✓ People are been killed illegally;
✓ People are being killed extrajudicially;
✓ People are being extorted on false charges;
✓ People are being kidnapped illegally and forced to pay money for their freedom or otherwise they will be setup and framed for crimes they know nothing about;
✓ People are being stereotyped and falsely accused and oppressed;
✓ People are being harassed and assaulted, some have been left with permanent disabilities, some with unthinkable trauma by an organ of police that have gone rogue, gone dark and completely betray their oath of duty which is to serve and protect the public.......etc

and then the society wants to protest peacefully and are protesting peacefully to demand for their rights, to demand for justice, to demand for an end to illegal oppression, to demand for change, to express their displeasure to the authorities etc, and then you as a Believer (or claiming to be a Believer) are saying it's none of your business, you operate under another system, you function by heavenly government, or you do your own protests by prayers etc.....these are some of the dumbest excuses ever! It shows your level of faith, it shows you don't know the One with Whom You Have To do the way you ought to know, it shows you're a baby. And I have to make this post to let the public know that not all Believers hold these childish views or perspectives. I'm a Believer and I will join peaceful protests whenever possible and will always support peaceful protests whenever it is required. May God bless all the End Sars peaceful protesters, and it is in record in Heaven that you spoke out and spoke up against injustice to your fellow human beings. God will surely reward you for good. He is a God of Justice! And He is a God that blesses those that support and fight against injustice.

As long as he is a human being, YES.
Were you expecting to see the word "Placard" in the Bible before you take a stand?

Elijah protested by stopping rain for 3 years through prayer, to tell the King that there is a God who is powerful.

Daniel protested by praying when constituted authorities say he should not.

Shedrach, Meshach and Abednego protested by not bowing down to King Nebs statue.

Jesus's disciples protested by still preaching when the rulers then asked them not to.

Anywhere you see injustice, fight it the best way you can, you must not carry placard.
It is not a christian or religion thing, it is a human being thing.

Africans self ehn, before they ask for their rights they have to turn to their religions, imported and locally made, tueh. A lot of Africans are real sub humans.

DappaD:

I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

According to the Bible, the reason why the world is in distress is because it's being controlled by powerful & evil unseen forces headed by Satan the Devil and a host of other demons. (Ephesians 6:12, 1John 5:19, Revelation 12:9-12)j

The Bible also reveals that by means of a heavenly Kingdom or government, all human governments and organizations will be brought to their knees and destroyed forever. (Compare Daniel 2:44 with Revelation 16:14-16, 17:12-14, 19:19-21)

Imagine you're on a sinking ship and the only option you have is a lifeboat, would you remain in the ship trying to repair damages or leave immediately?
That's the same in this case—trying to protest for changes or amends to be made is just a fruitless exercise since they're all going to be destroyed anyway.

That's why Jesus stressed the need to remain neutral concerning worldly affairs.
His true disciples were to be “no part of the world”—John 17:14,16
Because he himself knew it's all futile since a better Kingdom or government which is not of human source was coming. (John 18:36)

The best thing true Christians can do for themselves is offer prayers to God concerning the ruling governments so that they can continue their worship to God peacefully—and not for any changes to be made.(Acts 4:23-30, 1Timothy 2:1-2)

The real question is how many of those claiming to be Christians today follow this Biblical advice?
Those telling you it's okay to protest don't have any regard for the words of Jesus Christ himself—as they will only choose Scriptures that soothe their own agenda. (2Peter 3:16-17)

You're a horrible person and bad things should happen to you

AududuNine11:


I do not totally disagree with your well thought submission. But I must say, the "long walk to protest against massive killing in Nigeria" has no impact or whatsoever to the stopping of killing or what will be.

Persecution of the believers is one of the prophecy foretold of our Lord Jesus.

All these uproar, killings, uprising, violence and chaos guys we not only in naija bit all around the world only tells us one thing, "RAPTURE is imminent".

So because it's part of the prophesy, does that mean you will sit down and let the killings slide? If your family was killed in this Fulani herdsmen rampage, would you have said same thing?

Can you imagine? I weep for you

Imagine someone saying that a Believer's way is ONLY prayer. Ok ! So why are you working to earn money and pay your bills? Why do you go to the market to buy food? Why do you cook what you eat.......etc? Why not sit somewhere and just pray for money so that money from heaven will just be entering into your account or wallet. Why not just sit somewhere and don't do your job or do any work and just pray and then the work will do itself....... Mtchwwwwwww! Even the Bible says Faith without works is dead. You cannot pray injustice away, you cannot pray oppression away, you cannot pray bad governance away, you cannot pray a good government into power. You have to act too, you have to physically participate in the process of change. Is it angels that will come and rig votes? Is it angels that will join political parties and contest for you? You see this faulty mentality of aloofness, this nonchalant attitude towards nation building, this mentality of its not our business, is exactly why the evil elements has taken over our societies, and then you continue to pray endless unnecessary prayers, unnecessary because if you had done the things you were supposed to do, you won't be needing those prayers. Continue shouting HolyGhost fire and cover your children with blood of Jesus 24/7 and ignore participating in the process that shapes society and let's see whether you won't fall victims of your own ignorance. Truly this is why He said my people perish for lack of knowledge.

Tochj:
You don't know that Jesus protested The evils done by Religious And political leaders of his time. How?
The used whips to pursue and upturn the tables of money changers in the temple.
2.We called out Herod by calling him a Fox
3.Many times he confronted the Pharisees and saducces.
All these can be called a protest.

violently or with wisdom.. Even Peter try protest wen dem con carry Jesus

freeborn02:


The scriptures also said that "I am everything to everyone that I may win some" 1 Corinthians 9:22

You win "who" by matching up the streets to "protest"?

Most of you have not even taken bold step to declare your stand as a believer let alone preach Christ to the lost.

You cannot use religion as a cover for silently doing nothing against societal evil. Jesus Christ persistently called out the evildoers of his day and at one time, had to violently drive out the money changers from the church with a whip, and overturned their tables physically.

The kingdom of God suffers violence and only the violent can take back what is theirs by force!

weyreypey:

You say nonsense. You people are selective pacifists

"Pacifism" according to Google is a belief that all disputes should be settled by peaceful dialogues.

On the contrary, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that all disputes will be settled by God's Kingdom (government) in the hands of God's Son Jesus Christ. And Jesus will accomplish that by meeting the entire world's governments in a fearsome "WAR of the great day of God the Almighty" prophesied by both prophet Daniel and the Apostle John (Daniel 2:44; Revelation 16:14,16)

So get your facts right. Visit jw.org for more information

ezenwajosh:


Some of them go to church, take holy communions, share flyers for their church crusade

..

Sleeping in a garage does not make you a car.

Attending church, taking communions and participating in church activities only make you religious. It doesn't make you a genuine born again. It doesn't guarantee you salvation.

AkinwaleJJ:


I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

We will never do such a thing because the Master taught us to all those in authority to take their chances in whatever they feel like doing since we know that their government is not our government! Matt 5:39-42
Whatever they're doing there is none of our business since our own government is not from this source! John 18:36
People voted them in so it's the duty of those who voted them to protest against them perhaps those elected aren't performing as they promised the voters. But for us who never has any hand in all their arrangement, ours is to leave their premises for them if they will not allow us worship our God in peace! Matt 10:23
We are not part of the world! John 17:14-16

or simply put....
u aren't a human being....

since ure not of dis world...Why u pay tax?
why are u working?
infact why are you eating food of this World?

Can't u see your hypocrisy

Not of this World john was talking abt is spiritual not physical...

ezenwajosh:


I tell you....can't have my kids shouting Jesus at every small thing in their life, don't need them praying for solution than thinking one for themselves, don't need them on their kneels rather than standing tall on their feet.

Won't have my daughter marry and years later if the husband is beating her up or maltreating her....instead of quitting her marriage.... She will go praying for the foolish husband from one pastor to another.

I was raised in religious family and ever since my childhood I never find it comfortable

In the end, it would not matter whatever you have gained in this world, or what amount of wealth you have left for your children.

It would not matter what your children have achieved.

What would matter and count in the end is: YOUR SALVATION IN JESUS CHRIST.

You would only weep terribly when you cross over to the great beyond only to discover you have chased after shadows and make paramount the ephemeral things while refusing to follow after God and accepting Christ as your Lord and Saviour.

The brutality you see being perpetrated by SARS today is but just a child's play compared to what will happen during the Greta Tribulation here in earth after the Church has been raptured.

SegFault:
Wetin concern pacifism concern protests, pacifists protest, they are simply against war.

Pacifism is opposition to war, militarism or violence.

The word pacifism was coined by the French peace campaigner Émile Arnaud (1864–1921) and adopted by other peace activists at the tenth Universal Peace Congress in Glasgow in 1901.

A related term is ahimsa (i.e. to do no harm), which is a core philosophy in Indian Religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

In modern times, interest was revived by Leo Tolstoy in his late works, particularly in The Kingdom of God Is Within You. Mahatma Gandhi (1869–1948) propounded the practice of steadfast nonviolent opposition which he called "satyagraha", instrumental in its role in the Indian Independence Movement. Its effectiveness served as inspiration to Martin Luther King Jr., James Lawson, Mary and Charles Beard, James Bevel, Thich Nhat Hanh and many others in the civil rights movement.

Pacifism covers a spectrum of views, there is anarchist or libertarian pacifism, case in point, the nonviolent protest of fictional Hegetorides of Thasos.

be led by the spirit. Did the Holy Spirit whisper that u should go and protest? Is that your calling as a Christian? Did u ever ead where the apostles protested despite the ill treatments from the rulers? be guided by the Holy Spirit. Imagine a Christian being shot during a protest what account will he give to God that he was fighting a just battle for souls to be save or what? Have the mind of Christ. Shalom

Openbusiness:
When it comes to scriptures, don't just know the letters, know the spirit in the letter. You're quoting a scripture that references about Jesus yielding himself as a sacrificial lamb for the sins of the world. How does this relate to a Believer not participating in peaceful protests? You still haven't answered. Jesus committed himself to Him that judges righteously = Jesus didn't retaliate when he was attacked by those who condemned him to die, a LEGAL condemnation (even though it was by a conspiracy and frame up) because he faced a trial and was declared guilty by law. How does this relate to peaceful protests? Are you saying the willing sufferings of Jesus at the hands of his oppressors means that we shouldn't protests? Are we the sacrificial lamb that the Bible says was set apart and slain from the foundation of the world for this very purpose to suffer and die for the sins of humanity? Study to show yourself approved. Don't just quote scriptures, you need to understand the Spirit of those letters.

SegFault:

Christians commit atrocities too, I don't know why you guys can't realise that most over religious countries are naturally backward.

Christians are those who have genuinely repented of all their sins, washed by the Blood of the Lamb, and are committed to living to the dictates of God's Word.

Going to Church doesn't make one a Christian
Bearing a Christian name doesn't make one a Christian.
Engaging in Church activities does make one a Christian.

As you can see, we have so many acclaimed "Christians" on this thread railing insults on me these ones are nominal Christians.

Come and accept Christ genuinely and know what it really means to be a Christian, or remain adamant and recalcitrant, thereby spurning the Love that God has offered to all mankind by giving His Son to die for us all.

If you reject His love now, here on earth, be sure that in that great judgement day, what you'd see is a fiercely looking judge who will judge all men according to their works, whether good or bad, and all those who refused His love will have their part in the lake of fire which never quenches.

TsaTrinity:

So because it's part of the prophesy, does that mean you will sit down and let the killings slide? If your family was killed in this Fulani herdsmen rampage, would you have said same thing?

Can you imagine? I weep for you

You can read that post again if you didn't get the point.

Don't weep for me. Weep for the lost.

HeavenlyHolines:
be led by the spirit. Did the Holy Spirit whisper that u should go and protest? Is that your calling as a Christian? Did u ever ead where the apostles protested despite the ill treatments from the rulers? be guided by the Holy Spirit. Imagine a Christian being shot during a protest what account will he give to God that he was fighting a just battle for souls to be save or what? Have the mind of Christ. Shalom

A Christian who abandoned the great commission or have never ever attempted to fulfill the great commission given by our dear Lord and Saviour, only sees himself being led by the "Spirit" to match the streets protesting... How hilarious...

Oh no! This is dumb!

If speaking out against evil in society and against evil systems is called protest, it is in order-- for a Christian.

The council of administration during Christ time was Rome, but Rome in its magnanimity, did not directly rule the nation. They allowed the nations to be ruled by indigenous rulers who ruled according to their beliefs, but with full assurance that law and order as well as taxation and loyalty was maintained.

Even Rome respected the rights of the Jews (at Christ time) to be yet ruled (in everyday basic matters) by their cultures and tradition in other words mostly as dictated to them via the laws of Moses.

However, to show the rot in the system, those who Rome gave the privilege to handle basic matters of state administration abused the privileges. These governing councils which was the Sanhedrin (which were made up of the Pharisees and Sadducees, Priests and the likes) turned out to do more harm than good.

If you read,Matthew 23, you see Christ PUBLICLY denouncing them with CURSES! Yes! Jesus Christ cursed them for their hypocrisy, their twisting sacred laws to suit their interests, their burdens on the people and the abuse of their privileges.

We should always learn to allow wisdom prevail. There is the time to be silent. There is the time to speak up.

That an agency which is funded by the citizens via their taxes, have turned into killers, IS CONDEMNABLE in all aspects. And should be resisted.

SegFault:
Christians commit atrocities too, I don't know why you guys can't realise that most over religious countries are naturally backward.

AududuNine11:
Christians are those who have genuinely repented of all their sins, washed by the Blood of the Lamb, and are committed to living to the dictates of God's Word.

Going to Church doesn't make one a Christian
Bearing a Christian name doesn't make one a Christian.
Engaging in Church activities does make one a Christian.

As you can see, we have so many acclaimed "Christians" on this thread railing insults on me these ones are nominal Christians.

Come and accept Christ genuinely and know what it really means to be a Christian, or remain adamant and recalcitrant, thereby spurning the Love that God has offered to all mankind by giving His Son to die for us all.

If you reject His love now, here on earth, be sure that in that great judgement day, what you'd see is a fiercely looking judge who will judge all men according to their works, whether good or bad, and all those who refused His love will have their part in the lake of fire which never quenches.

"²⁷King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know that you do believe.”
²⁸Then Agrippa said to Paul, “You almost persuade me to become a Christian.”
²⁹And Paul said, “I would to God that not only you,
but also all who hear me today, might become both almost and altogether such as I am, except for these chains.”"
- Acts 26:27-29

Not once did Peter, Paul, James, John, nor any of the other disciples of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ ever saluted, greeted, addressed themselves as or called each other Christian(s) (i.e. "Christianos'')

AududuNine11, doesnt it sound strange, to you, that none of the Apostles, ever called each other christian. Watch how Apostle Paul, as seen in Acts 26:27-28 above, had a golden opportunity and chance, in front of king Agrippa, to boldly admit that he is a kofam, bonafide and real McCoy true born Christian, but he baulked. He was unwilling to be called a Christian and right there in Acts 26:29, never allowed the Christian epithet word, roll off his tongue to confirm and describe with his mouth, who he has become.

It is was the world, who gave the early believers, the nickname, Christian. It was the people of Antioch, well known and famous for inventing nicknames who were the force behind profaning the name of Christ, which incidentally is Genesis 4:26b revisited. Constantine only came to perfect that which the people of Antioch invented and which he successfully according to his game plan, has you hooked on and hoodwinked with, lmso

I keep saying that, I cant ever get tired of typing, that, there'd be less christians, if only more christians like you, properly and 2 Timothy 2:15 styling, read their bibles.

You deserve whatsoever railing insult that comes your way, and that's because of your ITK ignorance, quasi biblical knowledge, shallow theology, conceited full of yourself and condescending remark(s)

I know the content in this post, everything I've typed in this post, just went swoosh, right over your head, as if like, its a couple of Naija Airforce MiG fighter jets flying by low and past overhead, lmso

AududuNine11:


Christians are those who have genuinely repented of all their sins, washed by the Blood of the Lamb, and are committed to living to the dictates of God's Word.

Going to Church doesn't make one a Christian
Bearing a Christian name doesn't make one a Christian.
Engaging in Church activities does make one a Christian.

As you can see, we have so many acclaimed "Christians" on this thread railing insults on me these ones are nominal Christians.

Come and accept Christ genuinely and know what it really means to be a Christian, or remain adamant and recalcitrant, thereby spurning the Love that God has offered to all mankind by giving His Son to die for us all.

If you reject His love now, here on earth, be sure that in that great judgement day, what you'd see is a fiercely looking judge who will judge all men according to their works, whether good or bad, and all those who refused His love will have their part in the lake of fire which never quenches.

There are over 5000 religions show me what makes you think you are right.

For Christians who think they are not called to speak out.

Yes, open your mouth, speak up for the poor and helpless, and see that they get justice. Proverbs 31:19

AkinwaleJJ:


I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

We will never do such a thing because the Master taught us to all those in authority to take their chances in whatever they feel like doing since we know that their government is not our government! Matt 5:39-42
Whatever they're doing there is none of our business since our own government is not from this source! John 18:36
People voted them in so it's the duty of those who voted them to protest against them perhaps those elected aren't performing as they promised the voters. But for us who never has any hand in all their arrangement, ours is to leave their premises for them if they will not allow us worship our God in peace! Matt 10:23
We are not part of the world! John 17:14-16

I guess if Abraham the patriarch was a member of your church or congregation,he wouldn't have rescued lot his nephew because his kingdom is not of this world.
The heroes of faith are mostly rugged and militant.
The servant mentality of the Jehovah witnesses will never let them inherit the Earth.
Servants don't rule, Kings and soldiers do.

AududuNine11:
Should a believer join any PROTEST, DEMONSTRATE, CARRY PLACARDS?

Here's my view as a believer regarding PROTEST/DEMONSTRATION - peaceful or not peaceful, SARS related or not:

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
1 Corinthians 10:23 KJV

Protest starts from the womb, a child starts protesting as soon as its time for them to step into the earth or else he or she will die, for the baby to survive he or she will fight till her mother will have no option than to open her holy sanctuary to even a mad man or woman called a midwife to help them save herself and the protesting baby.
Secondly, Rev Dr Martin Luther King Jr was a Reverend that led the civil rights movement (Protest)
Jesus Christ also chased out does trading in the temple in (protest).

HeavenlyHolines:
be led by the spirit. Did the Holy Spirit whisper that u should go and protest? Is that your calling as a Christian? Did u ever ead where the apostles protested despite the ill treatments from the rulers? be guided by the Holy Spirit. Imagine a Christian being shot during a protest what account will he give to God that he was fighting a just battle for souls to be save or what? Have the mind of Christ. Shalom

I can ask you the same: Did the Holy Spirit whisper to you that you should tell Believers not to participate in peaceful protests? And you cannot equate persecution of faith with societal or social oppression. These concepts function different and are not the same, even scripturally. I would have answered your post fully, but it will push me to writing a lot of things and I'm not in the mood for that right now, so I will leave you. But I know I have said more than enough on this thread.

YES
A Christian should not only engage in protest; a Christian should lead a protest.
Bible student should know that from Abraham till this present day Israel, Israelites are trained for war.

Christianity is a FORCE and not the ‘religion’ that is practiced in Nigeria.

For those that will ask for quotations from scriptures even in the days of Jesus, Peter and other body guards goes with sword.

Your question will now be should we go around with sword? * you should be prepared to go with one.. it’s not going to be long.


* everyone is hungry in a ‘fraud nation called nation are Christians exempted from hunger ? No!

* what %tage of graduate are employed or employable? Are Christian excepted? No!

* none is safe; if you escaped kidnappers you ended up with SARS. Are Christian exempted? No!

* When the real war starts none will escape! Christianity is not this bless me bless me that people carry about is about taking responsibility... you need to fight for your nation ! Fight!

My brother i tire oo. That is our greatest business oo. Go and preach d gospel. Anything that won't bring God's glory, don't engage in it. The people u r protesting with, many are not Christians and if u think they will make it peaceful, na lie.

AududuNine11:



A Christian who abandoned the great commission or have never ever attempted to fulfill the great commission given by our dear Lord and Saviour, only sees himself being led by the "Spirit" to match the streets protesting... How hilarious...

SegFault:
Christians commit atrocities too, I don't know why you guys can't realise that most over religious countries are naturally backward.

I concur entirely and without demur, which is why I liked this post, lmso

AududuNine11:
Christians are those who have genuinely repented of all their sins, washed by the Blood of the Lamb, and are committed to living to the dictates of God's Word.

Going to Church doesn't make one a Christian
Bearing a Christian name doesn't make one a Christian.
Engaging in Church activities does make one a Christian.

As you can see, we have so many acclaimed "Christians" on this thread railing insults on me these ones are nominal Christians.

Come and accept Christ genuinely and know what it really means to be a Christian, or remain adamant and recalcitrant, thereby spurning the Love that God has offered to all mankind by giving His Son to die for us all.

If you reject His love now, here on earth, be sure that in that great judgement day, what you'd see is a fiercely looking judge who will judge all men according to their works, whether good or bad, and all those who refused His love will have their part in the lake of fire which never quenches.

SegFault:
There are over 5000 religions show me what makes you think you are right.

The one religion, that you ought to know is right, not even think, because the qualifier is know, and not think, is the religion that is pure, that is true, one that has no flaw, and is a religion such that God accepts it, to be faultless, lmso. Go figure.

MuttleyLaff:
I concur entirely and without demur, which is why I liked this post, lmso



The one religion, that you ought to know is right, not even think, because the qualifier is know, and not think, is the religion that is pure, that is true and one that has no flaw, such that God will find no fault with

number one, using God is a fallacy in this argument because this is a secular argument which includes several religions and by using that statement you block other religions out, number two how do you know the one that is pure?

SegFault:
number one, using God is a fallacy in this argument because this is a secular argument which includes several religions and by using that statement you block other religions out ...

"Atheism is a religion but I don't believe in it

Religion takes different shape and form, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera.
For some, sports, like football or hockey is a religion.
For others some, fashion too is a religion

Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, New Age, Scientology, Paganism, TAF etcetera too are religions
however there is only one true and pure religion, that is faultless. So let's call a spade, a spade"
- by MuttleyLaff: 4:23pm On Dec 24, 2018

"Football is a religion, ice hockey is a religion, fashion for some is a religion and atheism too funnily enough too is a religion. The word religion, just like the word mouse, has over the passage of time changed from what it originally meant from what your dictionary says it is"
- by MuttleyLaff: 1:00am On Jan 01

"It is organised religion(s), like for example, Christianity, that is called the opium of the people, and not empathy and/or compassion, that is pure, true and without faults Ranchh.oddas

....Religion takes different shapes and forms, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera, and so football is a religion, ice hockey is a religion, fashion, for some, is a religion and atheism too funnily enough, as well, is a religion but nobody, not even you Ranch.hoddas, can find a fault in empathy and/or with compassion"
- by MuttleyLaff: 12:15am On Jan 14

Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away. I dont understand your aversion to a mention of the word God here. Fyi, I am not having an argument here, maybe its you arguing with yourself over points I've laid down on the ground, lmso, besides the OP, AududuNine11, opened this thread and raised the question in relation to and connected with religious or spiritual matters and not to be confined to secularity

Take for granted, that we all accept and agree that religion takes different shapes and forms, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera. Case in point, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, New Age, Scientology, Paganism, TAR, etcetera actually are religions. Also, for some, sports, like football or hockey is a religion. For some others, fashion is a religion. Atheism too, funnily enough, as well, as I earlier intimated, is a religion however I reiterate, there is only one true and pure religion, that is faultless, and if you know, you know. Who no know, no go know, and it is a right outright shame they dont know what it is. Smh sigh

SegFault:
... number two, how do you know the one that is pure?

Now are you admitting that you dont know how to know the one that is pure and true religion ni, hmm?

Ask yourself this question, who are the templer knights.