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Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by queensmith: 3:25am On Feb 19, 2011 |
story is definitely not clear, there has to be more to it. The daily mail isnt known for its accuracy! First things first, if there was legitimate fear for the child in the hands of his parents, since he is underage he would have been taken away by social services. There would never have been any sort of court order to begin with! secondly its against the law to forcefully send your child away in the UK-british citizen or not, thats why the forced marriage laws protect them. While it might not specifically be for forced marriage, the child is still being sent away against his/her will and subject to torture and so on. thirdly it sounds to me the judge is more annoyed that the woman refused to listen to the courts, rather than because she sent her child to nigeria the boy has to be some kind of idiot sha, knowing very well his parents are tryna send him back why will he agree to go nigeria in the first place?? |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by delimit(m): 9:23am On Feb 19, 2011 |
read detail of the whole saga http://www.saharareporters.com/press-release/edirin-onojeta-idogun-case-judicial-terrorism-uk |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by duduspace(m): 11:09am On Feb 19, 2011 |
Sagamite: All this has arisen from your imagination, yu have made up all sorts of conclusions about a case you have little facts about and concluded about imaginary scenarios based on your own prejudices. Morals are not being judged here but adherence to the laws of a country in which an individual 'willingly' chose to be resident. If you believe you can't properly raise a child in the west then don't take them there. There are a thousand and one other Nigerians who have no problems raising up their children there and are still raising up their childrent over there without any problems. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by AngieFan(f): 2:01pm On Feb 19, 2011 |
^^^ Sagamite is taking the press release by Mrs Erhire's Legal team or support group on Sahara reporters as fact. Click on the link below to read it. http://www.saharareporters.com/press-release/edirin-onojeta-idogun-case-judicial-terrorism-uk However the link below is the press release from Edirin's Legal team http://www.dawsoncornwell.co.uk/en/documents/press_release_Onojeta-Idogun.pdf I think in order to be objective one has to read both and or at least wait to read the court transcripts before making a judgement. |
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Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by agitator: 4:45pm On Feb 19, 2011 |
this spoiled sagamite dude thinks UK is like nigeria where there parents have stolen all the money, and are above the law. keep dreaming |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Sagamite(m): 4:48pm On Feb 19, 2011 |
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Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by ifele(m): 8:43pm On Feb 19, 2011 |
@Angiefan How do you know the boy is gay? |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by lastpage: 11:10pm On Feb 19, 2011 |
Hmmmm, see as Oyinbo dey mess up the life of Nigerians who have themselves, exposed themselves first! "If the wall did not crack, how can a lizard enter there-in"? This is what divorce causes. Think before you send that your husband packing, the repercussions might take long to come but when they come, you'll be on your own. ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by AngieFan(f): 1:24am On Feb 20, 2011 |
^^ @Lastpage Excellent breakdown, although I do disagree with one or two things but won't go into that now. However, in regards to this: And what would happen to Madam, if after the jail term is served and the young man is still unavailable in U.K? Mum will receive a lifetime criminal record which she will have to declare each time she goes for a job and there could even be a risk of deportation if she doesn't already have a British passport. It may also have and effect on her should she will to go to America in future. I think the forced/arranged marriage is a long term view and not something that the family want to happen right away. They just want him to be in Nigeria where they believe he can be purged of his homosexual tendencies, finish his education and probably get married by the age of 21. The family may succeed by keeping the son in Nigeria but he will forever remain a homosexual and so they need to ask themselves if it will be better for him to be gay in Nigeria or in the UK where views on such lifestyles are more liberal. I would hate to hear of Edirin been beaten to death because of his sexual orientation. I notice that the UK media and the UK lawyer's press release have both been very careful not to mention the name of the Trust that Edirin approached. However the name of Trust was printed fully in the press release on Sahara Reporters and I feel that could probably do a lot more harm than good. One of the commentators on Sahara Reporters even threatened to kill Edirin for being gay - I conclude that Nigeria is not a safe place for a young openly gay teen to be and he should be brought back before the beatings go too far or some other drastic thing happens. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by AngieFan(f): 1:28am On Feb 20, 2011 |
@Lastpage: Why did you edit your post? |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by doe: 11:59am On Feb 20, 2011 |
Kennedy Emetulu has potentially put the boy's life in danger by mentioning the charity involved. if only there is some reporting restriction so he can be done for contempt. For someone who claim to be a lawyer, his press release is a disgrace. Below is the Full text of Edirin lawyers press release which makes more sense than the rubbish statement from Kennedy Emetulu and his RNC gang. Nigerians always let emotions rule their head.
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Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by oludashmi(f): 12:31pm On Feb 20, 2011 |
Hmmn. . .terrible ![]() ![]() See, if I were his mother, the moment I am thru with all the jail wahala, I will relocate to Nigeria with my fsmily and lets see any gov. mwho will hold me for that. But the prob is that many of them have vowed not to come back to Nig but wants their kids to have a Nigerian disciplinme mentality. That wont be possile. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by tlops(m): 8:06pm On Feb 20, 2011 |
its not as easy as u imagine, |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by seyibrown(f): 1:41am On Feb 21, 2011 |
Forced marriages DEFINITELY happen in Southern Nigeria but not involve 10 -13 year olds! ![]() Even older educated Nigerians are forced to marry those they don't want to by their parents! FORCED MARRIAGES DO HAPPEN IN SOUTHERN NIGERIA! |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Nobody: 2:57am On Feb 21, 2011 |
well, i've heard of forced marriages but never actually seen any? ![]() and the one i heard of was from decades ago [like the 60s or something] involving a girl who wanted to marry her boyfriend but instead was betrothed to someone else. She ran away but was brought back. very sad story but i doubt the same still happens these days. Definitely not the norm anyway, so i seriously doubt this current tale. And in the rare instances where it does happen, it often involves the girl being forced, not the boy. the mother should appeal. lord have mercy. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by allanohize(m): 4:40am On Feb 21, 2011 |
My dear people, How many Nigerian boys of 17years, south of the Niger, have been forced to marry in the last 200 years? NONE! This is just a story cooked up to give this case a bite, and to punish the mother of the boy. The boy is gay, his mother is awed, she wants to send him back home to be disciplined and straightened up. boy doesnt know what to do, he contacts gay friends, they advise him, the advice didnt work; so he lies that he is about to be forced into marriage. mother is jailed for sending him home and not letting him come back. Please whoever is holding this boy, give him 100 strokes of bulala (sharia style) every day his mother remains incarcerated. And when you are done, please design some tribal marks on his face (ogbomosho style) let him know that he is a true Nigerian! Nonesense! Please we need pictures of the boy. Let us spit on him, piss on him anywhere we see him! By jailing the mother, the UK has shown us how protective and "tolerant" of silly practices they can be. We, as Nigerians, should also show the world how resilient we are in pursuing good home training and better future for our children. If the UK makes an example of the woman, let Nigerians make an example of the boy too! After all he is still bearing Urhobo name and not Jack John Stone or some other funny English names. http://www.saharareporters.com/press-release/edirin-onojeta-idogun-case-judicial-terrorism-uk |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Outstrip(f): 5:41am On Feb 21, 2011 |
If it is indeed true that he was showing homosexual tendencies and his mother sent him to Nigeria to be straightened out then it is safe to say that he needs to be sent back to the UK where he will not be abused. I believe the forced marriage allegation especially if you people are saying he might be gay. I am sure that people are ignorant enough to think that if they force him to marry he will all of sudden see the light |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by lacidi: 8:58am On Feb 21, 2011 |
It is clear after reading most of the comments here, that many of the people on Nairaland have never lived in Nigeria before nor even visited this country. How a person who has ever lived in Nigeria will say that there is a possibility of forced marriage for a male child of 17 is beyond reason. Am shocked that people that call themselves Nigerians can actually make such assertions and it goes to show the level we will go in order to justify whatever the Oyibo people say about us. For the avoidance of doubt, there is no way, I repeat, no way, a 17 year of MAN can be forced to marry in Nigeria, be he gay, hermaphrodite or whatever. The boy's father is a special adviser in Udaghan's government. The boy is presently schooling in a private secondary school (one of the most expensive in Nigeria) in Lagos. To date we have not seen the girl (maybe a 14 year old) he was being forced to marry. He has not also mentioned the name of any such girl. Or maybe they are still sourcing for the 14 year old? Will he also be forced to get an erection and sleep with the girl? We should not let objectivity be thrown out of the window just because we want to patronize our oyibo masters. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by vanitty: 9:18am On Feb 21, 2011 |
^^^ It really does not matter if the boy was lying or not ( infact I suspect he was misbehaving at home hence the mama taking him to Nigeria and the boy or his lawyer just made up the forced marriage story, No enlightened parent marries off a 17 year old boy!) but the instant the court granted the protection order, it was very silly of the mother to take the boy out of the country. How hard is that to understand ![]() UK might not be the best place in the world but one thing you can't fault them on, is the fact that they take their child protection rights very seriously We all understand the woman's pain but the law is the law, I do feel for her but again the law is the law. E ma gbe ise yin wo ilu elomiran. The only advice I can give the woman is after the jail sentence, if she insists on not bringing the boy back, she should move back to Nigeria. It is a shame sha, the relationship between mother and son might be forever ruined. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by skfa1: 10:54am On Feb 21, 2011 |
I still cant believe that we (Nigerians) are still sleeping. Can somebody tell us what "Dua national" means? Is there any evidence that shows that the boy was sent to Nigerian for force marriage? What is the Nigerian government doing on this case? or are they just folding their arms while the mother case was in court? If the woman has British and Nigeria passport, dont let us forget that both the governments should know about this case before the judge make the final decision. Do both governments (British and Nigeria) have copy of the case before the court date? There are so many things we need to look into if a person is a citizen of a country. My advice to some people on here - If you dont know much about a particular country, dont come here and run your mouth like a tap water. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Dreamchaser1(f): 2:12pm On Feb 21, 2011 |
This is a devilish society. That woman is great. She made a sacrifice for her sons future that an oyinbo would never understand. For those of u who think once gay always gay, I know a guy who was very gay when growing up but now he is straight. The woman has a right to protect her child from all this evil influences. Homosexualism is a wrong choice ppl get to make and get addicted to, but with help they can change. God bless his mama! Let him stay in 9ja, u would see a diff cos he won't meet brainwashers here. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Gemma11: 2:15pm On Feb 21, 2011 |
*Sigh* I wish people would at least apply a bit of common sense before wearing their patrirotism cloak and crying victimg. There facts are there and clear as day. The boy with his own free will approached a gay organisation for help. They didn't seek him out This gay organisation regularly deals with young teens who have come out of the closet, especially those from families with strong cultural values who may consider having a gay son an embarassment. This gay organisation regularly deals with gay men from all cultures and ethnic groups who fear that they may be made to get married in order to cure their homosexual afflictions. This organisation normally aids the trouble individuals to file court orders to protect their human rights. Given those fact, Edirin's story, whether he is pretending to be gay or not is not unrealistic to these people and they would have given him the benefit of the doubt. This organisation has probably heard the same story before as may the Judge in question. The article below states that there have been a rise in forced marriage orders for gay men - including those with African backgrounds so there is a clear precedence in this case. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/01/gay-men-forced-marriage The Judge is not going to waste time investigating whether gay men are forced to marry in Nigeria. Their only concern is Edirin's human rights and Mrs Erhire was implicat in breaching the order in place.
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Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Gemma11: 2:20pm On Feb 21, 2011 |
Dream chaser: That's disgusting! What woman in her right mind would lay down with a man that has been exploring another man's backside! ![]() ![]() Once a gay always a gay. Gay's may get married and pretend they are straight but then they probably having discreet homosexual liaisons on the side. Definetly not worth it. Besides Nigeria is not a safe place for a gay man |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by alldone(m): 3:50pm On Feb 21, 2011 |
this is so sad, after the jail term then what? |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by lastpage: 3:38am On Feb 22, 2011 |
@Angie Fan @Lastpage: Why did you edit your post? ![]() ![]() I took the issue "too personal" but on second thought, l felt "our people" dont really like the TRUTH (as in the hard truth). I feel for the parents. Its sad when you remember that "tiny tot" in your hands, when he was barely one week old, and what he now turns out to be! WHAT A WASTE? I hope ma people will learn one or two "salient things" from this wahala: Does the "lone parent" upbringing have anything to do with the boy's eventual turn-out in life? Two Good Heads are better than one! Parents should stick together, at least for the sake of their children. NOT WHEN ITS TOO LATE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Sagamite(m): 6:10am On Feb 22, 2011 |
vanitty: GBAM! When the boy is 18, under both Nigerian and UK law he is no more the ward of anybody and can do whatever he wants to do with his life. lacidi: Thank you. It is RIDICULOUS to say a 17 year old MALE will be forced into marriage in Southern Nigeria where they do not practice forced marriage. You are right some people probably have never lived in Nigeria and go by the stereotype that the western media feeds them. I would not be surprised if some think most people in Nigeria are starving and live on UN food aid since some Africans are like that. seyibrown: How can it be forced marriage when she eventually married the boy she wanted to marry? Try and understand the difference between pressured arranged marriage and forced marriage. Someone saying "I am your father and you should respect my wishes of who I want you to marry otherwise I will disown you" is different from "I will kill/beat you if you refuse to marry this person. You have no choice, you are dead if you marry any other person or run away and your marriage is taking place in one month" with possibly the person is even locked in a place and forced to go with the process. Gemma11: This is probably the best thing you have said on the issue so far. Now read you own Guardian article and notice 3 things: 1) The emphasis on the Asian (Indian) sub-continent, not Africa. That sub-continent is where the act of forced marriage is prevalent and why I kept on saying Ughelli is not Pakistan. 2) The emphasis on GIRLS. It is pretty much quite hard to force even boys in those Asian sub-continent countries to marry, hence it is usually girls. 3) Furthermore, note the article did not say which African country. Now from the way you apply dialectics and your position on this issue, I am pretty sure most likely your formative years was in the West and most likely you are still in your formative years. So let me tell you, Africa is a BIG place with a wide range of COMPLETELY DIFFERENT people with DIFFERENT ways. When they say Africa in their ignorant bundling, it does not necessarily mean Nigeria. When they said in the article lazily that forced marriage happened in Africa without specifying which country, they might have meant in places like Somalia, Sudan or Mauritania, that does not mean it is weighty evidence it happened or can happen in Nigeria, ESPECIALLY in a SOUTHERN Nigeria tribe that is not even Islamic. Just like when they lazily said forced marriage also happened in Eastern Europe, I can GUARANTEE you it did not happen in Poland, Croatia, Czech Rep etc, it must be places like Azerbaijan, Albania or Turkey. So when anyone makes such claim to you about a 17 year old MALE being forced into marriage in Southern Nigeria, I would expect you in the future to really say "Bullshit", the possibility is virtually ZERO! |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Dreamchaser1(f): 8:07am On Feb 23, 2011 |
@Gemma11, sadly, I can see you are one of the brain washed ones. Too bad you don't believe in redemption. Atleast, you must have met some bisexual men right? |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Gemma11: 1:26pm On Feb 23, 2011 |
Dream chaser: So you are sayign that you would willingly and knowingly marry a man that was previously a homosexual or would have no problems betrothing your daughter to such a man?? I wouldn't. @Sagamite I didn't read all you said but I got the gist of it. In English law 17 year old Edirin's wishes take precedence over his mothers. The facts are that Edirin is still in contact with his British lawyers and has made his wishes very clear; He doesn't want to be in Nigeria and doesnt want to go to school in Nigeria. Edirin also states that he is being beaten and made to go through exorcisms and wants to come back to England where he has a place at college to do his A'levels. If Mrs Erhire refuses to comply with the law of the land she chose to live in then she should go back to Nigeria. Simple as ABC! As for Edririn, he will be 18 in a few weeks and so no doubt he will be be back in England with the help of the British Embassy unless he is unlawfully arrested by Nigerian immigration again. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by enomakos(m): 2:08pm On Feb 23, 2011 |
strange |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Dreamchaser1(f): 2:19pm On Feb 23, 2011 |
@Gemma11, yes I would. because I do not have a problem with homosexuals but with homosexual activity. Love is not about which dick gets into what hole or which hole a dick gets into, unfortunately love is more complicated than that. |
Re: Nigerian Mother Jailed In The Uk For Sending Son To Nigeria. by Gemma11: 2:55pm On Feb 23, 2011 |
@Dreamchaser I also have no problem with homosexuals otherwise I wouldn't be here defending Edirin's choices. However sleeping with a man who has indulged in homosexual activity and who is likely to continue to do so undercover while in sham relationships with women is extremely risky healthwise. It was only the other day I was watching a show on Oprah where a lady had contracted HIV from her husband who had been sleeping with men on the downlow while being married to her. There are many ladies who have the same story to tell and many have also died from AIDS. Just in case you didn't know the risk of getting HIV is significantly higher between homosexual men than they are in heterosexual relationships between a man and a woman. Loving someone else is one thing but you should love yourself more not to put yourself at risk. Given what I know, Ii would never put myself or loved ones at risk of being married to a man like that because I don't believe that they can change and even if they tell you they have then they are probably doing it behind closed doors. http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Why-Bridget-Sued-Her-Husband-for-12-Million-Dollars Also google Eddie Long and Ted Haggard. I am not judging these men but I don't think they should live a lie at the risk of hurting others. |
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