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Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by johhbekeboh09: 6:59pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
If you consider the church leadership dont put the monies contributed to good use...look out for the needs of your church like furniture the building doors toilet landscape et al and volunteer to finance it So far I assess that financial assistance you giving your neighbours is quite impressive 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by PointZerom: 7:04pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
floss: Has your stinginess in the church made the pastor poorer? |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by dedunji: 7:06pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Is a carry over from your childhood when your used to give you 20 30 40 for offertory you are not the only one u Kno some people still carry that idea till today going around looking for change |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by specialmati(m): 7:07pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
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Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by Blackdeewhy(m): 7:15pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
I was given this narration OP, let me share it with you probably you might learn one or two things there. Assuming you are on your way to NEPA office to settle tour electricity bill and on your way you noticed that the next street does not have light because their poll fell. Will you use you NEPA bill money to repair their poll or you will pay your bill? Even if you use that money to fix the pol which is DOING THE RIGHT THING, FACT STILL REMAIN THAT YOU ARE OWING NEPA and fixing the poll does not guarantee or automatically means you will have FREE BILL. CHEERS! |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by sonofthunder: 7:24pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Sermwell: Possibly you don't see "needs" in your church or to the best of your knowledge, they are being met....... But only you can really answer the question you poised in the op. |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by seyz91(m): 7:29pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
nothing is wrong with your style of giving infact you on right track, me too same as well i dont give pass 50naira if i eventually go to church cuz i'm not the churchy person but you doing good bro and keep on that same pace and your better and larger reward is in heaven better than gathering money for some pastors to be buying private jet up and down Sermwell: 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by studentofTruth: 7:30pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Blackdeewhy: Considering Jesus' clear commands in Matthew 25:34-45, what you explained is the case of someone who neglects giving to the poor and consoles himself that he is giving in the church! 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by Slyzen(m): 7:37pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
@sermwell It is good to give to people in need, but it is better to give to people who takes their time to impact you. To impact your spirit. The way I see it, pastors too have needs. And even though we might want to believe that their reward is in heaven, I strongly believe that giving to your spiritual leaders should be a priority just like you give to your country leaders via taxes. Even on that note, our spiritual leaders utilize our "taxes" more judiciously than our present day government. When you go to church, there is light, fan or AC, cleaned auditorium, cleaned compound, electronics that needs servicing, generator, for instrumentalists that are paid weekly, etc. Who do you think pay for all these that ensure the smooth running of the church? Let's assume that you a pastor leading a church and all the members pay only 20 Naira as offering every Sunday, how do you maintain the church? If you go hungry and sick without funds, how do you find the motivation or strength to lead and motivate others? Also, most of the free seminars and events hosted in churches today, are mostly paid for elsewhere. People pay thousands and sometimes millions to attend high-impact meeting and seminars hosted by business people. If you value the church services enough to attend them, why then is giving a reasonable token so difficult for you? It's all about perspective. 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by gideonvalor98(m): 7:42pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
The fact is though we're in the end time and many unheard things in the past about church are rampant now, despite that it shouldn't trouble our mind if truely we're saved. The bible said "you shall know the Truth and it will set you free." Know God genuinely and acknowledge him in what you do which includes giving to him cos he has done great things for you. And this giving should come from a sincere heart...from heart of gratitude. Don't let what happens around you determine how you give to God. I pray for God's blessings the more upon you. I must also encourage you to continue doing good for others too because it is also another way of giving to God. 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by addexx: 7:43pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Sermwell: I know it sounds clichéd but you are giving to propagate the gospel further. You are giving to shut the gates of hell to the lost and open the gates of heaven to new converts. You are giving to members of the body of Christ in case they be in need. You are giving to appreciate and honor God for his blessings. You are depositing to your heavenly account. You are giving because you love God. Whatever ministers do with your offering is really none of your business. You know in your heart who you gave to. God knows too But you may decide to change your place of worship if you have overwhelming evidence of mismanagement of funds. |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by studentofTruth: 7:43pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Slyzen: It's good that you have finally come clear that money is the motivation for pastoring the people! I like you saying the truth for what it is — if there's no money, the pastor won't get motivated! |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by femi4: 7:44pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
studentofTruth:Wrong interpretation |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by studentofTruth: 7:45pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
gideonvalor98: What you failed to realize is that Jesus Himself gave us a proxy for giving to Him: Please, go and read Matthew 25:34-45 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by studentofTruth: 7:48pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
femi4:Jesus Himself gave us a proxy for the gifts we have for Him: Mtt 25:40 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by Slyzen(m): 7:53pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
studentofTruth: If he is sick and hungry, he won't be able to give his best to his flocks. Just like if your president is sick, the country would be in disarray. That is why in every circle, the leadership must be very well taken care of at all cost. Presidents, CEOs, Pastors, King's, etc. Receive the utmost care and financial benefits because of the value they bring. If their physical or financial well-being is threatened, they cannot perform optimally or be able to lead or motivate their followers. Most people who have not taken leadership roles, or those from poor backgrounds don't understand this dynamics. He that waters must be watered and made to flourish first. That is the simple truth. |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by studentofTruth: 7:57pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Slyzen: Thank you once again for being sincere. But, Apostle Paul should be the example, and not CEOs or presidents, unless you want to tell us that churches are just one more secular organization! |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by professore(m): 8:00pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Sermwell:You need to avail yourself to true teachings on tithes and offering. Truth is, you have to honour God with your money. Stop giving ridiculous and beggarly amounts if you truly believe you are giving the money to God. Do this without letting nairalanders who are unbelievers influence you negatively. Also, as you help the poor and needy, you are doing it for God. God will protect you and not allow you regret being helpful in Jesus name. 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by nextstep(m): 8:01pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
This giving thing is very complex to understand... for even Jesus once said, and I missquote: "Bleep the poor, their ass will be here, always asking for handouts and shit... Mary, be a dear, pour that expensive oil and rub my feet baby, for my ass is tired" ![]() ![]() I sometimes think the "giving to the church" is some made up cock-and-bull story written by, guess who... the Church. Before you say anything, consider, the Church had over 1,500 years to insert whatever they liked in the retelling of the stories. One more thing: the sole requirement for salvation is believing that Jesus is your saviour. Every other thing is just mental masturbation. If you feel giving to the needy is the right thing to do, do it. Afterall pastors have zero qualms buying jets. |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by femi4: 8:01pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
studentofTruth:consoles himself that he is giving in the church! The bold isn't part of the parable. Giving in church is scriptural according to Act 2:44-46 Let's be a balance christian Give in church as much as you give to the poor |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by studentofTruth: 8:02pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
professore: Jesus Himself gave us a proxy for the gifts meant for Him: Mtt 25:40 |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by femi4: 8:04pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
studentofTruth:What happened to Act 2:44-46 You removed it from your Bible |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by studentofTruth: 8:06pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
femi4: It's a contribution as a member of the community. The command is in Mtt 25:34-45 In Mtt 25:40, Jesus literally declares the proxy for gifts meant for Himself! 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by studentofTruth: 8:07pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
femi4: It's a contribution as a member of a community. The command is in Mtt 25:34-45 In Mtt 25:40, Jesus literally declares the proxy for gifts meant for Himself! The mistake you must not make is to deceive people that willful contributions you make as a responsible member of the community is your gift to Jesus! |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by pepperdemzombie: 8:07pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Sermwell:KEEP YOUR N20 TO YOURSELF HENCEFORTH! NOBODY asked you for it! You enjoyed fan/ac with electricity/gen bought with your N20 or not? You sat on a chair bought with your N20? Stop disgracing yourself, it is not compulsory to give offerings in the Church. People who give money to maintain the place are giving without complains. You go to a Church, you see them spend on Electricity, gen, fuel, fans, seats, give snacks and drinks to children in the childrens' department etc, you give N20, you see someone who asked for N10k without bothering to know what he needs it for, you gave it out. Can you listen to yourself? Where's your head? Between your shoulders or between your legs? It is not compulsory to drop anything, keep your N20 to yourself and enjoy what people donate for free. They will tell you it is better to give to the beggars by the road side instead of the Church, but you will NEVER see them worshipping with the beggars on Sunday, they will go to Church as if someone took them there with a dog leech then come and complain. Mission accomplished, you want them to drag the Church and they have done so. If they give something to everyone in the Church, you will reject it ba? Na Church swear for una? 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by gentlegenius(m): 8:08pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Akakanfirstclass:You've said the truth: Giving to the church is an act of sacrifice... Giving to the poor/needy is an act of love. But are you aware that what God want from us is LOVE, not sacrifice? Read Matthew 9:13. 3 Likes |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by Angelmichael63: 8:08pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
[quote author=Sermwell post=99280629] Lol...but some persons will strongly disagree![/quote THAT IS LACK OF TRUST TO CHURCH LEADERS AND YOU MAY NOT RECEIVE YOUR BLESSING IN FULL MEASURE BECAUSE, GIVING IN THE CHURCH IS FOR CHURCH USE WHILE INDIVIDUAL GIVING IS FOR INDIVIDUAL USE AND THERE IS DIFFERENT BLESSINGS ATTACHED TO EACH ONE. THAT IS WHY GIVEN YOUR TITHE TO INDIVIDUAL IS WRONG MALACHI 3:8-10 OFFERING SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU LOVE GOD(GREATEST COMMANDMENT) AND IS FOR THE PROPAGATION OF THE GOSPEL WHILE INDIVIDUAL GIVING SHOW HOW MUCH YOU LOVE HUMANITY WHICH IS THE SECOND GREATEST COMMANDMENT |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by Slyzen(m): 8:11pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
studentofTruth: Apostle Paul was well taken care of and he enjoyed many gifts and contributions from several churches in his clime. For example, read 2 Corinthians 8 vs 1-5 PS: Also read Philippians 4 vs 10 down. 1 Like |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by Mrbenny001: 8:12pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Giving to people or your neighbors and giving in the house of God are of different scenarios with separate blessings |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by femi4: 8:12pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
studentofTruth:Ignorance 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. 46Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. Believers not community |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by ghettochild(m): 8:12pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Sermwell:Brow, it's quite a good gesture. If everyone in church donates 40naira each every Sunday... Pastor will still be aiit.. Carry one with ur charitable deeds jare 2 Likes |
Re: My Giving In Church Vs My Giving To Others: What Is The Cause?? by gideonvalor98(m): 8:13pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
studentofTruth: Explain what this verse you quoted saying |
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