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Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by ektbear: 4:53am On Apr 11, 2011
Alright, thinking about it further, it wasn't fair of me to bash 'em. They are certainly entitled to vote for whoever they want. But if truly they are seeking change, then it should be clear that giving the PDP a majority in the house and senate is undesirable.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Nobody: 4:55am On Apr 11, 2011
ekt_bear:

So you'll vote for the same PDP politicians in the North that you claim to so badly dislike?  undecided If you want to bring about true change in Nigeria, there must be decentralized power. You cannot reward the same PDP you claim to dislike so much (I'm talking to Northern voters here). Otherwise, nothing will change.

Anyway, I hope these moronic northern voters enjoy the next 4 years wellu wellu. I have some measure of confidence my ACN boys will do a good job. PDP governors will r.a.pe the northerners as usual. People truly deserve the politicians they vote for  undecided

Did Northerners claim to despise PDP?

Dont take the opinions you read on NL seriously tho, it might infact be the minority's opinion.

SWesterners hated PDP and got rid of their power monopoly. They got rid of PDP (well not in totality), might be same case with Northerners and CPC.

Did you think a lot of SWesterners that voted ACN had Jonathan/Buhari in mind? Last time I checked, none of the two were ACN candidates.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Kobojunkie: 5:00am On Apr 11, 2011
Basseti:

@ Kobo
Lets just say U are too smart for me to comprehend what exactly u are driving at.
From what I understand, U are trying to give a reason why CPC didnt do well in the North despite Buhari's purported popularity.

You are not even following the discussions here , are you?? lol I am able to follow on two different discussions at the same time. The post you responded to happened to be have been for the conversation I had going with @reallife.

I wasn't trying to explain the results from the NASS elections. No, I was disputing @Reallife's claim that BB supporters on nairaland were actually rooting for CPC this past Saturday.

Basseti:

From this, I can safely assume that U think CPC will do much better come saturday. I am just saying that Saturday will test that your hypothesis -- I don't presume to know how this will turn out. I only hope that Nigerians are really ready for change this time . . . .same hope I had back during the 2007 elections.

Not really . . . I support the BB ticket and hope that Buhari wins the presidential election this coming Saturday. I have offered up no hypothesis.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by EzeUche(m): 5:01am On Apr 11, 2011
Many people stated that PDP has widespread support. However, some people on Nairaland were adamant that PDP does not have widespread support.

PDP is hated in one region and that is the SW. And we all can see that.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Nobody: 5:04am On Apr 11, 2011
EzeUche:

Many people stated that PDP has widespread support. However, some people on Nairaland were adamant that PDP does not have widespread support.

PDP is hated in one region and that is the SW. And we all can see that.

Oh so you love PDP now?

Mo feel sorry fun e.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by EzeUche(m): 5:05am On Apr 11, 2011
Ileke-IdI:

Oh so you love PDP now?

Mo feel sorry fun e.

I don't like PDP. Even though technically, my family supports PDP. Since my people are rudderless, it is everyone for themselves.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by real4life: 5:10am On Apr 11, 2011
ekt_bear:

Alright, thinking about it further, it wasn't fair of me to bash 'em. They are certainly entitled to vote for whoever they want. But if truly they are seeking change, then it should be clear that giving the PDP a majority in the house and senate is undesirable.

Yes ideally you are correct. But practically, like Kobojunkie said, ACN has prepared for about 8 years while CPC is just a baby. It's very difficult to uproot a party as deeply entrenched as PDP especially at the local level. In a typical nigerian village, about 80% of the population are poor, and benefit one little way or the other from Reps and Senators. It is very easy for them to be influenced (even threatened) to vote for the incumbent candidates.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Nobody: 5:12am On Apr 11, 2011
EzeUche:

I don't like PDP. Even though technically, my family supports PDP. Since my people are rudderless, it is everyone for themselves.

I dont think the SW is the only region that wants to get rid of PDP, I just think they were more successive at it.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by EzeUche(m): 5:17am On Apr 11, 2011
Ileke-IdI:

I dont think the SW is the only region that wants to get rid of PDP, I just think they were more successive at it.

If other regions wanted to get rid of PDP, they would have done so. Especially the North. . . But like usual, it seems like the Yoruba are moving back toward their historical position as opposition.

Don't you all see similarities?
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Nobody: 5:19am On Apr 11, 2011
EzeUche:

If other regions wanted to get rid of PDP, they would have done so. Especially the North. . . But like usual, it seems like the Yoruba are moving back toward their historical position as opposition.

Don't you all see similarities?

Nope. Show me.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by EzeUche(m): 5:20am On Apr 11, 2011
Ileke-IdI:

Nope. Show me.

Do I have to give you a history lesson? Did you school in Nigeria? Most people would know the path that I am going to take.

Read about the First Republic politics.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Nobody: 5:25am On Apr 11, 2011
EzeUche:

Do I have to give you a history lesson? [b]Did you school in Nigeria? [/b]Most people would know the path that I am going to take.

Read about the First Republic politics.
Did you? angry

If you know so much, why not just post the similarities?
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Jovann: 5:51am On Apr 11, 2011
Am amused at most comments on this Elections. People will be amazed at the voting Pattern in the North come Saturday. Ask urself this Question; Why did the NASS fought tooth and nail to have the NASS election before the Presidential Poll?. The Election results reflect the wishes of the people for now, unless in the SE and SS where MASSIVE Rigging took place.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by dayokanu(m): 5:51am On Apr 11, 2011
I am contented with the SW sweeping out the PDP.

Let the other regions reap the benefit of PDP rule
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Jakumo(m): 6:00am On Apr 11, 2011
The destiny assigned by Allah to Ayatollah Buggari-Bin-Laden is a miserable life of frustration, failure, futility and ultimately, abject bankruptcy.

Anyone who expresses discontent over this manifest, guaranteed destiny that has been carved in stone by the Almighty Himself, is opposing the dictates and directives handed down from Al Jannaa, a place Ayatollah Buggari-Bin-Laden will imagine but never reach, as he slides inexorably down to his reserved and deserved place in the fiery bowels of Hades.

Muaha ha ha ha !
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by real4life: 6:04am On Apr 11, 2011
Jakumo:

The destiny assigned by Allah to Ayatollah Buggari-Bin-Laden is a miserable life of frustration, failure, futility and ultimately, abject bankruptcy.

Anyone who expresses discontent over this manifest, guaranteed destiny that has been carved in stone by the Almighty Himself, is opposing the dictates and directives handed down from Al Jannaa, a place Ayatollah Buggari-Bin-Laden will imagine but never reach, as he slides inexorably down to his reserved and deserved place in the fiery bowels of Hades.

Muaha ha ha ha !

I pity you, what a waste.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Nobody: 6:05am On Apr 11, 2011
I go talk am again and again.

Those places in the North where PDP won, did they field an Ijawman?? or a Christian?? The National assembly elections in the North was a Northern Muslim against another Northern Muslim. If you think the Average almajiri in the North would vote an Ijaw Christian over his fellow Northern Muslim, then you must be thinking with your spinal cord. Its just like thinking an average Christian Niger deltan or his Christian Ibo brother would vote Buhari over GEJ. Ethnicity/Religion are major determinants in Naija politics.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by real4life: 6:08am On Apr 11, 2011
abibio2001:

I go talk am again and again.

Those places in the North where PDP won, did they field an Ijawman?? or a Christian?? The National assembly elections in the North was a Northern Muslim against another Northern Muslim. If you think the Average almajiri in the North would vote an Ijaw Christian over his fellow Northern Muslim, then you must be thinking with your spinal cord. Its just like thinking an average Christian Niger deltan or his Christian Ibo brother would vote Buhari over GEJ. Ethnicity/Religion are major determinants in Naija politics.

Check Nasarawa, and Gombe.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Emdion(m): 6:35am On Apr 11, 2011
As d election stands, dis is d way forward. CPC and ACN should merge their interest. Adopt buhari as presidential candidate( ribadu can not get d maximum vote frm d north). On wednesday al serving governor an aspirant of d two party should be at cpc rally So as to give support for buhari.(caution: they must police their vote because of pdp way of rigging). After winning d election d two party wil then form govt and also form a new party for 2015, my two cent
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by jmaine: 6:50am On Apr 11, 2011
abibio2001:

I go talk am again and again.

Those places in the North where PDP won, did they field an Ijawman?? or a Christian?? The National assembly elections in the North was a Northern Muslim against another Northern Muslim. If you think the Average almajiri in the North would vote an Ijaw Christian over his fellow Northern Muslim, then you must be thinking with your spinal cord. Its just like thinking an average Christian Niger deltan or his Christian Ibo brother would vote Buhari over GEJ. Ethnicity/Religion are major determinants in Naija politics.

All Jonathan need is just 24% of those states which is likely cos the so called Almajiris will have to choose between Muslims like Buhari, Shekarau and Ribadu and the PDP factor and reach will also fetch Jonathan some votes . .Now add that to the stash of the votes Jonathan will get from the Southern, North central, part of southwest and please do the maths . .it's glaring . .the opposition candidates can only do some reasonable damage if they stand united but last i heard . .That is a no go area for now considering the marginal success they have enjoyed and would want to make a claim in the upcoming Governorship election

PDP lost in Ogun State not because The ACN were stronger but because the house of PDP was not in order hence their votes were splits among the three warring faction . .OYO too has the PDP still strugling but i see the Accord Party doing wonders there if Akala behaves like a sane human for once . . . Only true ACN states with total support from the populace remains Lagos , Osun and maybe Ekiti cos Former AC now PDP terrorist Ayo Arise is still at war
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by danjohn: 7:03am On Apr 11, 2011
Folks I have been saying it for weeks that CPC will not do well in the National Assembly election. Many of their candidates had no name recognition, were underfunded, and were relying on riding Buhari's coat tails to victory. Unfortunately that was not enough. CPC will do better this coming saturday because Buhari will be on the ballot. If Buhari was on the ballot today, the result would have been different.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Nobody: 7:11am On Apr 11, 2011
What happened in Nassarawa and Gombe, did any Southern Christian candidate win there??!!!

real4life:

Check Nasarawa, and Gombe.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by Nobody: 7:17am On Apr 11, 2011
I am originally from Ogun state and I also served there from March 2010 to March 2011. PDP was definitely gonna lose in Ogun state and Oyo state, the only way they wouldnt have lost was if elections werent free and fair. Do you know how much trauma Gbenga Daniel and Alao akala caused the people of their states How many years back they took their states The divison in both the the Ogun and Oyo PDP house too (though worse in Ogun) only made the job easier, PDP was definitely gonna lose any free and fair elections in those states

jmaine:

All Jonathan need is just 24% of those states which is likely cos the so called Almajiris will have to choose between Muslims like Buhari, Shekarau and Ribadu and the PDP factor and reach will also fetch Jonathan some votes . .Now add that to the stash of the votes Jonathan will get from the Southern, North central, part of southwest and please do the maths . .it's glaring . .the opposition candidates can only do some reasonable damage if they stand united but last i heard . .That is a no go area for now considering the marginal success they have enjoyed and would want to make a claim in the upcoming Governorship election

PDP lost in Ogun State not because The ACN were stronger but because the house of PDP was not in order hence their votes were splits among the three warring faction . .OYO too has the PDP still strugling but i see the Accord Party doing wonders there if Akala behaves like a sane human for once . . . Only true ACN states with total support from the populace remains Lagos , Osun and maybe Ekiti cos Former AC now PDP terrorist Ayo Arise is still at war
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by ektbear: 7:22am On Apr 11, 2011
@danjohn: I hope you are right.

@dayokanu: While that is good, it might not be enough.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by dayokanu(m): 7:27am On Apr 11, 2011
^^ Dapo,

Seriously, i dont care whatever happens in other regions if they like they can install Idi-Amin peoples party.

My concern is strictly for the SW. If ACN is what would develop the SW, then let other regions think about their own problems.

And we dont need the mainstream cos we as Yorubas lost more when we went mainstream 2003-2011.

Based on quality of candidates alone, AC does way better than PDP

Fashola vs Obanikoro , Ajimobi vs Alao-Akala, Omoworare vs Omisore, Oyinlola vs Aregbesola, Amosun vs Olurin.

Its obvious the ACN candidates are wayy better.

ACN for SW and any interested states, everyone else look out for yourself
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by ektbear: 7:33am On Apr 11, 2011
I understand your POV. But if you are not careful, external forces can sabotage your progress. We are not (yet) in a nation of our own, so thus must monitor the situation elsewhere in the country. Think of OBJ and the damage he did to Lagos. Or this same Benin-Ore road that hasn't been fixed. . . hell, most of the federal roads in a bad state.

Federal gov't preventing Lagos from supplying its own electricity. . . preventing the LCDAs.

A jealous and incompetent FG can stifle progress.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by dayokanu(m): 7:37am On Apr 11, 2011
A jealous FG might hinder yes but Have you thought of the problems that comes with expansion? The additions might not be as committed to the cause.



We are preparing a Nation of our own, In Nigeria, live like you are in your own country, Nobody cares
.

I think OBJ intended harm for Lagos but it ended up backfiring and turning the people firmly against the PDP
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by ektbear: 7:40am On Apr 11, 2011
Good points.

But I'm only interested in expanding enough to block sabotage. That is pretty much it. If you deny the PDP a majority in say both the legislative branches, I think that would be a pretty good thing.

Alas, not everyone else in the opposition seems to have realized the value in doing this  undecided
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by dayokanu(m): 7:43am On Apr 11, 2011
Like I said in the other thread, I was hoping other regions would make the PDP weaker, I would have wanted the APGA to sweep the SE and maybe labour sweep SS and CPC/ANPP make strong showing in the North.

Have like 4-5 parties and everyone fighting the interest of the regions
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by ektbear: 7:46am On Apr 11, 2011
^-- A 6 region variant of the initial British plan would be pretty damn good. A lot more stable than the mercurial tripod of old. You are right, we'd have the same effect with several regional parties.
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by jmaine: 7:46am On Apr 11, 2011
abibio2001:

I am originally from Ogun state and I also served there from March 2010 to March 2011. PDP was definitely gonna lose in Ogun state and Oyo state, the only way they wouldnt have lost was if elections werent free and fair. Do you know how much trauma Gbenga Daniel and Alao akala caused the people of their states How many years back they took their states The divison in both the the Ogun and Oyo PDP house too (though worse in Ogun) only made the job easier, PDP was definitely gonna lose any free and fair elections in those states


I Felt the same way about Ogun State but the results revealed that a United PDP would have defeated the ACN in some arena . .votes were literally shared between the PDP and the PPN and i think one other party . .combine those three results and picture what a United PDP would have achieved


OGUN CENTRAL
ACN - Gbenga Obadara 102,389
PDP - Iyabo Obasanjo-Bello 56,312
PPN - Ijaduoye Monday 27,183

OGUN EAST
ACN - Sefiu Kaka 76,543
PDP - Mohammed Odunowo - 52,613
PPN - Abiodun Odusanya 46,148


OGUN WEST
ACN - Odunsi Babalola 61,326
PDP - Babatunde Fadun 59,949
PPN - Waliu Taiwo 45,246

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ABK/SOUTH

ACN - William Samuel 28,490
PDP - Oladimeji Bankole 23,103
PPN - Ogundimu Afolabi 3,924
ADO-ODO/OTA

ACN - Babatunde Ogunola 19,890
PDP - Fasiau Micheal 12,797
PPN - Hassan Kolawole 11,885

IFO/EWEKORO

ACN - Adeyemi Adekunle 28,609
PDP - Osunbiyi Abidemi 13,651
PPN - Obadina Bamidele 8,372
EGBADO NORTH/IMEKO AFON

ACN - Adeluyi Akanbi 17,383
PDP - Alexander Ajibade 16,784
PPN - Adewusi Rasaq 18,492
Re: Cpc Lost Nass, But Presidential May Be Closer by ektbear: 7:50am On Apr 11, 2011
^-- Good point. ACN had better perform otherwise they'll be tossed out.

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