people are.
I personally will choose a Yoruba man over an Ikwerre, because Yorubas are far away from me.

Many times an Ikwerre man posts something on NL and an.average Igbo will start calling the Ikwerre man afonja, because he is yet to grasp the fact that there is no difference between Ikwerre and Yoruba . If in doubt, go to Ikwerre rant HQ Facebook page and see real Ikwerres.

Our people are living in illusions , and don't want to wake up. If not, this Ikwerre issue should have been done with by now, but here we are in 2020 still going in circles.

Wisdom, onye mu na ya so achu nta so na ukwu mu di ka ukwu anu m gbaa ya m gbaa ma anu. Anu na ebe ka m si ebe na eri ka m si eri chiputa m ukwu n'ama si na mu yiri anu ozo m gbaa ya ogige
They say the devil that you know is better than the angel you don't know. I still maintain that the best business associates in Nigeria are hausa and Igbo quote me anywhere
But you see those people that choose to identity with any ethnic group of their choice whenever they see fit are like harlots with no commitment, they are worse than snake
People like that bring nothing but embarrassment and public disgrace to the the ethnicity that harbours them
They are quick to learn your language and customs but will shame you in public with it that you cannot deny that they were not initially part of you and after that they will jump to the next available naive ethnicity

IkwerrePikin:


Ikwerre has four local govt areas: Port harcourt, Emuoha, Ikwerre and Obio-akpor with a population of approximately 3million indigenous people.

What's the difference between Obio akpor and Port Harcourt LGA ?

They both have separate LGA council headquarters?

Different council Chairman

Or u just want to sound intelligent?

IkwerrePikin:


Ikwerre has four local govt areas: Port harcourt, Emuoha, Ikwerre and Obio-akpor with a population of approximately 3million indigenous people.

Ikwerre has 3.5 LGAs. You share PHLGA with Okrika people.

3 million Ikwerre people?

I doubt.

At most 1.5 million and that's me being generous.

But amaechi is claiming that he is an igbo man.

I guess he did not get the memo.

RTSC:
But amaechi is claiming that he is an igbo man.

I guess he did not get the memo.

He is claiming igbo because of his presidential ambition

Bkayyy:

He is claiming igbo because of his presidential ambition

That is because he has a legitimate claim.

A Uhrobo man cannot claim he is igbo because of the presidency.

It would look stupid.

Bkayyy:

He is claiming igbo because of his presidential ambition

Some Igbos are brainless.

How difficult is it to see that Amaechi is only claiming Igbo now because he wants Igbo backing for presidency.

Our people annoy the hell out of me. How can we make ourselves this easy for opportunists to manipulate.

Amaechi is a bonafide member of Ogbakor Ikwerre and have never for once openly challenged Ogbakor Ikwerre anti Igbo stance.

But he tell you he is Igbo to scam you, and because you are an emotional being incapable of reasoning, you swallow it hook , line and sinker, you are too blind to see the con game at play.


Amaechi is Igbo my foot! We are waiting for him.and those retarded Igbos coming to sell the scam. We will reset their brains.

Ndi ara! Amaechi bu Igbo kpokwa ha oku ebe ahu. Ndi uche ha ezughi ezu. Achoro ili gi, yet imaghi. Ina enyelu onye cholu iri gi mugu aka.

Amaechi bu Bini. When he is tired of wearing Isiagu to deceive gullible Igbos, he will go and change into his Ijaw or Bini proper tire. Some of us are not stupid.

macof:

Proved? You are indeed a fool

Ceaseless displays of ignorance and childishness screaming the same thing over and over again with a hundred monikers is not "proof"

Screenshot from "Africa and its inhabitants" by French Geographer and Writer Elisee Reclus (1899)
https://archive.org/details/africaitsinhabit02recl/page/264/mode/2up?q=obba

Précolonial text from 1880 calling the Oba of Benin by the title "Oba":

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5806879x/f13.image.r=Oba

I am still waiting for a text of that era calling any Yoruba by the title Oba. That is how you prove your claim.
But you can't. Because your chiefs copied the title Oba in the 1930's. There is no text of the 1890's calling any Yoruba by the title Oba. We know you can insult, but can you prove what you claim ?

By the way, this text also shows that the Oba of Benin had authority over the Yoruba and the jebu. Thanks for motivating me to dig this paper out ! I had been focussing on precolonial maps alone while there are also a lot of precolonial texts as well.

Areafada, Samuk, davidnazee, gregyboy

RTSC:

That is because he has a legitimate claim.

A Uhrobo man cannot claim he is igbo because of the presidency.

It would look stupid.

He has no legitimate claim whatsoever.

His group Ikwerre are independent from Igbo.
He can't represent Ndiigbo. One can't be Igbo just by claiming Igbo at convenient time.

An Ikwerre man can't claim Igbo ,he will look stupid . Ikwerre is Bini.
And when the time is right, real Igbos will make sure Amaechi and any person and group trying to project him as Igbo, look stupid.

Amaechi will soon be made to understand the reason we use this phrase "Igbo bu Igbo" in Igbo gatherings.

DissTroy:


You are definitely ignorant of Nigeria's tribal composition.

Ibibios are the fourth largest tribe in Nigeria and the largest in the South South.
Ijaw is the fifth largest in Nigeria and the second largest in the South South.

Ikwerre isn't a tribe but a relatively small ethnic group. The Oros in Akwa Ibom are even larger than Ikwerre.

Ok thanks for the clarification, so Ikwerre is like the minority among the Minority which is you guys?

Bkayyy:

The access to sea ipob is looking for, ikwerre no get
Reasonable human beings, ikwerre no get
Oil, ikwerre no get
Innovative mind them still no get

In Ikwerreland you see Doctors, engineers, Directors, Accountants, Scientists, Professors, Vice Chancellors, Governors, Judges, lawyers, Senior Advocates of Nigeria including two former national presidents of the Nigerian Bar Association where some Igbo states can’t even boast of one.

The reasonable human beings and innovative minds that the Ikwerre people don’t have but abounds in Igboland includes, drug peddlers to China, Vietnam, Thailand, India, Pakistan, Brasil etc. who when they get caught, they start crying “I am not proud to be a Nigerian” and expecting people to have pity for them; The Ikwerres don’t have drug rats in the streets of Malaysia, Indonesia, South Africa etc. Prostitutes in Austria, Germany, Dubai etc. They don’t deposit their fellow human beings as collateral for drug deals in Pakistan and run away while disgracing themselves and the entire black race publicly. Also, Ikwerre people don’t do money rituals even with their family members including their parents so that they get chieftaincy titles and start moving about with some quality Igbo touts.

Think about it and tell me what reasonable human beings and innovative minds means to you. Mtchwww!

IkwerrePikin:


Forget Igbo people, they don’t have sense

Let them tell you how Ikwerre migrated from Igbo land they can not. But this an Oba of Benin speaking and yet the igbos keep behaving like fools because they don’t have respect for their elders over there.

Your Jealousy for we igbos is alarming..If u bastards from Ikwerre keep answering igbo names or speaking igbo, u guys will die a painful death.. Develop ur own language if u re not igbo

Tranquill:


In Ikwerreland you see Doctors, engineers, Directors, Accountants, Scientists, Professors, Vice Chancellors, Governors, Judges, lawyers, Senior Advocates of Nigeria including two former national presidents of the Nigerian Bar Association where some Igbo states can’t even boast of one.

The reasonable human beings and innovative minds that the Ikwerre people don’t have but abounds in Igboland includes, drug peddlers to China, Vietnam, Thailand, India, Pakistan, Brasil etc. who when they get caught, they start crying “I am not proud to be a Nigerian” and expecting people to have pity for them; The Ikwerres don’t have drug rats in the streets of Malaysia, Indonesia, South Africa etc. Prostitutes in Austria, Germany, Dubai etc. They don’t deposit their fellow human beings as collateral for drug deals in Pakistan and run away while disgracing themselves and the entire black race publicly. Also, Ikwerre people don’t do money rituals even with their family members including their parents so that they get chieftaincy titles and start moving about with some quality Igbo touts.

Think about it and tell me what reasonable human beings and innovative minds means to you. Mtchwww!

Leave our names and Language for us u serpents