sunshineV:
thats an insult to his mum. u are f00lish

its not, stupidity and ignorance make you think it is.

SimeonOTC:


its not, stupid and ignorance make you think it is.

Fine. ur mum womb will not seed good seed only tears and sorrow ijn ammmmeeeeeeennn!

ggirl4real:
I don't understand why we should thank God for all these things.

Aside from number 10 (which is just a mindset), how sure are we that it is "God" that make these things possible?

If He's the one, I think all atheists and free thinkers should be denied these things.

Since everyone has access to these things you've mentioned, I don't see why we should thank God for them.

As a matter of fact, I'm very sure that there are many Christians who are struggling to access these things. Some die in the process while some free thinkers are still enjoying full access. Whose fault is this?

Hi, you have the right to opine anything you like but it's clear you need help. I can tell you that authoritatively. You call yourself a free thinker right? Have you thought out the way water large as an ocean hangs in the sky? Have you thought out how your small thinking engine helping you to "think freely" was formed alongside the bones, muscles, CNS, cartilages, large and small organs from just mixture of your father's sperm and mother's egg. I engage you to think more my good friend. If you think God will deny you air because you misbehave, then you're trying to bring God down to a very low level where He doesn't operate. That level is occupied by mortals like you and fallen immortals like Satan who is presently at work in you. God is deep and you can't think out his ways. He is also very merciful, patient and loving waiting for a perfect opportunity to disabuse your mind and make you fall on your knees before Him. When the Spirit of Jesus invades your heart, thanksgiving will never cease from your mouth again. I understand that you're young and carefree now but you can still know God now that you're young. Think on this words.

eagleonearth:
Hi, you have the right to opine anything you like but it's clear you need help. I can tell you that authoritatively. You call yourself a free thinker right? Have you thought out the way water large as an ocean hangs in the sky? Have you thought out how your small thinking engine helping you to "think freely" was formed alongside the bones, muscles, CNS, cartilages, large and small organs from just mixture of your father's sperm and mother's egg. I engage you to think more my good friend. If you think God will deny you air because you misbehave, then you're trying to bring God down to a very low level where He doesn't operate. That level is occupied by mortals like you and fallen immortals like Satan who is presently at work in you. God is deep and you can't think out his ways. He is also very merciful, patient and loving waiting for a perfect opportunity to disabuse your mind and make you fall on your knees before Him. When the Spirit of Jesus invades your heart, thanksgiving will never cease from your mouth again. I understand that you're young and carefree now but you can still know God now that you're young. Think on this words.

Sir, I agree with you that the universe is complex and so well-organized and there must have been a strong force behind it.

My questions:

What is the strong force? According to Christians, it must be God.

Any prove? According to Christians, the Bible says so

What if I the Bible is wrong? According to Christians, you just have to believe since it is the Bible that said it.

I'm not saying God didn't create the universe, I'm only asking for proves which no one has been able to give a convincing answer, even science.

But my only worry is the high level of confidence and conclusion from Christians that their God created the universe even when I'm sure that they were not there.

I'm not an atheist coz I can't prove that God does not exist.

However, if God exists and you communicate with Him and He listens to you, please beg Him to help us in Nigeria. Our country is getting more rotten everyday. At least, if God should provide the needs of all Christians, we'll have less corruption and less to worry about in this country. That's my major concern o.

God is a Misery. Let just give thanks to who soever makes everything possible. Self or God

ggirl4real:
I don't understand why we should thank God for all these things.

Aside from number 10 (which is just a mindset), how sure are we that it is "God" that make these things possible?

If He's the one, I think all atheists and free thinkers should be denied these things.

Since everyone has access to these things you've mentioned, I don't see why we should thank God for them.

As a matter of fact, I'm very sure that there are many Christians who are struggling to access these things. Some die in the process while some free thinkers are still enjoying full access. Whose fault is this?

With every respect, your comment shows how wretched you are in wisdom, especially higher wisdom.

I don't know if you're trying to just attach attention or is this really your knowledge can hold.

If you think that because you sunshine, the rainfall and the air we breathe are not regulated or given to some and denied to others, and for this, there's no supreme power that has these, then, your situation is pathetic.

If they are by your strength, how come you'll submit the breathe to death when the owner of the breathe requires it from you.

You also think that the Almighty God behaves like your tiny god you worship who only considers only his few followers and try to kill who does not follow him. This is why you think that God Almighty should not have allowed some ppl have access to good things from him.

Finally, some Christians struggling to have some good things of this world does not rule out the supremacy of God. He is God of rules and structures.
He does not favour ignorance, laziness and believing in windfall.

There are laid down rules. If you invest well, you'll reap well. If you do not follow some rules, you'll suffer the consequences. Do you expect God to just give you everything you need just by bn a Christian?
This is funny and irrational if you think this way.

eagleonearth:
Hi, you have the right to opine anything you like but it's clear you need help. I can tell you that authoritatively. You call yourself a free thinker right? Have you thought out the way water large as an ocean hangs in the sky? Have you thought out how your small thinking engine helping you to "think freely" was formed alongside the bones, muscles, CNS, cartilages, large and small organs from just mixture of your father's sperm and mother's egg. I engage you to think more my good friend. If you think God will deny you air because you misbehave, then you're trying to bring God down to a very low level where He doesn't operate. That level is occupied by mortals like you and fallen immortals like Satan who is presently at work in you. God is deep and you can't think out his ways. He is also very merciful, patient and loving waiting for a perfect opportunity to disabuse your mind and make you fall on your knees before Him. When the Spirit of Jesus invades your heart, thanksgiving will never cease from your mouth again. I understand that you're young and carefree now but you can still know God now that you're young. Think on this words.

Someone comes to ur shop and says he wants to buy bread and u quickly go and bring ceiling fan.

Someone is asking how we are sure it's God that we should thank for good things when everyone could have good things by doing what right, Good and bad things happen to everybody body bofh believers and non believers u are asking how water as large as ocean hangs in the sky, what has that got to do with anything?
If he accepts that it's God that hangs water in the sky how then can we prove that God should be thanked for good things that can happen to anybody?

hopefulLandlord:


Well said.

for your final question about who's fault it is, they'd say "god works in mysterious ways, his ways are unfathomable to man". they'd attempt to eat their cake and have it

You this hopeful landlord with your comments

Psoul:


With every respect, your comment shows how wretched you are in wisdom, especially higher wisdom.

I don't know if you're trying to just attach attention or is this really your knowledge can hold.

If you think that because you sunshine, the rainfall and the air we breathe are not regulated or given to some and denied to others, and for this, there's no supreme power that has these, then, your situation is pathetic.

If they are by your strength, how come you'll submit the breathe to death when the owner of the breathe requires it from you.

You also think that the Almighty God behaves like your tiny god you worship who only considers only his few followers and try to kill who does not follow him. This is why you think that God Almighty should not have allowed some ppl have access to good things from him.

Finally, some Christians struggling to have some good things of this world does not rule out the supremacy of God. He is God of rules and structures.
He does not favour ignorance, laziness and believing in windfall.

There are laid down rules. If you invest well, you'll reap well. If you do not follow some rules, you'll suffer the consequences. Do you expect God to just give you everything you need just by bn a Christian?
This is funny and irrational if you think this way.

Christians and emotions. Na wa for una o...

You've made so many assumptions about me even when you don't know me.

I know you guys can go to any length to defend your beliefs but can't you guys really do that without insults?

Anyway, let me point out some of your errors:

(a) You talked about me being wretched in "higher wisdom". Whatever that means. The question I asked is based on the reality on ground. I'm a human not spirit so I view things from the realistic aspect. I think I have a right to do so. I'm not breaking any law in the Nigerian constitution.

(b) You assumed that I don't believe in a " supreme power". Did I tell you that?

(c) You said I serve a "tiny god". Please which one is that? Where does he live?

(d) Finally, I still maintain that if God is all-powerful, no christian should suffer, whether lazy or not. Be sincere, if your father is the richest in the universe, will you still have to suffer and strive?

Please, you can express your opinions but try to avoid insults but if you still feel that you have to throw insults to drive home your point, I'm sorry because I won't know how to reply you with insult and your insults won't make " unbelievers" to stop asking questions.

hopefulLandlord:


How's the poster stupid? because he refuses to think like you lot?

both of u are super stupid, can u pay 4 d very life u have? And u have d gut to say rubbish with ur mouth, may God have mercy on u both

The right up is perfect...stop criticisms.

Lord iam alway and will always be grateful to u, u are just my all suficient God....ebubedike ekene o

sunshineV:
Fine. ur mum womb will not seed good seed only tears and sorrow ijn ammmmeeeeeeennn!

lol...you mumu, i swear..

i told him he is under a curse, i nvr cursed him just the way you own mother is one too..

that's the reason i said your pathetic unmeasurable folly makes you think i insulted his mom..

Cowbell521:
You are STUPID

How shallow minded u are. Why insult a fellow who just gave his own opinion?

God I thank you o!

They thought I would not make it here today, but, You, my Father, put them to shame.



Thank you, Jesus. ❤

Henrydata:
my signature is still intact

Na him be say na punishment them they punish me specifically

ggirl4real:


Christians and emotions. Na we for una o...

You've made so many assumptions about me even when you don't know me.

I know you guys can go to any length to defend your beliefs but can't you guys really do that without insults?

Anyway, let me point out some of your errors:

(a) You talked about me being wretched in "higher wisdom". Whatever that means. The question I asked is based on the reality on ground. I'm a human not spirit so I view things from the realistic aspect. I think I have a right to do so. I'm not breaking any law in the Nigerian constitution.

(b) You assumed that I don't believe in a " supreme power". Did I tell you that?

(c) You said I serve a "tiny god". Please which one is that? Where does he live?

(d) Finally, I still maintain that if God is all-powerful, no christian should suffer, whether lazy or not. Be sincere, if your father is the richest in the universe, will you still have to suffer and strive?

Please, you can express your opinions but try to avoid insults but if you still feel that you have to throw insults to drive home your point, I'm sorry because I won't know how to reply you with insult and your insults won't make " unbelievers" to stop asking questions.

To be honest I love the way u express ur views in details without insult. Why can't we humans learn to express our selves without attaching emotions. Ur a gift to mankind, keep being ur self.

ggirl4real:


I'm not an atheist, afterall I can't prove that God does not exist.

At the same time, I can't believe that God exists when there is not prove.

I don't know what I am and that is not important.

What is important that all religions should be for the common good of all and the betterment of the society.

Relating this to my earlier post (which you quoted), God (the Christian God, in the case) should focus more on providing all the needs of Christians. It should be after all the Christians are blessed that other religions should even have a taste of His blessings.

If you want to be sincere Sir, you'll see that that's not the case. Many Christians are suffering just like other unbelievers. On the other hands, many unbelievers are living comfortably at the expense of Christians when it is the Christian God that is making all those provisions. It doesn't make sense to me Sir.

I understand you and how you think but I want you to know there is nothing like a Christian God or any other counterpart. There is only one God. Be it Islam, Christianity, Traditional, Buddhism, etc, we are all worshipping one God.

Now I want you to know that success and abundance is for all irrespective of religion or even as an athiest or freethinker.

Jesus died for all. But your redemption ( which happens after death) depends on whether you yield and believe he died for you. To this end, there is no segregation as to who gets blessed or not. All that ended when man lost the garden of Eden ( this a story for another day).

The segregation will start after death, when you have to go to where you deserve according to the account of how you spent your life time as a mortal man.

Call me 09066276692, if you need more explanation. I have being there. At a point in my life I really questioned if God ever existed and all that but today, I can prove 101% God is with us every second of the day. You just have to open up for him.

frank317:


Someone comes to ur shop and says he wants to buy bread and u quickly go and bring ceiling fan.

Someone is asking how we are sure it's God that we should thank for good things when everyone could have good things by doing what right, Good and bad things happen to everybody body bofh believers and non believers u are asking how water as large as ocean hangs in the sky, what has that got to do with anything?
If he accepts that it's God that hangs water in the sky how then can we prove that God should be thanked for good things that can happen to anybody?

I can show proof from the Bible which is God's word. There in psalms 24:1 it says to us that the whole universe is the Lord's. So everything we enjoy belongs to Him and He alone therefore should be thanked for making them available.

ggirl4real:


Why are many Christians still struggling and suffering while unbelievers are enjoying?

Some Christians even die while in the process of praying for a positive turn around in their situations. Why should that be so? Does God rejoice in their sufferings?

My Sister, this happen for many reasons:

Most Christians don't understand that there are hindrances to prayers, and that God's promises comes with conditions:

Isaiah 1:19-20
If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

James 4:3
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Jeremiah 29:11-13
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Proverbs 1:24-30
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord : They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.


Most Christians also base their expectations on worldly standards.

Some ignore the WWWWWH Concept: What? When?; Where?; Why? Who? How?

Deliverance not backed up with a life of Love and holiness attracts more problems:
Luke 11:24-26
When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

Christians Can Give Without Reward:
Matthew 6:1-4
Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Some Prayers Should Be In Secret:
Matthew 6:5-6
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are : for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But you, when thou pray, enter into your closet, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father which is in secret; and your Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Some Even Worship God In Vain:
Matthew 15:8-9
This people draw near unto me with their mouth, and honour me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Some confuse GIFTS of The Spirit with FRUITS of The Spirit.

There are so many reasons my sister.

- Peace.

Glory be to God! I really thank God!

CandidSeeker:


My Sister, this happen for many reasons:

Most Christians don't understand that there are hindrances to prayers, and that God's promises comes with conditions:

Isaiah 1:19-20
If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

James 4:3
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Jeremiah 29:11-13
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Proverbs 1:24-30
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord : They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.


Most Christians also base their expectations on worldly standards.

Some ignore the WWWWWH Concept: What? When?; Where?; Why? Who? How?

Deliverance not backed up with a life of Love and holiness attracts more problems:
Luke 11:24-26
When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

Christians Can Give Without Reward:
Matthew 6:1-4
Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Some Prayers Should Be In Secret:
Matthew 6:5-6
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are : for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But you, when thou pray, enter into your closet, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father which is in secret; and your Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Some Even Worship God In Vain:
Matthew 15:8-9
This people draw near unto me with their mouth, and honour me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Some confuse GIFTS of The Spirit with FRUITS of The Spirit.

There are so many reasons my sister.

- Peace.

This implies that all the Christians who are still suffering are either praying amiss, rebelling, seeking for selfish gains, etc as you listed?

What about those who are not even praying for these things but they have them in abundance?

ggirl4real:
I don't understand why we should thank God for all these things.

Aside from number 10 (which is just a mindset), how sure are we that it is "God" that make these things possible?

If He's the one, I think all atheists and free thinkers should be denied these things.

Since everyone has access to these things you've mentioned, I don't see why we should thank God for them.

As a matter of fact, I'm very sure that there are many Christians who are struggling to access these things. Some die in the process while some free thinkers are still enjoying full access. Whose fault is this?

God shines sun and showers rain to the whole world so why wouldn't He give other gifts to everyone?

His love is for everyone, His blessings and promises are not for all.

@Topic:

Sounds so much like our Sunday School today.

MarioKizito1:


I understand you and how you think but I want you to know there is nothing like a Christian God or any other counterpart. There is only one God. Be it Islam, Christianity, Traditional, Buddhism, etc, we are all worshipping one God.

Now I want you to know that success and abundance is for all irrespective of religion or even as an athiest or freethinker.

Jesus died for all. But your redemption ( which happens after death) depends on whether you yield and believe he died for you. To this end, there is no segregation as to who gets blessed or not. All that ended when man lost the garden of Eden ( this a story for another day).

The segregation will start after death, when you have to go to where you deserve according to the account of how you spent your life time as a mortal man.

Call me 09066276692, if you need more explanation. I have being there. At a point in my life I really questioned if God ever existed and all that but today, I can prove 101% God is with us every second of the day. You just have to open up for him.

I don't need to call you for explanations because you'll only be telling me what the Bible says.

Please if God answers your prayers, tell Him to reduce the sufferings in Nigeria, at least for Christian families. A loving God should not watch His beloved children suffer.

bukatyne:


God shines sun and showers rain to the whole world so why wouldn't He give other gifts to everyone?

His love is for everyone, His blessings and promises are not for all.

If you say so

But what about Christians that are struggling to survive despite their devotion to God and endless prayers? Is God happy to see them struggling?

oshikes:
To be honest I love the way u express ur views in details without insult. Why can't we humans learn to express our selves without attaching emotions. Ur a gift to mankind, keep being ur self.

Good afternoon Sir.

Thanks for the compliment.

I think it's just a way of defending their weaknesses. When one feels that he is loosing in an argument, there's than tendency to be emotional.

I'm only begging them to avoid insults for their own good: so that they won't miss the heaven they've been preparing for all these while, except the criteria has changed anyway.

ggirl4real:


That is what your Bible says.

However, I still feel that Christians should be God's priority. It should only be after the Christians have received all round blessings and are living comfortably before any unbeliever receives.

Why are many Christians still struggling and suffering while unbelievers are enjoying?

Some Christians even die while in the process of praying for a positive turn around in their situations. Why should that be so? Does God rejoice in their sufferings?

Contrary to whatever we are taught in Church, as long as we live in this earth, we will face challenges.

You lose some and win some. Christianity doesn't automatically immune you to ALL the problems of this life.

Again, this physical world has principles. If you do not follow the principle of wealth, you will not be rich. If you do not invest rightly in your marriage, you wouldn't have a good marriage. If you are not diligent at work, you will not grow. If you do not read your books, you will not pass etc.

If you follow the above principles as an unbeliever, you will reap the benefits bar exceptions.

You are however assured of eternal life if you abide in Christ till the end.

bukatyne:


Contrary to whatever we are taught in Church, as long as we live in this earth, we will face challenges.

You lose some and win some. Christianity doesn't automatically immune you to ALL the problems of this life.

Again, this physical world has principles. If you do not follow the principle of wealth, you will not be rich. If you do not invest rightly in your marriage, you wouldn't have a good marriage. If you are not diligent at work, you will not grow. If you do not read your books, you will not pass etc.

If you follow the above principles as an unbeliever, you will reap the benefits bar exceptions.

You are however assured of eternal life if you abide in Christ till the end.

Alright.

Miracle seeking Christians, you don hear? Go and hustle and stop sitting in one place praying and fasting for miracle money you didn't work for to be sent into your account.