Dabronze:
@Skepticùs, Martiñez39s and Tonnñyray try to finish your argument on this thread we are gettin tired of space being wasted on unessesary argument, anybody that does not accept your opinion just let go and move on to what is important we've gettin to almost 800th Thread we should'nt be agrue on what is red-pill or not dont expect everybody to agree with you, blue-pill is just like someone who is eatin sweetend milk and cake regularly and somebody just give you the juice squeeze out of bitter leaf to drink with bitter-kola and you expect the person to tell you I like it "never" it is when they continue eating it and started havin problem with their system they now ask for solution then u give them The bitter leaf Juice and bitter-kola and their system now gettin normal then they will know the value of it You ought to put yourself in their shoe you will understand better.

I and Skepticus were not forcing anyone to accept our viewpoint. Skepticus simply argued that the mere act of collecting your stuff back is okay, whether or not your emotions were involved and whether or not it is something you can afford to let go or not. Skepticus said it is okay and one shouldn't feel bad about it or see it as weakness (as someone here does). In addition, he also explained how men's ego and sense of dignity are exploited by women in this regard. Simple as that; nothing more, nothing less. His argument was important because many men are in that trap and need to recondition themselves.

Unfortunately, someone got emotional and started talking off point. Not just that, he disingenuously utilised and misconstrued Regèx's post to act like he is right, play the victim and act like the people he clashed with have no real problems/experience. He wanted to drag Skepticus into a silly argument, and I stepped in to advise Skepticus against it and show that his point was well understood and there was no need to argue with anyone. We have nothing to prove.

• Did Skepticus ever say you should get emotionally involved in your dealings with women? NO! He wouldn't support that. That wasn't even an issue of his argument.
• Did Skepticus ever say or support one giving more than they can avoid to lose? NO! He wouldn't support that. That wasn't even an issue of discussion in his write up. I have explained his aim in the first paragraph.

Cheers!

MJBOLT:

Girls wont hesitate to collect the things they got for you if the relationship goes south,I don see am happen wella.If you buy phones,wigs,cars or whatever and that sh1t is in your name,my guy collect your thing back,no let anybody shame you or tell you sh1t.

I remember a few years back,Rick Ross collected his engagement ring from his supposed babe at that time a whole Rick Ross o.

Whether or not it is something one can afford to let go, whether or not one was emotionally involved, if a man wants to collect the stuffs he bought for a girl, there is nothing wrong in that.

If you see it as weakness and pettiness, na your own. In this place, we don't care. We don't give a fùck. If the opportunity is there and you can do it successfully, do it; nothing spoil. Funny enough, this issue of collecting your stuff back has been discussed here before, last year.

Martinez39s:
Personally, I have nothing against those who masturbate, but I would advise young men to stay away from the following (expect if they are able to control and moderate their habit):

(1) Watching porn and mastubating,
(2) Drinking alcohol,
(3) Smoking weed,
(4) Doing hard drugs and substances that get them high and distort their perception of reality,
(5) Smoking cigarettes,
(6) Having an unhealthy eating habit and not doing physical exercises.

I don't do any of these, but if one chooses to indulge in any of these, it should be between healthy limits. Personally, I believe a man is better off without these. Never indulge in any addiction or compulsive habit that can derail you.

yeah, infact young people shouldn't take anything sex seriously in life

Origamist:
Some fellows here are damn petty.
What has ashewo thread got to do with relinquishing whatever you give an individual,whether guy or girl totally?
Like, who gifts out an item and demands
back for it after a misunderstanding?
Last time I experienced such was in primary 2 or there about.
Na was o.
I wonder the type of men we have nowadays

In the true spirit of the thread and away from distractions can any meaningful person with experience enlighten the house on risk taking?
I strongly believe the ability to take risks is part and parcel of what makes a real man but this is a department I find myself rather deficient in. I am naturally risk averse. So away from just google searches are there folks here who have real life tips on developing capacity for risk taking?
Kindly take the floor please.

cc
CaveAdullam
BLOODYSPERM

Men should never think they need to do well in life sorely to attract women because we think women don’t like unsuccessful men. Do well in life for the sole purpose of making yourself happy. Everything should be about you. Buy a new house because you love the house, buy a Ferrari because you love fast cars, eat at that fancy restaurant because you love good food, go on vacations because you want to spoil yourself. If you live aspects of your life to win a woman’s approval then you’re on the wrong path. Women are added benefits to a successful man, a successful man almost never actively seek out women. If a woman perceives you as selfish and self centered, you’re on the right path.

Saviolamemphix:
Even quavo collect him Bentley from saweti who com b me

If i gift u anything and and i notice say u no worth am ah go collect am

According to pansophist never b a gentle man to a shameless woman.

Washèré

ProphetJeroboam:
Men should never think they need to do well in life sorely to attract women because we think women don’t like unsuccessful men. Do well in life for the sole purpose of making yourself happy. Everything should be about you. Buy a new house because you love the house, buy a Ferrari because you love fast cars, eat at that fancy restaurant because you love good food, go on vacations because you want to spoil yourself. If you live aspects of your life to win a woman’s approval then you’re on the wrong path. Women are added benefits to a successful man, a successful man almost never actively seek out women. If a woman perceives you as selfish and self centered, you’re on the right path.

exactly.

Martinez39s:
Whether or not it is something one can afford to let go, whether or not one was emotionally involved, if a man wants to collect the stuffs he bought for a girl, there is nothing wrong in that.

If you see it as weakness and pettiness, na your own. In this place, we don't care. We don't give a fùck. If the opportunity is there and you can do it successfully, do it; nothing spoil. Funny enough, this issue of collecting your stuff back has been discussed here before, last year.

Hehehe...


There is something that you should know...


Women don't really value the stuff they got for free..


That's why most girls will give you sex when you promise to buy an item for them..


They see the sex as a prepaid payment for your gift..


An engineer friend of mine at the company I work and I got talking some weeks back...


He said he broke up with one of his girlfriends when he asked for his television and DVD player and the girls said whether she has not already used sex to pay him...


This was 1990 something oh...


I always say never put yourself in a position for a woman to tie herself to you and never tie yourself to a woman...


Mind you alot of women are entitled and senseless...


I was talking to one foolish girl yesterday...


She said if a man bought a gift for her and ask for it back in return she would not give him..


I asked her why...


She said because she didn't beg him for the gift in the first instance...


Can you imagine?


I also heard a case of a man who was abroad and had a girlfriend in Nigeria...



He was sending money for the girl to buy properties..



The girl was buying it in her name...



In the end the guy didn't get married to her..



He came back from overseas and demanded for his deeds to his properties...



She refused to release them...



She was hunted like a dog by men of the NPF...



She eventually gave it up...




If you allow a woman tie herself to you or tie yourself to a woman like the mugu in my story above...



You will always be at her mercy..

Tonnyray:
In the true spirit of the thread and away from distractions can any meaningful person with experience enlighten the house on risk taking?
I strongly believe the ability to take risks is part and parcel of what makes a real man but this is a department I find myself rather deficient in. I am naturally risk averse. So away from just google searches are there folks here who have real life tips on developing capacity for risk taking?
Kindly take the floor please.

cc
CaveAdullam
BLOODYSPERM

1. Taking risks is all about the weight of your sacrifice versus the weight of the anticipated benefits. Like in medicine, potential benefits is neglected when it falls below the risk to be taken during medical diagnosis.

2. Firstly, risk aversion is because of fear, that is, fear of losing out in cases of investments or fear of inculcating punishments and backlashing when it involves superiors and subordinates respectively.

3. Where risk will yield potential benefits higher than the weight of punishment, such risk must be taken.

4. In the workplace, you must be competent before taking any risk, especially when it involves your boss. To not get punish regardless of the outcome of the risk---positive /negative, involve them or subtly seek their permission. They are greedy, when you agree to ration it 50:50 or 50:45, they will pretend they didn't see you between the cogs in the wheel if it involves money and the organisation.

5. For stubborn bosses, appeal to their superiors or someone they hold dearly with maximum respect. If you retract to your shell always, they'll continually oppress you.

6. Men are defined by their words and principles, not stupid ones though, because everyone always got an opinion which is subjectively the "truth" for them. To put into practice your words and principles structures you for a better man.

7. Becoming a leader of a group will warrant you to take healthy risks, and if that's your aim, taking risk will become normal and you will gain competence in the group you lead. People love others that can do what they can't do as a result of fear. (I'm aware of jealousy though).

8. Risks that involves other people especially your boss or superiors must be undertaken out of competence that you've gained before and logical conclusion. Even if you want to invest, these are the kind of people you will trust without hesitating.

9. Apart from fear, ego is another factor that will limit you. Potential benefits and outcomes must be considered first, because ego might blind your eyes from taking "worthy risks" or make you continue to sink in a quicksand when the envisaged result is a mirage or minuscule---sunk cost fallacy. Know when to act and when to stop. Ego or "I'm too big for this or this thing is too small for me" must not appear at the forefront.

10. Challenge your self every day and in most cases you'll find out that most risks are worth taking, though they involve life and death; time and chance. But with the right tools, right knowledge, right logical conclusion and at the right time, you will succeed.

Thanks.

Jessepaid:
Hehehe...

There is something that you should know...

Women don't really value the stuff they got for free..

That's why most girls will give you sex when you promise to buy an item for them..

They see the sex as a prepaid payment for your gift..

An engineer friend of mine at the company I work and I got talking some weeks back...

He said he broke up with one of his girlfriends when he asked for his television and DVD player and the girls said whether she has not already used sex to pay him...

This was 1990 something oh...

I always say never put yourself in a position for a woman to tie herself to you and never tie yourself to a woman...

Mind you alot of women are entitled and senseless...

I was talking to one foolish girl yesterday...

She said if a man bought a gift for her and ask for it back in return she would not give him..

I asked her why...

She said because she didn't beg him for the gift in the first instance...

Can you imagine?

I also heard a case of a man who was abroad and had a girlfriend in Nigeria...

He was sending money for the girl to buy properties..

The girl was buying it in her name...

In the end the guy didn't get married to her..

He came back from overseas and demanded for his deeds to his properties...

She refused to release them...

She was hunted like a dog by men of the NPF...

She eventually gave it up...

If you allow a woman tie herself to you or tie yourself to a woman like the mugu in my story above...

You will always be at her mercy..

Women always trying to play smart. Sometimes, to deal with a woman and put her in her place, you have to match her craze for craze.

This cannot be free of charge. Therefore, it is:

DAY 235, REDPILL 2021

CaveAdullam:


1. Taking risks is all about the weight of your sacrifice versus the weight of the anticipated benefits. Like in medicine, potential benefits is neglected when it falls below the risk to be taken during medical diagnosis.

2. Firstly, risk aversion is because of fear, that is, fear of losing out in cases of investments or fear of inculcating punishments and backlashing when it involves superiors and subordinates respectively.

3. Where risk will yield potential benefits higher than the weight of punishment, such risk must be taken.

4. In the workplace, you must be competent before taking any risk, especially when it involves your boss. To not get punish regardless of the outcome of the risk---positive /negative, involve them or subtly seek their permission. They are greedy, when you agree to ration it 50:50 or 50:45, they will pretend they didn't see you between the cogs in the wheel if it involves money and the organisation.

5. For stubborn bosses, appeal to their superiors or someone they hold dearly with maximum respect. If you retract to your shell always, they'll continually oppress you.

6. Men are defined by their words and principles, not stupid ones though, because everyone always got an opinion which is subjectively the "truth" for them. To put into practice your words and principles structures you for a better man.

7. Becoming a leader of a group will warrant you to take healthy risks, and if that's your aim, taking risk will become normal and you will gain competence in the group you lead. People love others that can do what they can't do as a result of fear. (I'm aware of jealousy though).

8. Risks that involves other people especially your boss or superiors must be undertaken out of competence that you've gained before and logical conclusion. Even if you want to invest, these are the kind of people you will trust without hesitating.

9. Apart from fear, ego is another factor that will limit you. Potential benefits and outcomes must be considered first, because ego might blind your eyes from taking "worthy risks" or make you continue to sink in a quicksand when the envisaged result is a mirage or minuscule---sunk cost fallacy. Know when to act and when to stop. Ego or "I'm too big for this or this thing is too small for me" must not appear at the forefront.

10. Challenge your self every day and in most cases you'll find out that most risks are worth taking, though they involve life and death; time and chance. But with the right tools, right knowledge, right logical conclusion and at the right time, you will succeed.

Thanks.

ProphetJeroboam:
Men should never think they need to do well in life sorely to attract women because we think women don’t like unsuccessful men. Do well in life for the sole purpose of making yourself happy. Everything should be about you. Buy a new house because you love the house, buy a Ferrari because you love fast cars, eat at that fancy restaurant because you love good food, go on vacations because you want to spoil yourself. If you live aspects of your life to win a woman’s approval then you’re on the wrong path. Women are added benefits to a successful man, a successful man almost never actively seek out women. If a woman perceives you as selfish and self centered, you’re on the right path.

More on this, you can either be A or B based on women’s psychology.

A ;
Woman: That guy knows how to enjoy himself without giving a fvck and unapologetically, I should attach myself to him, maybe if I’m lucky, he will allow me taste a little from the numerous enjoyments he has stacked for “himself”.

B ;
Woman: That guy gives me everything I want(everything may be attention or money) , if I continue to string him along with the promise of sex then he will continue to give freely. After all I am a woman, he should labor for my attention and I will give it to him sparingly.


A: The woman is attempting to enter the man’s frame, he is the prize.

B: The man is wallowing in the woman’s frame, he is a loser.

CaveAdullam:
DAY 234, REDPILL 2021

To bring to your remembrance: it is not wise to be sexually intense with your female colleagues.

If she's your superior, she will play you around and threaten you with the job. If she's in your rank, she will abandon you to do all the work. If she's your subordinate, it will breed contempt and make her become complacent.

Your job/work and food are very important, don't jeopardize with them.

Authority: maintain frame.

On point mate.... �

Martinez39s:
Whether or not it is something one can afford to let go, whether or not one was emotionally involved, if a man wants to collect the stuffs he bought for a girl, there is nothing wrong in that.

If you see it as weakness and pettiness, na your own. In this place, we don't care. We don't give a fùck. If the opportunity is there and you can do it successfully, do it; nothing spoil. Funny enough, this issue of collecting your stuff back has been discussed here before, last year.

Rough sketch.

1. Women flakes, Men betrays.

2. It is (almost) impossible hovering around to collect your gifts when your formal allies sequester from you. It is "life threatening" as Regex mentioned, and time wasting and if you eventually succeed, a Pyrrhic victory. You will end up creating enemies all around.

3. Those being stopped as a result of dignity or ego have enough and wouldn't bother. But they don't know something: the microscale game being played on them which is in a crescendo that will lead to an established result when each microscales merge together.

4. A girl can date different guys at a time and collect gifts from each one to establish herself. Some for recharge cards, some for phones, some for clothes, some for bags, some for house rent, some for uber etc. Each guy is a micro in the macro. Based on the fact that he provides his allocated share and still remain noncognizant about other guys, he wouldn't be bothered asking for a return of his gifts after breakup. Meanwhile, the lady is now living comfortably with his resources and that of others that were once provided.

5. Marriage is the only form of heterosexual relationship I recognize, though it is still a manipulative one. But a father/husband provide for and protect his wife/wives and children because of the benefits he will gain. His children will further his genetic line, help him maintain his already established dynasty and he can use them as a positive leverage to get things or go places. And the wife too needs to be mentally sound and healthy because of the influence she has on the children in their early childhood.

Some may asked: do we not need to date before marriage? Lol! Story for another day.

6. Relationship must be mutual. Most especially, start gaining from them before they wake up to the game. This is a necessity when dealing with both men and women.

Sex is cheap and it can never be compared to expensive wigs, phones, monthly subscription, transport fares, bags, clothes etc. In fact, sex is enjoyed by both parties involved and men must not use these things in getting sex(as usual, there's an evolutionary background why men make offers for sex).

7. Be smart and manipulative as these women. Hide your resources, don't show off. If they have a greater investment in the relationship minus sex, they'll think twice before separating. Or, bear the loss.

8. The ladies I deal with work for me unknowingly, I definitely know they will require my help someday, but at any moment, I impose upon them to fix my tiles before their own day. And when they ask for help or something reasonable, I know I have already collected my own share beforehand.

9. Game enlightens men on the nature of women and how to get their maximum cooperation especially when it involves sex and relationship. The essence of game is for the man not to lose out his heart, money, gifts, time and attention when dealing with women.

10. It's not a matter of give what you can lose. Political and celebrity simps can lose houses, cars etc. on these daughters of Eve because they know that their source never runs dry. Relationship should be based on mutual benefits at least or the man being the parasite.


PS: "since you can no longer fvck me, cook for me, run errands for me, do some of my biddings, I think it will also be nice if you bring back what I used to easily identify you amidst other ladies". However, this will only be the case if you used money and gifts to simp to her pants. If not, you don't have any problem.

Guard your resources with all diligence.

With joy in my heart and the spirit of Morpheus within me:

DAY 236, REDPILL 2021

CaveAdullam:


Rough Sketch

1. Women flakes, Men betrays.

2. It is (almost) impossible hovering around to collect your gifts when your formal allies sequester from you. It is "life threatening" as Regex as mentioned, and time wasting and if you eventually succeed, a Pyrrhic victory. You will end up creating enemies all around.

3. Those being stopped as a result of dignity or ego have enough and wouldn't bother. But they don't know something: the microscale game being played on them which is in a crescendo that will lead to an established result when each microscales merge together.

4. A girl can date different guys at a time and collect gifts from each one to establish herself. Some for recharge cards, some for phones, some for clothes, some for bags, some for house rent, some for uber etc. Each guy is a micro in the macro. Based on the fact that he provides his allocated share and still remain noncognizant about other guys, he wouldn't be bothered asking for a return of his gifts after breakup. Meanwhile, the lady is now living comfortably with his resources and that of others that were once provided.

5. Marriage is the only form of heterosexual relationship I recognize, though it is still a manipulative one. But a father/husband provide for and protect his wife/wives and children because of the benefits he will gain. His children will further his genetic line, help him maintain his already established dynasty and he can use them as a positive leverage to get things or go places.

Some may asked: do we not need to date before marriage? Lol! Story for another day.

6. Relationship must be mutual. Most especially, start gaining from them before they wake up to the game. This is a necessity when dealing with both men and women.

Sex is cheap and it can never be compared to expensive wigs, phones, monthly subscription, transport fares, bags, clothes etc. In fact, sex is enjoyed by both parties involved and men must not use these things in getting sex(as usual, there's an evolutionary background why men make offers for sex).

7. Be smart and manipulative as these women. Hide your resources, don't show off. If they have a greater investment in the relationship minus sex, they'll think twice before separating. Or, bear the loss.

8. The ladies I deal with work for me unknowingly, I definitely know they will require my help someday, but at any moment, I impose upon them to fix my tiles before their own day. And when they ask for help or something reasonable, I know I have already collected my own share beforehand.

9. Game enlightens men on the nature of women and how to get their maximum cooperation especially when it involves sex and relationship. The essence of game is for the man not to lose out his heart, money, gifts, time and attention when dealing with women.

10. It's not a matter of give what you can lose. Political and celebrity simps can lose houses, cars etc. on these daughters of Eve because they know that their source never runs dry. Relationship should be based on mutual benefits at least or the man being the parasite.


PS: "since you can no longer fvck me, cook for me, run errands for me, do some of my biddings, I think it will also be nice if you bring back what I used to easily identify you amidst other ladies". However, this will only be the case if you used money and gifts to simp to her pants. If not, you don't have any problem.

Authority: Guard your resources with all diligence.

Martinez39s:
When you are so emotional, petty, childish and feminine minded that you are fond of creating many alternate accounts to respond to yourself, flatter yourself and do many more.

I didn't mention any name. No one should quote me to fight.

So na the Idiot alternate be that

Tonnyray:
Dayum, where did this guy come from?
This is what I registered here for.
Preach bro!
Don't you dare drop that mic!!!

I like His vibes too

I finally have a lil time to spare to read the self improvement books I have accrued over the past 3 years.

How do you suggest that I go about reading them in order to get the most from them?
I don't want to be overwhelmed, but I want to make sure I properly digest them.

Any tip would be appreciated.

Skepticus, Undercover, Caveadullam martinez32 bloodysperm, et al.

.

Junnior:
I finally have a lil time to spare to read the self improvement books I have accrued over the past 3 years.

How do you suggest that I go about reading them in order to get the most from them?
I don't want to be overwhelmed, but I want to make sure I properly digest them.

Any tip would be appreciated.

Skepticus, Undercover, Caveadullam martinez32 bloodysperm, et al.

Things or activities that are valuable and will bring you much development cost a lot of time and sacrifice. If you are not disciplined, you'll not get much.

For reading, it's all about IQ, energy, realism, openness, conscientious, time and passion. If you don't rank high or little above average in these traits, you will not enjoy reading or will give up quickly because reading is boring and burdensome.

1. Should in case you don't rank high in the aforementioned traits, read summaries or start with books with short pages. Or, listen to audio books or watch the book summaries on YouTube.

2. If you rank high, read the complete book because it will make you gain more than the summaries, give you opportunity to learn new words and improve on your vocabulary.

3. Start teaching what you read. This is the second best bait to reading after writing. The more you teach and write, the more you will want to read and assimilate the right knowledge.

4. For me, my target is at least 3 books a month, 10 days for each book, 1 hour per 20 pages. And most of the books are 300 pages and above.

Set your limit as per your reading speed and how many books you want to cover in a month.

5. I hardly skip any line when reading, but it is necessary because some lines, sentences or pages doesn't make sense and you will not lose out of the main theme if you skip.

6. Select the best of the books among a particular genre. For example for power, game and manipulations, Robert Greene books comes first and the best. Even if you don't read other books in that same genre, you won't lose out. Don't waste time trying to read all the books in a genre except it is of great necessity and you want to carve a niche there.

These I know of and do.

Thanks.

Junnior:
I finally have a lil time to spare to read the self improvement books I have accrued over the past 3 years.

How do you suggest that I go about reading them in order to get the most from them?
I don't want to be overwhelmed, but I want to make sure I properly digest them.

Any tip would be appreciated.

Skepticus, Undercover, Caveadullam martinez32 bloodysperm, et al.

Things or activities that are valuable and will bring you much development cost a lot of time and sacrifice. If you are not disciplined, you'll not get much.

For reading, it's all about IQ, energy, realism, openness, conscientious, time and passion. If you don't rank high or little above average in these traits, you will not enjoy reading or will give up quickly because reading is boring and burdensome.

1. Should in case you don't rank high in the aforementioned traits, read summaries or start with books with short pages. Or, listen to audio books or watch the book summaries on YouTube.

2. If you rank high, read the complete book because it will make you gain more than the summaries, give you opportunity to learn new words and improve on your vocabulary.

3. Start teaching what you read. This is the second best bait to reading after writing. The more you teach and write, the more you will want to read and assimilate the right knowledge.

4. For me, my target is at least 3 books a month, 10 days for each book, 1 hour per 20 pages. And most of the books are 300 pages and above.

Set your limit as per your reading speed and how many books you want to cover in a month.

5. I hardly skip any line when reading, but it is necessary because some lines, sentences or pages doesn't make sense and you will not lose out of the main theme if you skip. On the otherhand, because I carefully select for the books I read, I usually find myself reading them twice, thrice... in order to get to the nitty gritty or scenarios I must have missed during the first round.

6. Select the best of the books among a particular genre. For example for power, game and manipulations, Robert Greene books comes first and the best. Even if you don't read other books in that same genre, you won't lose out. Don't waste time trying to read all the books in a genre except it is of great necessity and you want to carve a niche there.

These I know of and do.

Thanks.

Martinez39s:
Women always trying to play smart. Sometimes, to deal with a woman and put her in her place, you have to match her craze for craze.

. True...


But when you try to act ruthless with them..



You suddenly become a monster...



Someone will say you are not a man for demanding back your property..


Some properties are insignificant and petty to ask for return...


It's left to us to use our discretion to know which is which...


When to let go and when to show craze

Jessepaid:
Hehehe...

There is something that you should know...

Women don't really value the stuff they got for free..

That's why most girls will give you sex when you promise to buy an item for them..

They see the sex as a prepaid payment for your gift..

An engineer friend of mine at the company I work and I got talking some weeks back...

He said he broke up with one of his girlfriends when he asked for his television and DVD player and the girls said whether she has not already used sex to pay him...

This was 1990 something oh...

I always say never put yourself in a position for a woman to tie herself to you and never tie yourself to a woman...

Mind you alot of women are entitled and senseless...

I was talking to one foolish girl yesterday...

She said if a man bought a gift for her and ask for it back in return she would not give him..

I asked her why...

She said because she didn't beg him for the gift in the first instance...

Can you imagine?

I also heard a case of a man who was abroad and had a girlfriend in Nigeria...


He was sending money for the girl to buy properties..


The girl was buying it in her name...


In the end the guy didn't get married to her..


He came back from overseas and demanded for his deeds to his properties...

She refused to release them...

She was hunted like a dog by men of the NPF...

She eventually gave it up...

If you allow a woman tie herself to you or tie yourself to a woman like the mugu in my story above...

You will always be at her mercy..

In Esther Vilar's 'The Manipulated Man'---it explores the concept of the "dishonest wh*re"---explaining that deep down women want to be paid dates, gifts, cash and in fact, a combination of all, for the "access" they grant a man.

Now, because they don't want to be tagged wh*res, they keep that expectation implicit, and throw all the coy signs that they expect a man to read.
Having consensual sex and tagging a man "stingy" because he gave nothing or not something enough (even when there wasn't a pre-agreed term of payment) is that wh*redom at play.

It's "dishonest" because it is within that "I'm not a wh*re" guise, but it's wh*redom nonetheless because they expected to be paid for their time and the access granted.
-Aghosagbamu

Dear simp

Are you trying to reach her again?

She must be really feeling herself nw

Thanks Caveadullam

I initially didn't want to say anything, but now I am going to unapologetically state my opinion on this matter:

It is stup1d to collect back stuff that you gifted someone, boy or girl. There's no sense in it, as far as I'm concerned.

If things didn't go as you wanted, take your L and fvcking move on.

Collect back what was supposedly a gift -- who does that? It's disgusting sh1t. It's simp behaviour, as far as I'm concerned. It reeks of emotional pain.

I get it that it, for instance, hurt a lot when you buy her a car and other nice things, but she breaks up with you and continues flexing with all you got for her. But then, think about it, those things, did you lend her or you gave her?
It is simps that attach emotions to material things they buy for their women. As a redpill aware guy, you know that you don't do that. You only give her what she deserves and what you can afford to let go without hiccups.

For me, it isn't about ego or anything like that. If I give someone something, it's theirs forever regardless of what transpires between us later on. There is no sense in asking someone to return my gift, because for me to have given that gift, it means he/she deserved it. (Also, collecting back the gift will not correct the wrong that has already been done. It won't make you FEEL better. You're still gonna despise her afterwards.
That action of collecting back your gift is simply an emotional response. It's not logical. It's not necessary. It's not needed.)

If things between us later turn sour, I just move on.

Thanks.

If you want to collect your stuff back, collect. If you don't want to collect it back don't collect it. It is your money not mine, do whatever you want.

Junnior:
I finally have a lil time to spare to read the self improvement books I have accrued over the past 3 years.

How do you suggest that I go about reading them in order to get the most from them?
I don't want to be overwhelmed, but I want to make sure I properly digest them.

Any tip would be appreciated.


Skepticus, Undercover, Caveadullam martinez32 bloodysperm, et al.

Cave has already done Justice to it.

I'm in support of anything that makes a man better. Reading and having an open mind in learning more is a significant part of it.

Skepticus:


Cave has already done Justice to it.

I'm in support of anything that makes a man better. Reading and having an open mind in learning more is a significant part of it.

Thanks

Saviolamemphix:
Even quavo collect him Bentley from saweti who com b me

If i gift u anything and and i notice say u no worth am ah go collect am

According to pansophist never b a gentle man to a shameless woman.

Esther Vilar and Rollo Tomassi discussed it in detail, of how men's ego end up being their downfall in their dealings with women and life in general, but as it is, ignorant men struggle to understand it.

Take whatever decision you want to take as a man, depending on your judgement of an issue but never be hoodwinked into doing it, just to please a lady. Whenever a woman tells you that you should tolerate her bûllshiit because as a man, you should be tough and stoic, (which is essential in masculinity) bla bla... Just know it that you are about to be fûcked with your "value" gradually depreciating before her.

Save your money, masculine ego and stoicism for developing yourself and "competing" in the "game" of life.

Being nice, tolerating being treated poorly by women and letting them get away with it, just to be in the good books of everyone is good for the typically blue-pilled society but the innate sub-conscious psyche of women, just like the females of the other animal species, don't "reward" men for being "nice". It is unnatural. Hominid apes (includes humans) and other animal species that survived to this age never evolved on being "nice". To women, you must be of certain "benefit" to her before you are "rewarded" - The red pill fact of putting herself/interest first using every means including shaming a man for standing up for himself and manipulating him using his masculine ego, to achieve this aim.

Peaceyw:
If you want to collect your stuff back, collect. If you don't want to collect it back don't collect it. It is your money not mine, do whatever you want.

simple and short! some people go come here just to dig up old arguments and arguments is the only thing that gets me tired about this thread, like the issue of paying for s*x I no know why people still dey bring up that old argument, do what works for you but don't share the blue pill ideology here do this and you are good to go.