i mean folks offering gig like copy writing, transcription, customer service, virtual assistant, article writing, administrative support, business development.

it seems they are earning way much more than devs., please give your unbiased opinion.

It might be possible but extremely difficult. As a developer, it's easy to show a portfolio which can convince someone to give you a job on Upwork but not so easy for a writer or any other niche.

I started Upwork as a digital marketer and while I was okay, I would apply to like 80 jobs and above to get one hit. Took a pause to learn how to code and have started taking it seriously back again and now for like every 10 applications I get 2 to 3 interviews. The last job I interviewed for I lost it because I hadn't built enough websites for the client to peruse through. He wanted something with good design and I am a front end developer and not a designer. The other interview I did for a German company this week was weird. The company sent their web page and wanted me to build some portions of it as a code test. It didnt look right. So I reported them to Upwork and blocked the company on Skype.

I think web developers have an easier chance if they have an existing portfolio to show compared to other niches. With digital marketing, your portfolio is your ad spend and conversion rate. Some clients want people who have done over 20k dollars in ad spend. Not easy for a Nigerian.

tensazangetsu20:
It might be possible but extremely difficult. As a developer, it's easy to show a portfolio which can convince someone to give you a job on Upwork but not so easy for a writer or any other niche.

I started Upwork as a digital marketer and while I was okay, I would apply to like 80 jobs and above to get one hit. Took a pause to learn how to code and have started taking it seriously back again and now for like every 10 applications I get 2 to 3 interviews. The last job I interviewed for I lost it because I hadn't built enough websites for the client to peruse through. He wanted something with good design and I am a front end developer and not a designer. The other interview I did for a German company this week was weird. The company sent their web page and wanted me to build some portions of it as a code test. It didnt look right. So I reported them to Upwork and blocked the company on Skype.

I think web developers have an easier chance if they have an existing portfolio to show compared to other niches. With digital marketing, your portfolio is your ad spend and conversion rate. Some clients want people who have done over 20k dollars in ad spend. Not easy for a Nigerian.

These guys to have something called social proof and hell yeah they make incredible amount of dough but i get your point though.

tensazangetsu20:
It might be possible but extremely difficult. As a developer, it's easy to show a portfolio which can convince someone to give you a job on Upwork but not so easy for a writer or any other niche.

I started Upwork as a digital marketer and while I was okay, I would apply to like 80 jobs and above to get one hit. Took a pause to learn how to code and have started taking it seriously back again and now for like every 10 applications I get 2 to 3 interviews. The last job I interviewed for I lost it because I hadn't built enough websites for the client to peruse through. He wanted something with good design and I am a front end developer and not a designer. The other interview I did for a German company this week was weird. The company sent their web page and wanted me to build some portions of it as a code test. It didnt look right. So I reported them to Upwork and blocked the company on Skype.

I think web developers have an easier chance if they have an existing portfolio to show compared to other niches. With digital marketing, your portfolio is your ad spend and conversion rate. Some clients want people who have done over 20k dollars in ad spend. Not easy for a Nigerian.

That means you buy a lot of connects. Since my account got approved in about a month ago, I have not gotten any interview, despite sending out well packaged proposals.
I wonder if there's something I'm not doing right.

ibromodzi:


That means you buy a lot of connects. Since my account got approved in about a month ago, I have not gotten any interview, despite sending out well packaged proposals.
I wonder if there's something I'm not doing right.

Post a sample of one of your proposals here and if you are a web developer, send your portfolio. I can offer some advice. Another thing is that its a numbers game las las. You might have a good portfolio and amazing proposals but you might not be sending out enough proposals. Even the freelancers from advanced nations send out as much as 30 applications to get just one job.

tensazangetsu20:


Post a sample of one of your proposals here and if you are a web developer, send your portfolio. I can offer some advice. Another thing is that its a numbers game las las. You might have a good portfolio and amazing proposals but you might not be sending out enough proposals. Even the freelancers from advanced nations send out as much as 30 applications to get just one job.

I agree I don't send out enough proposals. I'll try to work on that. I'm a data scientist and NLP specialist with web dev experience.

ibromodzi:


I agree I don't send out enough proposals. I'll try to work on that. I'm a data scientist and NLP specialist with web dev experience.

Data science has very limited competition na and most of the people putting out jobs have some sort of technical knowledge. Lemme see how you write your proposal.

shegzhkn:
i mean folks offering gig like copy writing, transcription, customer service, virtual assistant, article writing, administrative support, business development.

it seems they are earning way much more than devs., please give your unbiased opinion.

what freelancing platform do you use?

spoilerx:

what freelancing platform do you use?

upwork.

shegzhkn:

upwork.

Thanks

Can any web developer drop a sample of any of their proposal for others to see and learn from?
I think that would be a good idea

tensazangetsu20:

Data science has very limited competition na and most of the people putting out jobs have some sort of technical knowledge. Lemme see how you write your proposal.

The last one I submitted

ibromodzi:


The last one I submitted

Bros your proposals are good. Another thing. Instead of talking about how you would go about the job use that portion to send the client some of your work then end the proposal by telling him you are willing to get on a 10 minute call free or charge to discuss his project. All in all just keep applying. The more proposals the more the chances of getting one job.

tensazangetsu20:

Bros your proposals are good. Another thing. Instead of talking about how you would go about the job use that portion to send the client some of your work then end the proposal by telling him you are willing to get on a 10 minute call free or charge to discuss his project. All in all just keep applying. The more proposals the more the chances of getting one job.

Thanks for the advice boss!

spoilerx:

Thanks

if i may ask sire, r u a developer ??

shegzhkn:

if i may ask sire, r u a developer ??

android, yes

spoilerx:

android, yes

kk bruv.

shegzhkn:
kk bruv.

You?

spoilerx:


You?

Pythonista sire.

Have you tried codementor.io - it also a freelancer site.

ibromodzi:


The last one I submitted

Which resources did you use to learn flask,
I'm currently learning but there are limited courses online like Django.

Thanks in advance.

I use Miguel Grinberg "Web Development with Flask O'Reilly ".

saheedniyi22:


Which resources did you use to learn flask,
I'm currently learning but there are limited courses online like Django.

Thanks in advance.

I use Miguel Grinberg "Web Development with Flask O'Reilly ".

I use both PDF and YouTube videos.
Check out Corey Schafer on YouTube, his series is highly structured and easy to follow. I also use Miguel's website and his PDF. You can also check out
"Learning Flask Framework" by Matt Copperwaite & Charles Leifer.

ibromodzi:


I use both PDF and YouTube videos.
Check out Corey Schafer on YouTube, his series is highly structured and easy to follow. I also use Miguel's website and his PDF. You can also check out
"Learning Flask Framework" by Matt Copperwaite & Charles Leifer.

Thanks

shegzhkn:

Pythonista sire.
Have you tried codementor.io - it also a freelancer site.

Thanks, would check it out.
Python was my first love, now kotlin