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Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Gemid94(m): 5:00pm On Aug 09, 2020
Founder of Living Faith Church Worldwide, Bishop David Oyedepo has said it is unbiblical for church leaders to claim ownership of their churches saying “it’s God’s church” not theirs.

Oyedepo made the declaration in a message on Sunday, August 9 during the online service of the ministry.

He said, “There is nothing like my wife and I ministry. There is no such thing in the Bible. It’s God’s church, not our church. It is wrong to claim ownership of God’s church.”

Making further clarification, he said “not one single thing that belongs to God should be named after me. Covenant University should never be named after me after I am long gone. The ancient of days owns it, not me. So let nobody be zealous to go and put my name on it.”

http://community.vanguardngr.com/forum/topics/don-t-claim-ownership-of-god-s-church-oyedepo

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by spinna: 5:09pm On Aug 09, 2020
They will not talk for this one
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kingsasian(m): 5:11pm On Aug 09, 2020
I love this.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by pafra(m): 5:13pm On Aug 09, 2020
This servant of God have an exceptional ministry.

Love him or hate him, he has a sincere passion for God and God's people.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by olabodejinad: 5:26pm On Aug 09, 2020
but you can buy jets with God's money
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by backnbeta(f): 5:30pm On Aug 09, 2020
olabodejinad:
but you can buy jets with God's money
He bought jet with God's money to do God's work, the jet is not for him, it's for God's work. There's no reason why he shouldn't enjoy God's favor as a man of God sir.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by TheKingOfCrumb: 5:36pm On Aug 09, 2020
olabodejinad:
but you can buy jets with God's money
that's why you are God's child. grin
Son of God
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Righteousness89(m): 6:10pm On Aug 09, 2020
Hallelujah! Very Well Said!

We all are Nothing without the Almighty God!

So He owns and Us...
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by hisgrace090: 6:13pm On Aug 09, 2020
Nothing but the truth!
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kobojunkie: 6:35pm On Aug 09, 2020
backnbeta:

He bought jet with God's money to do God's work, the jet is not for him, it's for God's work. There's no reason why he shouldn't enjoy God's favor as a man of God sir.
Stop lying on behalf of these MOGs in the name of God!

Where you there when God supposedly told Him to buy a jet? Then why do you vouch for him IN THE NAME OF GOD?

God is not a God of Favor though? He does not show favor to one man or another... God's mercy and compassion falls on all men, wicked and righteous alike. So Why do you jump forward to lie IN THE NAME OF GOD for these MOGs?

Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kobojunkie: 6:36pm On Aug 09, 2020
pafra:
This servant of God have an exceptional ministry.

Love him or hate him, he has a sincere passion for God and God's people.
How is he a servant of God? Because he says things laced with the name of God?

Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by VirginFinder: 6:47pm On Aug 09, 2020
Dotherightthing:
Hallelujah! Very Wwell Ssaid!

We all are Nnothing without the Almighty God!

So He owns and Uus...
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by pafra(m): 7:13pm On Aug 09, 2020
Kobojunkie:
How is he a servant of God? Because he says things laced with the name of God?

A canal man can not understand the things of the spirit.

Even if I explain you will not understand. We both operates in different ream.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by pesty100(m): 7:16pm On Aug 09, 2020
pafra:

A canal man can not understand the things of the spirit.
Even if I explain you will not understand. We both operates in different ream.
thank you for making things clear to us all by further obscuring things
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kobojunkie: 7:17pm On Aug 09, 2020
pafra:

A canal man can not understand the things of the spirit.

Even if I explain you will not understand. We both operates in different ream.
The funny thing of all this is those you think are the blind ones understand the word of God more than those of you who think yourselves insiders as far as the things of God are concerned.

Jesus Christ said how He came for those who are blind for they see, and not for those who think they see, for then they are truly blind.

Again, how is this man a servant of God?/

Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by ThothHermes: 9:53pm On Aug 09, 2020
Kobojunkie:
The funny thing of all this is those you think are the blind ones understand the word of God more than those of you who think yourselves insiders as far as the things of God are concerned.

Jesus Christ said how He came for those who are blind for they see, and not for those who think they see, for then they are truly blind.

Again, how is this man a servant of God?/
Exactly how many hours of your life do you spend on MOGs? Get a life dude.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kobojunkie: 9:55pm On Aug 09, 2020
ThothHermes:
Exactly how many hours of your life do you spend on MOGs? Get a life dude.
you first!

Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by pafra(m): 10:03pm On Aug 09, 2020
Kobojunkie:
The funny thing of all this is those you think are the blind ones understand the word of God more than those of you who think yourselves insiders as far as the things of God are concerned.

Jesus Christ said how He came for those who are blind for they see, and not for those who think they see, for then they are truly blind.

Again, how is this man a servant of God?/

Jesus christ came for the blind to see.
Thank God for admitting your blindness.
Are you ready to see
If your answer is yes then, we can start from there.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kobojunkie: 10:13pm On Aug 09, 2020
pafra:

Jesus christ came for the blind to see.
Thank God for admitting your blindness.
Are you ready to see
If your answer is yes then, we can start from there.
if seeing is what you have, I definitely want none of it!
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by MuttleyLaff: 10:42pm On Aug 09, 2020
Gemid94:
Founder of Living Faith Church Worldwide, Bishop David Oyedepo has said it is unbiblical for church leaders to claim ownership of their churches saying “it’s God’s church” not theirs.

Oyedepo made the declaration in a message on Sunday, August 9 during the online service of the ministry.

He said, “There is nothing like my wife and I ministry. There is no such thing in the Bible. It’s God’s church, not our church. It is wrong to claim ownership of God’s church.”

Making further clarification, he said “not one single thing that belongs to God should be named after me. Covenant University should never be named after me after I am long gone. The ancient of days owns it, not me. So let nobody be zealous to go and put my name on it.”

http://community.vanguardngr.com/forum/topics/don-t-claim-ownership-of-god-s-church-oyedepo

olabodejinad:
but you can buy jets with God's money
Take note of 1 Timothy 5:18 and 1 Corinthians 9:14 below

backnbeta:
He bought jet with God's money to do God's work, the jet is not for him, it's for God's work. There's no reason why he shouldn't enjoy God's favor as a man of God sir.
"For the Scripture says,
“You must not muzzle an ox to keep it from eating as it treads out the grain.”
And in another place, “Those who work deserve their pay!”
"
- 1 Timothy 5:18

"In the same way, the Lord has prescribed that those who preach the gospel
should receive their living from the gospel
"
- 1 Corinthians 9:14
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kobojunkie: 3:49am On Aug 10, 2020
ThothHermes:
Exactly how many hours of your life do you spend on MOGs? Get a life dude.
It is all the same to me. grin
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by delkuf(m): 5:56am On Aug 10, 2020
Kobojunkie:
It is all the same to me. grin
Kobo you have chose not answer my question because you know I know your secrets. Will there be prophet like Elijah and Elisha in heaven. Please answer this question

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by backnbeta(f): 12:10pm On Aug 10, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Stop lying on behalf of these MOGs in the name of God!

Where you there when God supposedly told Him to buy a jet? Then why do you vouch for him IN THE NAME OF GOD?

God is not a God of Favor though? He does not show favor to one man or another... God's mercy and compassion falls on all men, wicked and righteous alike. So Why do you jump forward to lie IN THE NAME OF GOD for these MOGs?
Unfortunately, the same way I cannot vouch that God spoke to him is the same way you cannot say otherwise! It's his words against yours! You can't say for certain he didn't hear from God, can you sir? NO. When I have a good feeling about a MOG, I follow my heart and respect the spirit of God in him. Feel free to hate pastors, it's your choice sir and I will respect that choice.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kobojunkie: 10:54pm On Aug 10, 2020
backnbeta:
Unfortunately, the same way I cannot vouch that God spoke to him is the same way you cannot say otherwise!
Wrong! I can vouch that God did not tell Him to because I know what God says to us all to do, and your MOG is not exempt from obedience to God's commandments.
backnbeta:
It's his words against yours!
Nope, it is Jesus Christ's word against His.
backnbeta:
You can't say for certain he didn't hear from God, can you sir? NO.
I can because again Jesus Christ told us what is the case with those who disobey Him.
backnbeta:
When I have a good feeling about a MOG, I follow my heart and respect the spirit of God in him. Feel free to hate pastors, it's your choice sir and I will respect that choice.
Jesus Christ never told you to let your feelings judge these things. If God said the following about the heart of men... How then do you expect the same heart to know that which is wicked from that which is good, by itself?

Jeremiah 17 vs 9(KJV)
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9. The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
backnbeta:
Feel free to hate pastors, it's your choice sir and I will respect that choice.
You are wrong again! I don't hate pastors ... I hate the lies they tell in the name of God. That is what I hate, because by those lies, they continue to deceive hundreds of millions, leading them further away from God than when they started.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by delkuf(m): 11:03pm On Aug 10, 2020
Kobojunkie:

Wrong! I can vouch that God did not tell Him to because I know what God says to us all to do, and your MOG is not exempt from obedience to God's commandments.
Nope, it is Jesus Christ's word against His.
I can because again Jesus Christ told us what is the case with those who disobey Him.
Jesus Christ never told you to let your feelings judge these things. If God said the following about the heart of men... How then do you expect the same heart to know that which is wicked from that which is good, by itself?

You are wrong again! I don't hate pastors ... I hate the lies they tell in the name of God. That is what I hate, because by those lies, they continue to deceive hundreds of millions, leading them further away from God than when they started.
You know what God say to us all. Can you hear yourself. Because you want to criticize some people, you are just saying rubbish
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kobojunkie: 11:57pm On Aug 10, 2020
Peter, the apostle, warned people about ALL MOGs (False Prophets and Teachers), from about 2000 years ago.

2 Peter 2 vs 1-7 (ERV)
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1. In the past there were false prophets among God’s people. It is the same now. You will have some false teachers in your group. They will teach things that are wrong—ideas that will cause people to be lost. And they will teach in a way that will be hard for you to see that they are wrong. They will even refuse to follow the Master who bought their freedom. And so they will quickly destroy themselves.
2. Many people will follow them in the morally wrong things they do. And because of them, others will say bad things about the way of truth we follow.
3. These false teachers only want your money. So they will use you by telling you things that are not true. But the judgment against these false teachers has been ready for a long time. And they will not escape God who will destroy them.

4. When angels sinned, God did not let them go free without punishment. He sent them to hell. He put those angels in caves of darkness, where they are being held until the time when God will judge them.

5. And God punished the evil people who lived long ago. He brought a flood to the world that was full of people who were against God. But he saved Noah and seven other people with him. Noah was a man who told people about living right.

6. God also punished the evil cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. He burned them until there was nothing left but ashes. He used those cities as an example of what will happen to people who are against God.
7. But he saved Lot, a good man who lived there. Lot was greatly troubled by the morally bad lives of those evil people. 8 This good man lived with those evil people every day, and his good heart was hurt by the evil things he saw and heard.
What peter said is indeed what we see happening here and now. Because of the AntiChrists also called MOGs, the world does not view Jesus Christ in a good light at all. You simply mention that you believe in the God of the Bible, and almost immediately you see the detest in their looks... nothing to do with persecution at all. No, they have become wary of those who claim to be Christians. The world is tired of the lies and deceit of MOGs - the hypocrisy that is claimed and justified in the name of God.

These MOGs are the Antichrists as they have set themselves up as Masters over Jesus Christ's flock, pretending to be Teachers in His place.

Their doctrines and traditions are twisted representations of the teachings of Jesus Christ, and in many cases many are deceived and led away from the Truth of Jesus Christ as a result.

They sit themselves in the place of God in the minds of His own sheep and they steal, kill and destroy, for their own pleasure and kingdoms, that which God has planned for those who are His. And they do all of this in the name of God.
MOGs are the false prophets that Jesus Christ warned His followers to beware of. These are the antichrists that the apostles spoke of even during their days.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by olabodejinad: 8:41am On Aug 13, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


Take note of 1 Timothy 5:18 and 1 Corinthians 9:14 below

"For the Scripture says,
“You must not muzzle an ox to keep it from eating as it treads out the grain.”
And in another place, “Those who work deserve their pay!”
"
- 1 Timothy 5:18

"In the same way, the Lord has prescribed that those who preach the gospel
should receive their living from the gospel
"
- 1 Corinthians 9:14
you talk like one who is brainwashed. you already said he should live by the proceeds, where does it mention for him to lavish the money he claims is meant for God, in what universe is a private jet necessary or even worse still. two jets. not even one. I pray you be delivered from the bandage you are under cos if you cant see the errors of your leaders. you forgetting that they are humans and capable of sin as much as most of us are, then you really need help. I am a Muslim and I can categorically say that there are clerics. lots of them who I can never believe a word they say cos they are frauds, same way it is in other religions.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by Kobojunkie: 8:50am On Aug 13, 2020
Gemid94:
Founder of Living Faith Church Worldwide, Bishop David Oyedepo has said it is unbiblical for church leaders to claim ownership of their churches saying “it’s God’s church” not theirs.

Oyedepo made the declaration in a message on Sunday, August 9 during the online service of the ministry.

He said, “There is nothing like my wife and I ministry. There is no such thing in the Bible. It’s God’s church, not our church. It is wrong to claim ownership of God’s church.”

Making further clarification, he said “not one single thing that belongs to God should be named after me. Covenant University should never be named after me after I am long gone. The ancient of days owns it, not me. So let nobody be zealous to go and put my name on it.”

http://community.vanguardngr.com/forum/topics/don-t-claim-ownership-of-god-s-church-oyedepo
Peter, the apostle, warned people about ALL MOGs (False Prophets and Teachers), from about 2000 years ago.

2 Peter 2 vs 1-7 (ERV)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. In the past there were false prophets among God’s people. It is the same now. You will have some false teachers in your group. They will teach things that are wrong—ideas that will cause people to be lost. And they will teach in a way that will be hard for you to see that they are wrong. They will even refuse to follow the Master who bought their freedom. And so they will quickly destroy themselves.
2. Many people will follow them in the morally wrong things they do. And because of them, others will say bad things about the way of truth we follow.
3. These false teachers only want your money. So they will use you by telling you things that are not true. But the judgment against these false teachers has been ready for a long time. And they will not escape God who will destroy them.

4. When angels sinned, God did not let them go free without punishment. He sent them to hell. He put those angels in caves of darkness, where they are being held until the time when God will judge them.

5. And God punished the evil people who lived long ago. He brought a flood to the world that was full of people who were against God. But he saved Noah and seven other people with him. Noah was a man who told people about living right.

6. God also punished the evil cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. He burned them until there was nothing left but ashes. He used those cities as an example of what will happen to people who are against God.
7. But he saved Lot, a good man who lived there. Lot was greatly troubled by the morally bad lives of those evil people. 8 This good man lived with those evil people every day, and his good heart was hurt by the evil things he saw and heard.
What peter said is indeed what we see happening here and now. Because of the AntiChrists also called MOGs, the world does not view Jesus Christ in a good light at all. You simply mention that you believe in the God of the Bible, and almost immediately you see the detest in their looks... nothing to do with persecution at all. No, they have become wary of those who claim to be Christians. The world is tired of the lies and deceit of MOGs - the hypocrisy that is claimed and justified in the name of God.

These MOGs are the Antichrists as they have set themselves up as Masters over Jesus Christ's flock, pretending to be Teachers in His place.

Their doctrines and traditions are twisted representations of the teachings of Jesus Christ, and in many cases many are deceived and led away from the Truth of Jesus Christ as a result.

They sit themselves in the place of God in the minds of His own sheep and they steal, kill and destroy, for their own pleasure and kingdoms, that which God has planned for those who are His. And they do all of this in the name of God.
MOGs are the false prophets that Jesus Christ warned His followers to beware of. These are the antichrists that the apostles spoke of even during their days.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by MuttleyLaff: 9:25am On Aug 13, 2020
olabodejinad:
you talk like one who is brainwashed. you already said he should live by the proceeds, where does it mention for him to lavish the money he claims is meant for God, in what universe is a private jet necessary or even worse still. two jets. not even one. I pray you be delivered from the bandage you are under cos if you cant see the errors of your leaders. you forgetting that they are humans and capable of sin as much as most of us are, then you really need help. I am a Muslim and I can categorically say that there are clerics. lots of them who I can never believe a word they say cos they are frauds, same way it is in other religions.
You need to put your brain in gear when next you pull your fingers out in motion to type so to prevent you from saying anyone is brainwashed. Where did you read in OP or from me that anyone is permitted to indulge in lavish lifestyles at the cost of other people's sweat, blood and hard work.

I don't give a foxtrot uniform charlie kilo what your belief system is or what your faith is, so keep the unsolicited info up where the sun don't shine
angry angry angry

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