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Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by elated177: 9:33am On Mar 31, 2021 |
herlecks: You have raised more issues. I will tackle them later. Meanwhile, when you say nature, what are you really talking about? Could you be specific so I could get you more clearly? |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by elated177: 1:32pm On Mar 31, 2021 |
herlecks: You mean the same authority that Yahushua the Messiah has restored to us? herlecks: The Father himself, YHVH ALMIGHTY, told Moses and that Aaron what would happen. Jannes and Jambres did only to the extent YHVH ALMIGHTY allowed them to do. herlecks: On the contrary, they didn't even do up to half of what YHVH ALMIGHTY used Moshe and Aaron to do. Again, they did only to the extent YHVH Almighty allowed them to do. herlecks: Again, Jannes and Jambres did only what the Creator of heaven and earth allowed them to do. Satan is neither the equal of YHVH ALMIGHTY nor is he YHVH's adversary. There are things in the exclusive list of the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, YHVH ALMIGHTY. He has not and will not grant Satan the power or authority to do such things. herlecks: What am I going to do with your demonic realm and its negative supernatural? Keep your demonology to yourself and those who are interested in it. The original is the original and counterfeit is counterfeit. However, there are things that cannot be and will never be counterfeited. herlecks: Well, I neither belong to what you call church nor do I go to one. So what you teach and what you want to teach are your business and that of those who follow your line of reasoning. I belong to the Body of the Messiah, just like his other saints, servants and messengers all over the over world. Members of his Body, his Church, his Called-out ones, know that what empowers them is the Power/Spirit of Yahushua the Messiah through Righteousness --- obedience to his Commandments. The knowledge of the demons, their names, their realm, etc, will not be of any benefit to the saints, servants, and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah. We, the saints, servants and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah are to fix our eyes on him, the Author of life. We are to be conscious of our foreheads and the works of our hands --- our deeds. Righteousness is the key. herlecks: Do provide me with the Scriptures to back up your assertions above. herlecks: Again, I am not interested in the demonic realm and whatsoever knowledge in existence there. Satan and the demons know full well that Yahushua the Messiah has restored to his saints, servants and followers the power and authority which Adam lost as a result of his disobedience. The Power/Authority that Yahushua the Messiah has restored to his saints, servants and messengers is forever because he lives in us. The Power/Authority Yahushua the Messiah has given to us, his saints, servants and messengers cannot be stolen, blocked or channelled from us to another. herlecks: I had hoped you would explain what you meant by nature so that could understand you clearly. So, till I understand the context of this nature you are on about, I will hold my comment. herlecks: I don't know where you come from or whether you have eaten Ofe Owerri before. It is said that: "onye na ejighi ego anaghi eri Ofe Owerri." Ofe Owerri has certain ingredients with which the chef prepares it. Now, let's say Mr A is always in the kitchen with the Chef when he prepares Ofe Owerri, if Mr A does not have and will never acquire the necessary ingredients needed for preparing Ofe Owerri, will Mr A ever be able to prepare Ofe Owerri? herlecks: Provide the Scriptures that back you assertions. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by elated177: 1:43pm On Mar 31, 2021 |
herlecks: Some questions: How do the kids play with winds? When you say "play", what do you really mean? Are winds demons? |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 2:36pm On Mar 31, 2021 |
elated177:Demons can be communicated through the wind, witches manipulate and use the wind to channel their demons, and they do this effortlessly. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Tobbit: 5:41pm On Mar 31, 2021 |
The average witch understands astral projection and teleportation well. And can transform to animals and objects and even leave their bodies to roam to their perceived enemies to do them harm 1 Like |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by elated177: 7:12pm On Mar 31, 2021 |
herlecks: Ihe efu! Another satanic agent parading as a servant of light. Heaven and earth will continue to disgrace you people. What you seriously covet, you will never have. Your motive is clear and obvious. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 8:35pm On Mar 31, 2021 |
G Tobbit:Very well. The more demons they obtain through covenants, the more powerful they become. But everything they call power can be diffused in a second by a believer who knows his stand in Christ. Authority! 1 Like |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 8:40pm On Mar 31, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 6:11am On Apr 02, 2021 |
[quote author=Kobojunkie post=100371697][/quote]No. Why? |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 6:14am On Apr 02, 2021 |
herlecks:You both seem to speak the same "language" , the similarities lead me to wonder if you are the same person but different monikers. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 6:20am On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:But we both speak English. Enh? You must be touching something deeper with your spirit. What you are perceiving is the alignment of my spirit with his, not the language actually, you're reading our spirits unconsciously. You are broken and ready to be used by God. Find the way God has destined you to serve Him. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 6:22am On Apr 02, 2021 |
herlecks:reading spirits ke? ROFLMAO No mind me... that had me laughing.. reading spirits of human beings... |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 6:30am On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:I see. Do you ever wonder why you just know things? You are designed to walk in the prophetic, this is why you're operating unconsciously, but let me tell you, you will never touch that realm unless you begin to seek God, pray in tongues, fast and study the word. Your signal is weak, and the gift within you is choked up with worldly affairs. Do you cherish your destiny in God? Start seeking him truthfully, and forsake all these foolish things and foolish friends I see around you. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 6:32am On Apr 02, 2021 |
herlecks:Yeah, i am afraid that doesn't even begin to resemble me in any shape or form. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 6:36am On Apr 02, 2021 |
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Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 6:39am On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Very well. Now that I've opened your eyes to your reality, you will feel an amplification, maybe a little. In months or years we will find out who's right when the hand of God begins to batter you. I'm always available if you need advice. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 6:39am On Apr 02, 2021 |
herlecks:By the way, did you know that everyone who is born again is prophet in the Kingdom of God? Yes, everyone who submits to and obeys the teachings of Jesus Christ becomes a prophet eventually? |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 6:42am On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Not in anyway. Whosoever is born again walks in the gift of prophecy, the prophet walks in the spirit of prophecy. That's the highest dimension of the prophetic, the glory dimension. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 6:45am On Apr 02, 2021 |
herlecks:Actually, that is the Truth of God and there are no dimensions to it since we are all equally Sons of God -all of us prophets - speaking and doing the Will of our Father who directs and leads us all. Yes, every follower who becomes born again indeed is become a prophet of God. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 6:47am On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Believe what you like. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 6:53am On Apr 02, 2021 |
herlecks:it is the Truth of God as taught by Jesus Christ Himself who gave up His body so that He could live through those who accept(trust) and obey His teachings/commandments. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 12:33pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:I can see you always emphasising "obey his commandments." Do you think salvation comes by obeying commandments? |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 1:30pm On Apr 02, 2021 |
herlecks:I don't think it, I know that in order to be saved from the condemnation of sin(Death), not to be confused with sin itself, you had to obey one command that Jesus Christ gave in His New Covenant agreement which stipulates that if you believe in Him, no longer will you be condemned to Death, but be given eternal life(grace) which can grant you admission into either His Heaven or Hell instead. When you chose to believe in Him, you did so in obedience to one of about 50-something commandments contained in Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God. And so, in order fo become born-again, which Jesus Christ decreed is a must for anyone who in fact wants to enter into Heaven, you must also continue to accept (trust) and obey His teachings/commandments for that to happen as well. According to Jesus Christ those who are saved and given eternal life(grace) but refuse to continue obeying His commandments afterwards are those that Hell are prepared for. It is those saved then who continue on accepting and obeying His teachings / commandments.that will be set free from slavery to sin, becoming Children of God as a result that He, Jesus Christ will abide in, and Heaven is for. No one that is not born of His Spirit will enter into Heaven , you see, and the only way that will happen is through obedience. Only those who prove themselves worthy through obedience will God live inside of. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 2:21am On Apr 03, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Have you seen John 3:16? What else was added "believe" that will save us? Obedience to carnal commandments? Nah! You wrote this long epistle because you don't understand what John 3:16 'believe' means. The Hebrew word for believe there is Pisteuo, and it signifies "commitment." A stronger word than "obedience." Committing your spirit, soul and body to God through Christ. Now you can redefine or alter your idea of John 3:16. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 2:42am On Apr 03, 2021 |
herlecks:If john 3 vs 16 was all you needed to know to be saved from Death and gifted with Eternal life, then the Gospel of John should have ended right there in Chapter 3, should it have not? The book goes on to tell you that indeed what you are saved from is not sin but the condemnation of Sin which is Death and what you get from obeying that one command is eternal life(grace) and nothing else- no mention of eternity in Heaven. Why? Because eternal life(grace) can be spent in either of Heaven or Hell. If you then read further to chapter 8 of the same book, Jesus Christ informs you that only those who in fact drink His blood and eat His flesh will have eternal life. So you see, if you stopped at John 3 vs 16, and not john 8, you would not know of this. So now you have that to be saved, you have to believe and eat communion.. if we open to another chapter.... I hope you get the drift. You don't just pick a verse and conclude that it is all that you need. Jesus Christ was not a fool. He knew that there will be those of you who would not pay attention to His teaching, that is why He declated that only those who continue to obey His teaching will become born of His Spirit and it is only those who are born of His Spirit that will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven - the rest, all of them also saved, are bound for Hell where they will spend eternity (grace). Learn the teachings of Jesus Christ, as He commands you to, and obey the one who you claim is your Master. If you commit your mind, body,and soul to God then it follows that you will indeed, as a servant would, obey the one who you call Master. However, if your "commitment" is such that you refuse to obey His very commandments, statutes and rules, then of what value is such a commitment to the one who is your God and Master, when you are not worthy to be called a good and faithful servant? |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 2:52am On Apr 03, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:You can't see far because you're lacking in experience, your experience hardly match your knowledge. You don't know what eternal life (Zoe) is. When you touch experientially victory over sin, flesh, demons, world systems, let us have this conversation. Only then will you understand the power of the cross in deliverance, and you will know it all has nothing to do with running around trying to obey or please God, it has nothing to do with you at all, it's all about God and the things he does IN you, things which grammar can't explain. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by Kobojunkie: 3:03am On Apr 03, 2021 |
herlecks:According to Jesus Christ, the same one who gave you eternal life(grace), the only way to be free of the slavery to sin is by accepting (trusting) and obeying His teachings and commandments - there is no other way because as He said , by knowing the Truth( His teachings) , the Truth(His teachings) will set you free from sin. John 8 So I take it that you claim to have overcome sin in your life. Jesus Christ declared that He is the way...but from your talk you seem not to agree with Jesus Christ on the place of obedience in the life you have in Him, so I ask,which path did you take to overcoming sin than the path Jesus Christ Himself have His followers? You also claim to have victory over demons and world systems, and to that I ask why? If you really believe in Jesus Christ, the one who told you that His Kingdom is not of this world to begin with, why did you need victory over demons as world systems when it should all instead mean nothing to you? By what power did you gain victory you speak of if Jesus Christ said that His power only comes by accepting and obeying His teachings and commandments? |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by herlecks(m): 9:24am On Apr 03, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Fine. |
Re: Witchcraft & Christianity by LordReed(m): 4:49pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
Tobbit: Or "casting out demons" is the work of charlatans and in this day and age they so easily exposed. On another note, you guys have to be some of the saddest people on earth who simultaneously believe in an all powerful god who saves you and an all powerful devil who torments you. How can you go through life with such thoughts in your head and not appear insane? |
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