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Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by McKren(m): 3:50pm On Jun 24, 2007 |
Ex- Governors: What is Nuhu Ribadu Doing? Interesting article but in all honesty, whose fault is it? Ribadu or Yaradua |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by Bankole01(m): 4:49pm On Jun 24, 2007 |
Obasanjo! The boys (thieve-executives) did his bidding in the April selections by making sure their States stayed in PDP hands! Now, they are being rewarded by the OBJ attack dog (Ribadu) If you look at things as they stand, even the federal government kitty was loted dry by Obasanjo and his goons. So where does EFCC start?? |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by Mariory(m): 12:45am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Bankole01: And you were there when the kitty was looted dry? Is that how you know? Wait let me guess, you know all because you have special powers that let you know all. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by DisGuy: 2:32am On Jun 25, 2007 |
McKren: everyone of them/us! one thing is for sure, Yaradua want things done properly, he doesnt want to step on too many toes immediately, dealing with strike, empty state treasuries and daily kidnappings, the guy is not even settled yet I wonder what happened to ribadu and his new found civilized way maybe he listened to many of us Nigerians shouting about the way he goes about bullying and terrorising people. there are several people saying this and that about the way the operate, i mean how do we expect him to deal with hardened criminals who will obviously like the more 'civilised' approach so they wriggle out of their predicament by negotiating. 31 out of 36 governors* and hundreds of assistant where exactly can they start, how can they arrest all of them within a month. Hot air or perhaps he ran out of steam already? naija frustration no get part deux anyway lets wait and see |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by denex: 2:45am On Jun 25, 2007 |
They should just let all of them roam at large for the next 2 years before tackling their matter one by one. Except Luck of course. Lucky Igbinedion must be quarantined and dealt with ASAP. Since the state money used in celebrating his father's birthday for complete 8 years cannot be recovered, we could try to convert 80% shares in Igbinedion University and Independent Television. Afterall, it's state funds that have developed those in the past 8 years. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by debosky(m): 2:50am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Nuhu Ribadu was fond of rabble rousing and boasting, the time has come for him to act now, yet we haven't seen much. I guess he now realises its not as easy as all the noise we were hearing earlier to put a case together against rich and influential people who still have hands in the establishment of the current government. I still believe it is too early to say too much, but the refunds are a first step if they truly are happening, we do not want to simply lock them up and end up losing all the funds to foreign countries and start another Abacha loot recovery session. If indeed the aim is to first recoup the stolen funds, then prosecute later, we should allow them to continue the work. Yar'Adua has not come out boldly to back Ribadu - till he does that he will not have the kind of authority he had under Obj who gave him near unconditional backing for his work. I do not blame him though, the just ended strike and other issues of setting up his government will probably be more important in his mind than chasing his ex buddies at the guv's forum. Time will tell, and soon too. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by chidichris(m): 10:55am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Ribadu is a good movie actor and i wonder why he is yet to find his fit in the nollywood. pete edochie and rmd are all good but ribadu is better because the way he interprets scripts make it look real than the writter can even imagine. Orji Uzo this, orji uzo that but let us wait till may 29 but orji started waiting for the efcc at least three days to may 29 he removed his cloths of immunity and stood up for the task ahead. we shld all remember that orji was talking about obj when he was president let ribadu attack him so that he will tell nigerians what they are yet to hear about obj. yar adua and obj are stepping with caution. all the ex-govs know things we don't know so random arrests can expose or even explode the country. they are all guilty and they are all out of immunity so anyone can go down but above all, as a good actor, ribadu cannot try to bite the finger that is feeding him. from the unset, i know he is not what he claims. real people like okonjo iweala could not exist alongside obj. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by angel101(f): 11:04am On Jun 25, 2007 |
denex:I seriously doubt that ur suggestion will be feasible cos I know for a fact that in Nigeria things are quickly forgotten and important events over taken by new intrigues which creep up avey single day! Much as i totally Loathe Lucky Igbinedion for what he has done to my state, why would u advocate double standards in dealing with the issue of corruption among the govs? Lucky most certainly should be dealt with ASAP and same with all others! |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by denex: 11:57am On Jun 25, 2007 |
Well Lucky should be given preferential treatment because of the impunity with which he robbed Edo state. There was a day I went to Ring Road in Benin last year and I saw that the Ring Road roundabout and the pavements had been painted, leading all the way to Lucky's Father's house. That was when I remembered it was daddy's birthday again. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by angel101(f): 12:23pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
LOL!! |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by mazaje(m): 5:38pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
The vice presidents wife was involved in money laundering too so Yar adua and Ribadu have to trade very very carefully else they destroy the very house in which they are living in. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 6:00pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
I don't know why you guys are still talking about EFCC. The organization is finished. No one knows the current status of Ribadu with the federal government, no one even knows whether EFCC still exist in Nigeria or not. I've stated this in the past, a one man show organization usually doesn't last. Instead of one man show operation, EFCC as an organization should have been structured as a team concept, this way even if Ridabu is condemned of anything, the organization can still move on without any hesitation. EFCC has reached the dead end, all because of OBJ and RIBADU. A typical Nigerian way of thinking and operation. No one thinks about the future or perfection. It all about wuruwuru, magomago and pafpaf. it is a shame, sad and total lack of direction! Please, let's talk about something constructive. EFCC is a dead state of mind. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by McKren(m): 7:31pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
I know why you are celebrating But you might be celebrating just too early. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by fromuk(m): 7:40pm On Jun 25, 2007 |
The bottom line is that EFCC was formed to do a job and the job is done, if they scrap the useless organisation it makes no meaning as they have done their job and done it well. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by feelgood(m): 12:04am On Jun 26, 2007 |
I actually think we r reading d situation wrongly. We r forgetting that yar Adua's style is different & pple under him must adjust accordingly. I suspect the crooks are being given a false sense of security 2 enable them cough out the loot before the strike. It is foolhardy to call the tiger weak because it's first steps towards the prey are slow. There shall b a lot of surprises - even the foxy obj is wary of this tiger & not fooled. Watch pple |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by Beline(f): 12:25pm On Jun 26, 2007 |
feelgood: we are watching!!! |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 1:50pm On Jun 26, 2007 |
Posted by McKren: I know why you are celebrating I'm happy that you do. There is only one king (God) and he has given us the permission to celebrate. There is nothing anyone could do about it, the celebration continues forever and ever. Sorry! |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by DisGuy: 1:54pm On Jun 26, 2007 |
Big B1: abacha's family said the same thing |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 2:35pm On Jun 26, 2007 |
See? One of typical Nigerian ways "we love to speculate on nothing" What does Abacha's family got to do with this matter? Ridiculous and unbelievable. @ DisGuy, please go somewhere |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 3:15pm On Jun 26, 2007 |
@McKren: Believe it or not, I do understand your sincere love for Ribadu, infact I share the same feeling. But if we truly crave for a developed Nigeria, we should also be sincere enough to identify inefficiency, inconsistency, failure and ineffectiveness. Ribadu had the fullest authority to successfully carry out his duties accordingly, but he did not, he allowed people to use him as political police dog. Infact Ribadu has a lot to do with the crisis in Oyo State, Anambra and he is the main reason why none of these governors has been arrested as yet. If he had done his job accordingly, this new administration wouldn't have been hesitant to arrest these thieves, But Mr Ribadu and OBJ did such a sludgy unprofessional job that it will be irrational for Yar'Adua to follow the same steps. And Kudos to Yar'Adua for taking his time. It just doesn't make any sense to follow pure failure. Hence I totally blame Ribadu, not even OBJ. (but I still love him and I continue to admire his pure determination and I also wish him well) |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 4:02pm On Jun 26, 2007 |
By EFCC's Ribadu, I am referring to Nuhu Ribadu, the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) helmsman. The EFCC is the anti-graft body set up by erstwhile Nigerian President, Olusegun Obasanjo to tackle graft but it ended up as his toy, tackling his enemies - imaginary and otherwise and championing his third term agenda by remote. For anything that has to do with President Obasanjo always had a sinister agenda. The rest as they say is history. http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2007/jun/143.html |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 9:36pm On Jun 26, 2007 |
@McKren: This is the problem with you, you tend to dissipate pretty quickly after being smacked around for just few minutes. I challenge you to come and proof that Ribadu hasn't contributed to the down fall of war against corruption in Nigeria today. War against corruption, a wonderful implementation that was mismanaged by a misguided chairman. You tell me, who is to blame? |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by MILITIA(f): 9:39pm On Jun 26, 2007 |
@Topic Wetin be the difference between the two of them?----------- ---Scratching my arse! |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by McKren(m): 11:10pm On Jun 26, 2007 |
BigB1 You know that am obviously not running away from you, when you have a leader doing your wish in his desperate search for acceptance. All your claims will easily be confused as right. Defending Ribadu is what I love to do, and I will always do it. In fact whenever I have the honour to tell my kids about "Heros of Nigeria" who tried to make a difference. Ribadu will be part of that list. But trying to convince you (BigB1) to appreciate Ribadu, is an excersice in futility. And I am not going to attempt it. It is obvious that the Children of Alams, Tafa Balogun, and all those Ribadu brought down will simply not have kind words for him. I do understand that because I don't know if I will have kind words for him if I am one. However, what needs to be done needs to be done. I don't know what you mean by Ribadu undermining the Anti-Corruption War, I have always asked you to produce one Innocent person Ribadu has prosecuted and till date you have not. Please don't bore me with talks of Selectivity, Ribadu is a professional and it is not his duty to keep inventory of those you consider friends or enemies of President. Those he was able to establish facts againts he prosecuted, those he was not able to he is still investigating. If there is any person you think is corrupt and should be prosecuted, it is your duty as a patriotic Nigerian to furnish the EFCC and the Police with any dosiers you have on that person or remain silent. Ribadu is not going to prosecute anybody he has not been able to establish cases against merely because there is an unsubstantiated public perception that the person is corrupt. Courts don't do public opinnion or logic, they do facts. No one in the history of this Nation has fought corruption the way Ribadu did, if Yaradua decides to demobilise EFCC I wish him luck. But then Ribadu will hold his head up high knowing he gave it his best shut. But like I always tell you, you might just be celebrating too early. It is only 1 month into Yaradua's Government and I wont like to speculate on his policy direction. I am waiting for his official Cabinet list, then we will know if his loyalty is to Nigeria or the hawks. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 12:54am On Jun 27, 2007 |
@McKren: Obviously you love Ribadu and it is true that love is blind; this is also why you've found it very difficult to figure out what Mr Ribadu did wrong or how he refused to carry out his duties accordingly during his time as chairman of the EFCC. Yes, you're absolutely correct that the man tried his best, and his best has also created an obstacle for this new administration. Hence his best represents failure. This man had everything to exercise his duty successfully, but of course he was misguided and blew this opportunity. At the end of the day, there is absolutely nothing to show for all his operations. Believe it or not, this new administration is currently struggling with some decisions just because of Ribadu and OBJ's fake war against corruption. It is crystal clear to all (except McKren) that the job was sloppy and totally unprofessional. With folks like you around, people like Ribadu will never get to see or understand what they've done incorrectly or how to improve. If we, Nigerians embrace perfection in everything that we do, 90% of our problems will be solved immediately. But folks like you, McKren refuse to understand this fact. It's all about wuruwuru, magomago, pafpaf and short cuts; and at the end of the day the outcome will be a fat zero as usual. Go to Abuja and ask anybody and they will let you know that the governors (thieves) have not been arrested all because of Mr Ribadu's incredible accomplishment. Give me a break. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 1:04am On Jun 27, 2007 |
@McKren We will never attain the mountain peak being selective. Discrimination is a crime! |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by McKren(m): 7:43am On Jun 27, 2007 |
Stop using the word selective cos you dont understand the meaning You can fool those you want to fool not me. Your personal grudges with Ribadu is for attempting to touch Nigeria's untouchable, IBB. Prove me wrong if you can. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 2:09pm On Jun 27, 2007 |
@McKren: Could you please introduce to me the meaning of "selective" Deep down, Mr Ribadu understands his mistakes and pretty soon he will publicly accept the responsibility like a man and then move on. FYI:I have nothing to gain or lose if IBB is touched; hence there is absolutely nothing for me to prove. Too many are Too corrupt for Too long. If you can not punish all, then it makes no sense to punish any. This is the fact and the latest in Abuja; the most intelligent and effective way of addressing war against corruption. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by angel101(f): 2:19pm On Jun 27, 2007 |
feelgood:I hope u're right. @BigB1 & McKren I beg to disagree with u. while i agree that Ribadu was selective in dealing with corruption, i believe he did the job to best of his ability. Abi u go do pass wetin ur master send u? he was acting on instructions and could not do otherwise. EFCC was not an independent body. shikena! |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by McKren(m): 2:40pm On Jun 27, 2007 |
angel101: Very reasonable comment. EFCC was not independent agreed, not because Ribadu did not want to be independent but because Presidency had every right to fire the EFCC boss without explanation. That is the unfortunate nature of the act setting up EFCC. While I do agree that EFCC was not independent the talk of selectivity does not hold water with me. Because Ribadu went against Tafa Balogun against the wishes of OBJ. And a lot of politicians considered friends of OBJ. When EFCC indicts any they will tell you the politician in question picked up a quarell with the President the previous night that was why EFCC went after him. Politicians indulging in all sorts of pettiness to justify their impunity. Where else in the world will a public officer justify his being corrupt because the other person is coorupt except in Nigeria. That is BigB1's idea of perfect Nigeria or perfect strategy. Ken Nnamani attempted to make EFCC independent by making it necessary to require 2/3 majority of both house of assembly to remove the EFCC boss, why did the House of Representatives not ratify it? Why did they not help make EFCC independent if they mean well for Nigeria Now we have our EFCC learning to do cash-for-freedom bargain. That is BigB1's and Mr. Listening President's new idea of fighting corruption effectively. The new Governors should simply loot as much as they can so that they will have enough money to negotiate cash-for-freedom deal. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by BigB11(m): 2:47pm On Jun 27, 2007 |
Posted by angel101: @BigB1 & McKren @Angel101 Excellent point; which means Ribadu wasn't really fighting to delete corruption in Nigeria. He was only following the instruction from his master> This is also one of the reasons he has been labelled as a political police dog. So, Mr. McKren, stop preaching rubbish. If the goal was to clean up and completely delete corruption in Nigeria, then Ribadu would have produced a little bit more and his duties would have been more effective. I haven't seen any solid benefit from Ribadu's era as yet; I truly believe that he created more confusion than anything else. He's responsible for the crisis in Oyo state, Anambra and he has created the delay and the reason why none of these governors has been arrested. |
Re: Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru by McKren(m): 2:57pm On Jun 27, 2007 |
He's responsible for the crisis in Oyo state, Anambra and he has created the delay and the reason why none of these governors has been arrested That sums up how misguided your argument is and your desperate attempt to blackmail Ribadu at all cost. Ribadu did not play any role in the impeachment of Ladoja and Peter Obi. If anything he thought Adebibu and Alao Akala were not fit to be leaders. |
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