Dear Nigerians,
An African black mamba,rattler or a viper is never going to reproduce a bull snake,it will only give birth poison like itself.lets continue to wallow in ethnic,religious and regional sentiments and vote People who will sink us further into the abyss,our children and children's children will thank us and immortalise us for it!!!!

Exactly. ATTENTION ALL PDP AND GEJ SUPPORTERS: PLEASE STOP USING SOYINKA'S NAME IN YOUR BIGOTED PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN.

Your master has spoken and he is NOT with you.

That is all.

I may not know who will win the presidential election but i know : intelligent people like prof wole soyinka, Godly nigerians like pastor Adeboye, principled niger deltans like prof. Tam David-west, patriotic south easterner like prof. Utomi, and outstanding northerner like maitama sule will certainly not vote for the pdp.
Lets join these wise men to deny pdp my votes. A great nigeria is possible.

every right thinking nigerian knows that nothing good can come out of PDP.

modath:

Dear Nigerians,
An African black mamba,rattler or a viper is never going to reproduce a bull snake,it will only give birth poison like itself.lets continue to wallow in ethnic,religious and regional sentiments and vote People who will sink us further into the abyss,our children and children's children will thank us and immortalise us for it!!!!

Did he really say that?

timbuk two:

every right thinking nigerian knows that nothing good can come out of PDP.

Does that include people who have served under the PDP led government like Sanusi, Amaechi, Ribadu, Deziani, El Rufai, and all the other decampees from PDP to CPC?

Mai Suya:

Did he really say that?

No,he did not!!!its an analogy.pouring old wine in a new bottle is never going to make it fresh either,another nalogy.

efisher:

Does that include people who have served under the PDP led government like Sanusi, Amaechi, Ribadu, Deziani, El Rufai, and all the other decampees from PDP to CPC?

I am completely in awe of the thinking of some people,Cain and Abel are of the same parents.Ruminate on that.

You just contradicted yourself!!!

modath:

I am completely in awe of the thinking of some people,Cain and Abel are of the same parents.Ruminate on that.

First you said: NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OUT OF PDP
Next you say: CAIN AND ABEL ARE OF THE SAME PARENTS!!!

According to the story, ABEL was the good one. It's left for us to find out who joined CPC from PDP. Are they the Cains or the Abels?

Your generalization is flawed and it is better for you to acknowledge it and correct your initial impression than move on to the next available flaw.

Of course, the PDP is GIGO, because the members are empty and Prof. Wole Soyinka knows better.

efisher:

Does that include people who have served under the PDP led government like Sanusi, Amaechi, Ribadu, Deziani, El Rufai, and all the other decampees from PDP to CPC?

while we can argue about the individual merits of all the recent "decampees", i think it'll be easier to just say this: a government led by a non-PDP corruption slayer and a few former PDP members is infinitely better than the PDP themselves. has that cleared things up for you?

Where is the video?

1. As Kobojunkie rightly requested, you could just post the video

2. From what you posted above, I have every reason to believe that he was even referring to the CPC party because many members of the CPC party are products of the PDP party.
He might have been addressing the hulabaloos of insincere change.

Dav.e:

1. As Kobojunkie rightly requested, you could just post the video

2. From what you posted above, I have every reason to believe that he was even referring to the CPC party because many members of the CPC party are products of the PDP party.
He might have been addressing the hulabaloos of insincere change,

Don't attempt to use my request for some silly nonsense there. From what I have gotten from Soyinka, it is clear what his message is --- DO NOT VOTE PDP. You can choose not to vote CPC or even ACN --- there are other presidential candidates out there to give your vote. The main message remains. . , DO NOT VOTE PDP . . Even a retarded child would have long picked up on that!

whether pdp likes it or not i am voting for cpc

Ok, if the good Prof. said "Do not vote PDP", I do not see that as an endorsement of CPC. . . SO WHY ARE THE GEJ SUPPORTERS SHAKING IN THEIR BOOTS OVA CPC?!

@ Kobojunkie
Madam, Calm down and get yourself together.

I simply made a request for the video to the poster, indicating that I was the 2nd person doing so on this thread.
I then expressed my view on the subject matter in a separate point; thus '2'.

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Dear Nigerians, An African black mamba,rattler or a viper is never going to reproduce a bull snake,it will only give birth poison like itself. lets continue to wallow in ethnic,religious and regional sentiments and vote People who will sink us further into the abyss,our children and children's  children will thank us and immortalise us for it!!!!

Obviously, I haven't watched the interview where he reportedly made that statement. But from the quotation above, he could as well be referring to the CPC, because most of the top members of that party are products of the PDP. Also, many of their top figures are made up of old generatioonal politicians and military men who have been in the realm of power since independence, and still intend to cling onto power on different platforms.

I clearly get where Prof. Soyinka is coming from and took an objective approach to express my view in contrast to the prior insinuations that jhe was referring solely to the PDP!

Dav.e:

@ Kobojunkie
Madam, Calm down and get yourself together.

I simply made a request for the video to the poster, indicating that I was the 2nd person doing so on this thread.
I then expressed my view on the subject matter in a separate point; thus '2'.

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Obviously, I haven't watched the interview where he reportedly made that statement. But from the quotation above, he could as well be referring to the CPC, because most of the top members of that party are products of the PDP. Also, many of their top figures are made up of old generatioonal politicians and military men who have been in the realm of power since independence, and still intend to cling onto power on different platforms.

I clearly get where Prof. Soyinka is coming from and took an objective approach to express my view in contrast to the prior insinuations that jhe was referring solely to the PDP!

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Dav.e:

@ Kobojunkie
Madam, Calm down and get yourself together.

I simply made a request for the video to the poster, indicating that I was the 2nd person doing so on this thread.
I then expressed my view on the subject matter in a separate point; thus '2'.

In most all his statements to the media(referring to print here), Soyinka has not made any efforts to hide his disdain for the PDP. I asked for the video because I would like to see it for myself, however, as for the message itself, that has been Soyinka's message for a very long time now. He even tried creating a separate Political party to help people build something different from the PDP.

Dav.e:

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Obviously, I haven't watched the interview where he reportedly made that statement. But from the quotation above, he could as well be referring to the CPC, because most of the top members of that party are products of the PDP. Also, many of their top figures are made up of old generatioonal politicians and military men who have been in the realm of power since independence, and still intend to cling onto power on different platforms.

I clearly get where Prof. Soyinka is coming from and took an objective approach to express my view in contrast to the prior insinuations that jhe was referring solely to the PDP!

Again, I have not watched the video myself. But I know Soyinka's message to date has been that we not vote PDP. There is absolutely no reason why anyone being, would expect the PDP to produce what it has yet to in the past 12 years. Soyinka has hinted to this before -- on my than one occassion.

Is this not the same Soyinka that served under Babangida?

He talks a lot about democracy, but he's only ever served under military dictatorship.

I notice he criticizes Abacha a lot, but NEVER Babangida, his boss, who was even more corrupt than Abacha.

Shoot the messenger so you can ignore the message . . . . classic !!

LOL This Soyinka makes me laugh sha.

Didnt he say he was going to withdraw from Politics?

Anywa---yzzz. . .  . he's right tho. While he's telling us that PDP has nothing to offer, he should tell us what the other 50billion groups have to offer.

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" added 31 REASONS WHY BUHARI DOES NOT DESERVE YOUR VOTE

In my books, Buhari is a pretentious anti-corruption fighter. The trajectory of a man's journey in public life matters. For the following reasons I cannot vote for Buhari:

1. He is an oligarch who does not believe in equality before the law. The way he jailed Lateef Jakande, Jim Nwobodo, Ambrose Ali, Pa Adekunle Ajasin, Chief Ayo Ojewumi on cases that had no foundation and allowed Awwal Ibrahim, the then Niger State governor, who was arrested in Heathrow Airport in London with 14 million pounds sterling and several millions of Niara and dollars to be put under house arrest is my evidence. He also allowed Shehu Kangiwa, Sokoto State Governor who conducted and supervised the famous Bakolori Massacre of poor peasant farmers who's land were appropriated without compesation to remain under house arrest.

1(a) Ayo Ojewumi became blind as a result of his imprisonment over false charges and died shortly after.

1 (b) Prof. Ambrose Alli also became blind as a result of this false imprisonment. When he died, he had only one undeveloped plot of land to his name.

1© Pa Adekule Ajasin was never the same after his eventual release and remained sickly for the rest of his life. Whe he died, he never had any property anywhere in the world except the one he had built from his sweat as long term teacher and school principal in Owo township.

2. He put in place a retroactive law that killed three men, innocent men in my book, by public execution.

3. He jailed Ndukar Irabor and Tunde Thompson of the Guardian on stories that were factually true under Decree 4. He had told the Nigerian journalists then that it did not matter whether the story reported was true or not, if his regime did not like it, the writer would go to jail.

4. He supervised the smuggling of 53 suitcases filled with cash through the MMA against the protests of General Tunde Idiagbon and ironically, Abubakar Atiku, the then Director General of the Customs who later became the Vice President and a compromised politician himself. This smuggling of the suit cases was supervised by his ADC, Col. Mustapha Jokolo.

5. He jailed Fela Anikulapo -Kuti on trumped up charges under an emergency law which prompted the sentencing judge to confess that he was ordered to do so and apologised to the late musician. It was Buhari's administration that said it has "decided to deal with this Fela problem once and for all."

6. He convinced all the northern political leaders against allowing the National Identity Card program because according to him, this would unravel the myth of a Northern population majority

7. He is an Islamic fundamentalist, the Bin Laden of Nigeria, who told his northern followers never to vote for anyone who was not a muslim.

8. He is a coup plotter.

9. He has never been able to account to Nigerians what he did with the 20 billion Naira of the Petroleum Trust Fund of which he was the chairman under Sani Abacha.
9(a) He has not been able to point to any project that he prosecuted outside the Northern Nigeria with the so-caled trust fund.

10. He was in full support of all the atrocities of Sani Abacha against the Nigerian people. There is no single record of his criticism of Sani Abacha during those dark days when Nigeria was on precipice. It shows that he is a patriot of convenience and as such unfit to lead the country.

11. Buhari, as part of his tribalistic practices placed President Shagari under house arrest inside a palatial mansion in Ikoyi while he locked up Shagari's Vice, Alex Ekwueme in Kirikiri Prison. Shagari is Hausa/Fulani like him while Alex Ekwueme is an Igboman.

12. Ikemba Emeka Ojukwu, another Igboman who returned from 13years exile just a little over a year then was as well locked up in KiriKiri Prison by mean-hearted Buhari.Up till today we are not told what was Emeka's offence.

13. Busari Adelakun died of ulcer because Buhari refused him to be taken out of prison for immediate medical attention.The then Governor of Ogun State,Bisi Onabanjo suffered similar fate which we were told led to his untimely death.

14. Buhari ransacked the house of our late sage, Obafemi Awolowo and confisticated his International passport. Which civilized democratic society would elect the likes of Buhari as President,the same individual who overthrew an elected President? Never!

15. Plus Buhari having Sam Mbakwe in jail, went for one of Mbakwe's wives. He established himself again for what he was/is letting Mbakwe receive in jailhouse news of the death of another of Mbakwe's two wives. One (I can't remember his name now; Odenigbo?) also died in jail.

16. Buhari's henchman and sponsor, CPC governorship candidate for Kano State, is Mohammed Abacha, the same person that had/ran a personal killing squad, coordinated the killing of Kudirat Abiola & attempted to kill Ibru; and also stashed money in underground tanks, all less than 13 years ago, Nigerians have very short selective memory. Shame

?17. Buhari discriminated against persons from other ethnic groups/faiths; and that as PTF Chairman, he employed an overwhelming number of Fulani/Hausa/Moslem people at the detriment of other groups and concentrated PTF projects in the Nort, h. If in doubt read El Rufai's testimony where he wrote about Katsina boys who used the money they made at PTF to bankroll Yar'Adua's election in 1999.

18. Buhari is unforgiving. When he "took over" by coup in 1983, he even remembered an article written a very very long time ago by Bisi Onabanjo ('The Mallams are coming') and a later one in which Onabanjo wrote that people should watch out for that "gangly officer from the north" after Buhari gave a no holds barred speech at some Army functions where he was reported to be very openly pro Fulani and pro Islam to the exclusive of all else and also talked about termination of democratic rule. For that, Onabanjo got one of the harshest jail terms and treatments.

19. Buhari intolerance is worse than Obasanjo's. When he was adopted as the ANPP's candidate on the night of the party's Primaries without prior warning to the other candidates (and a few of them protested), Buhari got up and made a speech that those people must be disciplined. I subsequently saw him on BBC's "hard talk" and he frightened me and the interviewer with his archaic and fundamentalist intolerant views. His understanding and articulation is very much in doubt.

20. The evil genius, IBB and his crew similarly ran rings around Buhari. On the 10th anniversary of Abacha's demise, Buhari said that Abacha stole nothing from Nigeria! Despite millions of Dollars recovered from banks around the world and the Abacha family signing a formal agreement to return over $1 billion dollars, Buhari still said that Abacha's stealing remains an unproved allegation!!!! Why? Because Abacha set Buhari up like an emperor and let him use oil money from the Niger Delta to develop the North without supervision or questions.

21. Buhari snubbed the same Nigerians he now wants their votes by refusing to appear before Justice Oputa Truth and Reconciliation Panel. Despite the fact that Buhari knew how inportant reconciliation is to the stability of democracy. Buhari has never apologised at anytime.

22. Buhari executed Lawal Ojuolape (30), Bernard Ogedengbe (29) and Bartholomew Owoh (26). To put it quite plainly, one of those three – Ogedengbe - was executed for a crime that did not carry a capital forfeit at the time it was committed. and At the time Ogedengbe committed the crime it did not carry that punishment. If we must live as civilised citizens we must go by the rules. Article 11.2 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights reads: "No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission WHICH DID NOT CONSTITUTE A PENAL OFFENCE, under national or international law at the time when it was committed. NOR SHALL A HEAVIER PUNISHMENT BE IMPOSED THAN THE ONE THAT WAS APPLICABLE AT THE TIME THE PENAL OFFENCE WAS COMMITTED. Killing people with retroactive laws is not the civilised thing to do - and for as long as we will have people who refuse to see the truth only because their heroes are inching to rule when they have not purged themselves we will continue to wallow in misery.
23. Let’s informed Buhari that Lateef Jakande’s $60 million metro rail project for Lagos, which he cancelled immediately after he over-threw the Second Republic, has now accumulated a debt profile of over $3 billion for Lagos State, making the state the most indebted state to Paris Club in the federation.
24 let also remind Buhari that Gbolahan Mudashiru, his Military Administrator for Lagos State, alerted him on the clause in the contract agreement that would yoke the state to this debt, if the contract was cancelled unilaterally, and that he replied Mudashiru, that he didn’t care a damn.Though the fund for the execution of that project which would have given the people of Lagos an intra-city light train transport system would not have come from Buhari’s Supreme Military Council, General Buhari, as Military Head of State, cancelled this wonderful project of the state government, with ethnicity on his mind.
25. Let us again tell him that his action of jailing Dr Alex Ekwueme, then Nigeria’s vice president, from Anambra, and keeping President Shehu Shagari, from Sokoto State in a house arrest in Ikoyi was also ethnically fired.
26. So also was the shorter end of the stick he handed the South, as chair of Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF), in the execution of projects.
27. Shagari’s regime (1979-1983), incurred Buhari’s wrath when it decided to investigate the US$2.8 billion that disappeared from the Midland Bank, London account of the Nigerian National Petroleum Cooperation, (NNPC), during General Obasanjo’s era as military head of state that preceded Shagari’s. Dr. Olusola Saraki, Turaki of Ilorin, was the majority party leader of the Senate at the time and he headed the Senate Committee set up to trace the stolen money after some three years of clamour for such an investigation by members of the civil society. The money was traced to the Midland Bank London branch fixed account of Buhari, Obasanjo’s appointee as military head of the Nigerian National Petroleum Company. The Committee’s report was presented to the Senate during the tail end of Shagari’s regime in 1983, so the House decided to deal with the matter soon after the 1983 general elections.
28. He locked up without trial, politicians and critics including Fela Anikulapo-Kuti, notorious for clamouring for the exposure of the oil money rogue. Vera Ifudu, who was an NTA reporter then, was sacked through his prodding as military ruler, for reporting what Dr. Olusola Saraki had told her in an interview about how the missing money was traced to Buhari’s account at a Midland Bank London branch. Vera eventually won her case of wrongful dismissal in court against the NTA and was financially compensated.
29. Abacha rehabilitated Buhari with the chairmanship of the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) before he (Abacha) died in 1998. When Obasanjo returned to power in May 1999 as civilian president, he found that over 2.5 billion naira had not been properly accounted for in the PTF and that there was not much on the ground to show for the colossal expenditure the agency was claiming. On the day Obasanjo announced the scrapping of the PTF, a non-staff brother-in-law of the boss, allegedly serving as his conduit on some PTF projects, died suddenly from what appeared to be heart failure.
30. Buhari’s conflicting statements on the money laundering charges involving his ADC in 1984 on the 53 suit cases saga, has indicted him.
31. He should reveal to us his health status… Buhari at 69 yr old is a clear liability on Nigeria and Nigerians is Nigeria a health insurance scheme?




If Nigerians reward dangerous, insensitive, dishonest, mean, cruel, partial, egoistic, religious, fundamendalist, conscienceless human beings like MOHAMMADU BUHARI with the presidency of Nigeria with his kind of track record, then why do we still wonder why Nigeria has not and will not make it?

I can not in good conscience support Buhari's candidacy on the above grounds. I wish we have intelligent people who know what democracy means. I wish we have civilized minds. However, I am 100 percent sure that Buhari will never again rule Nigeria.
It is clear that apart from the states of the North-West and North-East, his Congress for Political Change (CPC) would hardly earn 25 per cent of the total number of votes cast in the remaining states of the federation. By implication, two zones just cannot earn Buhari the presidency he is looking for, no matter their voting strength.

I saw Soyinka on Riz Khan's programme and he actually said he supports Ribadu.

I do not recall that he said what the OP posted.

johnie:

I saw Soyinka on Riz Khan's programme and he actually said he supports Ribadu.

I do not recall that he said what the OP posted.

This topic only spans one page for now. Is it too much to ask that you read a handful of others comments before posting?

efisher:

You just contradicted yourself!!!

First you said: NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OUT OF PDP
Next you say: CAIN AND ABEL ARE OF THE SAME PARENTS!!!

According to the story, ABEL was the good one. It's left for us to find out who joined CPC from PDP. Are they the Cains or the Abels?

Your generalization is flawed and it is better for you to acknowledge it and correct your initial impression than move on to the next available flaw.

No where did i post that the Prof asked people to vote Buhari,or mention CPC,AC,APGA or Labour Party,though he professed a ldesire for a youth centric kingd of governance for the country,secondly did you read the posts and mark each posters comments properly.
I cant really be bothered by people like you though,we know your motivations and leanings.

timbuk two:

every right thinking nigerian knows that nothing good can come out of PDP.

A Link to the video


http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/rizkhan/2011/04/20114595939272123.html

I disagree with a lot of what he said of Nigeria, and INEC.

I watched the interview yesterday and Prof Soyinka stated categorically that he supports Ribadu.

He expressed his disappointed with the PDP led government and feels PDP has nothing new to offer Nigeria.

He also pointed out that every nation in the world has corrupt people. The problem with the Nigerian case is that the elite places corruption over and above productivity.

My understanding of this statement is that no god or demi-god can absolutely fight corruption. What any sane government can do is to increase productivity while trying to reduce corruption.

Focusing on corruption would lead us no where.

^^^yeah. I watchd d interview too nd d Prof. made it abundantly clear that whilst he is against d PDP continuing in power, Ribadu is d candidate he is supporting. He laid out reasons y he's out 4 Ribadu. Riz Khan even introduced him as 'the face of pro democracy activism in nigeria'

Pro Anti:

I watched the interview yesterday and Prof Soyinka stated categorically that he supports Ribadu.

He expressed his disappointed with the PDP led government and feels PDP has nothing new to offer Nigeria.

He also pointed out that every nation in the world has corrupt people. The problem with the Nigerian case is that the elite places corruption over and above productivity.

My understanding of this statement is that no god or demi-god can absolutely fight corruption. What any sane government can do is to increase productivity while trying to reduce corruption.

Focusing on corruption would lead us no where.

Reducing corruption will decrease wastage, improve efficiency, improve civillian welfare, improve infrastructure, transport, housing, power and commerce.

Ergo, drastically reducing corruption will increase productivity. I cannot agree with your closing statement.

Soyinka supports Ribadu because Ribadu is in ACN, a 'Yoruba' party.

Soyinka has ALWAYS supported parties representing HIS ethnic group. He has NEVER supported any national party - ever.

He needs to explain how Ribadu, a man who cannot even coherently explain his development strategy for the country, should be made president. ''Fighting corruption'' alone WILL NOT lead to Nigerian development in the absence of solid, well-thought out development programmes.

Pro Anti:

I watched the interview yesterday and Prof Soyinka stated categorically that he supports Ribadu.

He expressed his disappointed with the PDP led government and feels PDP has nothing new to offer Nigeria.

He also pointed out that every nation in the world has corrupt people. The problem with the Nigerian case is that the elite places corruption over and above productivity.

My understanding of this statement is that no god or demi-god can absolutely fight corruption. What any sane government can do is to increase productivity while trying to reduce corruption.

Focusing on corruption would lead us no where.

I think you should watch the interview again because Soyinka also stated his reasons for backing Ribadu included his belief that with such a man in office, and one of the main reasons he stated that considering Ribadu's EFCC years, he believed Ribadu as president would fight against corruption --- he even predicted that with such a man in office, corruption would be cut by half in just a couple of years . . . so yes, the man believes Corruption is part of the problem that needs to be tackled.

You are on your own there when you claim that focusing on corruption would lead no where . . . matter of fact, I think that is morose thinking from anyone who knows the entity called Nigeria!

Pro Anti:

The problem with the Nigerian case is that the elite places corruption over and above productivity.

Focusing on corruption would lead us no where.

Kobojunkie:

so yes, the man believes Corruption is PART of the problem that needs to be tackled.

You are on your own there when you claim that focusing on corruption would lead no where . . . matter of fact, I think that is morose thinking from anyone who knows the entity called Nigeria!

kobojunkie, frm a perspective, u'r right bt i think wt d guy's trying 2 say is dt FOCUSING solely on it won't help Nigeria as a nation. There r oda areas dt need healing too.