We must be careful not to become a child og hate!

Those concerned about whether or not religious centres are being built and not centres for memtal development. Well, the church is the greatest centre of mental and spiritual development. But let's say other centres are needed: what about Covenant University, a school that produced the Architect himself and many other outstanding graduates today; Landmark University is doing outstanding work in Agriculture; the Faith Academy group of schools and Kingdom Heritage are they not development centres?

Some will come and say, they should build imdustries that will employ people. Are the schools, housing, power projects even the ongoing project not major employers of labour? All Living faith churches have at least 1 full time pastor. During the lockdown, more than 10k churches were planted, mainly in the villages (this doesn't look like the best places to gather money to me). People will pastor these churches. How many banks have 10k staff?

Some will then come and say merit is jettisoned for nepotism. A more qualified architect should have been selected.. will such people choose a stranger to inherit their properties rather that their children?

Another said, how much was he paid? What is that to you? Somebody has been working on carious projects, a well qualified adult. If he wasn't satisfied with his pay, i believe he would have left.

I may not be a fan of building church edifices as against feeding the hungry and making life better for the poor, especially in the church, but I make exemption with Winners, because NO MAN TRULY FOLLOWS the teaching of the Word of Faith as preached by Bishop Oyedepo CAN be or remain poor! I know the above for a fact! If you doubt me, start attending or listening to his teachings, get saved, follow the teachings for 6 months and come back here to challenge this submission if you remain the same.

Summary, when you are actually against God and all He stands for, it is hypocracy to come out as being fair or merciful.

How many Christians can differentiate between a church and it’s building? Everything is Business and we know it. You guys can choose to sugar coat from now till forever but deep down you all know the truth. Religion has eaten deep in to Africa. We are the most religious and the most backward. Even European countries don’t invest so much in churches this way the real owners of the religion but Africans will swear they know the religion better the owners. We don’t need more churches in Africa. We need more JOBS! SCHOOLS!

emmyN:


The church is the house of God, the building is not. The building is necessary for the gathering of the church to fellowship in one body, just as the government house is used for administering government activities.

Now I don't know what point your comment, "they will make their money back in less than a year" makes in this argument.

Venlony:

Local government? Or some states combined .

no too look down on states o...FAQ monthly payment to states is over billions of naira

Church and Mosques everywhere, yet it seems we keep going backwards in everything as a nation including morality which is almost nothing to write home about.. Nigerians are just religious people, godliness is very far from us, if not it would most definitely reflect in the form of great collective progress and development as a nation. Anyways, kudos to the young fella for his great works

OkCornel:


If you actually think I’m lying about where I currently reside, all you have to do is ask for proof! And I will clear your miserable doubts.
But nope, religious zealots and pastor worshipers don’t think critically at all! Nope, they don’t.



Of course, I’m a terrorist with God’s truth to those who love preaching lies and false doctrines.

Open the Bible and dispute the scriptures I posted on this thread, as it’s only insults and pastor worship you’re obviously good at. Awon religious zealots.

And don’t get me started on the tithing and offering and seed sowing lies which you and your fellow brainwashed slaves believe in but has never lifted you and your families out of perpetual poverty

Look at your life and have small sense nau...

Foolish response as usual......mind you I can buy u and ur useless family
That europe u r making noise about was where I schooled.....idiot....I know u r under ur miserable father licking roof

computer0810:

Foolish response as usual......mind you I can buy u and ur useless family
That europe u r making noise about was where I schooled.....idiot....I know u r under ur miserable father licking roof

As expected from a pastor worshiping religious zealot. All you have to do is tell me to prove where I stay, but guess what...you’re pained and bitter


In all our exchanges here, you never quoted one Bible verse to prove me wrong. The best you can ever do is insult

Now run off to lick your pastor shoes and pay more tithes and offerings while you wallow in poverty He even claims he can buy me and my family. Lmao, you poor hungry soul trying to make ends meet for yourself.


Still awaiting your counter argument with scriptural reference where God asked people to build temples and churches for Him

Denko2721987:
Church and Mosques everywhere, yet it seems we keep going backwards in everything as a nation including morality which is almost nothing to write home about.. Nigerians are just religious people, godliness is very far from us, if not it would most definitely reflect in the form of great collective progress and development as a nation. Anyways, kudos to the young fella for his great works

Thank you jare. One of the religious zealot is here busy arguing with absolutely no scriptural backup to support what his pastors are doing (building big structures in the name of temple/church).


It’s hard to liberate brainwashed and mentally enslaved people.

chaloskyx:
PLEASE HELP US BUILD A FACTORY OR A GAS POWERED PLANT THAT WOULD HELP US ALL AS NIGERIANS THERS NO NEED SPENDING SO MUCH ON SCHOOLD THAT WHEN THE STUDENTS GADUATE THERE WOULD BE NO JOBS NO POINT BUILDING MEGA CHURCHES WHEN WE ALL KNOW MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE GOING THERE WOULD DIE POOR AND WOULD ONLY CLING TO HOPE TO SURVIVE

Oga sharrap and go and meet d politicians u elected and pay ur taxes to.
Since u don't go these leave those going there alone. Dying poor or not, dats none of ur business

HigherEd:
Other Projects He Designed For The Church As An Employee Of Covenant University


Covenant university stadium - N1 Billion

Covenant university senate building - N500M

Kingdom Heritage Model School - N5.2 Billion

Faith Theatre (now canceled) - N100 Billion

The Ark - N160 Billion

Living Faith President Lodge - Redacted

Church Hangar MMIA - Redacted

Canaan City (Phase 1, 500 units) - N10 Billion

6MW Power plant - N1.9 Billion

Covenant 120 bed Post graduate residence - N1.2 Billion

Covenant University Center For Research - N2 Bill

Covenant University Bookstore - N300 Million

Covenant 201 Staff Quarters - N2 Billion

Arobieye Rd. Link Canaanland - N2 Billion

Canaan mall - N2 Billion

Many of the projects he led only a year after he started his PhD.

Make una no lie come give the guy credit that does not belong to him. Its falsehood and misinformation to ascribe other church projects to him aside the very one he is known to have been involved in

EgusiShankly:
maybe because he doesn't compromise standards..

that's not really it, he's just the type that's just want to have the final say

Amotolongbo:
really?
How?

That guy only believe in his own view o

OkCornel:


If you actually think I’m lying about where I currently reside, all you have to do is ask for proof! And I will clear your miserable doubts.
But nope, religious zealots and pastor worshipers don’t think critically at all! Nope, they don’t.



Of course, I’m a terrorist with God’s truth to those who love preaching lies and false doctrines.

Open the Bible and dispute the scriptures I posted on this thread, as it’s only insults and pastor worship you’re obviously good at. Awon religious zealots.

And don’t get me started on the tithing and offering and seed sowing lies which you and your fellow brainwashed slaves believe in but has never lifted you and your families out of perpetual poverty

Look at your life and have small sense nau...

Foolish response as usual......mind you I can buy u and ur useless family
That europe u r making noise about was where I schooled.....idiot....I know u r under ur miserable father licking roof
You are calling those paying tithes slave .....the rate u fools now use the word slave dis days ehn, I know u r a Muslim and if u take a deeper look btw Christian and muslims u will know who are the miserable poor slaves

computer0810:

Foolish response as usual......mind you I can buy u and ur useless family
That europe u r making noise about was where I schooled.....idiot....I know u r under ur miserable father licking roof
You are calling those paying tithes slave .....the rate u fools now use the word slave dis days ehn, I know u r a Muslim and if u take a deeper look btw Christian and muslims u will know who are the miserable poor slaves

Lol, someone who just went for his NYSC (batch A 2019) is here spewing insults? I didn’t even know I was dragging words with someone still surviving on pocket money and mummy’s food

Dude, go and find your level jare

I’m still waiting for one scriptural reference from you showing us where God and Jesus asked Christians/Believers to build big structures in His name.

And like I said earlier, if you’re very sure I’m not in Europe, ask for proof (a video call for example) and I’ll clear your doubts if e sure you.

OkCornel:


Thank you jare. One of the religious zealot is here busy arguing with absolutely no scriptural backup to support what his pastors are doing (building big structures in the name of temple/church).


It’s hard to liberate brainwashed and mentally enslaved people.

......u r a foolish clown I swear, i know u hate that churches are doing things ur terrorists religion cannot do
The question is how is whatever the churches do ur business when it's not ur money, churches build road even for government, go and ask d beggars on the streets everywhere and ask d religion dey practice
Don't ever mention the bible in ur stupidity again.....as in u actually wanted it to be written in the bible that oyedepo should build such a worship centre
Wonders shall never end.......u will cry forever coz the church will still be in control of the economy

computer0810:

......u r a foolish clown I swear, i know u hate that churches are doing things ur terrorists religion cannot do
The question is how is whatever the churches do ur business when it's not ur money, churches build road even for government, go and ask d beggars on the streets everywhere and ask d religion dey practice
Don't ever mention the bible in ur stupidity again.....as in u actually wanted it to be written in the bible that oyedepo should build such a worship centre
Wonders shall never end.......u will cry forever coz the church will still be in control of the economy

Please tell us how they’re obeying God by building big structures nau?

Also tell us how this has lifted you from poverty you this job seeker

You just finished your NYSC in 2020 and you suddenly have money to buy me and my family? Mehn...lying clowns full for this nairaland.

Shebi you claimed you’re very sure I’m not in Europe nau? I want to clear your doubts with a video call...abi you no sure of yourself again ni?

All these lying religious zealots. Another one just got busted today.

What a pity, a boastful liar who claims to be a Christian stated here on this thread that he can buy me and my family. This same dude just finished NYSC last year sef, and is surviving on pocket money

OkCornel:


Lol, someone who just went for his NYSC (batch A 2019) is here spewing insults? I didn’t even know I was dragging words with someone still surviving on pocket money and mummy’s food

Dude, go and find your level jare

I’m still waiting for one scriptural reference from you showing us where God and Jesus asked Christians/Believers to build big structures in His name.

And like I said earlier, if you’re very sure I’m not in Europe, ask for proof (a video call for example) and I’ll clear your doubts if e sure you.

that was for fornication purpose nigger......I served in shendam LG plateau state in 2014, so stop being foolish and as for still asking why churches are building structures with scriptural linkage is very funny, u want Christians to be uncivilized like the barbarians muslims blocking the road to hold there prayer, I know is in the Quran that u muslims are born terrorists and should cause chaos in the world

OkCornel:



Please tell us how they’re obeying God by building big structures nau?

Also tell us how this has lifted you from poverty you this job seeker

You just finished your NYSC in 2020 and you suddenly have money to buy me and my family? Mehn...lying clowns full for this nairaland.

Shebi you claimed you’re very sure I’m not in Europe nau? I want to clear your doubts with a video call...abi you no sure of yourself again ni?

Pls how do we make the video call pls am interested

computer0810:

that was for fornication purpose nigger......I served in shendam LG plateau state in 2014, so stop being foolish and as for still asking why churches are building structures with scriptural linkage is very funny, u want Christians to be uncivilized like the barbarians muslims blocking the road to hold there prayer, I know is in the Quran that u muslims are born terrorists and should cause chaos in the world

Yeah right... for fornication purposes.

Oh wait, a shameless fornicator is here trying to defend a fraudulent version of Christianity?

That says a lot already Let me guess, you’ve also been brainwashed to believe Jesus died for you and you’re free to fornicate now abi?

computer0810:

that was for fornication purpose nigger......I served in shendam LG plateau state in 2014, so stop being foolish and as for still asking why churches are building structures with scriptural linkage is very funny, u want Christians to be uncivilized like the barbarians muslims blocking the road to hold there prayer, I know is in the Quran that u muslims are born terrorists and should cause chaos in the world

The early Christians were uncivilised barbarians abi? Did you not read somewhere between Acts 2-4 where believers met at each other’s home to break bread and commune? Did you see anywhere the early church built mansions and palaces to worship God on the Sabbath?

computer0810:

Pls how do we make the video call pls am interested

Do you still own this number in the screenshot below? Just asking to confirm before I go ahead with the video call.

Besides if you paid attention to the earlier screenshots, I use a Vodafone UK line.

OkCornel:


The early Christians were uncivilised barbarians abi? Did you not read somewhere between Acts 2-4 where believers met at each other’s home to break bread and commune? Did you see anywhere the early church built mansions and palaces to worship God on the Sabbath?

Firstly u have my number already so video call me

Secondly how is the structure churches are building affecting u, is it ur money, the roads churches construct for government are being use by muslims too

Let me believe that Jesus died for my sin perhaps that's why Christians are peaceful

Your useless terrorists islam made u terrorists believe when u kill an unbeliever u will be giving a virgin in heaven, my brother what can be more stupid than being a Muslim

computer0810:


Firstly u have my number already so video call me

Secondly how is the structure churches are building affecting u, is it ur money, the roads churches construct for government are being use by muslims too

Let me believe that Jesus died for my sin perhaps that's why Christians are peaceful

Your useless terrorists islam made u terrorists believe when u kill an unbeliever u will be giving a virgin in heaven, my brother what can be more stupid than being a Muslim

This says a lot about your level of intelligence. Why did you hastily assume I’m a Muslim? Because I came after your Pastors who are doing things which you can’t find scriptural support for?


Anyways, I’ll call you shortly, and after that... you will retract all the nonsense you typed here about me being under my parents roof somewhere in Nigeria.

You’ll hear from me shortly.

Jesus died for you so you can fornicate peacefully? Buhahahaha.

Luke 6 v 46: Why call me Lord, Lord, but DO NOT DO THE THINGS I SAY.

OkCornel:


The early Christians were uncivilised barbarians abi? Did you not read somewhere between Acts 2-4 where believers met at each other’s home to break bread and commune? Did you see anywhere the early church built mansions and palaces to worship God on the Sabbath?

U can as well say bcoz the early Christians use leg in those days to travel while those who are rich among them uses camel b4 technology and civilisation we should be using leg now instead of entering bus, not use phones but instead send letters through birds or not use plane to travel or even modern ships but rather wooden ship
U r so dumb in ur hatred for Christians development.....u claimed to be in Europe why not go to Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia or iraq

xpressionx:
The problem of Nigeria is nigeria and not Nigerians.

This is one of the proofs

So the Nigerian land is the problem and not the people on it.

OkCornel:


This says a lot about your level of intelligence. Why did you hastily assume I’m a Muslim? Because I came after your Pastors who are doing things which you can’t find scriptural support for?


Anyways, I’ll call you shortly, and after that... you will retract all the nonsense you typed here about me being under my parents roof somewhere in Nigeria.

You’ll hear from me shortly.

Jesus died for you so you can fornicate peacefully? Buhahahaha.

Luke 6 v 46: Why call me Lord, Lord, but DO NOT DO THE THINGS I SAY.

Why do u muslims like war and confusion
Hw I fornicate, live my life or my believe, hw does it concern u
Why do u ppl always have to interfere in how others live there life when u ppl kill at will

computer0810:

U can as well say bcoz the early Christians use leg in those days to travel while those who are rich among them uses camel b4 technology and civilisation we should be using leg now instead of entering bus, not use phones but instead send letters through birds or not use plane to travel or even modern ships but rather wooden ship
U r so dumb in ur hatred for Christians development.....u claimed to be in Europe why not go to Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia or iraq

You still can’t comprehend mehn. The church isn’t a building. The believers are the church. They met in each other’s homes and the Temple court to break bread and encourage one another.

Do some research on church history mehn. All these building of big mansions and edifices to worship God started with the Roman Catholic Church! Not the early church.

Those guys messed up a lot of things. Mixing pagan celebrations with Holy feasts.

Wtf does Easter (Ishtar - fertility goddess represented by rabbits and eggs) gotta to do with Passover?


Wtf does December 25th (bloody winter) gotta do with the birth of Jesus?

Mehn, make una research church history ooo, God’s truth has been swapped with traditions of men and y’all blindly following.

Please feel free. I’m happy for you to go ahead. And I’ll also take actions as I have your number which is tied to your BvN and fingerprints as well.

I absolutely have nothing to be scared of.

You must prove to everyone here and the British authorities I’m a terrorist, and if you can’t...I’ll sue you for every last penny you’re worth! Go ahead!


Someone will just sit somewhere and accuse me blindly of being a Muslim and a terrorist.

You must prove it! Nobody should beg Computer0810 You must finish what you started here.

Modified: I and Computer0810 are good now. Settled our differences as true believers ought to do. Forget whatever transpired on this thread or wherever on nairaland. He might appear to be rude, but he’s not. He’s an intelligent guy you can have a fruitful conversation with.

One lesson rings true for me today. “Never judge people’s character just based on what they post on Nairaland”

I thank God I’m in a system where things are done transparently.

My reputation and all my posts on nairaland and by extension social media does not show support whatsoever for terrorism, racism or tribalism.

I have absolutely nothing to be afraid of. So Computer0810, go ahead with your blackmail. I’m also taking appropriate steps to ensure I get justice for being wrongly labelled a Muslim and a terrorist.

All the chats are here. Please go ahead.

Modified: Irrelevant now, kindly refer all subsequent chats with Computer0810 to the previous post I’ve modified.

computer0810:

Why do u muslims like war and confusion
Hw I fornicate, live my life or my believe, hw does it concern u
Why do u ppl always have to interfere in how others live there life when u ppl kill at will

Again, he hastily assumes I’m a Muslim...same way you assumed I was under my parents roof somewhere in Nigeria.

Now that I’ve cleared your doubts on that matter, let me make something very clear here. I AM NOT A MUSLIM. I WAS NEVER A MUSLIM.

No disrespect to that religion even though there are extremists there too making a bad name of that religion. Just the same way we have liars in the church making a bad image of Christianity.

gaventa:
How many Christians can differentiate between a church and it’s building? Everything is Business and we know it. You guys can choose to sugar coat from now till forever but deep down you all know the truth. Religion has eaten deep in to Africa. We are the most religious and the most backward. Even European countries don’t invest so much in churches this way the real owners of the religion but Africans will swear they know the religion better the owners. We don’t need more churches in Africa. We need more JOBS! SCHOOLS!

If there was no living faith church, would there be a school? Would there be a young man gainfully employed like the Architect in the OP? Look dude, you are stressing me. You shouldn't legislate over what you have no knowledge on. I'm not holding brief for those that practice the Christian religion though, but I acknowledge their contributions.