You all hate hate homosexuals but the real truth is that you're all just too scared to admit your dear God is not perfect.
Humans were designed to be two genders: male and female and the were made to feel attracted to the themselves. Anything other than that is an ' error' on the pargof our creators.

Don't blame homosexuals, blame God(jehovah, yahweh, Allah, etc).

The5DME:
You all hate hate homosexuals but the real truth is that you're all just too scared to admit your dear God is not perfect.
Humans were designed to be two genders: male and female and the were made to feel attracted to the themselves. Anything other than that is an ' error' on the pargof our creators.

Don't blame homosexuals, blame God(jehovah, yahweh, Allah, etc).

God's arrangement for sexual relation is strictly between a male and a female.
The question should be: Is God to be blamed for Giving is creature freewill? To choose whatever they want.
They may decide to follow God's standard for sexual relation or not. Humans are intelligent creatures with freewill, they're not programmed as Robot to follow God's standard.

Not Just Homosexuality.
God's word condemns bestiality but people practice.
Their comments is the same, they feel attracted to these things .

Genuine Christains don't hate Homosexual people btw, it's homosexual conducts they condemn!

We have free will to make choice just the way God created us, but we may certainly harm ourselves if we behave any how will like just because we have free will.

A perfect example is Satan, just because angels are also created with free will, he decided to rebel against God.
God word says there is a way that always seems right to a man but at the end to it death. There also sorrow, pain etc
He also said I place before you death and life, but choose life that you may live. That means he want the best for you.
The reason why the world is full of evil today is because of the choice some people make and sometimes enforced by demons.

Just like a father acting as a guide over a baby, left alone for the child , he will he play and fall into fire, well, electricity, sharp objects, etc in the name of free choice, which may lead to the baby death.

Seriously, what is the joy in a man to man sex? Does it make sense? I encourage anyone into it stop and seek for help quickly because it is not a good choice and not normal

The5DME:
You all hate hate homosexuals

Smh sigh. What a lopsided way to start a post

The5DME:
[s]but the real truth is that you're all just too scared to admit your dear God is not perfect[/s].

"You, therefore, will be perfect
[growing into spiritual maturity both in mind and character, actively integrating godly values into your daily life],
as your heavenly Father is perfect."
- Matthew 5:48

Smh sigh again at the spiritually bereft, crass ignorance comment publicly made here

The5DME:
Humans were designed to be two genders: male and female and the were made to feel attracted to the themselves. Anything other than that is an ' error' on the pargof our creators.

Adam & Eve, Adam & Steve and even Madam & Eve are each and all made to feel attracted to themselves.

There is nothing like "Anything other than that is an ' error' on the pargof our creators" sic

The5DME:
Don't blame homosexuals, blame God (jehovah, yahweh, Allah, etc).

What specifically is it or what specifically is there, to want to blame homosexuals for or even blame God about, hmm?

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haddeylium:
God's arrangement for sexual relation is strictly between a male and a female.

If you provide reference you are basing your premise that "God's arrangement for sexual relation is strictly between a male and a female" sic on, I bet that the reference is talking about another arrangement other than sexual relationship

haddeylium:
[s]The question should be:
Is God to be blamed for Giving is creature freewill? To choose whatever they want.
They may decide to follow God's standard for sexual relation or not. Humans are intelligent creatures with freewill, they're not programmed as Robot to follow God's standard.[/s]

You are mining a straw man here

haddeylium:
Not Just Homosexuality.
God's word condemns bestiality but people practice.
Their comments is the same, they feel attracted to these things.

Quit comparing apples with oranges jor because homosexuality is not in the same category or league with bestiality.

The practices, comments and attractions are not the same. The former is always a practice, comment and attraction between two easy going, innocent, harmless, ordinary consenting God believing adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful to each other, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, loving each other, while the latter (i.e. bestiality) always is a practice, comment and attraction between a confused human being and an animal

haddeylium:
Genuine Christains don't hate Homosexual people btw, it's homosexual conducts they condemn!

1/ What specifically of the homosexual conducts, do "Genuine Christains" sic and your very humble self condemn?
2/ List specifically what is/are the evil in homosexual conduct(s) that "Genuine Christains" sic and your very humble self condemn?

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It's utterly foolish to blame God for the foolish decision man made not to remain perfect as God made him to be, and hence spoil the perfect work that the Perfect One had done in beginning.

Genesis 1:27 (KJV)

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 1:31 (KJV)

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

God bless.

Fredmatic:
We have free will to make choice just the way God created us, but we may certainly harm ourselves if we behave any how will like just because we have free will.

A perfect example is Satan, just because angels are also created with free will, he decided to rebel against God.
God word says there is a way that always seems right to a man but at the end to it death. There also sorrow, pain etc
He also said I place before you death and life, but choose life that you may live. That means he want the best for you.
The reason why the world is full of evil today is because of the choice some people make and sometimes enforced by demons.

Just like a father acting as a guide over a baby, left alone for the child , he will he play and fall into fire, well, electricity, sharp objects, etc in the name of free choice, which may lead to the baby death.
Seriously, what is the joy in a man to man sex? Does it make sense?

You'll be surprised to know that many gay men consider the joy in a man to man sex, to be so clearly superior to the “dullness” of heterosexuality sex. This to a homosexual, is what make sense die to him/her

Fredmatic:
I encourage anyone into it stop and seek for help quickly because it is not a good choice and not normal

It is only a religious fundamentalist that will discourage the unconditional love act and sexual attraction between two easy going, innocent, harmless, ordinary consenting God believing adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful to each other, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, loving each other

Perfection is not to be evaluated by the choices the creatures makes but their ability to feel love and hatred, emotions and neglect, empathy and apathy. That's what makes us differ from none intelligent creatures living on instinct not choices!
Forceful mating happens among animals but such is called rape in the midst of humans, unintelligent creatures hunt one another for food but it's called murder and cannibalism in the human society, bullying is animalistic but it's offensive in the human society.
So it's the ability to think and follow God's standard that makes us differ from animals, any human who feels attracted to the same sex needs reorientation not hatred. But when such a person feels he/she is normal then those who still have the sensibility of God's standard will keep a distance, just as we will do in the case of bestialists and other sex perverts!

MaxInDHouse:
Perfection is not to be evaluated by the choices the creatures makes but their ability to feel love and hatred, emotions and neglect, empathy and apathy. That's what makes us differ from none intelligent creatures living on instinct not choices!
Forceful mating happens among animals but such is called rape in the midst of humans, unintelligent creatures hunt one another for food but it's called murder and cannibalism in the human society, bullying is animalistic but it's offensive in the human society.
So it's the ability to think and follow God's standard that makes us differ from animals, any human who feels attracted to the same sex needs reorientation not hatred. But when such a person feels he/she is normal then those who still have the sensibility of God's standard will keep a distance, just as we will do in the case of bestialists and other sex perverts!

God's standard for procreation is Adam and Eve, while God's standard for relationship and unconditional love aka Agape love is Adam & Eve, Adam & Steve and Madam & Eve.

There is nothing evil, abnormal and/or unnatural in the loving, faithful, committed, affectionate, loyal to another until death part them relationship of an Adam & Steve or a Madam & Eve, as there, equally, is nothing evil, abnormal and/or unnatural in an Adam & Eve relationship that is fostered in an environment and atmosphere, that is a loving, faithful, committed, affectionate, loyal to another until death part them relationship.

Love, is no respecter of gender, lmso, which is why love is the reason for marriage. Marriage isn't about gender nor procreation, lmso. It is about the exchanging of love, lmso. Sometimes, the person that you truly meant to love, to fall in love with, will come into your life, in the strangest, most unexpected way and even in certain peculiar cases, in an unanticipated gender or sex, lmso

Go preaching and teaching what your God taught you in your neighbourhood, i'm doing just that for my own God Sir!

MuttleyLaff:
God's standard for procreation is Adam and Eve, while God's standard for relationship and unconditional love aka Agape love is Adam & Eve, Adam & Steve and Madam & Eve.

There is nothing evil, abnormal and/or unnatural in the loving, faithful, committed, affectionate, loyal to another until death part them relationship of an Adam & Steve or a Madam & Eve, as there, equally, is nothing evil, abnormal and/or unnatural in an Adam & Eve relationship that is fostered in an environment and atmosphere, that is a loving, faithful, committed, affectionate, loyal to another until death part them relationship.

Love, is no respecter of gender, lmso, which is why love is the reason for marriage. Marriage isn't about gender nor procreation, lmso. It is about the exchanging of love, lmso. Sometimes, the person that you truly meant to love, to fall in love with, will come into your life, in the strangest, most unexpected way and even in certain peculiar cases, in an unanticipated gender or sex, lmso

The5DME:
You all hate hate homosexuals but the real truth is that you're all just too scared to admit your dear God is not perfect.
Humans were designed to be two genders: male and female and the were made to feel attracted to the themselves. Anything other than that is an ' error' on the pargof our creators.

Don't blame homosexuals, blame God(jehovah, yahweh, Allah, etc).

Do you think men anus was designed for penetration.. Or do you think the female vagina was designed to be rubbing against each other. Everybody understands that penis was supposed to go inside a vagina. There is nothing like born homosexuals. Though it's a desire people feel inclined to. That's the same excuse pedophiles give. In hundred years, incest, pedophilia is probably gonna be accepted with (we were born that way)

MaxInDHouse:
Go preaching and teaching what your God taught you in your neighbourhood, i'm doing just that for my own God Sir!

I am not preaching, neither am I teaching.
All I did, was merely to place a straight stick alongside the crooked stick you laid down on the ground and that's my lot and work done, lmso

The5DME:
You all hate hate homosexuals but the real truth is that you're all just too scared to admit your dear God is not perfect.
Humans were designed to be two genders: male and female and the were made to feel attracted to the themselves. Anything other than that is an ' error' on the pargof our creators.

Don't blame homosexuals, blame God(jehovah, yahweh, Allah, etc).

1. one might hate the act but certainly not the actors. I don't hate homosexuals but I dislike the act, simple.

2. God don't do mistake, most people choose their part in life and you know environment, parenting, peers etc play vital roles in shaping people's life and what they become because most of us stubbornly(intentionally and unintentionally) refused to follow God or his ways. so becoming a homosexual has nothing to do with God.

Theguided:
Do you think men anus was designed for penetration.

Though the anus is designed to hold in faeces, it for some peculiar few is used a tool for having intimacy and sexual pleasure

Theguided:
Or do you think the female vagina was designed to be rubbing against each other.

If the the female vagina weren't designed to be rubbing against each other, then why isnt it abrasive, when they are rubbed against each other then

Why do you think female vaginas are used to rub against each other for?

Theguided:
Everybody understands that penis was supposed to go inside a vagina. There is nothing like born homosexuals. Though it's a desire people feel inclined to. That's the same excuse pedophiles give. In hundred years, incest, pedophilia is probably gonna be accepted with (we were born that way)

Everybody understands that penis goes inside a vagina, and even fits to go inside hands, anuses and whatnot

The desire people feel inclined to, is to be left alone to so they can in peace love their partners and be loved back in return by same.

It is only an evil, wicked, twisted and uncompassionate personality that would put careful, committed to one partner, responsible and God fearing homosexual in the same category as paedophiles, a person who is sexually attracted to children

culf:
1. one might hate the act but certainly not the actors. I don't hate homosexuals but I dislike the act, simple.

What specifically is it, you dislike in the act?

culf:
2. God don't do mistake, most people choose their part in life and you know environment, parenting, peers etc play vital roles in shaping people's life and what they become because most of us stubbornly(intentionally and unintentionally) refused to follow God or his ways. so becoming a homosexual has nothing to do with God.

You got that right about God don't do mistakes. Well done

God's way, God's expectation, God's plan, et cetera, is that everyone should love and be loved in return

Thanks for setting matters straight, interested followers of the thread are learning from your comments as your stick is straight Sir!

MuttleyLaff:

I am not preaching, neither am I teaching.
All I did, was merely to place a straight stick alongside the crooked stick you laid down on the ground and that's my lot and work done, lmso

haddeylium:


God's arrangement for sexual relation is strictly between a male and a female.
The question should be: Is God to be blamed for Giving is creature freewill? To choose whatever they want.
They may decide to follow God's standard for sexual relation or not. Humans are intelligent creatures with freewill, they're not programmed as Robot to follow God's standard.

Not Just Homosexuality.
God's word condemns bestiality but people practice.
Their comments is the same, they feel attracted to these things .

Genuine Christains don't hate Homosexual people btw, it's homosexual conducts they condemn!

What of people who grew up knowing they were attracted to the opposite sex. As a child i used to think homosexuality was an oyibo thing but there are homosexuals in Nigeria who were never abused. They just feel attracted to the opposite sex.

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for setting matters straight, interested followers of the thread are learning from your comments as your stick is straight Sir!

You are typical of JW, using crooked stick(s) to draw straight line(s). Smh at you.

What will you do if you discover such trait in your own son or daughter?
Go and do the same for neighbours who have such traits after all you should love your neighbour as yourself!

Phraences:

What of people who grew up knowing they were attracted to the opposite sex. As a child i used to think homosexuality was an oyibo thing but there are homosexuals in Nigeria who were never abused. They just feel attracted to the opposite sex.

Please leave that for other followers to conclude on what to do, i'm cool with my submission and i think you too should be cool with yours.
Our presentation is for other followers of the thread i shouldn't pester you to agree with me neither should you pester me, our presentation is enough Sir!

MuttleyLaff:
You are typical of JW, using crooked sticks to draw straight lines. Smh at you.

Phraences:
What of people who grew up knowing they were attracted to the opposite sex. As a child i used to think homosexuality was an oyibo thing but there are homosexuals in Nigeria who were never abused. They just feel attracted to the opposite sex.

Homosexuality is aboriginal. Africans before the arrival of the colonists, missionaries, Portuguese slave trader et cetera, practised a perverse, disgusting, detestable, loathsome form of homosexuality

MaxInDHouse:
Please leave that for other followers to conclude on what to do, i'm cool with my submission and i think you too should be cool with yours.
Our presentation is for other followers of the thread i shouldn't pester you to agree with me neither should you pester me, our presentation is enough Sir!

If you are cool with your crooked submission, then why are you rattled by me placing a straight submission alongside your crooked one, lmso

I am happy you are reinforcing my point for me, by re-echoing my earlier point that "[i]if a crooked stick is before you, and you need not explain how crooked it is. Lay a straight one down by the side of it, and the work is well done[/I]"

One who stands straight does not worry about a crooked shadow, lmso. Stay focused in your lane and dont because someone lay stick against yours, worry about anyone agreeing with you or not

You can perfectly lay down your stick without quoting me Sir!
Every follower can correlate and reshuffle the comments on their own, note that i never quote anyone not even the OP, deliberately quoting someone means you're disturbed by that one's submission Sir!

MuttleyLaff:
If you are cool with your crooked submission, then why are you rattled by me placing a straight submission alongside your crooked one, lmso

I am happy you are reinforcing my point for me, by re-echoing my earlier point that "[i]if a crooked stick is before you, and you need not explain how crooked it is. Lay a straight one down by the side of it, and the work is well done[/I]"

One who stands straight does not worry about a crooked shadow, lmso. Stay focused in your lane and dont because someone lay stick against yours, worry about anyone agreeing with you or not

The5Dme, I understand what you mean by God not being perfect seeing people could be born with sexuality oddities.

The problem lies in people viewing life from the wrong perspective. It will interest you to know that the people responsible for our physical bodies (which people in the past called God's) as it appears now are not God. They are advanced people in appearance, intellect and so on from another planets and are actually fellow Souls as us.


Our pastors do not have enough data to work with the statement "Let US make man in our image and likeness...", So they interpreted that scripture as God speaking to his Trinity parties or so. The missing data in religion today is actually the reality of everyone having lived before.

Each Soul has a Mind that shapes it's physical appearance. Mind includes the intellect (conscious and subconscious) emotions and physical body. To cut a long story short: if Mind is focused on beautiful thoughts and actions, the mind in another incarnation and even the present will come out beautiful, spotless and clean. You can take it from here.

If Mind and another Mind have a karmic issue to settle that bothers on severe correctional karmic conditions, they could even come back here sharing same bodies.

An over-girlie or masculine Mind may still cary-over that trait to an opposite body in another lifetime and they would be referred to as a gay or lesbian. This same condition is responsible for people born without limbs, poor, rich and so on. It's all from Mind and Past Lives. Past life's is what determines destiny or fate.

There is no such thing as Sin! Only Karma! Everybody is responsible for their condition. You boyfriend or husband most likely was your mum or dad in a past life. All females had been males before and vice versa.

Soul is neither male nor female. The Mind is.

Cheers!

Phraences:


What of people who grew up knowing they were attracted to the opposite sex. As a child i used to think homosexuality was an oyibo thing but there are homosexuals in Nigeria who were never abused. They just feel attracted to the opposite sex.

God's word does not actually speak on the biology of it. Some people may claimed they're born that way.

God's moral standard doesn't change on this " Sexual relation is between a Male and Female.

With the free-will God gave us, People have the liberty to act on this improper sexual impulses or excercise self control.

And it's the same standard God have for homosexuals and Heterosexuals is to flee from Sexual immorality

If those that are attracted to same-sex or opposite sex wants to please God. They will follow his laws in regards

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for setting matters straight, interested followers of the thread are learning from your comments as your stick is straight Sir!

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MaxInDHouse:
You can perfectly lay down your stick without quoting me Sir!
Every follower can correlate and reshuffle the comments on their own, note that i never quote anyone not even the OP, deliberately quoting someone means you're disturbed by that one's submission Sir!

You are not going to be allowed to get away from committing murder and laying down crooked sticks on the ground or drawing straight lines with crooked sticks.

You are being quoted for sake of setting matters straight because, as you rightly put it, interested followers of the thread are learning from the comment and counter comments submitted, lmso

Phraences:
What of people who grew up knowing they were attracted to the opposite sex. As a child i used to think homosexuality was an oyibo thing but there are homosexuals in Nigeria who were never abused. They just feel attracted to the opposite sex.

haddeylium:
God's word does not actually speak on the biology of it. Some people may claimed they're born that way.

God's moral standard doesn't change on this " Sexual relation is between a Male and Female.

With the free-will God gave us, People have the liberty to act on this improper sexual impulses or excercise self control.

And it's the same standard God have for homosexuals and Heterosexuals is to from Sexual immorality

If those that are attracted to same-sex or opposite sex wants to please God. They will follow his laws in regards

"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
- Galatians 3:28

Procreation, is between a Male and Female. Sexual relation and/or sexual pleasure is between a Male and Female, between a Male and Male or even between a Female and Female

Sexual immorality, is association with infidelity, promiscuity, adultery, fornication, extramarital affairs, cheating, sowing wild oats, pagan sexual ritual practices, temple prostitutions et cetera

If those that are attracted to same-sex or opposite sex wants to please God, then they should love because God is love. God is the epitome of love, lmso

Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love (i.e. 1 Corinthians 13:13)

MuttleyLaff:
<sub>f you provide reference you are basing your premise that "God's arrangement for sexual relation is strictly between a male and a female" sic on, I bet that the reference is talking about another arrangement other than sexual relationship

You are mining a straw man here

Quit comparing apples with oranges jor because homosexuality is not in the same category or league with bestiality.

The practices, comments and attractions are not the same.[/b]The former is always a practice, comment and attraction between two easy going, innocent, harmless, ordinary consenting God believing adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful to each other, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, loving each other, while the latter (i.e. bestiality) [b]always is a practice, comment and attraction between a confused human being and an animal
1/ What specifically of the homosexual conducts, do "Genuine Christains" sic and your very humble self condemn?
2/ List specifically what is/are the evil in homosexual conduct(s) that "Genuine Christains" sic and your very humble self condemn?</sub>

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What makes you think People that are attracted are confused?
What if both creature are happy, harmless,love each other and enjoy each other company ? ( With the rest of your stories)

God's word said
Leviticus 18;

22Thou(Male) shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast(Animal)

God's word said Sexual relation between the same sex is not allowed and with Animal.
But someone you think those that disregard his laws on Verse 23 are confused humans ...Why?

You see how the picture you attached exposed your ignorance.
That God's condemn some sexual relation among the opposite sex . Would you asked if they're happy?
Why can't an adult and a teen of the opposite sex engage in this act if they both consented and are happy? THINK!

God's sexual relation pattern is Between an [b]Adult male(Adam) and Adult female(Female).

The others you working in is the inclination of your heart to sexual immorality.
Peace

chieveboy:
The5Dme, I understand what you mean by God not been my perfect seeing people could be born with sexuality oddities.

The problem lies in people viewing life from the wrong perspective. It will interest you to know that the people responsible for our physical bodies (which people in the past called God's) as it appears now are not God. They are advanced people in appearance, intellect and so on from another planets and are actually fellow Souls as us.


Our pastors do not have enough data to work with the statement "Let US make man in our image and likeness...", So they interpreted that scripture as God speaking to his Trinity parties or so. The missing data in religion today is actually the reality of everyone having lived before.

Each Soul has a Mind that shapes it's physical appearance. Mind includes the intellect (conscious and subconscious) emotions and physical body. To cut a long story short: if Mind is focused on beautiful thoughts and actions, the mind in another incarnation and even the present will come out beautiful, spotless and clean. You can take it from here.

If Mind and another Mind have a karmic issue to settle that bothers on severe correctional karmic conditions, they could even come back here sharing same bodies.

An over-girlie or masculine Mind may still cary-over that trait to an opposite body in another lifetime and they would be referred to as a gay or lesbian. This same condition is responsible for people born without limbs, poor, rich and so on. It's all from Mind and Past Lives. Past life's is what determines destiny or fate.

There is no such thing as Sin! Only Karma! Everybody is responsible for their condition. You boyfriend or husband most likely was your mum or dad in a past life. All females had been males before and vice versa.

Soul is neither male nor female. The Mind is.

Cheers!

This sounds interesting. I heard you're into Eckankar?

The way xtians are so quick to compare the homosexuality of two consenting adults to pedophilia,to show how evil it is,all the while their bible said absolutely nothing against pedophilia,promotes it,and even their god is a product of pedophilia.

You may choose to ignore the warnings but know today that God's word condemns pedophilia outrightly!

YouAreFinished:

The way xtians compare homosexuality of two consenting adults to pedophilia,to show how evil it is,meanwhile their bible absolutely said nothing against pedophilia,and even their god is a product of pedophilia.

MaxInDHouse:
You may choose to ignore the warnings but know today that God's word condemns pedophilia outrightly!

Like they even knew what is called pedophilia.
Mention one single bible verse that plainly condemns it?