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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 10:46am On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:


Your choice to accept God and live a sinless life is a personal choice and God will not force you.
Since the god sent its son to save the world from sin and for folks to choose between heaven and hell, what of those that died before this Jesus was born?

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 10:47am On Mar 28, 2021
kingxsamz:


Omo this your logic no be here o.
"I haven't seen anyone who hasn't heard about Superman, therefore, everyone have heard about superman". grin grin grin
But keep up with the willful ignorance, at least it keeps you safe in your religious bubble. grin
Bros, name one person and come back and tell me who it is. But for now, I do not have enough faith to be an Atheist grin
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Nobody: 10:49am On Mar 28, 2021
1Sharon:


Some ppl are homeless and can't afford soap
According to budaatum, you don't understand the English of the Bible.

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 10:49am On Mar 28, 2021
naijapips04:


Why should there be an option to defile? And oh remember he already knows the end from the beginning so he knew absolutely that you are going to defile.

That is like you saying why should there be free will? If there were no option of free will, then you and I will be forced to serve God. And God does not want that ; He wants you to choose. Which is why the option of free will (not defilement) is there.

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Nobody: 10:54am On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
That is like you saying why should there be free will? If there were no option of free will, then you and I will be forced to serve God. And God does not want that ; He wants you to choose. Which is why the option of free will (not defilement) is there.
Go and meet budaatum!
Budaatum will teach how to be dishonest in debates like this!
You will learn how to deny what you did without remorse!!!!
You will learn how to accuse anyone that agrees or/and disagrees with you of being lazy!!!!!!
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by naijapips04: 10:54am On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
That is like you saying why should there be free will? If there were no option of free will, then you and I will be forced to serve God. And God does not want that ; He wants you to choose. Which is why the option of free will (not defilement) is there.

But he already knows what your choices would be even before you were born. That's not even what I'm asking. I'm asking a very basic question. Why would an extremely intelligent designer as you say, design and build a substandard product even when he has the power and know how to do better?

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 11:11am On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
Bros, name one person and come back and tell me who it is. But for now, I do not have enough faith to be an Atheist grin

You and I know your poor logic is flawed but since you no want make I open your yansh, you're feigning ignorance. Omo. grin grin grin

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 11:13am On Mar 28, 2021
kingxsamz:

Since the god sent its son to save the world from sin and for folks to choose between heaven and hell, what of those that died before this Jesus was born?

@Jashub abi the question choke you? cheesy
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 11:14am On Mar 28, 2021
naijapips04:


But he already knows what your choices would be even before you were born. That's not even what I'm asking. I'm asking a very basic question. Why would an extremely intelligent designer as you say, design and build a substandard product even when he has the power and know how to do better?
Choices in what sense? When God created you, he knew you would be an atheist, but then again, you chose to be an atheist out of your own free will. So in that aspect, God is just.

And as for the Designer question : God created man perfect(Gen :2:25), but man chose to willingly disobey God. And he did this out of his own free will. So man responsible for being a "sub standard " product because of his choice, not God's.
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 11:15am On Mar 28, 2021
kingxsamz:


You and I know your poor logic is flawed but since you no want make I open your yansh, you're feigning ignorance. Omo. grin grin grin
Just a name please. Please give me a name
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by naijapips04: 11:20am On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
Choices in what sense? When God created you, he knew you would be an atheist, but then again, you chose to be an atheist out of your own free will. So in that aspect, God is just.

And as for the Designer question : God created man perfect(Gen :2:25), but man chose to willingly disobey God. And he did this out of his own free will. So man responsible for being a "sub standard " product because of his choice, not God's.

That you can soil yourself means you are imperfect. A perfect car wouldn't have a breakdown option.

They are not exactly my choices if even before I was born those choices have been known already.

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 11:22am On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
Just a name please. Please give me a name

You're not bright at all. cheesy
See you lying to yourself.
Even less intelligent Christian folks would agree that not everyone in the world has heard about your Jesus. But go off and make yourself feel comfortable in the bubble of ignorance you've created for yourself. cheesy

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by IndustryEight: 11:30am On Mar 28, 2021
naijapips04:


If you could make a body that doesn't need bathing, would we still need soaps?



This question is a mind blower.

Geez!!!
Why would you need to bath, if you could create a perfect body which doesn't require bathing?

Of what use are the soaps for?

I cut my agbada for you bro.

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by 1Sharon(f): 11:33am On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
So that means they constantly walk about dirty abi? Tell me: name one person you know that has never taken a bath with soap before.

Yes silly. They walk around dirty because they are homeless
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 11:56am On Mar 28, 2021
kingxsamz:


@Jashub abi the question choke you? cheesy
Bros, are you looking for the truth or, are you on a happiness quest? Because I sense you're looking at God from a moral objection point of view. And that's not gonna help you.

Now read this verses:

Acts 17:26-27:

26 From one man He made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and He marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27.God did this so that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from any one of us


Pay attention to the bolded.

Now how do we know this is true...?

1 Everyone knows that God exist through conscience and nature.

2. Some say that those who don't know Jesus can be saved if they seek God. Just like the old testament saint: they did not know Jesus, but they knew God. Even Paul the apostle said the Gospel was preached unto Abraham who came before Christ(Gal3:cool ; and he was saved.

3 There are those who wouldn't have believe even if they existed in Jesus' time and heard Him.

And it could also be that God chose to place them in history at times which they would have knowledge of Him. And some would reject (just the way you're doing).
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 11:56am On Mar 28, 2021
1Sharon:


Yes silly. They walk around dirty because they are homeless
I said name one person.
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 11:58am On Mar 28, 2021
kingxsamz:


You're not bright at all. cheesy
See you lying to yourself.
Even less intelligent Christian folks would agree that not everyone in the world has heard about your Jesus. But go off and make yourself feel comfortable in the bubble of ignorance you've created for yourself. cheesy
Just a name will do. And for your information, you're among those who've heard about Jesus. So you're morally accountable to God. grin
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 12:06pm On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
Just a name will do.

That's a dumb request.
And that's like saying everyone knows Superman because most people know superman. Try something else guy. You feign ignorance all you want, deep down you know you're deceiving yourself but go on.


And for your information, you're among those who've heard about Jesus. So you're morally accountable to God. grin
And according to you, every single person on earth both old and young, but those isolated tribes and villages in parts of the world were Christianity isn't dominant or widely practiced have heard about your Jesus.
Dey decieve yourself. grin grin grin grin

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 12:10pm On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
Bros, are you looking for the truth or, are you on a happiness quest? Because I sense you're looking at God from a moral objection point of view. And that's not gonna help you.

Now read this verses:

Acts 17:26-27:

26 From one man He made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and He marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27.God did this so that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from any one of us


Pay attention to the bolded.

Now how do we know this is true...?

1 Everyone knows that God exist through conscience and nature.

2. Some say that those who don't know Jesus can be saved if they seek God. Just like the old testament saint: they did not know Jesus, but they knew God. Even Paul the apostle said the Gospel was preached unto Abraham who came before Christ(Gal3:cool ; and he was saved.

3 There are those who wouldn't have believe even if they existed in Jesus' time and heard Him.

And it could also be that God chose to place them in history at times which they would have knowledge of Him. And some would reject (just the way you're doing).


Story.
If your all perfect god only needed humans to know it or believe in it to get into heaven, then why did it send this Jesus to die? Perhaps this Jesus died for nothing? grin
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 12:11pm On Mar 28, 2021
kingxsamz:


That's a dumb request.
And that's like saying everyone knows Superman because most people know superman. Try something else guy. You feign ignorance all you want, deep down you know you're deceiving yourself but go on.


And according to you, every single person on earth both old and young, but those isolated tribes and villages in parts of the world were Christianity isn't dominant or widely practiced have heard about your Jesus.
Dey decieve yourself. grin grin grin grin
I'm still waiting for the answer. But since you're frustrated I'll leave you to wallow in your own mire. grin
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 12:14pm On Mar 28, 2021
kingxsamz:

Story.
If your all perfect god only needed humans to know it or believe in it to get into heaven, then why did it send this Jesus to die? Perhaps this Jesus died for nothing? grin
You're frustrated. The bible says all have sinned and have come short of the glory of God. So no one is innocent ; not even you. And the penalty for sin is death. Which is why Jesus came to die ; God came to pay a price you could never pay. Its that's simple. Embrace Jesus and you'll be greatly released from the current confusion you're facing grin
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 12:16pm On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
You're frustrated. The bible says all have sinned and have come short of the glory of God. So no one is innocent ; not even you. And the penalty for sin is death. Which is Jesus came to die ; God came to pay a price you could never pay. Its that's simple.

See how you're confusing and contradicting yourself. grin grin grin
If all have sinned and the penalty of sin is death/hell and this Jesus came to die.. What of those who died before this Jesus was born, and why are people still dying now? grin
Confusion.

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Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 12:18pm On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
I'm still waiting for the answer. But since you're frustrated I'll leave you to wallow in your own mire. grin

Is this you running away from logic? grin grin grin
And you dey form intelligent. Chai. grin grin grin
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 12:22pm On Mar 28, 2021
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kingxsamz:


See how you're confusing and contradicting yourself. grin grin grin
If all have sinned and the penalty of sin is death/hell and this Jesus came to die.. What of those who died before this Jesus was born, and why are people still dying now? grin
Confusion.
[/s] You're scribbling rubbish. I can't even piece together what it is you're blabbering about. But its okay sha...such is the manifold blessings of confusion in the life of one who does not know God. cheesy
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 1:38pm On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
[s][/s] You're scribbling rubbish. I can't even piece together what it is you're blabbering about. But its okay sha...such is the manifold blessings of confusion in the life of one who does not know God. cheesy
I don paralyze this one.
No more weak comebacks.
When you're ready to answer my question, let me know. grin grin grin
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 1:44pm On Mar 28, 2021
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kingxsamz:

I don paralyze this one.
No more weak comebacks.
When you're ready to answer my question, let me know. grin grin grin
[/s] When you're ready to provide one person who hasn't heard about Jesus, then we'll continue. Until then, lick your wounds in piece. wink
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 1:48pm On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
[s][/s] When you're ready to provide one person who hasn't heard about Jesus, then we'll continue. Until then, lick your wounds in piece. wink

grin grin grin E pain am...
Maybe he didn't see the question coming...
That's what happens when you defend fairytales... You'll confuse, contradict and bite yourself in the tail. grin
Go and cry somewhere else abeg. This one hook your throat. grin grin
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by BetterChurch: 1:53pm On Mar 28, 2021
geoworldedu:
God is a big-time failure. Sending his son to die for the sins of the world but since continued like ever before. What a monumental failure.

The death of anyone can't atone for sins. It's a deliberate design to blind those who so choose from the consequences of their actions.
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Jashub: 2:02pm On Mar 28, 2021
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kingxsamz:


grin grin grin E pain am...
Maybe he didn't see the question coming...
That's what happens when you defend fairytales... You'll confuse, contradict and bite yourself in the tail. grin
Go and cry somewhere else abeg. This one hook your throat. grin grin
[/s] I answered all your questions. But the one question I threw, you couldn't answer. Which makes me wonder the sort of self-delusions you're having. grin
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by kingxsamz(m): 2:19pm On Mar 28, 2021
Jashub:
[s][/s] I answered all your questions. But the one question I threw, you couldn't answer. Which makes me wonder the sort of self-delusions you're having. grin
Typing behind tears. grin
When your sky daddy have finished telling you the answer, let me know.
If all have sinned and the penalty of sin is death/hell and this Jesus came to die.. What of those who died before this Jesus was born, and why are people still dying now?
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Dtruthspeaker: 3:28pm On Mar 28, 2021
Myer:


What makes him a Satanist?
Do you have any evidence that he worships Satan?.

Haba! It is Written "Even a child is known by his doings , whether his work be pure or whether it be right" (or evil).

Look at his works (post) and come to your own conclusions for it is Written "By their Fruits, ye shall know them!

You must be new here!
Re: God Failed And Wasted His Son For Nothing by Dtruthspeaker: 3:31pm On Mar 28, 2021
Myer:

If the Bible says God sacrificed his only begotten son to take away the sins of the world, how come sin is still rife in the world even over 2000 years after?

Even Christians commit some of the worst sins that unbelievers don't simply because they believe they have a sinless life in Christ. No amount of sin they commit stops them from heaven just because they claim to believe in Jesus right?

Today being palm Sunday, Christians are celebrating the entrance of Jesus to Jerusalem to fulfill one purpose, to take away the sins of men by bringing the kingdom of heaven on earth through his death and resurrection.

2000 years after, does this world look like the kingdom of heaven to you? Has sin stopped even among Christians?

Answer this in all honesty if you can.


These are your own questions not his and I will answer them.

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