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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:24pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
achorladey:JWs are clowns. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:27pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
haddeylium:Haddey, you downed my morale already. Typing long for someone who will still wait for His GB to admit the correction, is not healthy for my fingers. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:29pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: You're only seeing and processing with your brain what you wanted to see Get the definition of Angels right first and you'll know peace. Would they become pure messengers (Angels)?... Yes! Whatever. You wouldn't want to be selfish with this truth you found right? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:33pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: 3years ... Torhh I've accepted Jesus as my Lord and personal savior. Can I atleast be congregating with Jehovah's witnesses? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:34pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
achorladey:JWs fear Ex-JW ehn! No wonder Max quickly put up a retreat notice board when he realized that there were ex JW here. 2 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:34pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: I don't need your essay since you don't want salvation for me |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:39pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
haddeylium:Nice strawman. Little boy wants to shift goal post to arguing over the meaning of "angel". I wasn't born this morning. Fact: Your brother max attested to the fact that they will become angelic creatures just like Gabriel, you denied and said - they will only be like Angels. One line of thought my foot. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:40pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
Jozzy4:exposing your deluded self all over the thread already. Paul said the body was sown a natural body and raised a spiritual one, it was the same body that was sown that is raised. Go and learn what a soulish body is Is it so hard to reply which body the rich man had in hell ? To validate your claim that mark 9:43,44 is a reference to ressurection body.where did you see the rich man in mark 9:43,44. Jesus was talking of Ghenna in mark 9vv43,44 but you are talking of sheol of luke 16 Ressurection body is not corruptible.You are ready to lose your soul in defending lies. So a body that is eaten by worms is an incorruptible body? Shame |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:40pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
haddeylium:The essay is not essential for now, understanding "salvation" is. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:46pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: When I said your understanding is poor; I wasn't insulting If Angel Gabriel or whatever holds the position of a pure messenger (Angel). Then, the resurrected ones will be like him. Grab yourself a copy of English premier |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:47pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Ok. Practice it and carry it to the next church you're visiting |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:48pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
haddeylium:Rest abeg, you are losing value already. See the trash you are spewing. Throwing webs all around to make ends meet. You are trying too hard. ONE LINE OF THOUGHT MY FOOT! 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:51pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
haddeylium:I hope you live to see what a true Ekklesia headed by Christ looks like. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 10:53pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
haddeylium: You even have time to correct these people. There's nothing you're going to tell them that will be correct in their eyes that's for sure. Daniel 7:13-14 made us understand that “somebody like the son of man” was given a Kingdom, rulership and honour. Clearly, this is referring to Jesus Christ. And there are several scriptures in the NT where Jesus called himself the “Son of man” (Matthew 9:6, 17:22, 20:28) who was given authority and honour(Matthew 28:18, Philippians 2:9-11) and also given a throne to rule as King in God's Kingdom.(Luke 1:31-33) So ask them how the “somebody like the son of man” in Daniel 7:13 is different from Jesus Christ who is the “Son of Man” That's what their fruitless arguments are based on—play of words and debating over semantics. That's why I try my best to rise above all of that. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:54pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:I read anguish behind these words Now, that Bible is not your problem but the English Jws offer Bible study in many languages.. what's your primary language? ONE LINE OF THOUGHT MY FOOT! if it's a pain that this God's people are speaking in agreement. I don't know how I can help you |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 10:58pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
haddeylium:That's just what's giving them sleepless nights. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 11:02pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
DappaD: He thinks he's in discussion with all these random churchgoers it's so hilarious that he mistaken US "avoiding fruitless argument" to HIM making useless points 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 11:05pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Good! Goan practice that Ekklesia in the next church you're visiting |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 11:11pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
DappaD: what to do now? Apostle Paul under inspiration said that's the identifying mark of true christainity They can only observe this in Jehovah's organization . Like someone knowing something is right but doesn't want to succumb to it. He would rather bring it down to lighten his spirit |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 11:49pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
haddeylium: That's why we keep telling them that if they happened to be living in the first century in Palestine and were contemporaries of Jesus and his disciples, they would exhibit the same kind of behaviour. Because if we're looking at it from surface, who would want to associate with a group whose leader was executed like a common criminal? Or considering the whole Judas Iscariot saga when he betrayed Jesus and later committed suicide—who upon hearing all these would be keen as to join Jesus' group if one doesn't examine all the facts and realise that it was the only group approved by God? These people think because their fake, watered-down version of “Christianity” is rampart and accepted, then that has to be the truth meanwhile the Christianity practised by those early Christians is completely different from the way churches operate now. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:06am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Both JWs understand themselves very well... English is not their mother tongue, Dem go write am as dem sabi even if it falls short of the perfect English of Professor Blabbermouth & him Crew. Pope welcomes them Lez/Gs into his Church, ok nau, tell that to your spirit filled friend on this thread, Bros W 1 Corinthians 6:9-10,Would Jesus Christ welcome them into his kingdom? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:21am On Nov 02, 2020 |
rottennaija: Bros, you know how British & Irish Christians were united at cutting each other's throats You know how your fellow 'Christians of your Triune Lord' on both sides of the River Niger were united with one aim & purpose on the battlefields of the South East over a 30 month period. Continue to DECEIVE yourselves |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:36am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Columnists Jehovah’s Witnesses: What law-abiding citizens! By Luke Onyekakeyah 10 July 2018 | 4:04 am (The Guardian Newspaper) News about this year’s convention of the Jehovah’s Witnesses rekindled my personal encounter with this group of Christians who are largely ridiculed by other Christian denominations because of their distinct beliefs and conduct from mainstream Christianity. The beliefs, it must be clarified, didn’t emanate from outside what is written in the Holy Bible but its interpretation. The Word of God is so deep that one needs the Holy Spirit to fathom it. Only the Holy Spirit can reveal the meanings of the Word. Let me talk about the convention. The 2018 convention is billed to run from Friday August 3, to Sunday, December 23 in 34 locations across Nigeria, with the theme, “Be Courageous.” In the Lagos-Ogun area, the convention will begin from August 31 at the Assembly Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses along Idiroko Road, Ota; Daluwon along Mowe-Ofada Road; Lekki at Ajibona Village; and Badagry, at 5, Assembly Road, Itoga, opposite Limca bus stop.” According to the spokesman of Jehovah’s Witnesses, George Ijeh, the convention will help attendees to face the daunting challenges individuals, families and the society at large face today with God-given courage. He said you can clearly see that people of all ages are dealing with more anxieties and fears than ever before. It takes courage to face these pressures. He explained that the three-day programme consists of 54 presentations, including talks, audio dramas, interviews and short videos. No doubt, the theme of the convention is apt for the hard times Nigerians are facing. Suicides are commonplace. One needs courage and endurance to hang on. x My encounter with members of Jehovah’s Witness in far away Japan in 1987 made a lasting impression on me. I was invited to Japan by a university to participate in a scientific conference where I was to present a commissioned research project I did for them on acid rain in Nigeria’s Niger Delta. It was a very exciting trip flying for hours to the Far East. Everything went fine. The Japanese are very friendly with visitors. You are challenged to try some exotic delicacies that form their daily menu. As a practice, anywhere I travelled, the first thing I would ask in my hotel is where the nearest church is located where I can worship. That was the question I ask at my hotel and they directed me to a nearby Roman Catholic Church. With the map given to me, I was able to reach the parish house. I went in and saw a man whom I told that I would like to see the parish priest. He said the priest was having siesta but that he could call another priest from town for me. Immediately, he called a priest, who happened to be a Belgian priest. Within minutes, he drove in and met me in the visitor’s sitting room. I introduced myself and told him my mission in Japan and asked if I could be assisted to stay for a while after my assignment with the university. He said no that I should return back to Nigeria as soon as I finished my assignment. He gave me a ride back to my hotel and left. Back to the hotel, I phoned a pastor of the Baptist Mission in Tokyo, a woman, who gave me invitation prior to my departure to visit them while in Japan. She said I could come and stay in their guest house. When I finished with the university, I informed her and she agreed to wait for me at a train station. I met her at the station on arrival. The first question she asked me was whether I have enough money to take care of myself. I said yes, because I was “loaded” having been paid enough money by the university. My intention was to have some time to look around the beautiful city. She took me to the guest house where I lodged. The following Sunday, she came and picked me and we went to their Baptist church service. The people were excited to see me – the only black man in the congregation. After the church service, the pastors had a brief chat with me and advised me to return to Nigeria as soon as possible. I left the guest house and went for a live-in with a family I contacted who have lived in Kenya and know Africa. They welcomed me well and treated me so nicely.One day, I was alone in the compound and behold two members of Jehovah’s Witnesses on evangelism were passing by. They saw me and came in to talk with me. Having been used to reading the Awake magazine and discussing the Bible with Witnesses in Nigeria, I welcomed the duo as we sat down to talk the Bible. I brought out my Bible as we discussed. We talked for a short while and they got to know who I am and my mission. The Witnesses were so friendly. They encouraged me and assured me of their support. The point is that, out of the three Christians I encountered – the priest, pastor and Witnesses, it was the Witnesses that received me and showed me true love. That registered in my psyche." x [/b] |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:40am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Shebi Kumuyi & Olukoya you dey condemn no born again & spirit filled like you? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 1:13am On Nov 02, 2020 |
achorladey: @1. Is Matthew 24:45-47, Hebrews 13:17 and 1 Peter 5:5 still dey your Bible? In 2020,is Jesus Christ still doing what Achorladey (A.K.A '$nake....') said in 2017 ? @2.. Achorladey Deceptive misrepresentation Quote the entire content of that Watchtower here. No disciples perfect,pls continue Wailing . @3 John 11:26. John8:51 King James 2000 Bible And whosoever lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?" "Verily , verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death." JWs repeated the words of Jesus Christ. Why e dey cause you sifia pains, Mr Wailer ? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 1:58am On Nov 02, 2020 |
livingchrist: Shame on yourself, LYING that "when Angels transform into human form they are not flesh and bones " Bros,you dull |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 2:01am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ:Shuooooo !! Wetin concern Perdition & everlasting torture? Ken, you have shot down your hellfire FRAUD. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 2:06am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Hebrews 13:17 and 1 Peter 5:5, Bros are you more inspired than Paul and Peter ? Or you mean they don't know what they wrote? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 2:16am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: What's special about ex JW denying Jesus Christ @ John 3:16 ? In 2017, according to Archoladey those who disagree with Jesus Christ were LIARS until 2019 |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 2:19am On Nov 02, 2020 |
DappaD: My Brother, good morning. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 2:22am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Janosky: A good morning to you, my dear brother. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by rottennaija(m): 6:01am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Janosky: Yes. It was the same thing when watchtower was allowing JWs bribe and buy military cards in Mexico while forbidding JWs from registering and getting a party card in Malawi which was a one party state. The result was that while JWs in Mexico were allowed to bribe their way out of punishment and harms way, JWs in Malawi were being killed, maim, raped so watchtower can have martyrs to brag about. If only the JWs in Malawi knew their suffering was because of the Watchtower double standards and that they were raped, maim, killed for nothing. 1 Like 1 Share |
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