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How Pdp Can Win Lagos by JProspero: 2:47pm On Mar 10, 2011
Can PDP or any party beat Fashola in Lagos? The answer is a big NO. The only reason Tinubu did not replace Fashola was because he would have lost Lagos without Fashola. So PDP should forget 2011 and focus on 2015. The killing of Funso Williams was a big blow to PDP's chances. The way things are today, PDP or any other party may not rule Lagos in the next 30 years unless ACN makes a serious mistake.  One strategy to beat ACN is to curry the sympathies of non-Yorubas by picking a popular non-Yoruba, preferably an Igbo, as running mate to a popular Yoruba man. That way, the millions of non-Yorubas, esp Igbos, who feel not-too-concerned with Lagos politics will become passionate voters. But will PDP be wise to do this? Petty ethnic considerations may not let them.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by seanet02: 2:55pm On Mar 10, 2011
JProspero:

Can PDP or any party beat Fashola in Lagos? The answer is a big NO. The only reason Tinubu did not replace Fashola was because he would have lost Lagos without Fashola. So PDP should forget 2011 and focus on 2015. The killing of Funso Williams was a big blow to PDP's chances. The way things are today, PDP or any other party may not rule Lagos in the next 30 years unless ACN makes a serious mistake.  One strategy to beat ACN is to curry the sympathies of [b][s]non-Yorubas by picking a popular non-Yoruba, preferably an Igbo, as running mat[/s][/b]e to a popular Yoruba man. That way, the millions of non-Yorubas, esp Igbos, who feel not-too-concerned with Lagos politics will become passionate voters. But will PDP be wise to do this? Petty ethnic considerations may not let them.
Very Good Revelation except for the Impossible Bolded
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by JProspero: 5:24pm On Mar 10, 2011
seanet02:

Very Good Revelation except for the Impossible Bolded
Pls why is it not possible to have a non-Yoruba running mate in Lagos?
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by seanet02: 5:42pm On Mar 10, 2011
JProspero:

Pls why is it not possible to have a non-Yoruba running mate in Lagos?
Because it is not also Possible to have a Non Igbo Deputy Governor in Ndigbo!!!
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by tubolancer(m): 5:49pm On Mar 10, 2011
I think the igbo mind their business and leave the politics of Lagos to the Yorubas,a word is enough for the wise.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by Arysexy(m): 6:01pm On Mar 10, 2011
^^^^
cowardly advice, what happens to one Nigeria? Its seems Awolowo's tribal gene is still running inside lots of yoribas.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by seanet02: 6:34pm On Mar 10, 2011
Arysexy:

^^^^
cowardly advice, what happens to one Nigeria? Its seems Awolowo's tribal gene is still running inside lots of yoribas.
Mor0n, what happens to One Biafra?
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by jason123: 6:37pm On Mar 10, 2011
tubolancer:

I think the igbo mind their business and leave the politics of Lagos to the Yorubas,a word is enough for the wise.

Ha, leave them.

Arysexy:

^^^^
cowardly advice, what happens to one Nigeria? Its seems Awolowo's tribal gene is still running inside lots of yoribas.

Keep running your mouth. One day, you will push these people to the wall and they will react.

seanet02:

Because it is not also Possible to have a Non Igbo Deputy Governor in Ndigbo!!!

Yet, it is the yorubas that are tribalist not igbo . . smh
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by seanet02: 6:40pm On Mar 10, 2011
Anybody from Yorubaland including itshekiris, kogi, edo and kwara can be the lagos governor, but Ndigbo never!!
i will even prefer a Yoruba man from Benin Republic to this Ndigbos
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by JProspero: 7:30pm On Mar 10, 2011
seanet02:

Because it is not also Possible to have a Non Igbo Deputy Governor in Ndigbo!!!
I think that is poor logic. How many Yorubas are in the South East? How many Yoruba people buy land or invest in the South East? I think it's double standards to mouth one Nigeria and yet work against it. I dont care if a Yoruba rules my home state but he must first live in my state, have his kinsmen there too, invest in the state to show that he believes in it. Nigerians who win elections in other countries dont do so from Nigeria.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by JProspero: 8:18pm On Mar 10, 2011
[quote alluthor=seanet02 link=topic=620832.msg7886271#msg7886271 date=1299778842]
Anybody from Yorubaland including itshekiris, kogi, edo and kwara can be the lagos governor, but Ndigbo never!!
i will even prefer a Yoruba man from Benin Republic to this Ndigbos
[quote][/quote] I dont get involved in this ethnic bigotry. I notice that those who display it dont usually have the liver to display it on Facebook or in face-to-face discussions. The truth is that in the long run u cant keep a people with such high population and stake away from d politics of Lagos or it will backfire on u. Astute politicians like Tinubu and Fashola, who can see far, understand this- that was why they gave Ben Akabueze and Joe Igbokwe political posts. Contrary to this falsehood people feed their kids from birth, Igbos are not trying to dominate anybody: they just want to be given a sense of belonging, since they also contribute to their place of residence. The Ijaws had been working against Igbo interest but today Jonathan banks on Igbos for votes and they will give them to him despite all the Ijaws had done to the Igbos.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by seanet02: 8:55pm On Mar 10, 2011
JProspero:

I dont get involved in this ethnic bigotry. I notice that those who display it dont usually have the liver to display it on Facebook or in face-to-face discussions. The truth is that in the long run u cant keep a people with such high population and stake away from d politics of Lagos or it will backfire on u. Astute politicians like Tinubu and Fashola, who can see far, understand this- that was why they gave Ben Akabueze and Joe Igbokwe political posts. Contrary to this falsehood people feed their kids from birth, Igbos are not trying to dominate anybody: they just want to be given a sense of belonging, since they also contribute to their place of residence. The Ijaws had been working against Igbo interest but today Jonathan banks on Igbos for votes and they will give them to him despite all the Ijaws had done to the Igbos.
What are you talking about? You see you don't know what you are talking about. So we should allow ibos to start calling the shot in YORUBA land? See me see trouble o. What sense of belonging do you want than the opportunity availed you people to build on YORUBA land and also appoint them into the cabinet? Tell me a single YORUBA man in a south eastern cabinet? You will prolly need to change this your cheating culture, so we should allow you to be the Deputy governor? Typical ibos always claiming an inch when given a metre. As for me not being able to say this Physically, dude am not a coward like ojukwu, even if ojukwu stands in my front i will knock it into his head to forget such an idea. It wont just happen.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by seanet02: 8:57pm On Mar 10, 2011
JProspero:

I dont get involved in this ethnic bigotry. I notice that those who display it dont usually have the liver to display it on Facebook or in face-to-face discussions. The truth is that in the long run u cant keep a people with such high population and stake away from d politics of Lagos or it will backfire on u. Astute politicians like Tinubu and Fashola, who can see far, understand this- that was why they gave Ben Akabueze and Joe Igbokwe political posts. Contrary to this falsehood people feed their kids from birth, Igbos are not trying to dominate anybody: they just want to be given a sense of belonging, since they also contribute to their place of residence. The Ijaws had been working against Igbo interest but today Jonathan banks on Igbos for votes and they will give them to him despite all the Ijaws had done to the Igbos.
What are you talking about? You see you don't know what you are talking about. So we should allow ibos to start calling the shot in YORUBA land? See me see trouble o. What sense of belonging do you want than the opportunity availed you people to build on YORUBA land and also appoint them into the cabinet? Tell me a single YORUBA man in a south eastern cabinet? You will prolly need to change this your cheating culture, so we should allow you to be the Deputy governor? Typical ibos always claiming an inch when given a metre. As for me not being able to say this Physically, dude am not a coward like ojukwu, even if ojukwu stands in my front i will knock it into his head to forget such an idea. It wont just happen.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by jason123: 9:46pm On Mar 10, 2011
JProspero:

I dont get involved in this ethnic bigotry. I notice that those who display it dont usually have the liver to display it on Facebook or in face-to-face discussions. The truth is that in the long run u cant keep a people with such high population and stake away from d politics of Lagos or it will backfire on u. Astute politicians like Tinubu and Fashola, who can see far, understand this- that was why they gave Ben Akabueze and Joe Igbokwe political posts. Contrary to this falsehood people feed their kids from birth, Igbos are not trying to dominate anybody: they just want to be given a sense of belonging, since they also contribute to their place of residence. The Ijaws had been working against Igbo interest but today Jonathan banks on Igbos for votes and they will give them to him despite all the Ijaws had done to the Igbos.

You are right to some extent. I really do not think its about domination, it is more like practice what you preach. I believe if a yoruba man or hausa man becomes the Governor of Enugu, most igbo will say, "they want to start ruling us because we lost a war" et al. You are right again about the giving an igbo man political appointments and all since they have contributed much to the state. But that is only the political and economic side of things what about the social aspect? Most igbos call yorubas dirty, cowards and traitors and yorubas know this things and yet they welcome them. Now tell me, why should they allow a group that hates them so much to rule them Why should they allow someone from a group that will NEVER trust the yorubas to rule them in their state?? You and I know igbos are republican in nature,so, what will it take one igbo man to have a fight with a yoruba man in a market place like oyigbo or mile 12 and starts telling the yoruba man these things (dirty, cowards etc) including a foolish statement like, "we rule you in your state"? You and I know what will happen from then on, don't we?
Moreover, it is happening gradually but making the process too fast can only result to yorubas (aworis) to buckle and react violently. That is why I was saying that it should happen gradually.

About Tinubu and Fashola,
It was the only way for them to tip the scale for the elections. It was also a good way of showing appreciation to the igbos. Now if a group like Ohaneze and Chief Uche wants to take the piss . . .we also know what will happen, don't we?
I read an article recently, when an ACN chieftain was telling Ohaneze to cool down and not push it by making "demands" in public. When I find that article, I will post it.
Now, for an ACN chieftain to say that, you can see that he is trying to avoid violence. He knows people will react, resentments will start to grow as it has already started among the tribal warriors on NL. Anyway, I hope the Ohaneze listens . . . . .and about the igbos that sometimes say the will fight back. Against who? Do they know that number of yorubas that will flock in within seconds from other state?? You also know that it will not be a fight but the opposite, especially then it was a case which they were pushed to the wall.

When I find the article, I will post it.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by JProspero: 10:04pm On Mar 10, 2011
seanet02:

What are you talking about? You see you don't know what you are talking about. So we should allow ibos to start calling the shot in YORUBA land? See me see trouble o. What sense of belonging do you want than the opportunity availed you people to build on YORUBA land and also appoint them into the cabinet? Tell me a single YORUBA man in a south eastern cabinet? You will prolly need to change this your cheating culture, so we should allow you to be the Deputy governor? Typical ibos always claiming an inch when given a metre. As for me not being able to say this Physically, dude am not a coward like ojukwu, even if ojukwu stands in my front i will knock it into his head to forget such an idea. It wont just happen.
Oga, first there is no group called IBO in Nigeria, pls. Secondly, nobody gives anybody 'opportunity' to build in any part of the world. Once u are willing to sell your piece of land, someone will be willing to buy. The reason Yorubas dont buy land in Igbo land or far North is because of fear of the unknown and lack of belief in Nigeria. Igbos are not desperate to rule Lagos. When the time comes for an Igbo to rule Lagos, it will happen just like it happened in the Obama's case. But Nig will remain a joke if we continue to spew this deep hatred, distrust, insecurity and animosity for one another. It is sad that it is even displayed in churches (and mosques) despite that the Bible says that there should be no Jews or Gentiles among brethren. It is a horrible seed sown by Awo, Zik and Bello. Thank God I never fed on it and will never feed it my kids, no matter the provocation.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by JProspero: 10:44pm On Mar 10, 2011
jason123:

You are right to some extent. I really do not think its about domination, it is more like practice what you preach. I believe if a yoruba man or hausa man becomes the Governor of Enugu, most igbo will say, "they want to start ruling us because we lost a war" et al. You are right again about the giving an igbo man political appointments and all since they have contributed much to the state. But that is only the political and economic side of things what about the social aspect? Most igbos call yorubas dirty, cowards and traitors and yorubas know this things and yet they welcome them. Now tell me, why should they allow a group that hates them so much to rule them  Why should they allow someone from a group that will NEVER trust the yorubas to rule them in their state?? You and I know igbos are republican in nature,so, what will it take one igbo man to have a fight with a yoruba man in a market place like oyigbo or mile 12 and starts telling the yoruba man these things (dirty, cowards etc) including a foolish statement like, "we rule you in your state"? You and I know what will happen from then on, don't we?
Moreover, it is happening gradually but making the process too fast can only result to yorubas (aworis) to buckle and react violently. That is why I was saying that it should happen gradually.

About Tinubu and Fashola,
It was the only way for them to tip the scale for the elections. It was also a good way of showing appreciation to the igbos. Now if a group like Ohaneze and Chief Uche wants to take the piss . . .we also know what will happen, don't we?
I read an article recently, when an ACN chieftain was telling Ohaneze to cool down and not push it by making "demands" in public. When I find that article, I will post it.
Now, for an ACN chieftain to say that, you can see that he is trying to avoid violence. He knows people will react, resentments will start to grow as it has already started among the tribal warriors on NL. Anyway, I hope the Ohaneze listens . . . . .and about the igbos that sometimes say the will fight back. Against who? Do they know that number of yorubas that will flock in within seconds from other state?? You also know that it will not be a fight but the opposite, especially then it was a case which they were pushed to the wall.

When I find the article, I will post it.

Any Igbo who calls Yorubas cowards is misinformed. Even Yorubas, including comedians, call Yorubas cowards. But having actively followed Nigerian history, I can say without a dint of doubt that no ethnic group has fought fearlessly and doggedly against injustice and dictatorship since after our Independence like the Yorubas. They are the ones that know how to face amoured tanks and go to prison when others stay home so as not to die. On Chief Uche and co, had u heard of that Uche man b4 now? Forget news seekers. No serious and sensible Igbo man will threaten Yorubas in Lagos or any part of the South west. Ohanaeze Lagos Branch is not serious - no prominent Igbo is in it. You will see solid Igbo men like Ndubuisi Kanu, Chris Eze (CHAIRMAN OF FIDELITY BANK) etc in Ndigbo Lagos and Aka Ikenga. Another point people must bear in mind is that Lagos was a former capital of Nigeria and is the current commercial capital of Nigeria and should not be viewed the way people view Akure or Abeokuta.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by jason123: 1:12am On Mar 11, 2011
JProspero:

Any Igbo who calls Yorubas cowards is misinformed. Even Yorubas, including comedians, call Yorubas cowards. But having actively followed Nigerian history, I can say without a dint of doubt that no ethnic group has fought fearlessly and doggedly against injustice and dictatorship since after our Independence like the Yorubas. They are the ones that know how to face amoured tanks and go to prison when others stay home so as not to die. On Chief Uche and co, had u heard of that Uche man b4 now? Forget news seekers. No serious and sensible Igbo man will threaten Yorubas in Lagos or any part of the South west. Ohanaeze Lagos Branch is not serious - no prominent Igbo is in it. You will see solid Igbo men like Ndubuisi Kanu, Chris Eze (CHAIRMAN OF FIDELITY BANK) etc in Ndigbo Lagos and Aka Ikenga. Another point people must bear in mind is that Lagos was a former capital of Nigeria and is the current commercial capital of Nigeria and should not be viewed the way people view Akure or Abeokuta.

Thanks for your response. You are a good person but the reality is very different. An igbo man does not need to threaten a yoruba man in Lagos before resentments starts growing, all the igbo man needs to do is to make the slightest mistake or action and it will be politicised like GEJ's "rascal" comment on the SW. It is not tribalism but the socio-political factors that come to play when the igbo man is made the Governor.
One thing is certain, an igbo man will rule Lagos one day but how it will end will be a different story all together. If you notice the SW (not only Lagos) accommodate any group regardless of ethnicity. They will treat you like one of them. But once you start getting involved in the politics and ownership of lands and settlements ( if you watch a lot of yoruba movies, it depletes it well cheesy), they start feeling insecure and that is what happened to Nnamdi Azikwe. You have heard about the Aluasa clash, haven't you? Same with the fulanis in Kwara ( although, most yorubas love them now. They (fulanis) are good people) and the fight between OPC and the Emir of Kwara. If you look at the above scenarios, you should notice something similar. Most of their "guest" (except the fulanis) take them for granted and when they react violently, they are called tribalist but can you blame them for being insecure?? I can even say that they will prefer an Benin republic man or Fulani (pure or mixed) to rule them than an igbo man, why? Some of them will prefer an igbo man to show what he can do in his own state of origin before coming to rule them. Also, during civil war (yes, I know. Not again), most of them believe Ojukwu was about annexing some of the SW states especially Lagos to Biafra and the occupation of the Mw especially Edo did not help matters, infact, it confirmed and cemented their believes (whether true or not). Coupled with other factors such as the geographical location and importance of Lagos to the SW,I think having an igbo Governor will not happen anytime soon without a fight or a "Jos" (I pray not). But no matter how far they (yorubas) push it, it is inevitable. It will still happen especially if the guy (igbo man) understands and loves the yorubas.

Secondly, I support your detribalised views and I wish many Nigerians can be like that. Hopefully when our generation passes away, our kids will not be fed with this "enimity". . . . better still, federalism will be the best option for them.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by jason123: 1:15am On Mar 11, 2011
JProspero:

Oga, first there is no group called IBO in Nigeria, pls. Secondly, nobody gives anybody 'opportunity' to build in any part of the world. Once u are willing to sell your piece of land, someone will be willing to buy. The reason Yorubas dont buy land in Igbo land or far North is because of fear of the unknown and lack of belief in Nigeria. Igbos are not desperate to rule Lagos. When the time comes for an Igbo to rule Lagos, it will happen just like it happened in the Obama's case. But Nig will remain a joke if we continue to spew this deep hatred, distrust, insecurity and animosity for one another. It is sad that it is even displayed in churches (and mosques) despite that the Bible says that there should be no Jews or Gentiles among brethren. It is a horrible seed sown by Awo, Zik and Bello. Thank God I never fed on it and will never feed it my kids, no matter the provocation.

Just to add,
Yorubas do not HATE igbos and I am sure igbos do not hate yorubas. But the different political views is what is separating them. These are just fundamental differences and cannot be taken as hatred. About Lagos, I think things should be allowed to happen naturally instead of "forcing " it.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by TNUBU4LIFE: 1:36am On Mar 11, 2011
its called testing the waters.During june12,they abandoned Lagos,now they want Lagos! IBOS=I [b]B[/b]EFORE [b]O[/b]THERS SENSE

Not even the bad rep being given to the igbos by the JJC-igbo generation in Lagos!I love the old igbo of Lagos,so so so pleasant and very proud of their relationship with their yoruba hosts in Lagos.!
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by Areosapien(m): 7:47am On Mar 11, 2011
Some idiots up in here are just so stup!d and dull, that they just can't do without tribalism for a microsecond. The poster's initial point was about picking a non-Yoruba running mate (who could actually be from anywhere, although he just used Igbo as an example), and what next do we see? A bunch of flat-skulled and narrow-minded retardos now making it entirely about Igbo. Congratulations, illiterates.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 8:16am On Mar 11, 2011
Areosapien:

Some idiots up in here are just so stup!d and dull, that they just can't do without tribalism for a microsecond. The poster's initial point was about picking a non-Yoruba running mate (who could actually be from anywhere, although he just used Igbo as an example), and what next do we see? A bunch of flat-skulled and narrow-minded retardos now making it entirely about Igbo. Congratulations, illiterates.

But you should know Nairaland by now. 80% illiterates, 10% Scammers and Marketers, 5% Religious Zeolots and 5% Sensible people (no be me talk am oooh)

Back to the Strategy of PDP Winning Lagos (It is too Late to Win Lagos)
ACN has lost a good percentage of the masses expectations of a vibrant regime (Fashola is working but he could be miles better without the 1-eyed crack-head at Bourdillon). PDP could have started early (4 years early) by sponsoring information  propaganda and enlightening the masses about the good and bad of ACN leadership (f'course people focus on the bad-sides more than the good). If they can win in the Court of Public Opinion, ACN will only have money-politics left to gain lost ground (and PDP has money to spare). PDP left it to the last minute  sad

I had initially ruled the Igbos out as a voting population that can turn the tide on any election but i am reminded each year when they (igbos) go home for Christmas - Lagos becomes a Ghost town. They are quite a huge influence on the Economic health of Lagos State, Why not Political, they are practically Lagosians (Tax-paying ones too)

Ethnic-colorization apart, an Igbo candidate for Deputy (it is a gradual process) will definitely be a fly in the ointment for ACN - it represents a new kind of social tolerance that people silently desire but are afraid to openly display due to the presence of illiterate, intolerant ethnically-biased ingrates we have in our midst.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by seanet02: 9:41am On Mar 11, 2011
lagerwhenindoubt:

But you should know Nairaland by now. 80% illiterates, 10% Scammers and Marketers, 5% Religious Zeolots and 5% Sensible people (no be me talk am oooh)

Back to the Strategy of PDP Winning Lagos (It is too Late to Win Lagos)
ACN has lost a good percentage of the masses expectations of a vibrant regime (Fashola is working but he could be miles better without the 1-eyed crack-head at Bourdillon). PDP could have started early (4 years early) by sponsoring information  propaganda and enlightening the masses about the good and bad of ACN leadership (f'course people focus on the bad-sides more than the good). If they can win in the Court of Public Opinion, ACN will only have money-politics left to gain lost ground (and PDP has money to spare). PDP left it to the last minute  sad

I had initially ruled the Igbos out as a voting population that can turn the tide on any election but i am reminded each year when they (igbos) go home for Christmas - Lagos becomes a Ghost town. They are quite a huge influence on the Economic health of Lagos State, Why not Political, they are practically Lagosians (Tax-paying ones too)

Ethnic-colorization apart, an Igbo candidate for Deputy (it is a gradual process) will definitely be a fly in the ointment for ACN - it represents a new kind of social tolerance that people silently desire but are afraid to openly display due to the presence of illiterate, intolerant ethnically-biased ingrates we have in our midst.
You will not stop your playing to the gallery route. I asked you to mention a single YORUBA man in an eastern state cabinet, you look the other side yet you want to rule Lagos abi? Come and rule and let us see. During june 12 you people ran away to your ibo land leaving the YORUBAS to face the usurpers in jackboots. My friend face the fact an ibo man or non YORUBA will never be the Governor of Lagos. It will never happen. Let everybody bears his father's name.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by seanet02: 10:02am On Mar 11, 2011
jason123:

Thanks for your response. You are a good person but the reality is very different. An igbo man does not need to threaten a yoruba man in Lagos before resentments starts growing, all the igbo man needs to do is to make the slightest mistake or action and it will be politicised like GEJ's "rascal" comment on the SW. It is not tribalism but the socio-political factors that come to play when the igbo man is made the Governor.
One thing is certain, an igbo man will rule Lagos one day but how it will end will be a different story all together. If you notice the SW (not only Lagos) accommodate any group regardless of ethnicity. They will treat you like one of them. But once you start getting involved in the politics and ownership of lands and settlements ( if you watch a lot of yoruba movies, it depletes it well cheesy), they start feeling insecure and that is what happened to Nnamdi Azikwe. You have heard about the Aluasa clash, haven't you? Same with the fulanis in Kwara ( although, most yorubas love them now. They (fulanis) are good people) and the fight between OPC and the Emir of Kwara. If you look at the above scenarios, you should notice something similar. Most of their "guest" (except the fulanis) take them for granted and when they react violently, they are called tribalist but can you blame them for being insecure?? I can even say that they will prefer an Benin republic man or Fulani (pure or mixed) to rule them than an igbo man, why? Some of them will prefer an igbo man to show what he can do in his own state of origin before coming to rule them. Also, during civil war (yes, I know. Not again), most of them believe Ojukwu was about annexing some of the SW states especially Lagos to Biafra and the occupation of the Mw especially Edo did not help matters, infact, it confirmed and cemented their believes (whether true or not). Coupled with other factors such as the geographical location and importance of Lagos to the SW,I think having an igbo Governor will not happen anytime soon without a fight or a "Jos" (I pray not). But no matter how far they (yorubas) push it, it is inevitable. It will still happen especially if the guy (igbo man) understands and loves the yorubas.

Secondly, I support your detribalised views and I wish many Nigerians can be like that. Hopefully when our generation passes away, our kids will not be fed with this "enimity". . . . better still, federalism will be the best option for them.
And am still waiting for the day inec will announce an ibo man as Lagos governor. My friend either you don's know what you are saying or you just being sarcastic. Ibo man will never be the Governor of Lagos. This people are taking our civility for granted. No wonder the hausas will butcher them at the slightest provocation. Give them a plot of land and they will start claiming an hectare. Freaking bunch of bloody mofos.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by JProspero: 10:03am On Mar 11, 2011
PDP in Lagos is dumb. How can someone be telling Lagosians that Fashola is not performing? Esp when PDP is not doing better at the national level. The weakest link in ACN is Tinubu, the strongest link in ACN is also Tinubu. PDP should be hitting at Fashola as a stooge of Tinubu who has allowed Tinubu to pocket Lagos. There are so many bad things to bring up about Tinubu, and put fear in d minds of voters about voting ACN in future (not in this year's election). I dont think Bode George is half as corrupt as Tinubu. It is obvious he was the one Jonathan was referring as rascal. D man stopped Mamora from d Senate because he refused to accept to contest against Fashola when he wanted to drop Fashola because he was becoming popular and was not giving him 100% access to the state's treasury. He converted Lagos Poly premises to his own where his TV and radio stations (TVC and Radio Continental) are based. There are many things. I dont think Ibori stole more than him.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 12:34pm On Mar 11, 2011
seanet02:

And am still waiting for the day inec will announce an ibo man as Lagos governor. My friend either you don's know what you are saying or you just being sarcastic. Ibo man will never be the Governor of Lagos. This people are taking our civility for granted. No wonder the hausas will butcher them at the slightest provocation. Give them a plot of land and they will start claiming an hectare. Freaking bunch of bloody mofos.

Well if we are looking at facts then you are right but there is such a thing as an ideal situation. I happen to be yoruba  however the concept or idea is not to wait until easterners begin to show that they are de-tribalized but to show that your region is ready to appoint the best regardless the tribe or language. Lagos is a region of many ethnic groups that even rival the yoruba population in size and economic clout. why not engage such groups in the polity of the state?
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by gernded(m): 12:59pm On Mar 11, 2011
Dear Readers,

I MUST PUT IT TO YOU ALL THAT IS VERY EASY FOR PDP TO WIN LAGOS IN A LANDSLIDE VICTORY WITHOUT AN EYEBROW.

BUT LACK OF COORDINATED CAMPAIGN MANAGERS HAVE ELUDED LAGOS FROM PDP WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPEN IN 2003 .

BUT FROM WHAT I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW POLITICS THEY BELIEVE THE IS BEEN DISCUSS IN THERE PUBLIC YARDS AND VENDOR STAND, MY PEOPLE I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT .

(1)GOVERNANCE IS DIFFERENCE FROM THE WAY WE SEE IT OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT.
(2)AND ELECTION CANNOT BE WON IN THE MEDIA BUT THROUGH PEOPLES VOTES.
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by Ben13: 1:08pm On Mar 11, 2011
what a thread. .
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 1:51pm On Mar 11, 2011
gernded:

Dear Readers,

I MUST PUT IT TO YOU ALL THAT IS VERY EASY FOR PDP TO WIN LAGOS IN A LANDSLIDE VICTORY WITHOUT AN EYEBROW.

BUT LACK OF COORDINATED CAMPAIGN MANAGERS HAVE ELUDED LAGOS FROM PDP WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPEN IN 2003 .

BUT FROM WHAT I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW POLITICS THEY BELIEVE THE IS BEEN DISCUSS IN THERE PUBLIC YARDS AND VENDOR STAND, MY PEOPLE I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT .

(1)GOVERNANCE IS DIFFERENCE FROM THE WAY WE SEE IT OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT.
(2)AND ELECTION CANNOT BE WON IN THE MEDIA BUT THROUGH PEOPLES VOTES.

grin   grin  grin

1: That must mean ACN has better coordinated Campaign Managers for a party that does not hold a congress before primaries and impose candidates instead of electing them. Guy, Since 2003 a Party like PDP cannot get better coordinated campaign managers ? Waoow! just waoow
2: You are right about your second point but your 3rd (A,B) just killed it on arrival. A lot of people are arm-chair political analysts and believe their personal opinion is the general consensus.
3: How do you see Governance outside Government kindly enlighten us. (that point really "weireded" me out)
4: Electioneering is all about Media and Publicity Campaigns! It is what brings your Political Agenda to the People, Voting on the other hand is the End-result of your Election Media and Publicity Campaign, here is the kicker? The Voting process for the forth-coming elections is already looking tainted with accusations of double-registrations, unverified registrants, manual voters register, bribing of INEC officials etc. While this is true for a Transparent Election, We have seen that in Nigeria, The people's votes can be stolen (very easily i might add)
Re: How Pdp Can Win Lagos by Nobody: 2:06pm On Mar 11, 2011
By rigging of course !! shocked

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