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Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:29am On Apr 16, 2011
Watch Pastor W.F. Kumuyi ministering at Sunday Adelaja's church in Ukraine.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WodGUtPX8l8
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:18pm On Apr 16, 2011
Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary. Day 2 (With testimonies from the previous message).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTr6zXjV4bk
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by isquar3d3(m): 10:39am On Apr 18, 2011
cnt watch d video 4 nw.wats d topic of hs msg. Hw recent nd is d oda guy interpreting?
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by Joagbaje(m): 12:19pm On Apr 18, 2011
So pastor kumuyi is into healing too? I've not seen this in his programmes (few though) that I watched. The power that worketh in us. where are the people who doubts the gifts of healing in the body of christ? Healing fire is spreading all over the world.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:16pm On Apr 18, 2011
isquar3d3:

cnt watch d video 4 nw.wats d topic of hs msg. Hw recent nd is d oda guy interpreting?

The message was about the kingdom faith, authority and power was preached on March ending.  The other guy interpreting is pastor Sunday Adelaja the senior pastor of God Embassy.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by newmi(m): 9:42pm On Apr 18, 2011
Where are all the critics of miracle and healing let them come and see even the demons in Ukraine understand English lol
We celebrate the grace of God in that meeting, we pray the doors of more and more nations will be open to the gospel
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by REALTRUTH1: 11:28pm On Apr 18, 2011
"All true progress has been caused by new ideas that came about through the willingness to question what most people see as unquestionable. You are more than your beliefs. If one of your beliefs turns out not to be true, you won't cease to exist. Relax, Question everything be curious and Imagine."
With all due respect to Pastor Kumuyi(Probably about the only Pastor I ve respect for in Nigeria),,why can't he preach to these white people and Pastor Suday Adelaja's wife that wearing of earings and pants(jeans trousers) and not covering of hair is a sin or unchristianed? If these people receive miracles with their hair uncovered,,why can't Deeper Life members in Ayobo Ipaja Lagos receive thesame miracles or worship God freely with their hair uncovered and wearing Jeans trousers?
This same question I have asked members of RCCG why is it there are two different sets of Church in RCCG?? why do we have the classical and the model parishes in Classical they look like deeper life and in the model they look and appear like Christ embassy(Pastor Chris),,This to me is the height of confussion,,,or am I the only one seeing these things?
Finally, why can't Pastor Kumuyi go and preach at Chris OKotie's church or Christ embassy(Pastor Chris),,atleast these churches appears and looks like Sunday Adelaja's church,,,,
The truth is that so many things re wrong with the way Christianity is practices these days and absolutely no one of the promoters or business men pastors wants to come out openly to address these questions,,,

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Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by REALTRUTH1: 11:31pm On Apr 18, 2011
@ Newmi,,Olaadegbu,,Joagbaje,,Please I expect and requests that the three of you to respond to my above questions,,,,
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by Joagbaje(m): 5:33am On Apr 19, 2011
And who says anything is wrong with a lady wearing a trouser or not covering hair. The ukraine experience should prove to you God is not concerned about those things we religiously fight over. The bible says that God doesnt look at the outward appearance but at the heart . If he heals a woman in pants and she was acceptable in his sight , we ought to check our theology.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by isquar3d3(m): 3:12pm On Apr 19, 2011
@real truth. Pastor kumuyi is nd remains IMO, a standard bearer nd an uncompromising man of God. Having said dt, lemme try 2 explain sm of ur questns.
1. Evn in d deeper life churches in europe nd america, u stil find many wt uncovered heads. D bible made us 2 understand in 1 corinthians 11:5,6,15 that a woman shld cover her hair. Bt in verse 15, d bible say that 'but if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a COVERING. This means that a woman with natural long hair(not attachment o) can say that her hair is a covering. D europeans r used 2 dt as a way of life nd u can't just expect a pastor 2 climb a pulpit nd start condemning pple. Even Jesus did nt condemn d prostitute bt told her 2 go nd sin no more. If they read d bible, they wil find answers. U can't force urself on anybody. If a pastor doesn't invite Kumuyi, wil he just gatecrash into his church? B4 d pastor nd his wife invited Kumuyi, they must have known or heard wat he stands for bt yet, they stil invited him. Y wil miracles nt take place there wen they've clearly prepared themselves 2 listen 2 God's word.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by REALTRUTH1: 10:59am On Apr 20, 2011
Joagbaje:

And who says anything is wrong with a lady wearing a trouser or not covering hair. The ukraine experience should prove to you God is not concerned about those things we religiously fight over. The bible says that God doesnt look at the outward appearance but at the heart . If he heals a woman in pants and she was acceptable in his sight , we ought to check our theology.
Its sad when we see the truth looking into our faces and we can't say its the truth,,,,,ask any member of CEC,,,to go to Deeper life church service on a with their jeans trousers and their hair uncovered,,,then you would know better. Or do you want to tell me you re not aware of RCCG classical and Model parishes,,,,whereas the classical dresses like deeper life and the model dresses like Christ embassy,,,,,
My concern is the leaders of these churches are putting their members in perpetual confussion,,,if am a member of RCCG,,,I definitely would prefer attending the model parish as compare to the classical,,,,
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by REALTRUTH1: 11:03am On Apr 20, 2011
isquar3d3:
@real truth. Pastor kumuyi is nd remains IMO, a standard bearer nd an uncompromising man of God. Having said dt, lemme try 2 explain sm of your questns.1. Evn in d deeper life churches in europe nd america, u stil find many wt uncovered heads. D bible made us 2 understand in 1 corinthians 11:5,6,15 that a woman shld cover her hair. Bt in verse 15, d bible say that 'but if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a COVERING. This means that a woman with natural long hair(not attachment o) can say that her hair is a covering. D europeans r used 2 dt as a way of life nd u can't just expect a pastor 2 climb a pulpit nd start condemning pple. Even Jesus did nt condemn d love-peddler bt told her 2 go nd sin no more. If they read d bible, they wil find answers. U can't force urself on anybody. If a pastor doesn't invite Kumuyi, wil he just gatecrash into his church? B4 d pastor nd his wife invited Kumuyi, they must have known or heard wat he stands for bt yet, they stil invited him. Y wil miracles nt take place there wen they've clearly prepared themselves 2 listen 2 God's word.
So the Deeper life in europe and america serve a different God than the ones in Africa and Nigeria? The thing is,,,its almost absolutely difficult to use religion control people in the west,,,because they ve had a history of a fair amount of people being manipulated by religion,,,,,
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by donnie(m): 11:24am On Apr 20, 2011
I have always known pastor Kumuyi to b a balanced preacher and an annointd man of God. His messages bless me each time i listen to them. He also has been in the healing n miracle ministry for several years.
LOVE is the gratest force in the world and the love of Christ continues to be the unifying force of the Church of Jesus Christ in these last days.
Deeper life and Christ embassy have more in common than many have cared to observe.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by Image123(m): 1:07pm On Apr 20, 2011
@all
Just thought i should add this,
Jesus is the foundation of the christian faith, nothing else. Not doctrine, not healing, not miracle, not giving, not tongues, nothing but Christ. Christians do need to grow into the knowledge and perspective of God. Every part of the body of Christ cannot be shouldnot be expected to do the same thing. Not every part of your body can walk, or chew, or write, but they are all parts of the same body and ought to be united to the PRIMARY goal of life, in this case ETERNAL LIFE. You can't trade eternal life for nothing else. The gift of God is eternal life, it is Christ, it's the Head. We all should grow in thee art of holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. Doctrine is not foundation, Christ is foundation, eternal life is foundation. you can have the right doctrine and miss Heaven, you can have healings and miracles and miss Heaven, you can have prosperity and miss Heaven, you cannot have eternal life and miss Heaven.
It ought not to be a question of Kumuyi did not say this to that. can he? i think so. should he?maybe or maybe not, it depends. He ought to get his message from God, not me. So are his church members missing out in this big deal, or is doctrine useless, and all that matters is eternal life? no and a capital NO. That's where rewards come in, eternal rewards to be specific. Never forget, the foundation is Christ, is eternal life, and it is primary, PRIORITY. But you're supposed to build on the foundation nonetheless. Some people build superstructures on no foundation, that's bad but superstructure nonetheless. It's the example of having good doctrine, but no life. There's no wrong in having a superstructure on the right foundation.
1Corinthians 3:11 For other[b] foundation[/b] can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
If you don't have doctrine, you may still get to Heaven but will have little reward compared to those who have good Bible doctrines. There's a reward to obeying God's Word. Let's not be misguided into thinking that God is not watching.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

God's not going to build for you by Himself. It's what you build. Your building doesn't determine salvation or eternal life, the Foundation does. Headcovering, miracles, prophecy, giving, wearing this or not, they do not directly effect your eternal life, but they are the structures you build nonetheless, not that they don't matter or that God is not concerned. it's never time to laugh at others or make carnal comparisons. It's time to build, to build with gold at best, to build according to biblical patterns.

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Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by Snowwy: 2:06pm On Apr 20, 2011
Image123:

1Corinthians 3:11 For other[b] foundation[/b] can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.



Image123,
God bless you. Never has this scripture 'jumped out to me' more than what you just expantiated.
Thanks for the insight.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by Image123(m): 2:53pm On Apr 21, 2011
@snowwy
All thanks be to God who makes the entrance of His Word bring us all light and understanding.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:43pm On Apr 25, 2011
Did anybody take note of the testimony of a spectacular miracle in one of those videoclips?  A man who had an eye replaced with a prosthetic one was miraculously healed.  When the guy went for medical check up it was discovered that nerves had grown into the prosthetic eye and he could see through it.  What a wonderful God we serve!
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by REALTRUTH1: 9:32pm On Apr 25, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

Did anybody take note of the testimony of a spectacular miracle in one of those videoclips? A man who had an eye replaced with a prosthetic one was miraculously healed. When the guy went for medical check up it was discovered that nerves had growing into the prosthetic eye and he could see through it. What a wonderful God we serve!
Bro,,,the thing is not necessarily about miracles,,,if its miracles the Bible has warned of all kinfds of miracles in this last and evil days,,,,
Now hear this,,,,the first time I ever experienced or witnessed a practical miracle in my life time was Ayobo,,by same Pastor Kumuyi,,,,If anybody had told me this story,,,I would have doubted it,,,,but since I personally experienced it,,,then one or I could say miracles re actually and it does happen.
Here is what happened,,Pastor Kumuyi had a word of knowledge that someone whose one of leg(specifically mentioned the left leg) is shorter than the other one,,,he requested that the person should sit down on the floor and the man was right besides me,,I watched him while he sat down,,I saw clearly that the left leg was shorter,,,Pastor now said,,all heads bow and eyes closed,,I bowed my head but with my eyes open,,,I saw clearly how the left leg grew with just a very specific short prayer.

Now,what I want to know is why can't somebody answer my questions above properly
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by REALTRUTH1: 9:35pm On Apr 25, 2011
Joagbaje:

And who says anything is wrong with a lady wearing a trouser or not covering hair. The ukraine experience should prove to you God is not concerned about those things we religiously fight over. The bible says that God doesnt look at the outward appearance but at the heart . If he heals a woman in pants and she was acceptable in his sight , we ought to check our theology.
Your response above is very disappointing,,,do you want to tell me you don't know its unacceptable to wear trousers at deeper life? Or why can't Christ Embassy be like deeper life in their outward disposition,,,if you try it,,ur membership would reduce drastically by 90%,,,,,
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:21pm On Apr 25, 2011
REAL TRUTH:
 
Bro,,,the thing is not necessarily about miracles,,,if its miracles the Bible has warned of all kinfds of miracles in this last and evil days,,,,

You got a valid point there.  We know that the counterfeit is the evidence of the original.  If Moses could use his rod to produce a snake at the court of Pharaoh what stops the magicians from producing their own?  Churches who emphasis on miracles, prosperity and healing at the expense of true repentance and salvation attract a lot of people even genuine believers.  This should not make us believe that God is no more in the business of blessing his people.   

REAL TRUTH:

Now hear this,,,,the first time I ever experienced or witnessed a practical miracle in my life time was Ayobo,,by same Pastor Kumuyi,,,,If anybody had told me this story,,,I would have doubted it,,,,but since I personally experienced it,,,then one or I could say miracles re actually and it does happen.
Here is what happened,,Pastor Kumuyi had a word of knowledge that someone whose one of leg(specifically mentioned the left leg) is shorter than the other one,,,he requested that the person should sit down on the floor and the man was right besides me,,I watched him while he sat down,,I saw clearly that the left leg was shorter,,,Pastor now said,,all heads bow and eyes closed,,I bowed my head but with my eyes open,,,I saw clearly how the left leg grew with just a very specific short prayer.

I praise the Lord that you are a living witness of some of those miracles that would stop critics in their track.  But this will not stop some charlatans out there from playing their own tricks. 

REAL TRUTH:

Now,what I want to know is why can't somebody answer my questions above properly

Pastor Kumuyi would only preach where he has been invited and his mission is to preach the kingdom of God and its righteousness.  He will not begin to tell pastors how they are to run their churches as they would be accountable to God alone.  It is another thing if they ask for his advise.  You may be glad to know that Sunday Adelaja got converted when he listened to Pastor Kumuyi's message on the television while he was still in the secondary school in Nigeria.  He later had to travel to the USSR to study and work.  It was there that he started his church that is now the largest church in Europe, if Ukraine can be counted to be in Europe.  It is the only church that I know of that boasts of about 25,000 people mainly Caucasians who's pastor is a black man, and that in a country that doesn't have much to say about blacks.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by Image123(m): 1:29am On Apr 26, 2011
Wow, these are gladdening news, both of pastor adelaja and of the healings. Who says God does not heal amputees. Is that an 'amputated eye' healed in 2011 in europe? even in the grave, Jesus is Lord. Alleluia
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:52am On Apr 26, 2011
Image123:

Wow, these are gladdening news, both of pastor adelaja and of the healings. Who says God does not heal amputees. Is that an 'amputated eye' healed in 2011 in europe? even in the grave, Jesus is Lord. Alleluia

No. The "amputated" eye was healed miraculously in South Africa and I think Pastor Kumuyi gave his name. As a direct result of this testimony many people in Ukraine got healed in their sights as you can see in the second videoclip, all to the glory of God.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by Image123(m): 11:58am On Apr 26, 2011
Hallelujah

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Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:12pm On Apr 26, 2011
Image123:

Hallelujah

Glory be to God. I pray that this will lead to the salvation of their souls and the strengthening of the body of Christ.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by nuella2(f): 9:47am On Apr 28, 2011
wow!!! God is awesome.

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Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:55pm On Apr 28, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

Watch Pastor W.F. Kumuyi ministering at Sunday Adelaja's church in Ukraine.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WodGUtPX8l8

This spectacular miracle happened in Pretoria, S. Africa.  Pastor Kumuyi is here narrating the testimony to the audience who in turn received their own healings after prayers.  On 0:34:30 in the videoclip above, Pastor Kumuyi was teaching on the eyesight and vision of the eagle and led the audience in prayer.  There was a man who armed robbers had shot in the eye at the traffic lights and drove away with his car.  The Doctors had replaced his bad eye with a prosthethic eye, and this man was at the meeting on a Friday night.  After prayer the guy went home and on waking up the following morning to his surprise he could see through the prosthetic eye.  He went to church which was on a Saturday and informed the pastor saying that could not understand how he could see through the prosthetic eye.  The pastor told him to go and see the doctor, the doctor tested it and confirmed that he could see.  For some reason the doctor wanted to bring out the prosthetic eye but couldn't because new nerves had grown with the prosthethic eye.  Many years later Pastor Kumuyi saw the brother and found out that the prosthethic eye was still good.

Fast-forward to 0:46:35 and you will hear another spectacular testimony of a woman who had a hysterectomy done on her due to some disease but she was prayed for and told to start buying baby stuff.  She conceived and gave birth to a baby, she came to church with the doctor who performed the hysterectomy to the glory of God.
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by Image123(m): 12:17pm On Apr 29, 2011
Hallelujah, to God be the glory. For the God of peace would bruise satan under you. Glory, honour, power and Strength be to Jehovah God.

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Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:11am On May 02, 2011
Image123:

Hallelujah, to God be the glory. For the God of peace would bruise satan under you. Glory, honour, power and Strength be to Jehovah God.

Amen.

Bruising the Devil
May 1, 2011

"And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen" (Romans 16:20).

This is an intriguing promise, suggesting that believers can somehow inflict bruises on the devil, who is perpetually seeking to "devour" them (1 Peter 5:cool.  This promise is a clear allusion to the primeval assurance of Genesis 3:15, when God promised that the unique "seed" of "the woman" would eventually "bruise" (actually "crush"wink the head of the old serpent, the devil.  This prophecy will finally be fulfilled in Christ's ultimate victory, when Satan first will be bound for a thousand years in the bottomless pit and then confined forever in the lake of fire (Revelation 20:2, 10).

In the meantime believers, who also in a sense are the woman's spiritual "seed" (Revelation 12:17), can repeatedly achieve local and temporary victories over Satan and his wiles by resisting him "Stedfast in the faith" (1 Peter 5:9).  If we resist him as Jesus did, with relevant Scripture, then God promises that he will "flee from you" (James 4:7).  Such local victories can be obtained over these dangerous teachers whom Satan is using (note Romans 16:17-19, just preceding today's text) "shortly" in this manner, but we need to be continually alert against his recurrent attacks.  The ultimate victory over Satan, of course, will be won only by the Lord Jesus when He returns, and we must "be sober, be vigilant" (1 Peter 5:cool until that time.

Whether we are aware of it or not, we must perpetually "wrestle . . . against the rulers of the darkness of this world" (Ephesians 6:12), who will be casting "fiery darts" (v. 16) against each believer.  Finally, with the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God (v. 17), we can even by God's grace inflict spiritual wounds on Satan himself! HMM

For more . . . .
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:17am On May 03, 2011
REAL TRUTH:

Now hear this,,,,the first time I ever experienced or witnessed a practical miracle in my life time was Ayobo,,by same Pastor Kumuyi,,,,If anybody had told me this story,,,I would have doubted it,,,,but since I personally experienced it,,,then one or I could say miracles re actually and it does happen.
Here is what happened,,Pastor Kumuyi had a word of knowledge that someone whose one of leg(specifically mentioned the left leg) is shorter than the other one,,,he requested that the person should sit down on the floor and the man was right besides me,,I watched him while he sat down,,I saw clearly that the left leg was shorter,,,Pastor now said,,all heads bow and eyes closed,,I bowed my head but with my eyes open,,,I saw clearly how the left leg grew with just a very specific short prayer.

This is a confirmation and testimony to the miracle working power of God.  The person with experience is not at the mercy of the person with an argument.  Praise the Lord, somebody!
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:32am On May 06, 2011
Pastor Kumuyi's testimony about Pastor Sunday Adelaja, speaking of the genuine work of God being done in Ukraine.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSrRHq5tvG0
Re: Pastor W.F. Kumuyi @ God Embassy's 17th Anniversary in Ukraine by EarsWide(m): 11:53am On May 06, 2011
@OLAADEGBU

I just read somewhere that members of Deeper Life are not allowed to watch television, is this true ?

Also are there marriage committees to decide on marriage partners ?

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