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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by bigcasava1(m): 8:27am On Dec 20, 2020 |
masterP042:am a winner and am blessed by the grace of God that is upon him. The more your type gets frustrated over his blessings the more God is enlarging his territory, his a man after God's own heart. |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by luluosas(m): 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Oyedepo, if you steal from the people, wait for God's wrath on your head 4 Likes |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Ayotemide:Eyahhh, do you know why people are less religious in the west Ans: The system meets 90% of their prayer point! I pray the good LORD opens ur eyes and see how yah been brainwashed, if this covid period does not make yah wise then it is finished! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Youngzedd(m): 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Ayotemide: News: Poor Nigerians Will Reach 100 Million By 2022 - World Bank >> https://punchng.com/poor-nigerians-will-reach-100-million-by-2022-world-bank/ Lets do the maths. If about 51% of the population are living in extreme poverty, that's about 105M people. Now we currently have 90M poor people making it total of 195M. Mind you, Nigeria population is about 205M. 205M - 195M = 10M. So we currently have about 10M people who fall under both middle and upper class category. So all this religious bullshit. See eeh, if I hear that tithe, first fruit and sowing of okra seed works, I will tear you hot slap wey go generate 2HP. So with all our religious activities, the nation keep sinking into poverty. You're poor because you elected ldiots in power. You're not poor because you're not worship or serving God enough. You're poor because the people you voted in are looting away your future. Nigeria poverty rate got absolutely nothing to do with serving God. It is man made and it's left for you to hold your leaders accountable. Stop allowing religious leaders to fool you. Last bullet: If you're making or earning less than 300,000 NGN per month in Nigeria of today, you're poor. Maybe you check your dictionary or the web who a middle class truly is. Una mumu never do. Deuteronomy 14:22-29 22 “You must set aside a tithe of your crops—one-tenth of all the crops you harvest each year. 23 Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the Lord your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. Doing this will teach you always to fear the Lord your God. 24 “Now when the Lord your God blesses you with a good harvest, the place of worship he chooses for his name to be honored might be too far for you to bring the tithe. 25 If so, you may sell the tithe portion of your crops and herds, put the money in a pouch, and go to the place the Lord your God has chosen. 26 When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want—cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the Lord your God and celebrate with your household. 27 And do not neglect the Levites in your town, for they will receive no allotment of land among you. 28 “At the end of every third year, bring the entire tithe of that year’s harvest and store it in the nearest town. 29 Give it to the Levites, who will receive no allotment of land among you, as well as to the foreigners living among you, the orphans, and the widows in your towns, so they can eat and be satisfied. Then the Lord your God will bless you in all your work. TITHING DEMYSTIFIED OLD COVENANT There are 3 types of tithing. 1) Tithe of the feast: This tithe is for your consumption and you do it every first and second year. Deuteronomy 14:22-26 explains it all. 2) Levitcal tithe: This tithe is what you give to the Levite (only to the descendants of Jacob’s son Levi) in the third year after you have eaten your tithe in the first and second year. Deuteronomy 14:28-29, Deuteronomy 26:12 and Numbers 18:21- 25 explains it all. The strict condition here is that you must be the bloodline of Levi to collect tithe. No body else on earth is qualified to collect this tithe apart from those who have the blood of Jacob's son Levi running through their veins. Any other person who collect this is either a criminal or ignorant. 3) Tithe to the needy: In the third year after you have previously eaten your tithe in the first and second year, you're to give the tithe of the third year to the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows. Levitcal tithe and tithe to the poor is for the third year, that's to say, you share it between the Levites, foreigners, fatherless and widows. It is only meant for this four set of people. What about Malachi 3:8-10? Well, God was talking to the Levites and not the Israelites who bring the tithe. Among the Levites, there's a high priest who enters the holiest of holy. Read from Malachi 2:1 to see that God was talking to the Priests (Levites). The priests (Levites) were playing smart on the tithe they collect from the Israelites. THE STORE HOUSE The Levites (priests) were to take out 10% of the tithe they collect from the Israelites and keep in the store house, Numbers 18:25 - 29 explains it, but they stopped doing it, they started making smart move on it and God was angry with them. They were misbehaving with the tithes they collected, the book of Nehemiah 13:4 - 13 explains it. NEW COVENANT In the new covenant, you as a believer is the church (house of Yahuah/God) not a building (2 Corinthians 5:1, Acts 17:24, Acts 7:48, Matthew 24:1-2 and John 4:21-24) and a priest while Yahushua (Christ) is the high priest (Read Hebrew 7). Because you as a believer is the church, there's no physical store house or temple, you are now the spiritual temple God dwell in, if you are the temple they use to bring their tithes to, then it's you that will consume the tithe not a Pastor or Priest. In the entire new testament, there's no place Christ or the believers preached, received or collected tithe. Think for a minute, if the new testament is the Christian manual, why is tithing not there and what does that tell you? C'mon, tithing and first fruit have no place in Christianity. It is what it is. Tithing is excepting yourself from the sacrifice of Christ on the cross. In the new covenant, the law was fulfilled by Christ and we are no longer under the law. After resurrection of Christ, the law became weak and useless as seen in the Hebrew 7:8-19. Hebrews 7:18-19 18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. Galatians 3:19-20 Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator,however, implies more than one party; but God is one. . * Christ is the seed been referred to here. Colossians 2:17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. . The 613 laws are shadows until Christ came. Christ fulfilled the law, done and dusted, chapter closed forever. That's why it's now weak and useless. Hebrews 7:12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also. . Hebrew 8 vs 13 "By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear." Romans 7:6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. Galatians 3:10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” * If you're to obey the laws in the old testament to be right with God, you're to obey ALL the 613 laws otherwise you're under a curse. Tithing to fulfil what's written in the book of law attracts a curse. Stop tithing, you're bringing a curse to yourself. James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. Galatians 2:21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” Hebrews 10:9-10 9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Christ once for all. . . He set aside OLD COVENANT found in the old testament to establish the NEW COVENANT found in the new testament. . 2 Corinthians 3:6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. . * The letter here is the old covenants (laws) while the spirit is the new covenant. Read the whole chapter for better understanding. Please brothers and sisters, do yourself a favour and read the whole of 2 Corinthians 3. Verse 14 "But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away." is exactly what is happening in Christianity today. The minds of many were made dull. Never allow any man born of flesh push you to do the things that are now weak and useless. If Christ and the early Christians didn't do it, I tell you today, don't do it no matter the pressure. The new testament scriptures are Christian manual, anything not found there shouldn't be a doctrine. I still remain the son of the TRUTH. 3 Likes |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by hardbody: 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020 |
AdakaBoro8: Well said. Tithing was for the Levites to provide for their upkeep since in the entire tribe of 12, they alone were not allowed to work. Upon the coming of Jesus, there was no more tithing. Judaism allowed people to still make contributions which was why the widow dropped her mite and Jesus even said when you are donating let it be known only to you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Nobody: 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020 |
AntiChristian:I agree However on judgement day God would be the judge himself |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by hollywater: 8:29am On Dec 20, 2020 |
I wonder what the Pastor's will then risk. |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by abidem4real: 8:30am On Dec 20, 2020 |
daveobasi1:Which God's wrath? Does God know fake stealing pastors? Or can God they're not truly serving be fighting for them? Let the topic be changed jare |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:30am On Dec 20, 2020 |
bigcasava1:and the rest of yah live in sh***t holes damn bro damn yah give ur monies to the poor and less privileged, I think there is more blessing to that plus it makes more sense! 2 Likes |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:31am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Mikehot:This is the thing people get twisted with, Judgement DAY is NOW!!! |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:33am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Youngzedd:It said crop, not money, or do you think there was no money back in the days and the monies were meant for the levites, the Levites are a tribe of Isreal who still survive today.Bro leave them ohhhh their mumuness never DO 1 Like |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Nobody: 8:33am On Dec 20, 2020 |
erico2k2:No judgement day is not now. You didn't create human neither do you have the power to judge what the account the gave with their lives |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:35am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Mikehot:Bro Im telling you judgement day is here,let me tell you ! check the world around you! |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by sulasa07(m): 8:37am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Nobody: 8:40am On Dec 20, 2020 |
erico2k2:I don't know the judgement day you talking about but am referring to the one given to each soul either heaven or hell externally |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by jpmoriarti(m): 8:41am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Ayotemide:You deluded, sis. No where in the bible Christ said your blessing on earth is tied to tithes and offering. Read your bible and follow the examples of Christ only. 1 Like |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Youngzedd(m): 8:41am On Dec 20, 2020 |
erico2k2: Abraham bought a land used to bury his wife with money in Genesis 23 |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Tilykay(m): 8:42am On Dec 20, 2020 |
charlesucheh: The Lord gives the wicked grace. So they live long and repent. |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:43am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Youngzedd:Exactly so there was Money, Imagine if people take yam and plantain to church, it would be much more rewarding 9ja pastors have bodyguards, churchgoers pray to God for protection! and they are not the wiser they are being scammed! 3 Likes |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Cooldude90: 8:45am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Wenaxtrade: Lol Another one 1 Like |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by bbode1(m): 8:46am On Dec 20, 2020 |
masterP042:A Christian will understand that tithe and offering are the commandment if God. It's written in the old testament that we should bring all tithe into the Lord house so that there be meat in his house. Tithe and offering are for church growth and also for the payment of pastor welfare. What so ever they do with it is not our business. Ours is to do as commanded by God. And oyedepo as fulfilled that purpose. He recently recruited our 4000pastors plus the thousands already on payroll. He his currently starting the building if over 9000 churches worldwide. It's written in the scriptures. He who seek first into the kingdom of God. All other things shall be added into him. |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Nobody: 8:58am On Dec 20, 2020 |
hashtagged: humans are wired to give more to the rich than than to give to the poor. i don't know where this ideology came from. |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by jaxxy(m): 9:01am On Dec 20, 2020 |
post=97248434: Did Judas not steal? Was he not a disciple?? So why will sm1 say it’s impossible for a pastor to steal?? It happens and some worship mammon. It’s not an insult it’s facts from observation. 1 Like |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Oshokalo: 9:02am On Dec 20, 2020 |
na all this one them dey use scared people,missionary who brought Christianity to Nigeria didn't do all this |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Jetrue3oo: 9:03am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Oyedepo you're a mighty liar say na the God wey you no knw ni idiot pastor |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by BluntTheApostle(m): 9:06am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Ayotemide: The prosperity theology has messed up your Christian life? First of all, what is kingdom advancement project? |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Starzo: 9:07am On Dec 20, 2020 |
MJBOLT:stop spreading lies. Jesus said only it would be difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God and not impossible |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Stewart883(m): 9:07am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Alexaonfleek: Please tell your pastor for me that I need money |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Stewart883(m): 9:09am On Dec 20, 2020 |
bigcasava1: Okay I have heard you since you are blessed according to you, What I will advise you is that when you see anyone in need don't hesitate to help.... |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Starzo: 9:11am On Dec 20, 2020 |
AdakaBoro8:Jesus paid tax. Why do u guys love very spreading lies see? |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by dazzlingd(m): 9:11am On Dec 20, 2020 |
This old bald headed thief will do anything to keep his business booming |
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Hassanmaye(m): 9:12am On Dec 20, 2020 |
Fahdiga:Lol |
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