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Eternal Life by topshore(f): 12:41pm On Mar 09, 2021 |
Text: John 3:16; 1 John 5:11-13 Eternal life is not only living forever with Christ in God's Kingdom but also living the best life ever. 1. Eternal life is found exclusively in Jesus, Our Lord and Saviour. Except you accept Him into your life, there is no other password to the door of Eternal Life. 2. Eternal life is always received only by believing in Jesus as the Son of God who died and resurrected to save us from our sins. Without believing in Jesus, you cannot have Eternal life(John 3:14-16) 3. The gift of Eternal life by Jesus is the only thing that can satisfy our hunger and thirst forever. When we have it, we don't have to crave for anything, never(John 4:13-15). 4. We can only receive the gift of Eternal Life through the grace of God (Romans 6:23) 5. We can actually have it now (1John 5:13) The comfort, joy, satisfaction, freedom,confidence, humility, peace, love, and all manner of God's blessings we enjoy now is just a bit of what's awaiting us in Eternal life with the Father and Jesus, the Son. With whom do you want to spend your eternity? If it is with Jesus, this is the time to accept Him as your Lord and Saviour. Forsake your sinful ways and hold unto righteousness. Tomorrow may be too late. Say this short prayer: Lord Jesus, I confess that I am a sinner but now I forsake my sins and accept You as my Lord and Saviour. Come into my life and take Your place. I believe You're the Son of God and that You died for me to save me. I say bye bye to the devil and I enter into the Kingdom of Light. Thank You Jesus, in Your name I've prayed, amen. Congratulations and God bless you. Peace! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkie: 1:11pm On Mar 09, 2021 |
topshore:Eternal life refers specifically to life after this world is over, for eternity and it is not only life that can be lived in Heaven but in Hell as well. The gift of Eternal life is obtained by believing in Jesus Christ but that eternal life can be spent either in Heaven or in Hell. So it is not enough to believe.. It is even more important to Trust and Obey for only those who obey Him will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. All those who believe Him but refuse to obey Him will spend eternity in Hell after they are raised from the grave. |
Re: Eternal Life by topshore(f): 1:29pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
Yes, I agree. More annointing sir |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkie: 1:33pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
Also eternal life is what the grace of God refers to. So those who worship "grace" do so in ignorance since the same eternal life (grace) can be spent in either of Heaven or Hell. |
Re: Eternal Life by livingchrist: 4:29pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Eternal life can be spent in hell? Lol You dont know what eternal life is, John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Do you really believe Jesus words? Jesus said those who has eternal life will not be condemned. Hell fire or the lake of fire are places of condemnation meaning those who have eternal life has already escape hell fire and the lake of fire. |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkie: 4:45pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
livingchrist:Hell fire or the lake of fire are places of condemnation meaning those who have eternal life has already escape hell fire and the lake of fire.[/quote] Death is the condemnation of sin, a judgment God Himself placed beginning with Adam, on all those who do not believe in Him. In the verse you have there Jesus Christ explains what is said in John 3 vs 16 -21 to you, which is that those who hear His word and BELIEVE will no longer be condemned to Death but instead gifted with everlasting life a.k.a. eternal life( a.k.a grace). That is all He says there. ![]() See, no guarantee is given or mention of Heaven or Hell. |
Re: Eternal Life by livingchrist: 5:14pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:what you said is not Jesus words. Jesus said those who believe in him has everlasting life and shall not come into condemnation. Hell and the lake of fire are condemnation, Jesus did not tell you he is talking about Adam's death, did he? Why are you adding you own words which Jesus never said |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkie: 5:24pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
livingchrist:Ok. Jesus Christ also never mentions the word Hell as the place where condemnation takes places so let's leave that out as well ![]() And from John 3 vs 16 -21, which echoes the message Jesus Christ speaks of in John 5 vs 24, we are informed that unbelievers are already condemned by God - Jesus Christ did not come to condemn but to save, so He, Jesus Christ could not have been the one who placed that Judgement on man. From reading, we know that God indeed condemned pointing Man to Death beginning from Adam, for His sin of unbelief. So, what is it that we are "saved" from? Death, which is the condemnation of sin - not to be confused with sin. What do we get in place of Death? Eternal life(aka grace) What other guarantee is given in those passages? None |
Re: Eternal Life by livingchrist: 5:41pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:you cant leave hell fire or lake of fire because they are all condemnation. Jesus said those who has everlasting life shall not be condemned, And from John 3 vs 16 -21, which echoes the message Jesus Christ speaks of in John 5 vs 24, we are informed that unbelievers are already condemned by God - Jesus Christ did not come to condemn but to save, so He, Jesus Christ could not have been the one who placed that Judgement on man. From reading, we know that God indeed condemned pointing Man to Death beginning from Adam, for His sin of unbelief.you are caught in your own web of lies, I asked you where Jesus mentioned the death brought by Adam? And you are blabbing, do you know that when Jesus talk about death sometimes he is not referring to ths physical death? Matthew 9:24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn. Here is Jesus saying that the maid is not dead but sleeping, meaning when Jesus talk about death sometimes he is not talking of physical death. Which means death mean much more than the physical death you are talking about, Jesus never said what you are saying, ![]() |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkie: 6:05pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
livingchrist:Again, Hell and Heaven, both of them of the Kingdom of God, are not mentioned, so do not insert them into the context of your own imagining. ![]() livingchrist:The problem here remains with your understanding of what Death(the condemnation of sin) is as instituted by God means. There is a reason why Jesus Christ would look at one dead person and declare that that person was in fact not dead, but the very same Jesus Christ would look at another and declare that indeed he/she is dead/perished. Ever asked yourself why that is? ![]() Those who do not believe in God are condemned to perish(just like Adam before them) when they breathe their last here on earth. That is the Death that Jesus Christ saves us from when we choose to believe in Him. ![]() Those who believe in Jesus Christ are gifted with eternal life(grace) in place of the previous, Death, and as such can no longer die(Death) but instead sleep when they breathe their last on this earth. ![]() So, the man mentioned in Matthew 8 is dead because he died an unbeliever. However, the maid mentioned in Matthew 9, has eternal life and so is not dead but asleep. ![]() |
Re: Eternal Life by livingchrist: 6:25pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
You that is accusing others you are guilty of the same. Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Kobojunkie: Where did Jesus say all these things? Where is the verse and the chapter? |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkie: 6:40pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
livingchrist:I am not judging you. Simply explaining that to understand Death, you have to know where it came from and what it meant before Jesus Christ showed up. There is a parable that Jesus Christ tells of this. Jesus Christ told several parables but the one below speaks to this particular talk and why Jesus came. ![]() To understand that man was condemned to die from Adam, I am afraid you may need to go back to reading from Genesis, where you get to learn of the judgment of Death as placed on man by God. |
Re: Eternal Life by livingchrist: 6:43pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:you are the one that insert your imagination into Jesus words. Where did I insert heaven? Is hell not condemnation? Confused man problem here remains with your understanding of what Death(the condemnation of sin) is as instituted by God means. There is a reason why Jesus Christ would look at one dead person and declare that that person was in fact not dead, but the very same Jesus Christ would look at another and declare that indeed he/she is dead/perished.where did Jesus teach this junkie? Again, Jesus said sodom and gomorrah will appear on the day of jugdment, meaning that sodom and gomorrah will be resurrected from death, does that mean they believed in Jesus? Koboconfused. Hell is damnation Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? So when Jesus said that those who has eternal life has escaped Judgment by Jesus own words he meant hell. So mr kobo, it is your words against Jesus words. So, the man mentioned in Matthew 8 is dead because he died an unbeliever. However, the maid mentioned in Matthew 9, has eternal life and so is not dead but asleep.where did Jesus say this? Again Jesus said those who has eternal life will not come into condemnation, is hell or the lake of fire not condemnation |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkie: 6:57pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
livingchrist:I simply asked that you not apply an unscriptural interpretation of what is written there by inserting Hell were Hell was not mentioned. I went ahead and pointed you to John 3 vs 16-21 where the same message is repeated and in that context as well, it is explained to you where the word condemnation comes from instead. livingchrist:Where did Jesus Christ tell you that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be resurrected from death? ![]() livingchrist:Pay attention to the language and tenses used in each of the verses you post, please. Hell is damnation that has yet to happen since Jesus Christ Himself said He will judge. In Matthew 23 vs 33, Jesus Christ rightly speaks of damnation that is yet to come. Those who will be damned to Hell will be known after Jesus Christ returns again, not now. However, you are told of unbelievers that they are already condemned ... meaning judgment has already been pronounced. And what judgment did God pronounce even here on earth? Death ![]() As for learning of Death, you will have to read your bible beginning from Genesis. ![]() |
Re: Eternal Life by livingchrist: 7:21pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:leave sodom and gomorrah because you certainly do not believe in other scriptures focus on Jesus words only. Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. From Jesus words, do you see that people these people who do not believe in Christ would be present on the day of judgment? Meaning they will also be resurrected. Pay attention to the language and tenses used in each of the verses you post, please. Hell is damnation that has yet to happen since Jesus Christ Himself said He will judge. In Matthew 23 vs 33, Jesus Christ rightly speaks of damnation that is yet to come. Those who will be damned to Hell will be known after Jesus Christ returns again, not now.the condemnation Jesus is talking about is yet to come, look at the bolded. They shall not come into condemnation This is a future tense, meaning the condemnation is yet to come. So he that has everlasting life is saved from the condemnation that is coming. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkie: 7:29pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
livingchrist:Ok, keep going! Why will they be present on the day of judgment? ![]() livingchrist:The same verse tells you they are passed from Death into life. When does that take place? ![]() When you believe in Jesus Christ when you are alive and breathing on this earth or after Jesus Christ returns again to judge the world? ![]() |
Re: Eternal Life by livingchrist: 5:12pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Eternal life means not to suffer eternal punishment. Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. According to this verse eternal life means to escape everlasting punishment. |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkiee: 8:52pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
livingchrist:Eternal life(grace) also applies as far as those who are slated for eternal life in punishment. ![]() And since only those who believe in Jesus Christ have the eternal life of any kind, those who are slated for eternal life in punishment are also among His flock, only He refers to them as goats in the context of Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. ![]() |
Re: Eternal Life by livingchrist: 9:36pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee: So much for a liar! You claim to follow the words of Jesus but here you are denying what Jesus himself said. Where did Jesus tell you, 'there is eternal life in punishment' See your life, assumption upon assumption of what Jesus didnt say. Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. The truth is staring at your face, Jesus preached either you enter eternal life or you enter everlasting punishment. Jesus never taught everlasting life in punishment or whatever satanic teaching you made up. |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkiee: 11:03pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
livingchrist:Are those undergoing Eternal punishment in an eternally dead state? ![]() Do they not need to be alive or at least conscious for the punishment to be meaningful to begin with? ![]() And does there state of consciousness not need to be maintained Eternally for the punishment to indeed be an Eternal one? ![]() At this point it is clear that this is a comprehension problem and I don't know how else to explain for the umpteenth time that in this that Jesus Christ is the one and only source of eternal life(grace) be it spent in eternally in either Heaven or in Hell, in the Kingdom of God. ![]() |
Re: Eternal Life by orunto27: 11:26pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
We lost ETERNAL LIFE in ADAM AND EVE AND DIED. We regained it in CHRIST JESUS |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkiee: 11:47pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
orunto27:"Lost" implies we had it to begin with. Since Adam never got a chance to eat from the Tree of Life, we never had eternal life to begin with. ![]() |
Re: Eternal Life by orunto27: 8:24am On Apr 04, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee: If ADAM hadn't eaten the forbidden fruit, he would have been SUFFICIENT FOR THE SALVATION PLAN OF GOD FOR HUMANITY. GOD DROVE ADAM OUT TO PREVENT HIM FROM EATING FROM THE TREE OF ETERNAL LIFE. |
Re: Eternal Life by Kobojunkie: 9:18pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
orunto27:And since only those who believe in Jesus Christ and are saved as a result have eternal life(grace) which can then be spent either in Heaven or in Hell. ![]() |
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