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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Alhajiemeritus: 6:27pm On Apr 08, 2021 |
Empiree:The case you just explained here seems like an obsession. It's a serious problem o 2 Likes |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by budaatum: 6:37pm On Apr 08, 2021 |
Alhajiemeritus: He should simply have been resisted instead of fueling his derailing! ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 6:50pm On Apr 08, 2021 |
Alhajiemeritus: Only falsehoods is afraid of being exposed, rather than begging the admin to hide my comments, you should be giving a logical counter arguement to refute my submissions if they are not true, but because you know they are true you're jittery. Truth must prevail. Bi iro ba lo fogun odun, ojo kan lotito a ba 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 6:54pm On Apr 08, 2021 |
budaatum:You can't argue with facts naw. I gave them facts, historically verifiable facts, references from the scriptures, your Qur'an and your authentic hadith. If you have a contrary proof let's see them rather than complaining that someone is exposing your lies 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 7:04pm On Apr 08, 2021 |
Empiree:Just quote out where God asked jews/christians to fast in the month of Ramadan. Stop doing pity pity, you're a man. Be strong, i won't beat you na. You're my boy, I like the way I teach you and Antichristian. Eyin Omo mi ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Mohammedoba36: 11:04am On Apr 09, 2021 |
Insha Allah, we are praying that may Almighty Allah allow us to see the beginning of Ramadan and also see the end Amin ya Allah, and may Almighty Allah bring peace to Nigeria and Nigerians Amin ya Allah, Ramadan Mubarak in Advance to All muslims ummah around the world. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Mohammedoba36: 11:08am On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare: Christians in Nigeria are the ones practicing paganism because they are totally different from what christianity teaches around the world, christianity in Nigeria is a terrorist act, they always do meetings on how to eliminate muslims and Islam in Nigeria, but Almighty is always ahead of their evil plans. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Mohammedoba36: 11:14am On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare:is pity that you concocted this fallacy in the name protecting your evil religion of terrorist christianity in Nigeria, we believe that there is no god, but Almighty Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of Almighty Allah, and that ISA (jesus)is not God and he is not a son of God, he remain Messenger of Almighty Allah. 4 Likes |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Mohammedoba36: 11:19am On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare:I can now believe that you are a black pegan with black thought against muslims and Islam in Nigeria, but you are very much late, Nigeria remains Muslim country by status around the world, even if you go to America they will confirm to you that Nigeria belongs to muslims. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Mohammedoba36: 11:23am On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare:false and falsehood always comes from christianity in Nigeria, they have their Nigerian bible that translates their bible according to your thinking. |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by yetunsbay(m): 11:30am On Apr 09, 2021 |
But wetin concern Nairaland Christians about Ramadan |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by khairate(f): 11:56am On Apr 09, 2021 |
But why are kafirs derailing this thread?? Must you lots comment on islam-related threads? This is exactly the attitude you portray in reality, later you'd turn around and play victim. Very vindictive and arrogant humans 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by babayinka77(m): 1:06pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare: Guy! you were never a Muslim, so stop acting as if you were once one. |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by ephbe(m): 2:30pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
You deserve accolades far more than I can give but....May Allah (S.W.T) reward you accordingly Empiree: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 3:24pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare:I purposely chose not to reply you yesterday after I realized your comments made others uncomfortable. And it seems the thread hit the front page today that's why I'm responding. As for your question, if you read btw the lines all along you should have realized you have been duly answered but hatred wont allow you to see. advocatejare:sorry bro. You can't like or love me and hate my religion. If you hate my religion and my prophet, your love for me is bogus. I don't deal with fake love. Fake love is what Christianity preaches. |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 3:47pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
Empiree:Instead of this aroye ati ejo wewe, simply show where Yahweh or Jesus proclaimed Ramadan fasting in the Bible. Kojubelo. Islam and Allah teach you not to be friends with Christians. Islam is what teaches you hate: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people (QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 51) Muhammad used evil to repay good, when the Meccans wanted to kill Muhammad, he ran to Abysinnia to and the Christians accommodated him, he learnt many things from the Christians over there including many scriptural stories he plagiarized. They were friendly to him but at the end, he asked you Muslims to hate us. He hated Christians and promised to chase them out of Arab peninsula. Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it. Sahih muslim 2167a Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab: That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula. Jami at-tirmidhi 1606 Jabir bin ‘Abd Allah said that he was told by ‘Umar bin Al Khattab that he heard the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) say “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from Arabia and I shall leave only Muslims in it.” -Sunan Abi Dawud 3030 The next time they tell you that Islam teaches peace and love, ask them what peace and love mean to them 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 3:53pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
babayinka77:You're right, let me borrow from the word of a brothere here, Xmuslim As his post spoke my mind: https://www.nairaland.com/6145976/never-muslim-update I was never a Muslim for the following reasons "1. I never chose Islam as my religion. I was born, raised and indoctrinated into Islam. I grew up and did my own research about religion and concluded that my parent religion is the correct one. Little did I know that I was bias and was looking at other religions with great skeptism - the principle which I didn't apply to Islam. I leaned about other religions from Qur'an, Hadith and Muslim scholars. So, my research was very skewed. I can't say I was a Muslim per se because I was not in my right senses then and I was not given a choice. If I was given a neutral mind and I researched all religion using same standard and concluded that Islam is the way, then I can claim I was a Muslim." "2. When I was in the religion of my parent,i sincerely thought it was the absolute truth based on the evidences I had. These include a) supposed scientific miracles of the Qur'an b) supposed numerical miracle of the Qur'an c) supposed prophecy of Muhammad d) supposed recurrent miracles such as name of Allah on a snail, tree etc e) supposed miraculous absolute preservation of the Qur'an. F) etc I sincerely thought that non muslims deserves punishment (though I was never happy with eternal torture) because Qur'an told me that they intentionally reject Islam despite knowing with certainty that Islam is the way. I sincerely thought that abrogation principle in the Qur'an make sense because of few examples such as alcohol gradual abrogation. I sincerely thought that the description of Islamic paradise (full of wine, virgins etc) is same with other abrahamic religions. I sincerely thought that every Muslims believed islam because of convincing evidence, and I never doubt that any Muslim will twist obvious flaw if found in Islam. I felt any rational being will abandon anything that lack merit." It was when I was more educated and realised many flaws in the religion that scholars (whom I asked questions about Islam privately) started telling me why.. I should not believe my brain; that not everything in Islam will make sense to human; that we have been given little knowledge and we cannot discredit Islam with our own brain that is deficient. That we should just say we hear and we obey (we should not criticise the religion of Allah) I came to nairaland thinking those scholars were biased. To my surprise most Muslims here started reacting same way. They started saying they will believe anything in the Qur'an and hadith whether it make sense or not. They started saying it is Allah that guided them to Islam not their brain etc. This make me realise that I was different from the beginning, but I didn't know because I have not found any flaw in the religion. I thought we were together and that no Muslim would accept Islam if it go against common sense or established scientific fact. Thus, if dogmatically following Qur'an and hadith is the definition of a Muslim, then I think I was never a Muslim. " Thanks for your time 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 3:54pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare:go and read your book of Jeremiah [s]Islam and Allah teach you not to be friends with Christians.what's all these gotta do with this topic? 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 3:54pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 3:58pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
Empiree:I've read it and there's no where Yahweh proclaimed fasting there. If there's any, show us. By the way, when did you start believing in Jeremiah, don't you claim that it's only Torah, Sabura, Injeel that you believe in ![]() To show you that Islam, Allah, Muhammad preached hatred against Christians and Jews 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 3:59pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
Mohammedoba36:If it's fallacy, then counter it with irrefutable facts and stop crying. You're a man, provide facts not emotions 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 4:13pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare:is Jeremiah not in your Bible? To show you that Islam, Allah, Muhammad preached hatred against Christians and Jewswhy did you leave this out? "Allah does not forbid you to be kind and equitable to those who had neither fought against your faith nor driven you out of your homes. In fact Allah loves the equitable." Q60:8 "Not all of them (Jews and christians) are alike: there are some among the People of the Book (Jews and christians) who are upright, who recite Allah’s revelations throughout the night, prostrating ˹in prayer˺. Q3:113 |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 4:55pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
Empiree: Jeremiah is in the Bible. But you're yet to show me where God made the proclamation that Jews should fast in the month of Ramadan. Now back to my question, do you believe in the Book of Jeremiah like you claim to believe in Torah, Sabura and Injeela? Did Christians fight against Muhammad? Christians saved his life and the lives of his family during the first Hijra to Abyssinia, your historians hid that Hijra and only emphasize the second Hijra, as usual cos they don't want to report the love Christians showed to Muhammad and how Muhammad learnt many things from the Christians. Despite that, he preached hatred against Christians No wonder he commanded u to be wishing him peace after he died, because he knows that there's no peace for the wicked He hated Christians and promised to chase them out of Arab peninsula. Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it. Sahih muslim 2167a Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab: That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula. Jami at-tirmidhi 1606 Jabir bin ‘Abd Allah said that he was told by ‘Umar bin Al Khattab that he heard the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) say “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from Arabia and I shall leave only Muslims in it.” -Sunan Abi Dawud 3030 The next time they tell you that Islam teaches peace and love, ask them what peace and love mean to them 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 5:02pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare:let QUR'AN answer you. "Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." Q2:136 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 5:07pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
Empiree: you're yet to show me where God made the proclamation that Jews should fast in the month of Ramadan. 1 Like |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by budaatum: 5:09pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare: Did you not learn from Jesus Christ about the wages of hubris? www.nairaland.com/attachments/10991094_notable01448_jpeg5178a1c3af1a3078369ed9fc265b1d0e advocatejare: Did you not learn from Jesus Christ about the forest in your own eye? www.nairaland.com/attachments/11843020_20200701190851272_jpeg_jpegd37fa2921e81fd9029803de69a5151c0 I put it to you all here that if this individual can not learn from our Lord and Messiah Jesus Christ he can not learn from Islam and should therefore not be entertained. |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 5:11pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
budaatum:Ok 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by budaatum: 5:23pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare: The Peace of the Lord is with you. |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 5:27pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
budaatum:And unto you too 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 5:34pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
advocatejare:Guy, don't you get it?. The name of the month is Ramadan and it is the 9th month in the islamic calendar; just like September is the 9th month in Gregorian calendar. In Islam we called it Ramadan. In Gregorian calendar we called it September. Same goes to every calendar in the world. Those days in the time of Moses, Jesus, Jeremiah etc they had their names of calendar. But the most important point we want to derive in this conversation is the ninth 9th month. So Ramadan is name of the month and fasting was proclaimed therein in Islam. Similarly, 9th month of the year in the Bible, fasting was proclaimed as proven in the Book of Jeremiah 36:9. "In the ninth month of the fifth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, a time of fasting before the LORD was proclaimed for all the people in Jerusalem and those who had come from the towns of Judah." Is this verse not clear to you?. Who are the people mentioned in this verse, were Jews not included?. You can see in this verse entire towns and tribes were obligated to fast. It is you Christians that strayed from Right Path. You are not "Omo leyin Jesu". You are Omo leyin Paulu. Paul changed every doctrine of Jesus and replaced with him own. "Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity". Hebrew 6:1 |
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by budaatum: 5:59pm On Apr 09, 2021 |
Empiree: Know that your ministration is like the Angel Gabriel saying, "buda, go read the Epistle to the Hebrews again". I say this so you do not ever shirk nor add to the errand the Lord God sends through you. |
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