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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Simeon88(m): 7:49pm On Jan 24, 2021
SchmidtHammer:


I at least see that you understand from what perspective I argue and I particularly appreciate this.
Personally, I would only support whatever solution that does not escalated violence as it is at the moment and threaten the stability of the country. There are other ways to curtail the menace of the violent herders without instigating an already agitated people to rise up and fight for themselves. This is lawlessness. Was it not for these reasons that Amotekun was created? It should be a question of how the capabilities of Amotekun should be improved to face the challenge at hand. Before an agreeable solution can be put to effect, ONLY FOR THE MEANTIME, the state governments can also do more by registering the herdsmen, uniquely tagging and documenting all the cows in the respective states, anything except these should be confiscated as state property. Also, farmers should be mobilized, an emergency toll free number can be created too for them. In the longterm, state governments can reach agreements to either sell or lease out land for ranching, loans can also be made available by the federal government for this purpose.
Lastly, I'll just add that the unity of Nigeria cannot always be reduced to merely the reluctant compromise of tribes to temporary agree on testing the extended sustainability of the 1914 amalgamation that could be challenged at anytime, say whenever an issue arises where interests are divided between tribes.
I pray you get kidnapped very soon by one of these guys, then you'll understand how dire the situation is. I read about the experience of a couple who came home for break. Till today I still shed tears each time I remember that incident. Sir, this is not child's play!
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jan 24, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.


You're a fool.


I don't mean to insult you, but to describe you.


Anyone who could take out time to write all those plenty words just to make no sense, is a fool.

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Odiriance4all(m): 8:18pm On Jan 24, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.


Your grammars are very useless, you want to speak big grammar whereas you don't know how to arrange words to make readers feel along.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by ofiko123(m): 8:21pm On Jan 24, 2021
But thanks to you and buhari they are.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by nwaanambra1(m): 8:22pm On Jan 24, 2021
seunmsg:


Allah may own all the lands in North west but you see the lands in Ekiti and other south west states, it belongs to the indigenous people of the states and according to the land use act, the custody is vested in the governors of the states.

Even in your Sokoto and Kano where Allah owns the land, can I move into any available land and start producing and selling alcohol? Can I move into any of your forest and start rearing pigs?

Your hypocritical sharia police goes about breaking bottles of beer after taking tramadol and sniffing latrines and we don’t complain because we know it’s your land. So, why can’t you do your business in our states without the criminal activities and without violating the customs of the local people?

wao! shocked shocked shocked

this guy is angry!


Beware the angry zombie!

he may get cured! cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by famto4luv2004(m): 8:23pm On Jan 24, 2021
Wow, Adamu Adamu Adamu brain will not kill u for the first time.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by PHARVICK(m): 8:24pm On Jan 24, 2021
But am I the only one observing that this is not particularly the problem the Yorubas are pointing at??
Enough killing, damn it!

They can be forced to stay in there ruga and they'd still be perpetrating their evils

I'm sure not every fulani in the west are here herding primarily., They want to capture everywhere.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Michael004: 8:34pm On Jan 24, 2021
seunmsg:


Allah may own all the lands in North west but you see the lands in Ekiti and other south west states, it belongs to the indigenous people of the states and according to the land use act, the custody is vested in the governors of the states.

Even in your Sokoto and Kano where Allah owns the land, can I move into any available land and start producing and selling alcohol? Can I move into any of your forest and start rearing pigs?

Your hypocritical sharia police goes about breaking bottles of beer after taking tramadol and sniffing latrines and we don’t complain because we know it’s your land. So, why can’t you do your business in our states without the criminal activities and without violating the customs of the local people?
Tell the almajiri o
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Michael004: 8:35pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:


Before the land use act of the 70's, have we not been grazing and making use of the land in southwest?
You and who. Come and graze on my land and face the consequences.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Kayharry(m): 8:44pm On Jan 24, 2021
If this Adamu tell you good morning, look outside to confirm o. He saying wat u want to hear because he got ambition on next election.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by mauchiz: 8:50pm On Jan 24, 2021
Buhari should enlighten his brothers, he should call them together and take them home.

They have been rejected everywhere.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by collum(m): 8:53pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:


Before the land use act of the 70's, have we not been grazing and making use of the land in southwest?

this is not 70's Mr man. cow rearing is a business same way cassava and maize farming is a business. u can't destroy my business so for u to sustain urs . ranching is the new normal and herders should embrace it.

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by AlhajiImam: 8:55pm On Jan 24, 2021
collum:


this is not 70's Mr man. cow rearing is a business same way cassava and maize farming is a business. u can't destroy my business so for u to sustain urs . ranching is the new normal and herders should embrace it.

Will you be the one to set up infrastructure for ranching for my people?
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Markbrowny: 8:58pm On Jan 24, 2021
Built2last:
Buhari will divide Nigeria. He will be the last president of a united Nigeria.

Since the North dont trust the west or east, they will try to hold on to power by all means in 2023. The southern leaders will be more united to kick against it and that will mark the beginning of the end for the British child called Nigeria.

Very true brother and even if it doesn’t happen in 2023, trust me it will happen during the tenure of the sitting president if he happens to be a southerner.

Because the truth is, if power moves to the South, the south will be more united and will help the middle belt.

For a United South holding onto power for 8yrs will be too unbearable for the hausa fulani. Just like the case of Jonathan, my brother these Fulani jihadist and hausa muslims loyalist will use boko haram to not just threaten the South but fight the south.

They will bomb Abuja, Lagos, Onitsha, Port harcourt, Benin, Ibadan, Oyo, Calabar, military barracks and police barracks in the south while they in their numbers to the south. They will get support from Arab nations and offer niger delta crude oil and gold in the north as compensation if they can get support from these arab countries.

The truth is that, it will be a very difficult situation for people in the south. We are very educated and it will be difficult for us to pick up arms. They will use boko haram to threaten to kill the sitting president from the south, ministers and senators from the south will be attacked in Abuja and killed.

The only way the South can win this war is to have a good agreement with UK, US and Israel. These are the countries that will use the United Nations to divide nigeria or restructure it to independent regions where each region will control itself resources and create laws through the house of rep.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by mushystuff: 9:02pm On Jan 24, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.

Then they should practice their age-long traditions and culture in their land where everyone is local and upholdssych culture. They shouldn't come and forcefully dispossess people in other regions of their land and property just because of Fulani nomadic culture. That is absolute BS!
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by collum(m): 9:03pm On Jan 24, 2021
[quote author=AlhajiImam post=98406743]

Will you be the one to set up infrastructure for ranching for my people? [/quote
]
are they not into business? or are they into charity organisation
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by IkePeters(m): 9:04pm On Jan 24, 2021
This is the most sensible statement I've heard from you in a long while. U have gained my respect for this brave stand you just took
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by otipoju(m): 9:05pm On Jan 24, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.

Culture is dynamic and never static. It is always evolving.

So other tribes should permit a culture that not only destroy their farms but murders kidnap and rapes their women.

Okay Ride on.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by bobluck: 9:08pm On Jan 24, 2021
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Zurich1844(f): 9:18pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:
Allah owns every land. If we are to pay, we use the money as alms to help our people and the almajirai.

People should stop claiming ownership of lands. It's a natural Allah given resource to be used by all.
Allah lagbuo gi there!
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by oluade11: 9:19pm On Jan 24, 2021
I salute you sir for saying it as It is at this critical time. Thank you sir.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by rampantlover: 9:19pm On Jan 24, 2021
Federal Republic of Cows and Generators...Lol
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Turantula(m): 9:19pm On Jan 24, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.
Ritual killing is my culture so you have to bring your mother and father for me to kill because I too dont want my culture changed. Zombie
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Turantula(m): 9:22pm On Jan 24, 2021
seunmsg:
This is a very sensible position that all reasonable Nigerians should take irrespective of ethnicity.
Mods this account has been hacked please re-crosscheck.
Sai Baba till every zombbee acquires common sense
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Maxsunny: 9:32pm On Jan 24, 2021
[This is the best truth I have heard in recent time, no politician in Nigeria want to say the truth, shame to you all, God is watching and will disgrace you all soon
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Shalommy(f): 9:35pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:
Allah owns every land. If we are to pay, we use the money as alms to help our people and the almajirai.

People should stop claiming ownership of lands. It's a natural Allah given resource to be used by all.
. U're an idiot. Let that allah strick u dead. Thief.

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