ubunja:
maybe if you say it they'll listen.

Also, I'm not getting why the other guy is so eager to be the Beta Bucks.

ubunja:
maybe if you say it they'll listen.

Also, I'm not getting why the other guy is so eager to be the Beta Bucks.

Dammytrager:


Thanks for the compliment once again.

But as a red-pilled aware man, if my life is not going in the direction I want and I am broke, should my focus still be on women and how to bed them or find a way to put my life in the right direction first.

Martinez39s:
When did Ubunja say you should wallow in poverty and keep chasing women at your own expense?

Martinez39s:
Like, I don't know why people keep confusing how a female goes about her lust with how she goes about her survival and committed relationships. The rules are different.

When it comes to lust, a female will choose the guy that turns her on and gets her in the mood regardless of his social class. That's why a rich woman will fùck a hot gym rat that turns her on even though he is barely struggling to pay his rent and isn't fit to tie the shoe lace of her beta husband financially. Lust is a short term thing and what matters at that moment is the satisfaction of that lust, not your ability to pay the bills and give her expensive gifts. Such a guy can be above or below her in social status, rich or poor.

When it comes to committed relationships, particularly courtship and marriage, a woman will choose the best financial option available to her. It doesn't matter if he is a beta, alpha, redpillers or simp. All that matters is financial stability, her comfort and survival, which all boils down to your resources. You ability to satisfy her lust doesn't count as it cannot buy bread. If you are a redpiller with a great sexual appeal and a masculine frame made of adamatium or vibranium, the woman you are discussing marriage with will overlook you and pick the man that has more resources than you even if he the most pathetic simp and he is so unattractive and disgusting. She will pick him even if she has to share him with other women. Women don't marry based on lust and your ability to satisfy them in bed, they consider your resources and what you can provide, and they will keep swinging, at any time, to the better financial option available to them. This is hypergamy. Hypergamy is innate, it only cares about now and it doesn't sleep.

Martinez39s:
When did Ubunja say you should wallow in poverty and keep chasing women at your own expense?

Dammytrager:

Ubunja was all over the thread that the redpill is all about sex and women

so If I am red pilled and broke as Bleep, should I chase something else (Success/Money) or focus on my red pill mandate which is women and sex

JESHAL:



Welcome back Martinez
Hope you are ok

Dammytrager:
Thanks for dropping a point without first insulting me

I would love to make a point from what you have said.

Let me paint two scenarios. First with a woman and then with a man,

For a beautiful red-pilled woman getting a lot of attention from men, she is aware of why most of the men are chasing her, for sex, now she uses this knowledge to her advantage to get what she wants, if she wants his resources, she can bait them by giving them the illusion/hope of having sex with her while she drains them of their resource (This is common these days - friendzone), she also baits them for attention and ego boost, if she wants relationship, she can easily get it from one of the men, this is easy for her because she has options.

For a successful red-pilled man get a lot of attention from girls, he equally understands why they are after him, for relationship and commitment, now he can use this to get whatever he wants from them, sex, baby mamaism, marriage, he also gives them the illusion of the commitment and get what he wants.

Now as a man you can get what you want from women and you're also successful, it's a win-win.

Caveat: I am not invalidating other factors like looks, looks matters a lot too, I am an advocate of hitting gym, taking care of yourself and all, these will be easy if you have money. girls will get wet for you if you look good too. But you don't want to be in your 40s and all you have to show as a man is your looks or digging stick.
I am also not invalidating the redpill by saying become successful and simp for women. I am just saying as a man success should be your priority with or without the redpill, not how to solve women sexual dissatisfaction problem.

Dammytrager:


My question is should I care about who a female lusts for or what I want?

I think what is important here is what I want, If I am getting what I want and I have my way, then that's what matters. Whether she gets what she wants or not is not my stress to worry about, the moment she flakes and can't fulfil my desire, I move on to the next one since I have plenty of them as a successful man.

Martinez39s:
Physics is all about the study of matter and energy. If I am a good physicist and I am broke, does it mean I should still be studying matter and energy instead of looking for success/money?

That's an analogy that will settle you if you can see it. Saying Physics is all about matter and energy doesn't mean a good physicist shouldn't make money or that he should pursue the study of matter and energy at his own expense. SMH.

Martinez39s:
It is true that women are attracted to successful men, and no one is disputing that. However, when you talk about who a woman will chose, it should be made clear if you are talking about fùcks or serious relationship (eg. settle down). Lack of distinction between both categories is the major causes of confusion in discussions like this. When it comes to lust, a woman will choose to fùck the guy that turns her on; such a guy can fall in any social class. On the other hand, when you talk about committed relationships, a woman will choose her best financial option that's available regardless of whether he is sexually attractive or not. Hypergamy applies to the situation of committed relationships.

Dammytrager:


My question is should I care about who a female lusts for or what I want?
I think what is important here is what I want, If I am getting what I want and I have my way, then that's what matters. Whether she gets what she wants or not is not my stress to worry about, the moment she flakes and can't fulfil my desire, I move on to the next one since I have plenty of them as a successful man.

DEMZEE:


GAME IS SIMPLY SOCIAL SKILLS.... UNDERSTANDING MEN'S NATURE, WOMEN'S NATURE AND THE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN

MEN WORK IN SOCIAL HIERARCHIES
WOMEN DON'T

THE GOAL IS TO BECOME THE BEST VERSION OF ONE'S SELF. WOMEN ARE THE BYPRODUCTS OF SUCCESS NOT THE SUCCESS ITSELF

MEN'S VALUE ISN'T TIED TO DICK, BEDMANTICS AND THE AMOUNT OF WOMEN THEY HAVE bleeped

DICK WON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF INFLATION OR USELESS GOVERNMENT ECONOMIC POLICIES

HYPERGAMY IS ALPHA bleeps//BETA BUCKS

ubunja:

He made sense to you because you're bluepill. The argument he put forward is the same tired argument every boy grows up hearing: GET MONEY, YOU'LL GET ANY WOMAN YOU WANT. the same argument you're pushing here. If that worked, the redpill wouldn't exist.

Martinez39s:
Who is asking you to care?

You seem somehow. The red pill is the red pill, not about what anyone wants. The red pill does its job to reveal a certain aspect of reality. You are free to do what you want.

Dammytrager:


Thanks for the compliment once again.

But as a red-pilled aware man, if my life is not going in the direction I want and I am broke, should my focus still be on women and how to bed them or find a way to put my life in the right direction first.

ubunja:
In SA young women are outstripping young men in almost every area from education to career to wealth but the ladies still pine, cry and kill themselves over men. And a lot of the times LESSER men whose money they don't need.

If a woman can Buck Herself she'll only need an Alpha Fuccs.

djon78:


Did you see how Martinez clarified things intelligently
You never answered my question

djon78:



South Africa is not Nigeria or even West Africa.
We have different socio cultural attributes, just like our cuisine or food and our looks are different

So you can not use cultural behavioral pattern of South Africa to judge Nigeria or west Africa own

I have mixed up with South Africans even East Africans and our way of life in Nigeria or even Ghana is way different from there way of life, even in dealing with women, it's way way different.

I have dated a Tanzanian babe way back which is East Africa and there way of life is way different from ours. A close dude of mine, a Nigerian even later married his Tanzanian babe.

So perspectives matter here

ubunja:
In SA young women are outstripping young men in almost every area from education to career to wealth but the ladies still pine, cry and kill themselves over men. And a lot of the times LESSER men whose money they don't need.

If a woman can Buck Herself she'll only need an Alpha Fuccs.

emmaodet:
Why is LOVE getting all the credit for the things MONEY did?

https://www.nairaland.com/7000103/why-does-love-get-all#110471590

Am interesting thread.

ubunja:
then no more references to America, the UK, Japan etc. Let's keep everything Nigerian.

LagosInter:

Those are the type that still want richer ones.
We have seen this happen several times.
Hypergamy is real.

Oyin2212:

Very funny thread. But the guy is right tho

emmaodet:


He is 100% right bro.
I think the problem the world is having right now is that humans are becoming too wise. We are becoming wiser day by day thereby knowing things we shouldn’t know.
A person like that thread op is not meant to think to that stage, the programming is for him to be in a state of illusion, a state of lovey/dovey,a simp, a blue-pilled man but he is waking up from his slumber and the people are waking, the more exposed they become. The more exposed they become, the more questions would be asked and that is very dangerous for the world.
Let’s make the sleeping dog lie.

djon78:


Yeah every country has its own code and culture.
The way the Asians do things is way different from the way Americans do things

Let me add my business knowledge here, even multinational corporations understand these things. From feeding, to relationships to the way they run there entire life.

Companies that have overlooked this have failed woefully and lost billions of dollars

Likewise in relationships

From my personal experience, the best women to get entangled in Africa is East African women: especially Tanzanians, then Rwandans

When it comes to body structure and shape, they are amazing, drop dead gurgeyous. And they can be very loyal, and not after money like that.

South African women to me have the best shapes, extremely packaged but they can be very crazy, we call them werey in Nigeria. They can drink and booze. Most times guys go to them for flings and mind blowing sex but for any meaningful things, na run.

Naija women are the most entitled, body shape they no reach East Africans or South African women, but they are our own and for long term commitment we mostly end up with them. We don't have options

Coming back to culture, the relationship culture of African Americans are way way different from that of black Africans. It's extremely on the two parallel lines, no intersection whatsoever.

Oyin2212:


@bolded is not possible because the op went through the experience before getting that realisation. Even the redpill wasn't so popular before, it was our heartbreaking experience that led most of us to it.

It does look like most people are waking up bro but I can assure you that's not the case.