samuk:
[s]After accusing me of inserting my opinions and assumptions. You now left the historical narrative that was mostly qouted verbatim and went on a long epistle of your own opinions and assumptions, something you criticised me of doing.

The historical narratives I am presenting are for those that can make use of their thinking capabilities, not for you. I would have been very surprised if you have jumped this one without commenting.

According to you:

1. Benin was peacefully invited to Lagos, infact Benin begged for a small piece of land. But you forget that they went their with a barracks load of soldiers.

2. The Alaafin also peacefully invited Benin to come and put down the rebels that was threatening his domain.

3. The Ikere people peacefully summoned Benin to mediate in a dispute. You also forget Benin went their with such military force that the geography of areas changed forever. Traditional rulers lost their heads.

You would have liked everyone to believe that Benin never crossed Ore town if not for the overwhelming evidences.[/s]

samuk:


After accusing me of inserting my opinions and assumptions. You now left the historical narrative that was mostly qouted verbatim and went on a long epistle of your own opinions and assumptions, something you criticised me of doing.

The historical narratives I am presenting are for those that can make use of their thinking capabilities, not for you. I would have been very surprised if you have jumped this one without commenting.

According to you:

1. Benin was peacefully invited to Lagos, infact Benin begged for a small piece of land. But you forget that they went there with a barracks load of soldiers.

2. The Alaafin also peacefully invited Benin to come and put down the rebels that was threatening his domain.

3. The Ikere people peacefully summoned Benin to mediate in a dispute. You also forget Benin went there with such military force that the geography of areas changed forever. Traditional rulers lost their heads.

You would have liked everyone to believe that Benin never crossed Ore town if not for the overwhelming evidences.

TAO11:
Beheaded??

Oba Ozolua??

Buhahaha!

nisai:
You are really having fun.

TAO11:
Weytin we go do, my brother?

I thought it’s been a while since Bini miscreants with inferiority complex learnt some lessons.

samuk:


After accusing me of inserting my opinions and assumptions. You now left the historical narrative that was mostly qouted verbatim and went on a long epistle of your own opinions and assumptions, something you criticised me of doing.

The historical narratives I am presenting are for those that can make use of their thinking capabilities, not for you. I would have been very surprised if you have jumped this one without commenting.

According to you:

1. Benin was peacefully invited to Lagos, infact Benin begged for a small piece of land, waving white flags whilst begging. But you forget that they went there with a barracks load of soldiers.

2. The Alaafin also peacefully invited Benin to come and put down the rebels that was threatening his domain.

3. The Ikere people peacefully summoned Benin to mediate in a dispute. You also forget Benin went there with such military force that the demography of areas changed forever. Traditional rulers lost their heads.

You would have liked everyone to believe that Benin never crossed Ore town if not for the overwhelming evidences.

Stoplying:
[s]Don't mind the troll, lying and trolling are his/her profession.
Just keep posting claims backed by eyewitness accounts alongside the eyewitness accounts.
Providing proof is the maximum which a human being can do. Ignore the rest.[/s]

samuk:


After accusing me of inserting my opinions and assumptions. You now left the historical narrative that was mostly qouted verbatim and went on a long epistle of your own opinions and assumptions, something you criticised me of doing.

The historical narratives I am presenting are for those that can make use of their thinking capabilities, not for you. I would have been very surprised if you have jumped this one without commenting.

According to you:

1. Benin was peacefully invited to Lagos, infact Benin begged for a small piece of land, waving white flags whilst begging. But you forget that they went there with a barracks load of soldiers.

2. The Alaafin also peacefully invited Benin to come and put down the rebels that was threatening his domain.

3. The Ikere people peacefully summoned Benin to mediate in a dispute. You also forget Benin went there with such military force that the demography of areas changed forever. Traditional rulers lost their heads.

You would have liked everyone to believe that Benin never crossed Ore town if not for the overwhelming evidences.

UGBE634:
[s]They invited her to come and 'mediate' king lose head, Benin matter na gbe gbe o, what if she was invited to actually come and fight.[/s]

[s]Oronmiyan must have encountered Benin True True as a returning prince. IBINU was right on point[/s]

UGBE634:
They invited her to come and 'mediate' king lose head, Benin matter na gbe gbe o, what if she was invited to actually come and fight. Oronmiyan must have encountered Benin True True as a returning prince. IBINU was right on point

Stoplying:


Don't mind the troll, lying and trolling are his/her profession.
Just keep posting claims backed by eyewitness accounts alongside the eyewitness accounts.
Providing proof is the maximum which a human being can do. Ignore the rest.

TAO11:
Samuk right now: — See attached.

Waiting for you at the link below:

https://www.nairaland.com/6482972/name-lagos-called-ekonunuame-benins/7#104345330

Cc: rhektor, nisiw365, nisai, lifeisgood12

TAO11:
Samuk right now: — See attached.

Waiting for you at the link below:

https://www.nairaland.com/6482972/name-lagos-called-ekonunuame-benins/7#104345330

Cc: rhektor, nisiw365, nisai, lifeisgood12

TAO11:
Eeya! What a pity!? I guess your oba got angry that a whole him was summoned by his own vAsSaL. LMAO!

Wait! Did you just say Oba Ozolua’s head was carefully detached from his neck?? How manage?

UGBE634:
[s]It was not summon, use the right words mademoiselle it was like "Baba I am tormented, please come help me fight". It was actually a plea from father to son which Edo accepted the request and Ado was destroyed.
who removed Ozolua's head? Yoruba? common not even in your dreams[/s]

TAO11:
SharRRap, your oba and his kingdom was summoned.

Wait a second! He was summoned to fight, or he was summoned to settle a dispute.

You and your folks should make up your mind now or never. LMAO!

Let’s even pretend it was an invitation to settle dispute, where in the universe do vAsSaL states make the sUzErAin come over to settle a dispute between them and not the other way round?

At this point, I’m genuinely curious to know a little bit more about this omnipotent vAsSaLs. Haha.

Ado was destroyed just as one man sacked your Benin kingdom territories, and even had to appeased by your oba despite the untold destruction brought by this Yoruba man upon Benin kingdom.

Lastly, are you truly & genuinely seeking to know who beheaded your oba ozolua, or are you asking if it was or wasn’t Yoruba?

These are two different questions. Please do make up your mind and be specific. Tainkiu.

In any case, I was actually making a mockery of you for your being ignorant of the fact that your oba was beheaded.

The humiliation of your oba (as well you too for being ignorant) is what I was particular on.

Peace!
Cc: rhektor, nisiw365, nisai, lifeisgood12

UGBE634:
[s]Believe me it is only in your head ma. I know who beheaded Ozolua,not your slowpoke tribe ma[/s]

[s]She fought Ado, she will fight Ado ekiti in Benin ?[/s]

Wait a second! He was summoned to fight, or he was summoned to settle a dispute.

You and your folks should make up your mind now or never. LMAO!

Let’s even pretend it was an invitation to settle dispute, where in the universe do vAsSaL states make the sUzErAin come over to settle a dispute between them and not the other way round?

At this point, I’m genuinely curious to know a little bit more about these omnipotent vAsSaLs. Haha.

[s]I think I am done talking with you now and forever.[/s]

[s]Your intelligence at best is restricted to cramming of books and nothing more[/s]

TAO11:
Eeya! What a pity!? I guess your oba got angry that a whole him was summoned by his own vAsSaL. LMAO!

Wait! Did you just say Oba Ozolua’s head was carefully detached from his neck?? How manage?

Whenever insecure Bini miscreants get humiliated on one subject, it is their modus operandi to quietly (and cunningly) flee to another subject hoping to find consolation — only to further get humiliated again.

Returning prince ko, retired prince ni

ReTuRniNg pRiNce, yet Benin kings had to pray to IFE (and Yorubaland in general) every morning at dawn — and not the other way round.

ReTuRniNg pRiNce, yet Benin kings had Yoruba royal praise titles, viz. Adimula, ÕṣaKeji, etc. — and not the other way round.

Terrible revisionist hoping to feel funky. You better be contented with your crap-hole of a kingdom made up of Benin city and its surrounding Edoid areas.

In any case, your daddies’s false revisionist work has long been exposed to the world by historians. You may refer to the reference and attachment below for one example.

J. Eboreime, “Oral Traditions and the Prehistory of the Edo-Speaking People of Benin” in R. Blench & M. Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations, Taylor & Francis e-Library, 2004, p. 314.

Peace!
Cc: rhektor, nisiw365, nisai, lifeisgood12

Christistruth00:
Welcome TAO

Those who insist on lies will be shamed by it

So Izoduwa is even a 1978 Fabrication!!!


But how can people be so full of Pride to reject their own illustrious History for a Pack of lies

No wonder Oranmiyan called their Land Ile Ibinu

Even Oranmiyan their father self in anger they have changed his name to Omonoyan

In anger the People of Ile Ibinu went further and have changed Oduduwa to Izoduwa

What is Vexing them to destroy their own History ?

UGBE634:
Believe me it is only in your head ma. I know who beheaded Ozolua,not your slowpoke tribe ma. She fought Ado, she will fight Ado ekiti in Benin ? I think I am done talking with you now and forever. Your intelligence at best is restricted to cramming of books and nothing more

TAO11:
SharRRap, your oba and his kingdom was summoned.

Wait a second! He was [b]summoned to fight, or he was summoned to settle a dispute. [/b]

You and your folks should make up your mind now or never. LMAO!

Let’s even pretend it was an invitation to settle a dispute, where in the universe do vAsSaL states make the sUzErAin come over to settle a dispute between them and not the other way round?

At this point, I’m genuinely curious to know a little bit more about these omnipotent vAsSaLs. Haha.

Ado was destroyed just as one man sacked your Benin kingdom territories, and even had to be appeased by your oba despite the untold destruction meted by this Yoruba man upon Benin kingdom.

Lastly, are you truly & genuinely seeking to know who beheaded your oba ozolua, or are you asking if it was or wasn’t Yoruba?

These are two different questions. Please do make up your mind and be specific. Tainkiu.

In any case, I was actually making a mockery of you for your being ignorant of the fact that your oba was beheaded.

The humiliation of your oba (as well you too for being ignorant) is what I was particular on.

Peace!
Cc: rhektor, nisiw365, nisai, lifeisgood12

Christistruth00:


Welcome TAO

Those who insist on lies will be shamed by it

So Izoduwa is even a 1978 Fabrication!!!


But how can people be so full of Pride to reject their own illustrious History for a Pack of lies

No wonder Oranmiyan called their Land Ile Ibinu

Even Oranmiyan their father self in anger they have changed his name to Omonoyan

In anger the People of Ile Ibinu went further and have changed Oduduwa to Izoduwa

What is Vexing them to destroy their own History ?

Nisiw365:

Look at their dead Benin today with 4 local governments and 500k population with nothing working in the city

So they have to keep repeating manipulated stories at least to boost their dead ego and low self esteem

Christistruth00:


Welcome TAO

Those who insist on lies will be shamed by it

So Izoduwa is even a 1978 Fabrication!!!


But how can people be so full of Pride to reject their own illustrious History for a Pack of lies

No wonder Oranmiyan called their Land Ile Ibinu

Even Oranmiyan their father self in anger they have changed his name to Omonoyan

In anger the People of Ile Ibinu went further and have changed Oduduwa to Izoduwa

What is Vexing them to destroy their own History ?

samuk:


I understand your pains. The Oduduwa myth is one very important myths the Yoruba desperately want to believe to be true, but unfortunately, it's what it is, a fabrication born out of myth without historical evidence backing it.

Benin/Ife history was concocted after the fall of Benin empire in 1897.

There were no mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in the eyewitness documented Benin history between 1400s to 1800s. I have severally challenged TAO11 to show such evidence but I suspect I may have to wait until the chicken grows teeth before she can find such evidence.

In summary:

1. There wasn't Benin/Ife relationship in Benin history until 1897, after the fall of Benin empire.

2. Between 1400s to 1890 vast parts of Yoruba land was either directly or indirectly ruled, colonised or influenced by Benin. The other parts such as Ilorin was under the Fulani.

3. The first time the Europeans visited the hinterland of Yoruba was 1824. The Alaafin of Oyo was the leader of Yoruba people, not the Ooni of Ife.

4. Any history of Yoruba before 1824 largely centred around the coastline of Yoruba not the hinterland.

5. The current Benin/Ife connection is purely political history not back up by historical evidence.

6. There are only two great kingdoms in Nigeria, Benin and Fulani's Sokoto caliphate. Benin dominated the Nigeria space for over 500 years. The Fulani took over in the 1800s and still nominating.

7. The Ooni is not even the spiritual leader of most Yoruba people. The Yoruba people being mostly muslims, the Sultan of Sokoto who have to sight the moon before the commencement of Islamic festivities in Nigeria is the spiritual leader of more than half the population of Yoruba people.

8. Yoruba were once under Benin, today they are under the Fulani.

I know how you guys desperately want the Oba of Benin to be Yoruba, but sorry to break your heart, he is not Yoruba and has no Yoruba ancestry.

The Yoruba are not the only ones claiming the Oba of Benin, the Igbo and Igala also have their claims. We only hear more of the Yoruba claims because you guys are more vocal with your claim.

TAO11 opinions and assumptions doesn't amount to history, I am not interested in any of her shenanigans unless she can show me evidence in either Benin or Yoruba history before 1824 that says the Oba of Benin was related to Yoruba.

Yoruba hinterland eyewitness historical accounts may be relatively young haven't only began in 1824 compared to Benin, there are avalanches of Benin eyewitnesses historical accounts spanning over 400 years for TAO11 and any other Yoruba to research and provide evidences of Benin/Ife relationship before 1824.

No matter how long a lie is told, it can never become truth. Unless you guys can provide historical evidence backing your claims, you guys can continue to wallow in your lies.

Christistruth00: