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Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Princessbettyj(f): 7:46pm On Oct 11, 2020
This Lagos eh,na God dey save person...local woman is tired undecided
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by yesloaded: 7:50pm On Oct 11, 2020
southniyikaye:
that's mushin developer for you bro
Too bad

It's better to build house with mud than using 1 bag of cement to mould 48 blocks for building

Chai
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Sleekfingers: 7:55pm On Oct 11, 2020
emmanuelbrown26:
RIP Still available for sell Price: 39M Location: Lagos

who go buy house for this dirty environment?
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Sleekfingers: 7:58pm On Oct 11, 2020
Who is to be blame now? Shey na lagos govt, the owner or the engineer?
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by OBA117(m): 8:03pm On Oct 11, 2020
That was the result of using substandard materials to build house and also lack of master plan
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Starzo: 8:09pm On Oct 11, 2020
That Italian na photographer. No be engineer
Trust me I know what I'm saying
Must of the so called "foreign expatriates" we have working in this country r not actually trained in the field they claim to be experts in
RealAlubarika:


You should say qualified Engineer, A building that collapsed close to my area in 2015 was supervised by an engineer, though the building was still under construction thank God no life was lost cause it happened at night. What of the new Central hospital that some part collapsed during construction and killed the Italian Engineer?

I rise
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by RealAlubarika(m): 8:22pm On Oct 11, 2020
Starzo:
That Italian na photographer. No be engineer
Trust me I know what I'm saying
Must of the so called "foreign expatriates" we have working in this country r not actually trained in the field they claim to be experts in

Please don't say so, Italians are good in construction. In Europe when you talk of construction you talk of Italians, Germans, Spanish and Portuguese.
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by UndauntedYOCA(f): 8:28pm On Oct 11, 2020
Wahala for who dey live for Nigeria.
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Zurich1844(f): 8:41pm On Oct 11, 2020
emmanuelbrown26:
RIP
Still available for sell
Price: 39M
Location: Lagos

39M for this dilapidated house? You never start!
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Starzo: 9:00pm On Oct 11, 2020
I Know but I mean the ones coming to Nigeria r not the real experts
RealAlubarika:


Please don't say so, Italians are good in construction. In Europe when you talk of construction you talk of Italians, Germans, Spanish and Portuguese.
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Nobody: 9:05pm On Oct 11, 2020
raymondFirstborn:
Get engineer for your project, na bricklayer una go carry work give.

Modified.
Ftc for the first time. grin
Most of the building in Nigeria 90% even in 98% of African countries for users like families, apartments do you think a civil engineer was contracted? You get money to pay? mind you buildings by civil engineer use engineering block not those 9 inches blocks. It is quite expensive but the longevity outweighs the short term loss.
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by nick50(m): 9:11pm On Oct 11, 2020
The place Na haven for ashewos besides how can u use 1mm rod to build a 3 story building and expect it not to collapse
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Nobody: 9:21pm On Oct 11, 2020
Adonis86:
This is the consequences of building without a good master plan, unprofessional building engineer, using substandard materials and trying to economise materials.

Government still not doing the best. All they know is to collect money and pay no attention to the nature of work going on, as well as the omonile
Have you done an investigation to ascertain the cause of the collapse of the building? If there is good civil engineers in Nigeria, there would have started an investigation to know the root cause of the collapse in Lagos especially with the numerous building collapse.
It is certain all what you mentioned can not be the case until an investigation is done.
There's this civil engineer I know very well, he is a project manager that was contracted worked with quality materials, no poor workmanship or whatsoever, he had 13year of experience from Europe, he studied in Europe, and had many experience from there, got his license from there too. Was involved in a bridge construction, it collapse killed about 30 people or so, his license was revoke, he can not practice or do anything engineering whatsoever in his life again but what saved him was everything according to standard was followed and quality was ensured, he spent up to 15 years in prison after that he became a tutor. That bridge took decades before it was constructed after his arrest because there was a very strong wind that brought the bridge down at particular season of the year, though not in Nigeria it happened.
So my advice is whatever you do ensure you follow the standard and quality from beginning to end it will only be your evidence to proof that you are innocent.
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by yinkarh187(m): 9:28pm On Oct 11, 2020
ateamblezing:
RIP TO THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES, BAD FOUNDATION IS THE CAUSE OF THIS.
you know this how?
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Nobody: 9:39pm On Oct 11, 2020
RealAlubarika:


Please don't say so, Italians are good in construction. In Europe when you talk of construction you talk of Italians, Germans, Spanish and Portuguese.
True talk, when it comes to construction Italians are superb, it is in Nigeria I have seen so far hiring Chinese and Lebanese.
For example in Ghana they use Italian, Brazilians, Germans for most of their government construction work, not until recently Chinese loans came in to most African countries.

There's this certified civil engineer I know very well, he is a project manager that was contracted worked with quality materials, no poor workmanship or whatsoever, he had 13year of experience from Europe, he studied in Europe, and had many experience from there, got his license from there too. Was involved in a bridge construction, it collapse killed about 30 people or so, his license was revoked, he can not practice or do anything engineering whatsoever in his life again but what saved him was everything according to standard was followed and quality was ensured, he spent up to 15 years in prison after that he became a tutor. That bridge took decades before it was constructed after his arrest because there was a very strong wind that brought the bridge down at particular season of the year, though not in Nigeria it happened.
So my advice is whatever you do ensure you follow the standard and quality from beginning to end it will only be your evidence to proof that you are innocent.

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Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by AssistantJesus1: 9:49pm On Oct 11, 2020
cool
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 10:08pm On Oct 11, 2020
Building construction and designs have been reduced to a mere business venture in Nigeria....

A Client is trying to save cost but will end up chasing away the Engineer's specifications to use his cousin or nephew who claims to have full knowledge of site work immediately the project comes up ...

Buying of material becomes a tussle......

The Engineer if not well grounded in professional ethics will use because of hunger in Buhari government to continue working......

Nigeria no balance at all.......

Contact good Professional Architect and Engineer
Work with a Client that understands the ethics of construction or quit the work to save your integrity........

If the Engineer handling this collapsed building is not a registered Engineer with COREN......
His case will be a murder case......
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Aguogba(m): 10:11pm On Oct 11, 2020
EdmundChidera:
Let me talk like righteousness

The world is about to end

Be watchful


Repent the end is near


You can see the sign
If e no be panadol, e no fit be like panadol
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Nobody: 11:19pm On Oct 11, 2020
So sad RIP to the dead
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by anonimi: 4:27am On Oct 12, 2020
Adonis86:
This is the consequences of building without a good master plan, unprofessional building engineer, using substandard materials and trying to economise materials.

Government still not doing the best. All they know is to collect money and pay no attention to the nature of work going on, as well as the omonile

All they know is collect money and load it into bullion vans for the Bourdillon GagaBandit.


anonimi:
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FreeGlobe:
In Lagos, Alpha Beta, as consultants, gets 10 percent of whatever Lagos State generates monthly. If this statement confuses you, you are not alone. There are just a few things you need to keep in mind though: Lagos State generates roughly 31 billion Naira a month. Ten percent of that is going to a consultancy firm owned by the former governor of Lagos State, Bola Tinubu. 75% of the revenue generated by Lagos State comes from taxes.

If you need to read the paragraph again, you are not alone. However, the truth of the matter is that Alpha Beta Company has been the tax consultant to the Lagos State government since 1999, when the former governor Tinubu began his tenure.

That year, Alpha Beta Company had definitely succeeded by delivering a dramatic rise in monthly state revenue from about 600 million Naira to 7.7 billion Naira. A laudable achievement indeed, but it would have been less so if the citizens of Lagos State knew what they had traded it in for. Alpha Beta Company had charged the state of Lagos a whopping one billion Naira a month for their services.

Now, just to reiterate, Tinubu owns Alpha Beta Company. Tinubu was also at the time, the Governor of Lagos State. Alpha Beta Company became the tax consultant for Lagos State in 1999, and they charged roughly 13% of the entire state revenue.

Today, Alpha Beta Company is still the tax consultant for the state. They now charge roughly 10% of the entire state revenue and Tinubu still owns it. The only thing that has changed is that Tinubu is no longer the Governor of Lagos State, or so it says on paper. With utmost respect to the office of State Governor, Tinubu is still very much in control of the state’s affairs, or at the very least, its revenue.

Despite all feelings of being scandalized here, one must look at the big picture. Governor Fashola is still working for Bola Tinubu. If he was not, things might have changed. New relationships would have been forged with the State Government and interest groups. However, the standings beg the question: what has really changed since then?

Undisclosed sources claim that Tinubu’s role in installing Fashola as Governor of the State is the biggest hindrance for the present regime. An agreement between Fashola and Tinubu over the duration of the tenure of governorship, as well as the selection of certain cabinet members paints a vivid picture on the sort of bind Fashola is in. At the moment however, one wonders whether or not he finds it at convenient as he used to, or if he ever did.

What is clear, however, is that there appears to be a lot of money changing hands, and the masses are still bewildered over the fate of roughly 31 billion Naira in revenue per month. There are a number of allegations regarding Fashola’s spending penchants. Here are just a few of them that beg to be disproved:

1. That in 2009, Fashola gave N250 million to the Rotimi Akeredolu-led executive of the Nigeria Bar Association (NBA) for the NBA conference held in Lagos, at a time when Lagos teachers and doctors were on strike for improved welfare package.

2. The Babatunde Raji Fashola Government within six months, January to June 2009, spent N420 million on the hiring of private security – to guard who? – despite his heavy investment in the Police Force through the State Security Trust Fund.

3. Babatunde Raji Fashola spent N1.5 billion to demolish the Bank of Industry (BOI) building, paying a company introduced by one Tunji Olowolafe in cash transfer, only for him and his cronies to claim the land adjacent to it.

4. The Babatunde Raji Fashola Government awarded a part of Western Avenue (Funsho Williams Road), about two kilometres road for N7.7 billion, just between Abalti Barracks and Costain. And without the construction of any bridge, the project was carried out by Julius Berger. This project must certainly be investigated.

5. Between January and June 2009, the Babatunde Raji Fashola Government claimed to have fuelled 225 vehicles in his office alone with N135 million. These figures amount to about N800,000 per day at a time that petrol was sold for N65 per litre. The Government always got fuel cheaper, but Babatunde Raji Fashola claimed to have bought it at N85 per litre.

6. Between January and June 2009, Babatunde Raji Fashola’s Chief of Staff and Personal Assistants expended N290 million in sending text messages and phone calls on their lines.

7. It is also very sad to know that the Babatunde Raji Fashola Government awarded the construction of a road and drains inside Gbagada General Hospital for over N1.8 billion to the same Tunji Olowolafe’s company (DEUX Projects Limited).

8. The sum of N1.5 billion of un-appropriated funds, without approval, was claimed to have been spent on the demolition of Oshodi.

9. The Helicopter Deal was a big fraud. The helicopter was not built for any kind of emergency evacuation, rescue or to even combat urban fire. Over N5 billion has been spent on the two helicopters. And the seal of Lagos State is not on it, and it is not even in Lagos but in the Niger Delta making money for some private people in Government. The whole helicopter deal stinks to high heavens; it constitutes the biggest governmental fraud of all times and confirms the rot in the State. See THISDAY December 19, 2009.

10. The Senior Special Assistant, SSA (Media) to Babatunde Raji Fashola spent N183 million in six months on press coverage and editors outside the approved budget but funded directly from the Governor’s Office.

11. In a State where children are sitting on the floor in classrooms, where unemployment is rampant and poverty pervasive, Babatunde Raji Fashola paid the wife of a controversial pastor over N600 million in two years for Christmas decorations for about six streets in Lagos.

12. In six months, between January and June 2009, Babatunde Raji Fashola spent monies on several faceless organisations, subventions, grants and donations such that they quickly pocketed N2 billion.

Most of these allegations were compiled by the True Face of Lagos, the same group that petitioned against Fashola to the House of Assembly and the EFCC. The Lagos State Government is under the proverbial microscope and the masses are watching wit rapt attention.
http://www.lestweforgetnaija.com/index.php/articles/item/120-tinubu-fashola-alpha-beta-and-the-taxation-rape-of-lagos


three:
The erstwhile Managing Director of AlphaBeta, the Lagos State consultant on IGR took to twitter to share his petition to the EFCC via the law firm Adetunji Shoyoye and Associates.

He Accuses the firm among other things of corruption and money Laundering.

https://twitter.com/DapoApara/status/1037577498220015616?s=19

See tweets and petition below.... \



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Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by redsun(m): 7:15am On Oct 12, 2020
No single emergency service response team on the scene. A very unstructured country run by criminals.
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by EmekaA125(m): 9:52am On Oct 12, 2020
Lagos State government needs to checkmate incessant occurrence of building collapse in the State. Sanwo-Olu is never a governor material. Too bad!!!
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Kambols95(m): 3:05pm On Oct 12, 2020
News of collapse have been on the increase especially this peak season of the rain. The disheartening part of the story is that the building is still under construction.

The professionals in the built environment have a lot to do to safeguard future occurrence. We need to get back on our feet and explore more on researches, professional development etc to double our inputs on methods that will improve the services of building production.

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Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by Emma1Oj(m): 5:29pm On Oct 12, 2020
I once lived at obalende..most of the buildings in Ajeniya, Odo and Eleshi are dilapidated and I recently visited there the area look so...decade and untidy. No wonder Fashola wanted to demolish the area den.
Re: Building Collapses In Obalende, Lagos. 4 Dead by femmyAdagba(m): 6:32pm On Oct 12, 2020
builders are mandated to build.
but they wont patronise us. it is well with Nigeria

Adonis86:
This is the consequences of building without a good master plan, unprofessional building engineer, using substandard materials and trying to economise materials.

Government still not doing the best. All they know is to collect money and pay no attention to the nature of work going on, as well as the omonile

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