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Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Sincere08(f): 8:46pm On Apr 13, 2011
Hello everyone,

I want to start by saying I am an African American woman under the age of 21. I recently have met an Igbo man. He's very sweet and kind, however I have read many things (although I don't believe everything I hear) and I would like some advice. To tell you a little more, studying takes up a great deal of my time. So I was not seeking a partner. I only have dated african american men, but I have been known to prefer darker skin.

I immediately noticed cultural differences within the first conversation. I am interested, I like the fact that he understands my family and school comes first. I will answer any further questions you may have about the relationship with no problem. Well friendship, like I previously stated we have not know each other long. To get to the point, he discusses many things with me about how Nigerians feel about Americans. He often compares me saying, "you are very different, such high morals to be American." Do many Nigerians share the view that a lot of Americans don't respect marriage? And that American women can be uncaring? If so, can a Nigerian truely care about an American that is considered to be "different" from what you're use to hearing?

Thanks in advance to anyone who replies
-Peace & Love  smiley

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by InkedNerd(f): 10:32pm On Apr 13, 2011
Well, I'd like to start of by saying welcome to Nairaland. I'm in Spanish class at the moment so I'll have to get back to this thread when I'm done with my class for the day. Overall, I hope you enjoy Nairaland.

P.S.
Try not to take everything on this site too seriously. Have fun wink

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Sincere08(f): 11:25pm On Apr 13, 2011
Thanks for the advice and warm welcome, I look forward to discussing things with you.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Thirst4Lif: 12:36am On Apr 14, 2011
He often compares me saying, "you are very different, such high morals to be American."

That sentence alone would be a major turn off for me. Clearly he doesn't have very much respect for African

Americans, which is laughable considering the heinous acts we hear about almost daily perpetrated on his own continent.

Sounds like a white person saying to a Black person, "I'm not racist, but, " then they go on to say something

derogatory against Black people. Your friend needs to clean up his comments. Let him know from the start you find

remarks such as the one above very offensive. Do not let it fester or he will continue to say demeaning things like that to you.

You're only 21 years old, there's no reason you should settle for anything in a man less than what you really desire!

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Sincere08(f): 2:17am On Apr 14, 2011
Thanks for your honest words. I don't know much about the culture and did not want to base his actions off of things I have read. I must admit that he is aware that there is good and bad people everywhere. For example, he told me that some Nigerians marry for illegal reasons and his family will accept him having an American wife depending on how she is presented. These statments aren't to justify his behavior, I am trying to give an unbiased summary. Another statement he made that I found to be offensive was that White Americans tend to be more naive or vulnerable. It sounded to me as though he was experienced on the kind of women that are easily manipulated. He also expressed that American skin is beautiful and he would like to have lighter skin. I am not sure if he is interested in learning more about the American culture or if he is just curious about the unknown.

I don't mean to be rude but if Nigerians feel that Americans are inferior why waste their time? I would much rather he hold three hour conversations, compliment, and spend his free time with a Nigerian women if that is what he prefers. As I said I was not seeking a partner, and will not settle for anything less than a great one. Besides those statements he is very sweet, but I am smart enough to know the tongue and mind combined can be deadly.

How should I express these sensitive issues to him? Thanks again, I hope my words are understood to be kind and concerned.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by DaRapture: 1:21pm On Apr 14, 2011
He's trying to play you for a sucker, Sis. Tell him to kick rocks next time he tries to slither his slimy self upon you.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by EzeUche(m): 2:17pm On Apr 14, 2011
The first thing that I would recommend is do not listen to anyone on Nairaland. Some groups are quite jealous and hate the Igbo people.

If you want to learn more about his people, ask himself or come to Igboland. Do not ask an internet forum. Ask him to take you to the cultural events. Yes, there are cultural differences, but I know many Igbo men who are happily married with African American women.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Sincere08(f): 5:11pm On Apr 14, 2011
@DaRapture, thank you for your advice.

@EZeUche, why do so many people show hatred toward the Igbo?
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Afam4eva(m): 6:30pm On Apr 14, 2011
Sincere08:

@EZeUche, why do so many people show hatred toward the Igbo?

Who do so many people show hatred towards Jews. Read the history of Nigeria and you'll learn more.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Sincere08(f): 6:50pm On Apr 14, 2011
I understand, African Americans face such hatred as well.

How great life could be if we all learned to respect each other

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by mbatuku1: 6:58pm On Apr 14, 2011
Sincere08:

@DaRapture, thank you for your advice.

@EZeUche, why do so many people show hatred toward the Igbo?

Not exactly everyone. The major culprits are Hausa-fulanis, Ijaws, (and to some degree by the Yorubas).

These are the major ethnic 'tribes' in Nigeria.

It's hard to tell the reasons why. But the civil war, jealousy, the conspicious presence of Igbos around the country may be factors.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Thirst4Lif: 7:12pm On Apr 14, 2011
Good advice regarding the cultural events. But surely those cultural differences don't include demeaming someone (or the women of that person's race)  he's about to enter into a relationship with.

@Sincere08 You are not dealing with an entire culture, your anxiety stems from ONE individual only. If your association

with this man leads to marriage, it is HE you will have to contend with. Which is why I suggested you speak with the man himself and express your

concerns. In regards to your question, "How should I express these sensitive issues to him?" Simply by saying to him, "There are some things

we've discussed in the past that I have concerns about," and proceed from there.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Sincere08(f): 7:25pm On Apr 14, 2011
@mbatuku1, thank you for your knowlege. I will continue to learn more about the culture for my own growth. I will not let things I have read or the actions of one Igbo man be the lens I see all Igbo men out of.

@Thirst4lif, attending cultural events sounds great. I will discuss everything with him later on today and update everyone.

However, I do have a major concern that no one seems to want to address. Is there a common belief that Americans aren't suitable for long-term relationships?
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Thirst4Lif: 7:30pm On Apr 14, 2011
Is there a common belief that Americans aren't suitable for long-term relationships?

It's really unfair to group all Americans. It's best to view each person separately regarding relationships. Some are good, some

are bad.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 5:38am On Apr 15, 2011
Sincere08:

I understand, African Americans face such hatred as well.

How great life could be if we all learned  to respect each other
The Hate is between Igbos and Yorubas, to be honest.

Same thing should be asked of the Igbos . . . .why do they hate Yorubas so much?

This continues to be a mystery to me. I came on NL looking to learn about a NIGERIAN culture, but was disappointing by the numerous hate-filled posts made by Igbos about the Yorubas. It makes no sense at all that even tho the Yorubas are very lenient and peaceful people, they acculturate easily and allow millions of Igbos in their land without violence (unless forced to), yet the Igbos still despise Yorubas.

Numerous threads discussing the unimportant issues lsuch as "Why do Yorubas wear Scarf" or "Why are the Yorubas dark-skinned" continues to litter the Racism adn Tribalism section. Igbos cannot continue to make "Igbo" topics threads  filled with hateful replies in context of the Yorubas  and expects the Yorubas to not reply. It's simply not done. There has never been a thread where the topics circulates around Igbos where Yorubas were not discussed.

Why so much hate towards the Yorubas? Anytime this section calms down. . . . another Igbo tries to "accentuate" the hate that the "Yorubas have for Igbos" by creating anti-Yoruba threads. . . . yet, he/she (with multiple IDs) expects the Yorubas not to defend themselves. Simply not done.



Please what can the Yorubas do to stop this hate? We're peace-loving people that tries so often to focus on our goals and success. This generation of Yorubas want to move forward, but the Igbos (because of their lost in the Nigerian-Civil war) continues to perpetuate their resentments towards the Yorubas.

Let's live and thrive.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by InkedNerd(f): 7:47am On Apr 15, 2011
@OP: Thirst4Lif has said most of it all in his first, second, and third post.

Sincere08:

@DaRapture, thank you for your advice.

@EZeUche, why do so many people show hatred toward the Igbo?

Honestly, please try not to pay attention or feed into the tribalism of this website. The ethnic tension and constant squabbling on this site can be very nauseating at times.

Sincere08:

@mbatuku1, thank you for your knowlege. I will continue to learn more about the culture for my own growth. I will not let things I have read or the actions of one Igbo man be the lens I see all Igbo men out of.

@Thirst4lif, attending cultural events sounds great. I will discuss everything with him later on today and update everyone.

However, I do have a major concern that no one seems to want to address. Is there a common belief that Americans aren't suitable for long-term relationships?

I don't wanna be a pessimist with my response but yes there can be at times a common belief  that Americans aren't suitable for long-term relationships but keep in mind, its not just a belief that is native to Nigerians. Take a look at other cultures and you'll see that others possess the same notion as well. Is it right, no but does it exist, yes.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Obiagu1(m): 5:22pm On Apr 15, 2011
Sincere08:

@mbatuku1, thank you for your knowlege. I will continue to learn more about the culture for my own growth. I will not let things I have read or the actions of one Igbo man be the lens I see all Igbo men out of.

@Thirst4lif, attending cultural events sounds great. I will discuss everything with him later on today and update everyone.

However, I do have a major concern that no one seems to want to address. Is there a common belief that Americans aren't suitable for long-term relationships?

Yes, there's a common believe that Americans, Whites and Blacks, are not suitable for long-term relationships.
Look around you, if you are as observant as Africans are, you'll notice how divorce is promoted in the America today. Every little squabble, misunderstanding, reconcilable differences, etc results in divorce.

In Igbo culture, divorce is rare and marriages are more or less between families and not just the two concerned. If there's a misunderstand, quarrel, etc, families get involved and try to resolve the issue, sometimes it takes days, months, but at the end of the day, it will be resolved for the good of the children.
Any Igbo or even other Nigerians that marry Americans take risks (and they know it) because the future of the marriage is not certain.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Thirst4Lif: 6:03pm On Apr 15, 2011
Yes, there's a common believe that Americans, Whites and Blacks, are not suitable for long-term relationships.
Look around you, if you are as observant as Africans are, you'll notice how divorce is promoted in the America today. Every little squabble, misunderstanding, reconcilable differences, etc results in divorce.

In Igbo culture, divorce is rare and marriages are more or less between families and not just the two concerned. If there's a misunderstand, quarrel, etc, families get involved and try to resolve the issue, sometimes it takes days, months, but at the end of the day, it will be resolved for the good of the children.
Any Igbo or even other Nigerians that marry Americans take risks (and they know it) because the future of the marriage is not certain.

And we certainly shouldn't ignore the Africans in America who are solving their marital issues by slaughtering their wives in record number.

Ironically, most if not all of these men are married to African women. I, for one, would have chosen divorce over a lifetime in prison.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Obiagu1(m): 4:32pm On Apr 16, 2011
Thirst4Lif:

And we certainly shouldn't ignore the Africans in America who are solving their marital issues by slaughtering their wives in record number.

Ironically, most if not all of these men are married to African women. I, for one, would have chosen divorce over a lifetime in prison.

Trying to score a cheat point does not add any substance to the question she asked, is there a common belief that Americans aren't suitable for long-term relationships?

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Thirst4Lif: 11:13pm On Apr 16, 2011
Trying to score a cheat point does not add any substance to the question she asked, is there a common belief that Americans aren't suitable for long-term relationships?

When did telling the truth become cheating? Is that rationale part of the Nigerian 'culture" as well?

Had you been reading you'd have noticed I answered that question a few posts back. See below.

It's really unfair to group all Americans. It's best to view each person separately regarding relationships. Some are good, some

are bad.

In all fairness I should have stated it's unfair to group all Americans as well as Africans. One seems to be as flawed as the other.

I can appreciate African Americans being proud as well as Africans, but let's not be hypocritical.  There is

far too much media coverage of illegal and illicit deeds performed by both Afircans as well as African Americans for either of us

to pretend our culture or your culture is perfect. That would be insane! Plus it would be far too easy to prove inaccurate.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by MrsChima(f): 12:34am On Apr 19, 2011
Keep in mind that those high divorce rates are MAINLY of celebrities. Many of these celebrities are not of American heritage and are immigrants from other countries. My thing is this if other groups value their cultures so much then they will not be divorcing each other in foreign countries.

Someone said that you can take a lion out the safari but it would still be a lion that is used to safari lifestyle. So the excuses for people blaming foreign countries for their inability to keep it real is sickening.

I agree with someone who said that their are African men who are killing their wives in America and these wives are AFRICAN WOMEN so what excuses do you have now? None. It is sad that one will kill before they will divorce someone they absolutely loathes and despises.

Sad.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 12:36pm On Apr 19, 2011
Mrs.Chima:

Keep in mind that those high divorce rates are MAINLY of celebrities.  Many of these celebrities are not of American heritage and are immigrants from other countries.  My thing is this if other groups value their cultures so much then they will not be divorcing each other in foreign countries. 

Someone said that you can take a lion out the safari but it would still be a lion that is used to safari lifestyle.   So the excuses for people blaming foreign countries for their inability to keep it real is sickening. 

I agree with someone who said that their are African men who are killing their wives in America and[b] these wives are AFRICAN WOMEN [/b]so what excuses do you have now?  None.  It is sad that one will kill before they will divorce someone they absolutely loathes and despises. 

Sad. 

Actually Chima one or two of those wives were not Naija, one of them being Jamo.  lipsrsealed undecided undecided
but i get what you are saying. Lack of tolerance, respect and ability to tame ones temper should not be excused
with claims of 'cultural shock'. Everyone knows that killing is wrong regardless of race, culture or s3x.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by InkedNerd(f): 6:05pm On Apr 19, 2011
Mrs.Chima:

Keep in mind that those high divorce rates are MAINLY of celebrities.  Many of these celebrities are not of American heritage and are immigrants from other countries.  My thing is this if other groups value their cultures so much then they will not be divorcing each other in foreign countries. 

Someone said that you can take a lion out the safari but it would still be a lion that is used to safari lifestyle.   So the excuses for people blaming foreign countries for their inability to keep it real is sickening. 

I agree with someone who said that their are African men who are killing their wives in America and these wives are AFRICAN WOMEN so what excuses do you have now?  None.  It is sad that one will kill before they will divorce someone they absolutely loathes and despises. 

Sad. 

In terms of media coverage, I would say yes many of those people in the divorce rate mentioned are celebrities but overall all, there is a high divorce rate in the US. And those people you mentioned not being of American heritage, although many of them may not be of American heritage, a lot of them are second or third generation children and are very much familiar with American culture. Its not like majority of them are "fresh of the boat" and have no understanding of American culture besides, if you do take a good look at some of these celebrities who's parents are not of American heritage you will see that many of them do come from countries where the sanctity of marriage is highly respected.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by MrsChima(f): 3:43am On Apr 20, 2011
MzDarkSkin:

Actually Chima one or two of those wives were not Naija, one of them being Jamo.  lipsrsealed undecided undecided
but i get what you are saying. Lack of tolerance, respect and ability to tame ones temper should not be excused
with claims of 'cultural shock'. Everyone knows that killing is wrong regardless of race, culture or s3x.


I hear what you are saying however that were two cases perhaps that identified the wives being non-African however there are African wives either being killed or abused because they decides to branch out of their "culture" and assimilate with the pop culture.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by MrsChima(f): 3:52am On Apr 20, 2011
Inked_Nerd:


In terms of media coverage, I would say yes many of those people in the divorce rate mentioned are celebrities but overall all, there is a high divorce rate in the US. And those people you mentioned not being of American heritage, although many of them may not be of American heritage, a lot of them are second or third generation children and are very much familiar with American culture. Its not like majority of them are "fresh of the boat" and have no understanding of American culture besides, if you do take a good look at some of these celebrities who's parents are not of American heritage you will see that many of them do come from countries where the sanctity of marriage is highly respected.




I am not saying that high divorce rate doesn't exist in US.  I am saying that we need to look at the people that are divorcing and if we are going to be statistically correct more white women are married in US than Black women. 

It is not common to see black couples in the limelight getting divorce however you will see either white women with white husbands getting divorced or white women with black husbands getting divorced.   Many of these celebrities that are divorcing or divorced are not American born.   

So again, we need to look at the people that are divorcing and not where they are divorcing from.  Even if these celebrities as you say are third generations the culture is still there if they respect their culture and honors it. 

No one can influence you if you don't allow it. 

I do not mean any offense, but women in Africa do not have the rights as they should when it come to lifestyle choices and being able to divorce their husbands if it proves to be unbearable.  No one should be in a marriage where they are being abused on a daily basis not knowing if they are going to live or die.  I am not saying it is the case for all but I do know for a fact that if a man divorce his wife she may be left with nothing.  So it makes sense for the woman that if she doesn't have a way out to even think about divorcing her husband.  I am willingly to bet that if the government favors women more in Africa the divorce rate would skyrocket as well.

I know for sure ANY WOMAN or man that is unhappy in their marriage will not stay in it if they had a choice.  Let keep it real.   

The MAIN reasons why divorce are so high in America because RICH people can afford it.  It is cheaper to get married than it is to get divorce.  That why I said most of the people who are divorcing all nilly willy are people with money.  A poor couple ARE not opting for divorce but a rich couple who doesn't love each other will pay that cash so they can dash. 

In America, women get half of the divorce settlement otherwise specified whereas in other regions are given nothing.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 1:28am On May 17, 2011
interesting thread.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by kony1(m): 1:55am On May 17, 2011
Mrs.Chima:

I am not saying that high divorce rate doesn't exist in US.  I am saying that we need to look at the people that are divorcing and if we are going to be statistically correct more white women are married in US than Black women. 

[b]It is not common to see black couples in the limelight getting divorce however you will see either white women with white husbands getting divorced or white women with black husbands getting divorced.   [i]Many of these celebrities that are divorcing or divorced are not American born[/i][/b].   


How do you figure most celebrity couples arent american born? I must be missing something.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by MsSophista(f): 6:23am On May 27, 2011
IN ALL HONESTY AMERICANS GET DIVORCE MORE DUE TO CULTURAL ALLOWANCES; WHEREAS AFRICANS DON'T GET DIVORCED DUE TO CULTURAL PROHIBITIONS/TRADITIONS. UNHAPPY DIVORCEES, UNHAPPY MARRIAGES. WHAT'S THE POINT? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BOTH ARE IMBALANCED?

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Ybutterfly: 7:51pm On Aug 14, 2012
^^^^^^^^^^^IGBO AND AA MARRY EACH OTHER LIKE RABBITS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by MrsChima(f): 8:15pm On Aug 14, 2012
Op

Did you get married?
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by ifyalways(f): 9:01pm On Aug 14, 2012
Good question @ Chima.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 9:44pm On Aug 14, 2012
AAs and the problem they have with have/has....smh

@Thread: If you are one of the exception, u hv nothing to worry about.
No, we think you guys are wayward, no brain having morons but then again, there are exceptions(lol). Truth be told, Nigerians tend to love and claim those exceptions.
1st sign: He picks a Nigerian name to call you by

In shut, i have a Nigerian friend that is courting an AA that was my roommate in college. She was more or less a sister to me. I kinda made her Nigerian after some time though, the guy is extra crazy about her. She was and still remains an exception to most AAs i've come in contact with. #honestly

In shut there is no need for me to write an essay, he says you're an exception. That's a good thing!
Do most Nigerians think highly of AAs - NO!!

[size=5pt]Another thing i've noticed is i tend to love AAs that went to a predominantly white high school[/size]

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