advocatejare:


Muhammad died in 632 AD

Abu Bakr the first Caliph ruled for 2 years during which he started the first compilation and he completed it before he died and kept it.

The second caliph Umar ruled for 10 years from 634-644AD and he was in custody of manuscripts until he died after which Hafsa his daughter kept custody of it.

During the rule of Uthman (who ruled 12years after Muhammad had died) that is more than 12 years after the first Quran was compiled. Uthman ruled for 12years so in between those 12 years while he was ruling, people called his attention to the different ways people were reciting the Quran (which has been the norm even when Muhammad was alive and he didn't think of unifying the Quran into one dialect because Muhammad himself said the Quran was revealed to him in 7 different dialects)


But Uthman decided to unify the Quran into one standardized version when neither Allah nor Muhammad gave him such Instruction when he was alive.

So Uthman sent for the manuscript with Hafsa
"...So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies."... Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510


So Uthman then ordered his scribes to write the new Quran in the dialect of the Quraysh and when they were done with their editing and standardization they buried the evidence of their alterations by burning the evidence.


"...'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt..." Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510

Hence the Quran sent to all provinces were compiled during the reign of Uthman who started ruling 12 years after Muhammad died and ruled for another 12 Years and the compilation and editing was done within his 12 Years of rule, which was 652 A.D.20years after Muhammad had died

Also, as at that 652 A.D. there was no diacritical marks in Arabic language, it only came into existence in 8th century and the 9th century, long after Muhammad had died and long after Uthman had given out his own standardized version of the Quran

The arabic skeletal script is without the diacritical marks and vowelization:
Fathah = ah
Dhammah = oo
Kasrah = ii

None of the above dialect marks existed in the time of the prophet or Uthman in 652 AD and the present day Quran has them

That means nobody in the world has the original Quran with the original language without diacritical marks and vowelizations and that means the Quran compiled is not the same as the one Muhammad received

WHERE IS THE QURAN GIVEN TO MUHAMMAD?

Lololol
You are a big buffoon...
You imagined the Quran was revealed to prophet Muhammad in paper form?
Lool

ANTIlSLAM:


Whereas demons will be looking at you because you can't do anything to them with your quran, you can't cast out demons with your quran, just continue reciting okay

Lolol
You guys are really ignorant and quite silly

advocatejare:


Don't mind him.

He's talking about verses like this

Lolol
Na wa o...
You posted the verse of when Jesus was born and Mary was hungry, Allah instructed her to shake the date tree, so that she could have strength after eating the dates.
Na wa for you o

advocatejare:

You're welcome

They invoke evil spirit using Arabic incantations while lying to themselves that they are doing Ruqya.

Come and see them here in the North how Jinns mess with their lives in exchange for fake demonic powers.

Go to the topics like Islamic spirituality and seeing Jinns and see how Empiree and his likes brag about having interactions and getting assistance from demons/jinns

Some of them even amuse us by claiming to be coverting demons to Islam. Humans converting demons, to Islam

Lanatu lahi ala l kazibin.
May the wrath of God be upon liars.
I'll leave you here.

Alhajiemeritus:

Lanatu lahi ala l kazibin.
May the wrath of God be upon liars.
I'll leave you here.

Amen. That means wrath of God is already on Allah the demon, the best of the deceivers and Muhammad who lied and encourage his followers to lie and kill:


Muhammad was a deceiver and a murderer who encouraged his followers to lie and murder


Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!......


.....When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf."
-Sahih Bukhari 5:59:369

Your religion permits lying even under oath to defend your religion.

Allah parades himself as the best of the deceivers, so how much more your scholars who are only following the footsteps of their lords


Allah is not only a deceiver but the best of the deceivers, the same title of Satan, the father of lies.

Quran 8:30
wa-idh yamkuru bika alladhīna kafarū liyuth'bitūka aw yaqtulūka aw yukh'rijūka wayamkurūna wayamkuru l-lahu wal-lahu khayru l-mākirīna

And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and Allah deceives/schemes and Allah (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers.

Makirina is from (مَكْر [makir] ) which means cunning, deceptive, guile.

Alhajiemeritus:

Lolol
Na wa o...
You posted the verse of when Jesus was born and Mary was hungry, Allah instructed her to shake the date tree, so that she could have strength after eating the dates.
Na wa for you o

Alhajiemeritus:

Lololol
You are a big buffoon...
You imagined the Quran was revealed to prophet Muhammad in paper form?
Lool

advocatejare:

I understand your pains and frustrations but I won't dignify your folly by entering into the gutter of insult with you.

My aim here is to expose the lies in your religion and to expose your Allah as a demon.

Religious arrogance. One thing is to be ignorant. Another thing entirely is to be arrogant with it. If you like, post epistle in reply. I know it makes you feel better.

Since the day I debated you and realized your limit in the knowledge of your bible and Christianity, I seen no reason to argue often with you at all.

As I said before, it is one thing to be ignorant. It is another thing to be arrogant. Arrogance on top of ignorance is a disaster.

Empiree:
Religious arrogance. One thing is to be ignorant. Another thing entirely is to be arrogant with it. If you like, post epistle in reply. I know it makes you feel better.

As I said before, it is one thing to be ignorant. It is another thing to be arrogant. Arrogance on top of ignorance is a disaster.

I like what you used to describe yourself. You're truly very arrogant and ignorant.


Your god in Islam has advised you that you should ask us Christians for clarity when you're confused like this.

" So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters."
(QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94)


Your arrogance has made you to disobey your god, al makirina, Allah the best of the deceivers.

You still have the chance to stop your arrogance, obey Surah 10:94 so that we can cure you of your ignorance.

advocatejare:



Your god in Islam has advised you that you should ask us Christians for clarity when you're confused like this.

✓ which of the CHRISTIANITY, (unitarian or trinitarian)?


✓ which of the Christian sects, (seraphim and cherubim, celestial, Pentecostalism, RCCG, Synagogue, Living Faith, Jehovah witness, Deeper life ministry?


.....and so many more. So which one of these different doctrines we should ask?.

Empiree:


✓ which of the CHRISTIANITY, (unitarian or trinitarian)?


✓ which of the Christian sects, (seraphim and cherubim, celestial, Pentecostalism, RCCG, Synagogue, Living Faith, Jehovah witness, Deeper life ministry?


.....and so many more. So which one of these different doctrines we should ask?.

Go and ask the authors of the Quran

advocatejare:

Go and ask the authors of the Quran

formula dodge e

You think you smart

See how I break your plan



Which christian sect Quran says we should ask

That's one million dollar question you failed woefully to answer. Oju ti e

Empiree:
formula dodge e

You think you smart

See how I break your plan



Which christian sect Quran says we should ask

That's one million dollar question you failed woefully to answer. Oju ti e

Oju ti Allah and Muhammad who said the Quran is clear and yet didn't tell you the specific group to go to. It's a shame,


"And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 43)



"So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters."
(QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94)

advocatejare:

Oju ti Allah and Muhammad who said the Quran is clear and yet didn't tell you the specific group to go to. It's a shame,


"And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 43)



"So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters."
(QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94)

to ask you what?

Empiree:
to ask you what?

Ask the entity that gave you the instruction naw

advocatejare:

Ask the entity that gave you the instruction naw

you are a failure and a shame to christiandom. You read Quran protestantly and acted like you knew what the QUR'AN is saying. You only grabbed "ask the people of the book" but you don't understand the context.. you see your life outside

You see why I said you are a waste of time?. I don't take your serious at all. Keferi jatijati

Empiree:

[s][/s] you are a failure and a shame to christiandom. You read Quran protestantly and acted like you knew what the QUR'AN is saying. You only grabbed "ask the people of the book" but you don't understand the context.. you see your life outside

You see why I said you are a waste of time?. I don't take your serious at all. Keferi jatijati
[/s]

Cry cry Empiree, carry your frustrations to meet Allah the best of the deceivers, Al-Makirina

advocatejare:

Cry cry Emp.iree, carry your frustrations to meet Allah the best of the deceivers, Al-Makirina

escape route see why I said I don't take you serious?. Truth is glaring before you but agidi ko je ko gba ododo bcuz shaytan is playing prank on you.

Empiree:
escape route see why I said I don't take you serious?. Truth is glaring before you but agidi ko je ko gba ododo bcuz shaytan is playing prank on you.

Go and meet the Best of the deceivers, Allah the al-makirina, Orisha eletan

Queenlovely:
Many Muslims have told me that the Qur'an has been perfectly preserved and that all Qur'ans around the world are absolutely identical. They have said this in order to prove that the Qur'an is superior to the Bible. Maybe a Muslim has said this to you, or maybe you are a Muslim and have said this yourself.
It is common for Muslims to believe this because this is what Islamic leaders teach.


No other book in the world can match the Qur'an ... The astonishing fact about this book of ALLAH is that it has remained unchanged, even to a dot, over the last fourteen hundred years. ... No variation of text can be found in it. You can check this for yourself by listening to the recitation of Muslims from different parts of the world.

Assalamu alaykum. Perhaps the person who responded to you has caused doubts to you about this post of yours. Listen to the following to understand the reality of the issue:

https://www.salafisounds.com/the-dialects-of-the-quran-and-the-modes-of-recitation-by-abu-hakeem-bilal-davis/