stanliwise:

Read this verses yourself and follow the story behind them. On no ground was anyone condemn or any direct laws for Christians not to drink alcohol.

Not even one.

Meanwhile that is not the bone of contention.

The real deal is that when something is not correlating, let’s iron it out rather than saying Holy Spirit ministered differently.

Righteousness2:
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Flee From ALL Appearances of Evil.

Guard your Salvation with all Diligence!

Eternity is a Personal Race.
Nobody will stand together nor even identical twins.
Nobody will stand for you Befor GOD..
Heaven is a Prepared Place for Prepared People..

Charisma01:


Suit yourself

livingchrist:
Drinking Alcohol is not a sin but drunkenness itself but how do you measure how many glass of alcohol cause drunkenness? The best is avoid drinking.

Nuttella:
I still will not drink alcohol.

When the bible says "lead us not into temptation" (Matthew 6:13) it knew that from drinking alcohol, we gradually become drunk and drunkenness is a sin according to my bible(Ephesians 5:18, Galatians 5:21).

God is not an author of confusion. People are just interpreting bible they want it suits them.

Gift96:
This uncle is trying to inspire others like himself.
Avoid alcohol there is nothing to gain there except falling inside gutter

blackmantis:
Drinking alcohol is not a sin..... excessive drinking and drunkenness is a sin.

There are some medicine that are made with alcohol.

But as a Christian it's not mandatory to drink infact if your drinking alcohol can stumble others then it's better you abstain why should you use your freedom as a Christian to stumble another. But anyone saying taking a small amount of alcohol occasionally is a sin is not saying the truth.

stanliwise:

Holy Spirit is not the author of confusions. Also a king cannot be server in two ways.
Stop all this Holy Spirit ministering to people in different ways.
It could be blasphemy indirectly. Holy Spirit is not the cause of confusion among different division of men today.

As stated clearly, Christians were not encourage to drink alcohol for fun nor refreshment yet no verse was against it directly. Warning were one specific case of abuse.

JaneYave:
Everyone to their own inspiration, as the Holy spirit minister to you This is purely an ethical issue.

Hongkog:


What has drinking alcohol has to do with what you just typed?

joshmee4real:
Does your Pastor Drink?

bixton:
Prov.20.1 - Wine is a mocker, Strong drink is a brawler, And whoever is led astray by it is not wise.


Eph.5.18 - And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit.
The bolded above is an old form of English usage. It means do not give in. Literally put do not even taste, do not start the process of drinking.

Prov.4.7 - Wisdom is the principal thing; Therefore get wisdom. And in all your getting, get understanding.


1Tim.5.23 - No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake and your frequent infirmities.

The same man who said the above also said that which is below. Sometimes you need to apply wisdom. The Word of God does not and cannot contradict itself.


1Cor.10.23 - All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify.



Now whether you agree it's a sin or not......what you should ask yourself is what do you derive from drinking it

John.2.10 - And he said to him, "Every man at the beginning sets out the good wine, and when the guests have well drunk, then the inferior. You have kept the good wine until now!"


How well do we understand this statement above by the master of the feast?

So you fellas really think Jesus gave them ogogoro because the burukutu they were drinking got finished!!!!!



Pls what did Jesus serve them ?
Chivita or Five Alive like someone alluded earlier.

mediaX:
At the last supper, wine was used, the apostles drank. At the wedding feast at Canaan wine also was used, the guests drank. As a matter of fact, born from proven historical Jewish study, wine formed an integral part of merriment in ancient Jewish culture, a culture the messiah was king of. And those who argue that wine doesn't in all cases mean 'alcoholic wine' are ignorant. Cause wine in itself, and the reason it is called wine in the first instance is because of fermentation. If fermentation didn't take place it is not wine. And it is fallacy 'petitio principii' to say wine is destructive simply because it is alcoholic. Jesus and his Jewish heritage drank wine for cultural reasons, as it formed a huge part of their culture at the time.

Let me digress a bit, so many things can impair judgment, not only alcohol. Prolonged hunger and self denial of food by itself could impair consciouness and any sane human's judgement yet fasting is never termed sin in christian scripture. Gluttony also is sin when you look at it, as detailed by christian scripture, but not the food in itself, rather the inordinate attachment to food and the greed that fuels such attachment.
Man can get attached to anything, when the usage is abused. And any inordinate attachment is a violation of the freedom of the will, that is what makes it sin. You no longer hold direct control over your decisions. The same way most people are addicted to hustling for money that they neglect time for their children and family: that is sin.

Again, have you wondered why there are different doses for children, adults and pregnant women on medical prescriptions? That goes to tell you that equal measurements do not impact equally in people's bodies. There are no one-size-fit-all definition of tolerance, as tolerance levels differ from individual to individual. 5 pints might make Enoch drunk, but it would require 8 to make Chris and David drunk. So technically Enoch gets the refreshment and no loss of consciouness so long he doesn't go beyond his body limit. And if Enoch does that twice in a month that's beautiful. Self mastery is a skill to be learned, and can be learned, but the underlying virtue is self discipline.

The medication you get at hospitals, contain signicant bits of alcohol, and in some painkillers and relaxants you'll find 'clinical marijuana'. Tramadol is a pain killer, many pastors take them after their vigorous all night deliverance service, but in prescribed medical dosage I suppose. Codeine which is a potent syrup for cough can utterly cause one to discobombulate when overdosed on it. So you can see two sides of a coin.

The biblical scripture says ' if your hand (wine) shall cause you to sin, cut it off'. Now "if" is a conditional statement, meaning it may cause some to sin (drunkeness) and may not cause some to sin. I am not you, you are not me. The fact that apostle Paul cut off the soldiers ear doesn't mean every man would have done same. The fact that peter denied Jesus 3 times doesn't mean every man would have done same. The fact that David slept with another man's wife doesn't mean every man would have done same. The fact say smell of drink dey high you, nor mean say e dey high me, as a matter of fact I reflect better and have more constructive thoughts after a bottle or two. I am not you, you are not me. Your weakness are not my weaknesses. As a matter of reality, your weaknesses may be my strength.

For those living in Lagos, you insult people almost everyday in buses, traffic, when driving and when outsmarted. So technically, the intense Lagos life causes you to sin, so kindly leave Lagos please!

For those living in Nigeria, the fraud government causes you to call your leaders bastards. This is sin, and a continual sin because Nigeria situation would continue to make you call them bastards, so kindly leave Nigeria please!

This thread is funny, just like saying don't burn bushes because fire kills people. Well I have been burning bushes for more than 40 years. No one has died. So would you say I committed murder?

Righteousness2:
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Flee From ALL Appearances of Evil.

Guard your Salvation with all Diligence!

Eternity is a Personal Race.
Nobody will stand together nor even identical twins.
Nobody will stand for you Befor GOD..
Heaven is a Prepared Place for Prepared People..

joinpreneur:
The bible emphasises on wine. It says it's good.

Medically, alcohol does more harm to the body than good. You know what that means? It's simply not advisable. So if Bible says wine is good for the health, then definitely it's not the alcoholic.

Ultimately, My Brother Reno missed the target.

Hongkog:


What has drinking alcohol has to do with what you just typed?

kushe:
The bible teaches against excess.
Excessive words,excessive idleness, excessive drinking and revelry in general.
The bible doesn't condemn the intake of alcohol as even Jesus was accused of being a drunkard.
We are saved by grace through faith and not this false religious piety that is totally unscriptural.
However because it demands a lot of self denial people actually feel righteous doing those things.

Righteousness2:
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Flee From ALL Appearances of Evil.

Guard your Salvation with all Diligence!

Eternity is a Personal Race.
Nobody will stand together nor even identical twins.
Nobody will stand for you Befor GOD..
Heaven is a Prepared Place for Prepared People..

efficiencie:
Smoking igbo is also not sin...abi? No portion of the bible says smoking igbo, taking heroin or sniffing crack is a sin. In fact no where in the bible was child abuse explicitly mentioned as a sin...sin does not stop at the "thou shalt nots" in the bible, what ever is not of faith is sin!

Cantonese:
Reno Omokri should read Proverbs 20:1; Isaiah 5: 11; Isaiah 5:22; Leviticus 10:9; Judges 13:4; Proverbs 23:31.

These people should not pick bible verses without insight just to serve their self centered purposes.

jesusjnr2020:
If drinking wine/alcohol is not a sin but drunkenness (as a result of drinking wine/alcohol) is a sin as you say, why drink wine at all?

To tempt yourself to see if it would lead you to drunkenness which you call sin?

It might not be a sin but it's obvious that it makes people to be more vulnerable to sin, not just drunkenness but fornication and the likes.

So drinking wine/alcohol is not wise. If you could avoid it, please do, because you could become addicted to it, and when that happens it would be difficult to stop.

God bless.

It's ironic you speak about my logic sounding dumb yet you go on to compare drunkenness with gluttony.

Do you have any idea of how people many people got raped, murdered, sexually abused, molested etc., because of drunkenness?

Maybe you should tell me how many of such atrocities have been perpetrated because of gluttony?

That's why drinking alcohol is not wise even though not a sin, but that's not stopping you or anyone else from drinking if you still want to. It's just an advice. Advice no be curse.

God bless.