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Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by aadoiza: 1:52pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
shadeyinka:Why do you, sir, allow yourself to be bullied so much on faceless forum? Long time. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by budaatum: 2:00pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
aadoiza: You will have to read the entire conversation aadozia to understand he meant "must" and "are" despite being told to the contrary by atheists who ought to know better since they must at least know themselves. Its like mechanics come on here and say they cannot drive at all and you insist they should and must and do. Hear him below in the atheist mind! shadeyinka: |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by budaatum: 2:18pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
aadoiza: Please know that not only does he put up with it, he specifically goes and opens threads to invite it. https://www.nairaland.com/6404876/waging-bet-against-impossible-statistical#98858986 |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by aadoiza: 2:35pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum: We're talking probability here. Besides the non-essential clause in the commas already covers this scenario you presented . In the real sense of his argument, I doubt he's projecting Nihilism on those above-mentioned atheists but rather inferring that submission of his from the "everything is a result of chemical reaction and speck of dust" argument used mostly by atheists. So his inference is valid. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by aadoiza: 2:43pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum: People would only bully you, whether you invite it or not, if they think you're weak. Shadeyinka does not deserve bullying because he's a gentleman. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by budaatum: 2:46pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
aadoiza: Valid to you. Others obviously have different opinions. But we shall see if they bully you for having the same opinion as Shade, or if Shade is being bullied, as you claim, for other reasons. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by budaatum: 2:50pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
aadoiza: "A gentleman" who is dishonest? I guess some have a different opinion of him to the one you have of him. Perhaps one's experience of him is different to your's, unless you want to claim others are just bullies, of course. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by aadoiza: 3:05pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum:Ain't that the beauty of opinions? You're not obliged to agree with them nor is anyone else. So you move on if you don't agree with them, e no go change price of garri for market. Even The Rock couldn't bully me in the flesh; how could anyone then bully me on a faceless forum |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by aadoiza: 3:10pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum:He's dishonest because he has a different perspective on a subject from yours? Actually, the atheists have been graceful in their responses to shadeyinka thus far. The only bully here is you, buda. 1 Like |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by budaatum: 3:35pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
aadoiza: I agree aadozia. And if you recall, you and I did exactly what you say should be done here; we both moved whether you like it or not.Yet, isn't it amazing that the next time you and I meet it just so happens to be in a discussion that began with the problem of believing. The Gods must have plans. This conversation did not start with opinions, aadozia, but with a text we could both objectively check and say what we saw, and which you can consider for yourself instead of stating your opinion and thinking it would be accepted as fact as Shade did, which is what is being opposed and that you have formed the opinion constitutes bullying. https://www.nairaland.com/6404876/waging-bet-against-impossible-statistical Yes, I am the only one arguing vehemently with shade. But then, I am the only non-atheist who disagrees with him too. 1 Like |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by budaatum: 3:41pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
aadoiza: Did I bully you when your view about me as a believer differed to mine? He is not dishonest because "he has a different perspective on a subject from yours". One did not arrive here today, so one knows many have different views and they are not bullied for it or accused of being dishonest for it. In fact it shows they are able to use their own minds which most commend! Go and check the evidence before doing exactly what he did that was strongly resisted and that you insist on claiming is bullying. 1 Like |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by LordReed(m): 4:19pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
shadeyinka: First off the finality of death has nothing to do with the nihilistic position. The Nihilistic position negates meaning, purpose and value, the finality of death does not negate any of the 3. Yes war can be meaningful even if the outcome is a guaranteed loss. Remember the Alamo. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by Nobody: 4:34pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum: Mommy and Daddy just met. Then mommy just conceived. I will just die no matter how much I spend. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by Nobody: 5:45pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
shadeyinka:There is no reason why there is consciousness. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by Nobody: 5:54pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum:Mummy and Daddy were just born and they will just die or they were just born and they just died. You were just born and you will just die. Your thoughts just happen,too. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by shadeyinka(m): 6:54pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:It means that consciousness spontaneously appeared with no reason, life then is meaningless and achieve no purpose. Isn't this Nihilism? If life has no purpose, does it have a meaning? Who defines the "meaning" for life? |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by shadeyinka(m): 7:39pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
LordReed:The case of Alamo is a massacre, I do not see any meaningful outcome to those who died horrible deaths in the hands of the Mexicans. I agree that the finality of death has nothing to do with the nihilistic position. The Nihilist position comprises both when a man is alive and after he dies. The Nihilist doesn't separate between the state of living or dying. In other words, The Nihilistic position negates meaning, purpose and value both when alive or dead. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by Dotez: 7:42pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
I will like to digress a bit I know that the universe is so big that we can't even quantify enough how big it is. but is this picture for real? are there really stars that are bigger than the sun? like the size of the sun is insignificant compared to this stars? lol
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Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by LordReed(m): 7:47pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
shadeyinka: The battle of the Alamo was not a straight up massacre. The Alamo defenders even though out numbered 6 to 1 repelled 2 attacks and killed 600 of their opponents over the course of under 2weeks while surrounded and cut off from retreat or reinforcement. You asked me if there was any reason to fight even when defeat is guaranteed, the Alamo defenders saw a reason to do so. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by LordReed(m): 7:51pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
Dotez: This is why the wonder of the universe is enough to silence the arrogance of thinking this universe was made for mankind. 1 Like |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by aadoiza: 7:55pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum: Please tell me what you called fact out of all the humbug you've written. So your fact is: to live is the purpose of man. I'm not sure you know what fact is madam. If your opinions were based on facts, no-one would argue with you. Your word play won't save you here. You are the only arguing 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by aadoiza: 8:00pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum:There's not one evidence left for me to check. Shaa change your online bulling ways. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by aadoiza: 8:03pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
Dotez:Scam alert. CGI at work Budaatum says to use your brain. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by shadeyinka(m): 8:09pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
aadoiza:Thank you for being so kindly minded. The Christian in me wouldn't allow "a tooth for a tooth!". I've grown some very thick skin when dealing with (especially ) Atheists. It's their normal Modus operandi only that the dimension of Buda is a little different. He's like a brother with a short fuse. I used to engage him when he was a full blown Atheist and I probably was among the first to notice his transition to a form of "theistic atheism" for want of words to describe him. For Buda, I seem to have a very very long rope. I can easily stop replying and the thread will die a natural death. Thank you! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by budaatum: 8:11pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
aadoiza:I am going to try really hard to take your advise. Thank you. However, I already failed, and will fail very often. https://www.nairaland.com/6432955/things-every-lady-should-know#99418427 Shadeyinka, forgive buda for bullying you. What I attempt to think about you is here. https://www.nairaland.com/5505236/attempted-response-shadeyinkas-practical-question |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by shadeyinka(m): 8:14pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum:Buda want me to adopt his philosophy! LOL! |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by shadeyinka(m): 8:20pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum:Can a spiritual corpse feel/experience anything spiritual? That's why I can't blame you! |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by Nobody: 8:23pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
shadeyinka: The word has a meaning. It means something (an occurrence or event) that has no purpose. But that is not Nihilism. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by budaatum: 8:23pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
shadeyinka: No, Shadeyinka. I do not want you to adopt my philosophy. You can not adopt my philosophy no matter how much I try. And it is the fact you misunderstand that and make false claims about me that annoys me. In order to adopt my philosophy, you will have to have travelled the path I travelled to get it. And to be honest with you, I would not wish my travelled path on my worst enemy because it is a very harrowing path that involves physically dying at least 3 times and spiritually being dead for longer than you've likely lived, so why would I want to wish such a path on you. Anyway, I have told you what annoys me and why. Jesus was an optician who worked on peoples' eyes even more than he raised the dead, so blindness should not be the curse of those in whom he dwells. The threads are here as a record for those who see. Peace. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by shadeyinka(m): 8:26pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:Actually the question is a tutology: Rephrased! If life has no purpose, does it have a |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by Nobody: 8:29pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
shadeyinka:The meaning of a word is not the purpose of the word. |
Re: The Paradox Of Nihilism- A Problem For Atheists And Humanists by shadeyinka(m): 8:37pm On Feb 25, 2021 |
budaatum:I have already given him an indulgence, he is set free even without asking! The quoted link probably summarises one of the reasons why I have a very very soft spot for Buda! |
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