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To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by MrMaestro: 3:49pm On Apr 20, 2021
Serious question, when considering Nigeria people like to downplay the diversity of culture Africa has, especially West Africa. And they don't do that when it comes to the west. If someone forced the UK, Germany, and France in one country, do you think there would be peace in that country? Please give your thoughts.

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Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by winning101: 3:56pm On Apr 20, 2021
Can one Hausa solider, an uneducated secondary school dropout solider, just go to Europe and order Russia, UK and Germany to become one country, name them White Trash Area and order that the yoonity of Whitetrasharea is non-negotiable?

That's exactly what Fraud Luggard the illiterate British soldier did when he came to Africa and forced Igbo nation to become part of Nigeria with Fulani Herdsmen terrorists, Yoruba people and 300+ other tribes/nations.

And yet we have idiots like Osunbande and Lying Mohammed defending them. The yoonity. That yoonity will kill you there grin

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Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by budaatum: 4:03pm On Apr 20, 2021
That someone would need to be uber powerful to be able to "force UK, Germany, and France in one country", or UK, Germany, and France would need to become very weak.

Still, wrong analogy. You seem to not be aware of the many nations that eventually got forced into becoming UK, Germany, and France.

Below is a map of the different countries in 6th Century what became Britain. Each is like Igboland, Yorubaland, Beninland, etc with their own king before it got forced into Britain by a uber powerful king.

Ref: Nation State

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Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by Monogamy: 4:04pm On Apr 20, 2021
Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by MrMaestro: 5:46pm On Apr 20, 2021
budaatum:
That someone would need to be uber powerful to be able to "force UK, Germany, and France in one country", or UK, Germany, and France would need to become very weak.

Still, wrong analogy. You seem to not be aware of the many nations that eventually got forced into becoming UK, Germany, and France.

Below is a map of the different countries in 6th Century what became Britain. Each is like Igboland, Yorubaland, Beninland, etc with their own king before it got forced into Britain by a uber powerful king.

Ref: Nation State

And you can clearly see the Irish and Scottish are seriously thinking of leaving the country. But using the UK is a bad analogy. They all speak the same language and have more similar cultures. That's more Akin to the Igboid and Yoruba ethnic groups rather than the example I'm making. Germany, France, and UK have separate languages and cultures. That's more in line with my thought experiment. If they were one country, would it be successful?

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Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by hollah123: 6:53pm On Apr 20, 2021
MrMaestro:
Serious question, when considering Nigeria people like to downplay the diversity of culture Africa has, especially West Africa. And they don't do that when it comes to the west. If someone forced the UK, Germany, and France in one country, do you think there would be peace in that country? Please give your thoughts.
direct your question to Nnamdi Azikiwe
Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by hollah123: 6:55pm On Apr 20, 2021
winning101:
Can one Hausa solider, an uneducated secondary school dropout solider, just go to Europe and order Russia, UK and Germany to become one country, name them White Trash Area and order that the yoonity of Whitetrasharea is non-negotiable?

That's exactly what Fraud Luggard the illiterate British soldier did when he came to Africa and forced Igbo nation to become part of Nigeria with Fulani Herdsmen terrorists, Yoruba people and 300+ other tribes/nations.u blame everyone except yourself as if Nigeria doesn't have a history,have u read about d roles Nnamdi Azikiwe played in d seccesion game?

And yet we have idiots like Osunbande and Lying Mohammed defending them. The yoonity. That yoonity will kill you there grin
Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by budaatum: 10:05pm On Apr 20, 2021
MrMaestro:
And you can clearly see the Irish and Scottish are seriously thinking of leaving the country. But using the UK is a bad analogy. They all speak the same language and have more similar cultures. That's more Akin to the Igboid and Yoruba ethnic groups rather than the example I'm making. Germany, France, and UK have separate languages and cultures. That's more in line with my thought experiment. If they were one country, would it be successful?

But they didn't! Scottish was and still is not Welsh is not English at all. Even Birmingham was not Liverpool until a book unified them. You'd find Germany and France people spoke many diverse languages too.

I think you are looking at the finished product without knowing how it got there. Those countries you mention were just like Nigeria when they were in their infancy.
Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by budaatum: 10:15pm On Apr 20, 2021
MrMaestro:
And you can clearly see the Irish and Scottish are seriously thinking of leaving the country. But using the UK is a bad analogy. They all speak the same language and have more similar cultures. That's more Akin to the Igboid and Yoruba ethnic groups rather than the example I'm making. Germany, France, and UK have separate languages and cultures. That's more in line with my thought experiment. If they were one country, would it be successful?

Close is the European Union. "Germany, France" etc are kinda like Nigerian states.

Jury is still out on successful.
Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by MrMaestro: 10:20pm On Apr 20, 2021
budaatum:


Close is the European Union. "Germany, France" etc are kinda like Nigerian states.

Jury is still out on successful.
no that's false. The EU is essentially a trade area. Laws and the Judicial system largely belongs to each country, not the EU. If they were in one country and the British had to bow to a French president or vice versa, they might declare war on each other.

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Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by VictorUSA(m): 10:31pm On Apr 20, 2021
winning101:
Can one Hausa solider, an uneducated secondary school dropout solider, just go to Europe and order Russia, UK and Germany to become one country, name them White Trash Area and order that the yoonity of Whitetrasharea is non-negotiable?

That's exactly what Fraud Luggard the illiterate British soldier did when he came to Africa and forced Igbo nation to become part of Nigeria with Fulani Herdsmen terrorists, Yoruba people and 300+ other tribes/nations.

And yet we have idiots like Osunbande and Lying Mohammed defending them. The yoonity. That yoonity will kill you there grin
Dnt blame lugard 4 ur problem. Do u think he foresaw what`s happening now? It`s just that an average nigerian (including igbos clamouring for biafla) lacks good reasoning faculty.
Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by winning101: 11:15pm On Apr 20, 2021
VictorUSA:
Dnt blame lugard 4 ur problem. Do u think he foresaw what`s happening now? It`s just that an average nigerian (including igbos clamouring for biafla) lacks good reasoning faculty.
Lacks reasoning?

Most people in "Nigeria" then weren't even aware of who Fraud Luggard was or that he's lumping them together with strangers or what a "country" means. People only know about their traditional rulers and sadly, Luggard didn't even consult these traditional rulers when he was about to commit the abomination of creating a Nigeria.

There were no TV, radios and Internet access then. The only newspapers available then was only in cities like Lagos or Onitsha and I read on Luggard's biography that many columnists critised him for the move when it was announced but he didn't think highly of Africans. He says Yoruba people are partying dunces while Igbos are only interested in their farm while Hausa people couldn't give more care over whatever bullshit that was going on.

In the end, he disregarded the few people who even knew what he was doing let alone critisizing him and went on to create Nigeria.

The first thing Nigerians should have done when they finally got educated was dividing the fake foreign country. However the black man seems naturally greedy. Once they reach the seat of power the first thing they do is to loot money as much as they can until their tenure is over. When their tenure is over they retire and become useless "elder statemen" dishing out useless unsolicited advice that they couldn't give themselves when they were in government.

The best time to divide Nigeria was 100 years ago. The second best time is now.
Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by MrMaestro: 1:48pm On Apr 21, 2021
winning101:

Lacks reasoning?

Most people in "Nigeria" then weren't even aware of who Fraud Luggard was or that he's lumping them together with strangers or what a "country" means. People only know about their traditional rulers and sadly, Luggard didn't even consult these traditional rulers when he was about to commit the abomination of creating a Nigeria.

There were no TV, radios and Internet access then. The only newspapers available then was only in cities like Lagos or Onitsha and I read on Luggard's biography that many columnists critised him for the move when it was announced but he didn't think highly of Africans. He says Yoruba people are partying dunces while Igbos are only interested in their farm while Hausa people couldn't give more care over whatever bullshit that was going on.

In the end, he disregarded the few people who even knew what he was doing let alone critisizing him and went on to create Nigeria.

The first thing Nigerians should have done when they finally got educated was dividing the fake foreign country. However the black man seems naturally greedy. Once they reach the seat of power the first thing they do is to loot money as much as they can until their tenure is over. When their tenure is over they retire and become useless "elder statemen" dishing out useless unsolicited advice that they couldn't give themselves when they were in government.

The best time to divide Nigeria was 100 years ago. The second best time is now.

Agreed 100%
Re: To One Nigerianists: Can France, UK, And Germany Be One Country And Thrive? by slimfit1(m): 1:55pm On Apr 21, 2021
What are you talking about, the UK alone Is struggling to keep its self as one?

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