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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by hardeymijuh: 6:42pm On Aug 08, 2013
hardeymijuh: @ All,

Has anyone checked on flight fees to EL Paso & Phoenix for Nov/Dec? abi na my system?

Last week, i checked for both El Paso and Phoenix and the fees were $2000+, i just checked now and am seeing $1500+.

Anyway i was expecting that as those periods are already getting to winter and less people travel to the US during that periods.

I no go mind if this price go still go down, trust naija na........

@seems it's my system ooooo...na Mirage price i dey seee sad sad sad
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by bamakoe(f): 7:17pm On Aug 08, 2013
[quote author=hardeymijuh]

@Bamboke,
Thanks. You are really right about it. The person may be a family member, a friend, colleague, or even your BOSS.... grin cheesy smiley

Hmmm. You're not far from the truth either wink
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by ringofGod: 9:36pm On Aug 08, 2013
Lol...pls don't fight ladies...but no one has answered me about vaccines/immunization given to your baby. Anybody
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by fabulousmom: 10:12pm On Aug 08, 2013
ringofGod: Lol...pls don't fight ladies...but no one has answered me about vaccines/immunization given to your baby. Anybody

@ringofGod,

So sorry about the omission. My baby was given Hepatitis B vaccine at the time of birth. That was the only vaccine he received before I left the US after 1 month and 2 weeks of his birth. The next vaccine was due in his second month, but the immunization system in nigeria is different. In Nigeria,I think the vaccines due at birth are: OPV0 and Hepatitis B.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by hardeymijuh: 7:40pm On Aug 09, 2013
[size=14pt]Happy Sallah to everyone.....[/size]
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Love300: 7:50pm On Aug 09, 2013
Got my baby USA passport with no social security number too........ Just filled 0000 on the SN section.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by afrokimmy(f): 10:43pm On Aug 09, 2013
afrokimmy:



Reminder please.
Any recommendation for hospitals in New York or New Jersey?


Plz can someone respond??
Any recommendation for hospitals in New York or New Jersey
And estimated cost of delivery in either of these locations??
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Babababy(m): 10:45pm On Aug 09, 2013
Hello everyone , been following the trend for a while and just decided to join today. Great contributions from everyone, am not sure even google could have done a more better job in letting people understand the process of having a baby in America. Well done guys. My wife is due in November and we plan on traveling next month. I have been traveling to the states for the past 5 years of my life on business while my wife has been to the uk but its her first time in the states. She declared her pregnancy at the embassy ,and she was asked if she would be seeking medical aid and she said no,as we intend to pay all our bills . I have a 2 year multiple entry and she and my little boy have a 3 month b1/b2. City of choice is New York because that's where we have family, as I will be leaving them after taking them their. As time goes by, I would be sharing all our experiences with you guys. New York is quite expensive, but we are trying to maximize our resources .
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Babababy(m): 11:16pm On Aug 09, 2013
@afrokimmy, I can't exactly give you any recommendation as I am yet to have a personal experience, but I will surely keep you posted depending on when you need the info!! I have some Leeds I am following ,nothing concrete yet. The bills in New York are indeed expensive, you will have to balance quality service against good care.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Nobody: 7:25am On Aug 10, 2013
Babababy: Hello everyone , been following the trend for a while and just decided to join today. Great contributions from everyone, am not sure even google could have done a more better job in letting people understand the process of having a baby in America. Well done guys. My wife is due in November and we plan on traveling next month. I have been traveling to the states for the past 5 years of my life on business while my wife has been to the uk but its her first time in the states. She declared her pregnancy at the embassy ,and she was asked if she would be seeking medical aid and she said no,as we intend to pay all our bills . I have a 2 year multiple entry and she and my little boy have a 3 month b1/b2. City of choice is New York because that's where we have family, as I will be leaving them after taking them their. As time goes by, I would be sharing all our experiences with you guys. New York is quite expensive, but we are trying to maximize our resources .

Welcome sir. You said your wife and son got 3month B1B2 visa? Isn't that supposed to expire before her EDD? Didn't you inform the CO that she will be giving birth in the US?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Babababy(m): 11:32am On Aug 10, 2013
bettymafy:

Welcome sir. You said your wife and son got 3month B1B2 visa? Isn't that supposed to expire before her EDD? Didn't you inform the CO that she will be giving birth in the US?
Technically the visa is valid for the three months, which means they should travel within the three months , the CBP officer at the point of entry determines how long they are allowed to stay. They routinely give six months stay, but may vary sometimes depending on what the officer perceives. I didn't attend the interview with them either, the co didn't ask if she was going to give birth in the us. She only asked if she was going to seek medical aid.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by hardeymijuh: 12:15pm On Aug 10, 2013
Babababy:
Technically the visa is valid for the three months, which means they should travel within the three months , the CBP officer at the point of entry determines how long they are allowed to stay. They routinely give six months stay, but may vary sometimes depending on what the officer perceives. I didn't attend the interview with them either, the co didn't ask if she was going to give birth in the us. She only asked if she was going to seek medical aid.

@ Am getting confused Babababy, when is the Visa expiring? I quite agree with Bettymafy's comment. Are you sure the Visa will stll be valid by then? My understanding from your comment is that you intend to extend the Visa at the point of entry. Is that possible even when the visa is expired or almost expiring?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Babababy(m): 1:35pm On Aug 10, 2013
hardeymijuh:

@ Am getting confused Babababy, when is the Visa expiring? I quite agree with Bettymafy's comment. Are you sure the Visa will stll be valid by then? My understanding from your comment is that you intend to extend the Visa at the point of entry. Is that possible even when the visa is expired or almost expiring?

apparently a lot of people still don't understand the diffrence between a united state visa and duration of stay in the united state as stated in the 1-94 card. Take some time out and read from the link I attached ,it is self explanatory,let me know if you understand it afterwards. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/info/info_1298.html
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Nobody: 9:04am On Aug 11, 2013
Babababy: apparently a lot of people still don't understand the diffrence between a united state visa and duration of stay in the united state as stated in the 1-94 card. Take some time out and read from the link I attached ,it is self explanatory,let me know if you understand it afterwards. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/info/info_1298.html

Sorry bro, I still donot understand. Could u please explain using this example?

Let's say, I am given a 3month visa which starts counting from the month it was issued (august)and will be expiring in november and I need to travel that november for birthing purpose and intend staying till january cos my EDD (expected date of delivery) is in december and I will have to take a month to process d necessary document before travelling. . . .

Now, at the port of entry, the period of my stay will be stamped on my form but this period MUST be within the period the visa is valid (August to november). How do I stay till january without getting into trouble and incuring the 10year overstaying ban?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by bamakoe(f): 9:42am On Aug 11, 2013
bettymafy:

Sorry bro, I still donot understand. Could u please explain using this example?

Let's say, I am given a 3month visa which starts counting from the month it was issued (august)and will be expiring in november and I need to travel that november for birthing purpose and intend staying till january cos my EDD (expected date of delivery) is in december and I will have to take a month to process d necessary document before travelling. . . .

Now, at the port of entry, the period of my stay will be stamped on my form but this period MUST be within the period the visa is valid (August to november). How do I stay till january without getting into trouble and incuring the 10year overstaying ban?

Bettymafy what he tried to explain is that even though you travel in November when you visa expires, say on the last day of the visa validity, then 'technically' the CBP officer at the POE can decide to still give you a stay of six months which lasts till May the following year. This is going by the policy of visa validity being mutually exclusive of the I-94 stay. But that's only as technical as it gets, the CBP officer often looks at the visa expiry date and may not issue the I-94 stay beyond that date.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Nobody: 10:13am On Aug 11, 2013
bamakoe:

Bettymafy what he tried to explain is that even though you travel in November when you visa expires, say on the last day of the visa validity, then 'technically' the CBP officer at the POE can decide to still give you a stay of six months which lasts till May the following year. This is going by the policy of visa validity being mutually exclusive of the I-94 stay. But that's only as technical as it gets, the CBP officer often looks at the visa expiry date and may not issue the I-94 stay beyond that date.

Oh, so the CBP can extend someone's stay beyond the validity of the visa? Didn't know that. But, that is a bit risky. What if the CBP decides not to?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Babababy(m): 10:33am On Aug 11, 2013
bamakoe:

Bettymafy what he tried to explain is that even though you travel in November when you visa expires, say on the last day of the visa validity, then 'technically' the CBP officer at the POE can decide to still give you a stay of six months which lasts till May the following year. This is going by the policy of visa validity being mutually exclusive of the I-94 stay. But that's only as technical as it gets, the CBP officer often looks at the visa expiry date and may not issue the I-94 stay beyond that date.
Whao,ok let me try and explain again. A visa allows you knock on the door of the United States,it does guaranty entry. Regardless of duration of visa, if you have a two year visa, it doesn't mean you can stay in the states for two years. What it means is that you can knock n the door for two years. The sole responsibility of how long you stay rest with CBP (customs and border protection). Now if you are issued a 3 month visa between from August and its valid till November , you can enter the United States on the very last day your visa will be expiring. As long as enter the states before the visa expires. Now the CBP officer will check you documents and determine how long stay you need. Most b1/b2 visa holders are routinely issued a stay of 6 months,and in some rare cases 3months. While only b1 holders usually get the duration they requested for,which sometimes might be weeks or even days. It all depends on how the officer perceives your story. But in most cases you will be issued a six months stay. So even if you have a two years multiple entry, you have to leave the states within the period stated by the officer. In the past, the airlines usually give you a departure and arrival card(I-94), and its on this card that the CBP officer will stamp when you should leave the states, they have now put in place a new system since may 2013, and you duration of stay will now be stamped on your passport page . Now if you visa expires 16th of November and you enter the US on the 15th of November, the CBP officer will attend to you and stamp your duration of stay. So even though you visa would have expired the following day, you can remain in the states for the duration of the stay you are permitted. Please note, your visa expiry date has nothing to do with the duration of stay allowed by the CBP officer, always check your passport to confirm how much stay you are granted.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Nobody: 10:45am On Aug 11, 2013
Babababy:
Whao,ok let me try and explain again. A visa allows you knock on the door of the United States,it does guaranty entry. Regardless of duration of visa, if you have a two year visa, it doesn't mean you can stay in the states for two years. What it means is that you can knock n the door for two years. The sole responsibility of how long you stay rest with CBP (customs and border protection). Now if you are issued a 3 month visa between from August and its valid till November , you can enter the United States on the very last day your visa will be expiring. As long as enter the states before the visa expires. Now the CBP officer will check you documents and determine how long stay you need. Most b1/b2 visa holders are routinely issued a stay of 6 months,and in some rare cases 3months. While only b1 holders usually get the duration they requested for,which sometimes might be weeks or even days. It all depends on how the officer perceives your story. But in most cases you will be issued a six months stay. So even if you have a two years multiple entry, you have to leave the states within the period stated by the officer. In the past, the airlines usually give you a departure and arrival card(I-94), and its on this card that the CBP officer will stamp when you should leave the states, they have now put in place a new system since may 2013, and you duration of stay will now be stamped on your passport page . Now if you visa expires 16th of November and you enter the US on the 15th of November, the CBP officer will attend to you and stamp your duration of stay. So even though you visa would have expired the following day, you can remain in the states for the duration of the stay you are permitted. Please note, your visa expiry date has nothing to do with the duration of stay allowed by the CBP officer, always check your passport to confirm how much stay you are granted.

Thanks bro! One really learns everyday. Didn't know that. Safe trip to you and yours. smiley
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by dancewith: 10:54am On Aug 11, 2013
Babababy: Hello everyone , been following the trend for a while and just decided to join today. Great contributions from everyone, am not sure even google could have done a more better job in letting people understand the process of having a baby in America. Well done guys. My wife is due in November and we plan on traveling next month. I have been traveling to the states for the past 5 years of my life on business while my wife has been to the uk but its her first time in the states. She declared her pregnancy at the embassy ,and she was asked if she would be seeking medical aid and she said no,as we intend to pay all our bills . I have a 2 year multiple entry and she and my little boy have a 3 month b1/b2. City of choice is New York because that's where we have family, as I will be leaving them after taking them their. As time goes by, I would be sharing all our experiences with you guys. New York is quite expensive, but we are trying to maximize our resources .

This is a bit tricky. The fact they were given a non full validity visas (2 yrs multiple) means the VO had the pregnancy in mind when issuing the visa. His/Her intention was to prevent her giving birth in the US since she expressly said she wasn't going to do that. She may well go right ahead and deliver in the states, but this may mean she won't be getting a renewal in the foreseeable future.

I have seen this scenario many times. When a shorter term validity visa is issued rather than a full term validity visa, this is a trap. It shows distrust by the VO on the applicant and they will lay ambush for them on their renewal

It depends on how important the renewal or the US delivery is to you but I can tell you for free that if she delivers in the US on this visa, it will take a reasonable while before she gets a renewal

Good luck
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Nobody: 11:01am On Aug 11, 2013
^^^ Hmmn. . .
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Babababy(m): 11:06am On Aug 11, 2013
dancewith:

This is a bit tricky. The fact they were given a non full validity visas (2 yrs multiple) means the VO had the pregnancy in mind when issuing the visa. His/Her intention was to prevent her giving birth in the US since she expressly said she wasn't going to do that. She may well go right ahead and deliver in the states, but this may mean she won't be getting a renewal in the foreseeable future.

I have seen this scenario many times. When a shorter term validity visa is issued rather than a full term validity visa, this is a trap. It shows distrust by the VO on the applicant and they will lay ambush for them on their renewal

It depends on how important the renewal or the US delivery is to you but I can tell you for free that if she delivers in the US on this visa, it will take a reasonable while before she gets a renewal
I believe a 3month visa is routinely issued to first time travelers to the states, my first visa in 2005 was a three month visa, not until 2008 did I start getting 2 years.
Good luck
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by dancewith: 6:25am On Aug 12, 2013
Whites: Babababy, I'm sorry but I have to say you got it wrong. I went to school in the US and lived there for quite a while, and I can tell you that the CBP cannot extend your wife's stay beyond the visa validity period. If you have a 2 year visa, they will decide your duration of stay for each visit- (which has to be within your visa's validity), but the same is not the case for a visa which is about to expire. No one will grant you entry just before your visa is about to expire- the visa is an indicator of your legal status in the US, and if they were to let you in before it expires then it would be tantamount to granting entry to an illegal immigrant, (as you will be out of status)- which will never happen. You need to check this before you travel, otherwise you'll end up disappointed. The US aside, I do not know of any country which will grant you entry at the expiry of your visa. Do your research.

This is factually incorrect. Like Babababy said, a US visa entitles the holder(s) to travel to the US port of entry and seek for admission from a CBP officer.

The date on the visa is irrelevant as long as the visa has NOT expired. The CBP officer is the only one with authority to issue how long you can stay in the US. Your visa expiry date is NOT taken into consideration when the CBP determines how long u can stay. Of course this is for B1/B2 visas

Mostly many people are given 6 months to stay on any of their visits even if they have one day left for their visa to expire. This means that the date the CBP gives u to stay in the US supersedes ur visa validity period. In the past this was done using for I-94 for visa nationals

This is different from European visas. The British visa validity is the last date a holder can stay in the Kingdom as is in most European visas. The US and Canada practises a different system

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by dancewith: 6:59am On Aug 12, 2013
I believe a 3month visa is routinely issued to first time travelers to the states, my first visa in 2005 was a three month visa, not until 2008 did I start getting 2 years.
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Before last month, and starting sometime in 2009, the US consulate in Nigeria had an unstated policy of issuing 2 years full validity visas for B1/B2 applicants. From 2009 up until July this year, you will find that all successful visa applicants got 2 years visa

The large volume of applicants were part of the reason advocated for this unstated policy as the consulate needed to decongest the number of applicants and interview wait time. Prior to 2009, VOs routinely issues shorter validity visas: 3 months, 6 months and 1yr. However the consulate seem to have reinstated the shorter term visas starting sometime or around July this year.

The reason for this is unclear but u should note that a short term visa shows what it is: the VO is not entirely convinced on the applicant and wishes to see how the visa is used before a full validity visa is issued.

So pls it is not all first timers that are issued shorter term visas. It is issued based on the VOs perception of the applicant. The VO feels the applicant qualified for the visa but is not convinced on their reason for travelling to the US.

Most short term validity visa is single entry and almost always annotated. The annotation signifies that the CBP officer must ensure the holder adhers strictly to the reasonfor travelling as stated during the visa interview
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Babababy(m): 11:28am On Aug 12, 2013
dancewith: I believe a 3month visa is routinely issued to first time travelers to the states, my first visa in 2005 was a three month visa, not until 2008 did I start getting 2 years.
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Before last month, and starting sometime in 2009, the US consulate in Nigeria had an unstated policy of issuing 2 years full validity visas for B1/B2 applicants. From 2009 up until July this year, you will find that all successful visa applicants got 2 years visa

The large volume of applicants were part of the reason advocated for this unstated policy as the consulate needed to decongest the number of applicants and interview wait time. Prior to 2009, VOs routinely issues shorter validity visas: 3 months, 6 months and 1yr. However the consulate seem to have reinstated the shorter term visas starting sometime or around July this year.

The reason for this is unclear but u should note that a short term visa shows what it is: the VO is not entirely convinced on the applicant and wishes to see how the visa is used before a full validity visa is issued.?

At no point did I mention that a 3 month visa is only for first timers. I said routinely, I have other issues on my mind ,if they dot grant them visa again ,so be it, America is one of the many places on the planet. To each his own, knowledge is as and no one person knows all.

So pls it is not all first timers that are issued shorter term visas. It is issued based on the VOs perception of the applicant. The VO feels the applicant qualified for the visa but is not convinced on their reason for travelling to the US.

Most short term validity visa is single entry and almost always annotated. The annotation signifies that the CBP officer must ensure the holder adhers strictly to the reasonfor travelling as stated during the visa interview
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Babababy(m): 11:34am On Aug 12, 2013
Whites: Babababy, I'm sorry but I have to say you got it wrong. I went to school in the US and lived there for quite a while, and I can tell you that the CBP cannot extend your wife's stay beyond the visa validity period. If you have a 2 year visa, they will decide your duration of stay for each visit- (which has to be within your visa's validity), but the same is not the case for a visa which is about to expire. No one will grant you entry just before your visa is about to expire- the visa is an indicator of your legal status in the US, and if they were to let you in before it expires then it would be tantamount to granting entry to an illegal immigrant, (as you will be out of status)- which will never happen. You need to check this before you travel, otherwise you'll end up disappointed. The US aside, I do not know of any country which will grant you entry at the expiry of your visa. Do your research.

I think the reverse is the case ,you are the one that needs to actually do more research. Information is vital in life, always be Hungry for it. Go and verify my claims properly, you schooling in the US amours to nothing in regards the topic of discussion.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by hardeymijuh: 1:34pm On Aug 12, 2013
Questions About Visas?
My visa will expire while I am in the United States. Is there a problem with that?

No. If the Department of Homeland Security, Customs and Border Protection Immigration Officer at the port of entry (generally an airport) admitted you into the United States for a specific period of time, s/he will note your authorized period of stay on your admission stamp or paper Form I-94, Arrival/Departure Record. You will be able to remain in the United States during your authorized period of stay, even if your visa expires during the time you are in the United States. If you are issued a paper Form I-94, this will document your authorized stay and is the official record of your permission to be in the U.S. It is very important to keep inside your passport.

For more info:- http://travel.state.gov/visa/questions/questions_1253.html#10

Babababy is right,but i as a person will not take that risk........
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Babababy(m): 2:00pm On Aug 12, 2013
hardeymijuh: Questions About Visas?
My visa will expire while I am in the United States. Is there a problem with that?

No. If the Department of Homeland Security, Customs and Border Protection Immigration Officer at the port of entry (generally an airport) admitted you into the United States for a specific period of time, s/he will note your authorized period of stay on your admission stamp or paper Form I-94, Arrival/Departure Record. You will be able to remain in the United States during your authorized period of stay, even if your visa expires during the time you are in the United States. If you are issued a paper Form I-94, this will document your authorized stay and is the official record of your permission to be in the U.S. It is very important to keep inside your passport.

For more info:- http://travel.state.gov/visa/questions/questions_1253.html#10

Babababy is right,but i as a person will not take that risk........

Apparently their is no risk involved at all, it's just the way the American system works. The only problem is with us as individuals, most people just assume an American visa works like most European countries.

Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Nobody: 4:08pm On Aug 12, 2013
Whites: Babababy, I'm sorry but I have to say you got it wrong. I went to school in the US and lived there for quite a while, and I can tell you that the CBP cannot extend your wife's stay beyond the visa validity period. If you have a 2 year visa, they will decide your duration of stay for each visit- (which has to be within your visa's validity), but the same is not the case for a visa which is about to expire. No one will grant you entry just before your visa is about to expire- the visa is an indicator of your legal status in the US, and if they were to let you in before it expires then it would be tantamount to granting entry to an illegal immigrant, (as you will be out of status)- which will never happen. You need to check this before you travel, otherwise you'll end up disappointed. The US aside, I do not know of any country which will grant you entry at the expiry of your visa. Do your research.

The visa officer on the other thread just cleared this up. The CBP has the right to extend a traveller's stay notwithstanding the expiration of the visa so far the traveller gets to the POE on a valid visa.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by Nobody: 4:16pm On Aug 12, 2013
dancewith:

This is a bit tricky. The fact they were given a non full validity visas (2 yrs multiple) means the VO had the pregnancy in mind when issuing the visa. His/Her intention was to prevent her giving birth in the US since she expressly said she wasn't going to do that. She may well go right ahead and deliver in the states, but this may mean she won't be getting a renewal in the foreseeable future.

I have seen this scenario many times. When a shorter term validity visa is issued rather than a full term validity visa, this is a trap. It shows distrust by the VO on the applicant and they will lay ambush for them on their renewal

It depends on how important the renewal or the US delivery is to you but I can tell you for free that if she delivers in the US on this visa, it will take a reasonable while before she gets a renewal

Good luck

The VO didn't ask if she will be giving birth in the US. He only asked if she will be seeking medicaid which she said no to. It's so not like she denied the pregnancy or the fact that she will be birthing there. I don't think she will be refused visa the next time she applies. Moreover, she was given a B1B2 visa and nt just B1.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedure? by hardeymijuh: 5:04pm On Aug 12, 2013
bettymafy:

The visa officer on the other thread just cleared this up. The CBP has the right to extend a traveller's stay notwithstanding the expiration of the visa so far the traveller gets to the POE on a valid visa.

@Bettymafy,

What if the CBP officer stamps for only one month. Will the person be able to extend while still in the US even (with the expired Visa). I know that is possible normally just wondering if this applicable in this case too.

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