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Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by Vlyrics: 7:04pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
sevo: It is a fact, every fans want Haaland in their team right now but where will team get 100m + from. Then there is agent fees plus salary. Go and check list of clubs in debt, Totheham also took a loan of 175m, Google it. Barca new president is planning to borrow another 300m to invest in the team. While Uefa is eating and getting fat without making any significant impact in these clubs. Common salary cap and transfer value cap, it cannot make. If you can't pay more then help to spend less, this is common economics. 2 Likes |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by 141samuel: 7:16pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics:who send them to keep Messi at club expense, bayern Munich will never go beyond their salary structure because they want to keep a player or buy player, is bayern not doing well as a big club, during the rainy season they keep over pricing average player, imagine Sanchez collecting $500 every week when he was at man united 8 Likes |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by kastgeraldino: 7:20pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Who send them message? If you cannot afford Messi, offload him and get someone else Vlyrics: 2 Likes |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by Glycosunde: 7:22pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics: I get this ur 2nd analysis and FIFA and UEFA will need to look into it. It is very outrageous the money used to buy players these days. But u see dat ur first talk, e nor join. How can u say u r an elite club and u can't make champions and Europa leagues yearly? Wetin come make u superior? The so called big teams should put their teams in others and dominant. FIFA and UEFA to pay more money to them too. I know they will review it but for a supposed elite team not to make a champions or a Europa leagues spot in on them. We had elite teams in the past like Aston Villa, Forest and d likes. Why will a Tottenham and Arsenal be founding members when they can't even remember the last time they went for a champions league competition Sighs.......... Drops pen 1 Like |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by 141samuel: 7:24pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics:is not by force to get Haaland at all cost, if you can't get Haaland look elsewhere for good players. 1 Like |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by charlesucheh(m): 7:25pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
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Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by 141samuel: 7:27pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Glycosunde:they are elite club because of their fans base |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by blasterman(m): 7:36pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics: Thats is the game of football and the business. Competition and qualification by merit, its like Lesotho crying to qualify for afcon when they came last in qualifying Leeds, Newcastle Blackburn used to be reigning in premiership, they bought wrongly and couldnt win the titles. Nobody is guaranteed top 4, when i started watching soccer Man city was as useless as Sheffield united. infact they got relegated now they are on top. According to Arsene wenger the money coming into football from tv is sufficient, Real Madrid and Barca paying the highest amount in salary- or have the highest wage bill for any club in the world. how can they then not run into debt. the higest paid coach is in la liga. TV money is not following into Laliga like premiership because of low competition. Messi wanted to leave Barca , MAn city and PSG were ready to buy but they refused selling now they are crying. Madrid is paying Gareth Bale 600000K $ per week and he was on the bench for 2 seasons. Thats y ppl praise Alex Feguson and say he is the greatest coach because he was able to raise academy players and turn them into world beaters. Thats what Ajax did when they won champions league. Real Mdarid and Juventus they like finished product or top quality but it cost money 4 Likes |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by OnlyDeCapPlease(m): 7:38pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
bluefilm: But you can never get drunk on football. E nor dey catch |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by yetmao: 7:59pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics: MUST THEY PAY BIG SALARIES TO PLAYERS. 1 Like |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by Mryacks: 8:13pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics: You have sense.... 1 Like |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by otipoju(m): 8:17pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics: Then they should deal with the root of the problem...greedy agents, greedy players and clubs who will pay any amount to buy the greedy players. The highest paying jobs are usually 150,000 dollars to 200,000 per annum....yet top tier football players recieve averagely 75,000 per week. Even the blind knows that is not sustainable and the bubble had to bust one day 4 Likes |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by BuddhaPalm(m): 8:31pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics: Perhaps they should learn to pay what they can afford. If no one pays a ridiculous fee for something, the price adjusts to meet current realities. 4 Likes |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by bluefilm: 8:32pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
charlesucheh: Low budget Dangote, I don hear you na. |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by frankson1(m): 8:38pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics: It is unfair for you to omit other clubs who are not in the 'top six' because they are also affected. If a club can't get a particular player then they should forget it. These same clubs you fight for are contributing in killing the game by placing high price tags on players and don't forget the 'greedy' agents. The bottom line is, clubs should cut down their spending. Why should a club keep players who only get to play less than 5-10 games in total in a season and goes home with over a 100k pounds weekly. 1 Like |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by Pauljj: 8:54pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
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Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by frankson1(m): 8:59pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
blasterman: This is what I tried explaining to him. Alexis Sanchez wasn't playing for Man. U but his weekly package was insane. How many games has Juan Mata played this season but he still goes home with his weekly pay. How can they continue to keep and pay players who are not productive? SAF always had the experienced and inexperienced in his squad. Ronaldo played along side Giggs, McTominay Played with Carrick, he had Smalling and Evans with Vidic and Rio. Da Sylva brothers either side with Neville and Evra. But this current coaches want to have 'world class' players as their first and second eleven. You know how much Man. City defense cost sometimes ago. Wesley Sneidjer didn't play for Man. U only because Man. U wasn't ready to pay the huge fee Inter Milan were asking for but guess what.. Man. U still went on to lift the the league title. Clubs should first cut their spendings and stop blaming UEFA for their debts. 1 Like |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by Eldee54321(m): 9:10pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Childofaking:u can said that again bro |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by Eldee54321(m): 9:12pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Everything they said are just FORMALTY, and according to what they wrote, they have not yet opt out of the league, nah just to calm the fans down |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by PS712: 10:38pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Vlyrics: These clubs you mentioned are where they are financially because of their choices, and even in a European Super League, they will still be indebted if they don't change their business models and modus operandi. You and the proponents of this ESL need to look beyond the financial forecasts of the moment, you have to view from so many angles the sustainability of this project, viz football in Europe and in the globe entirely. There were times in past Arsenal posted profits, even though they didn't amass trophies. Arsene Wenger maintained a policy of not using extravagant amounts in signing/maintaining a single player,..in his words he said the way some players had huge price tags on them was like the players will enter the pitch and play alone against eleven players. What he meant was caution in running down a club's finances just for signing a few players (mind you I didn't see reasons with him then, but now it's glaring). Just take a look at the huge investments Juventus made on C. Ronaldo, yet they are out of the champions league. Likewise Barcelona in ensuring Messi stays, they are also out. Chelsea spent a fortune on Ziyech, Werner and Havertz,yet these players haven't yet quite justified those investments. Meanwhile the rating of Mbappe has gone very high. What does this tell us? It means there is something wrong with the clubs' models and not the league body. The ESL with teams that won't relegate is modeled like NBA or NFL. But have you considered player movements into and out of the proposed ESL? How about the football and business cycle that will utterly change in Europe with this sudden announcement? Those proposing ESL are only speaking about their project, yet none is proffering a way out for other leagues and businesses that the new formation will affect. These and more are reasons the idea was buried before it's birth. NB: There's a super league model in EU nations League, where countries are grouped according to their strengths. 3 Likes |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by 9jaRealist: 1:02am On Apr 22, 2021 |
Vlyrics: Why should they be in the CL next season, if they have a POOR season? Is CL their birthright? Are the best players their birthright? Even MEDIOCRE Arsenal? Do you think these clubs started out as the so-called “Big 6”? Why shouldn’t other clubs have a similar shot at UPWARD MOBILITY? Chelsea was frankly average before Abramovich’s billions... Man City was a nothing yo-yo club until oil billions from Abu Dhabi. A club like Leeds use to be the biggest in England... While Man United was playing in the second division This is one problem with the globalization of the game, and all of these JJC “supporters” who neither understand nor grasp the competitive strains and traditions of the game. Remove the competitive edge (of relegation and promotion, and competition for CL and other continental places) to the game and the league, keep all/most of the money to an oligarchy at the top ensuring that other clubs cannot retain their best players or otherwise compete with that oligarchy, and you’ve basically DESTROYED the game. Might as well script it like WWE ‘wrestling’! > |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by Ilaje44(m): 3:37am On Apr 22, 2021 |
Vlyrics:So in your mind, if a business is making losses, you should not question their strategy and past decisions, but just continue to pump more money into it right? Have you asked yourself why Leicester is more successful than Arsenal in the league? Have you thought maybe this so called non elite clubs might have a better work ethics and financial control than the wasteful elites? Simply because the so called elite clubs are spending huge amount of money on players sometimes undeservedly too does not mean they should get more from the cake. The amount spent on players should never be a determinant of what they get, but the success they get from their investments. In football, success is about winning, and if they are not winning, the loosing teams don't deserve more money than the winning teams. If they are not OK with UEFA they can still go ahead and create their own association and leave FIFA affiliated FAs. |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by blasterman(m): 3:57am On Apr 22, 2021 |
All in all this was an attempt to money grab. La Liga is not making enough tv money to sustain Real Madrid and Barca compared to premier league Real Madrid is in heavy debt and they want to use this super league to escape their debt. The fault is of their own making. Real Madrid is a wasteful club if u ask me They have longer throat and want the best regardless of price. Hazard is on the bench collecting 416000$ per week not playing Luka modric, tony kroos above 250000$ per week now they want to add mbappe. how dem no go bankrupt. |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by ericmor: 6:27am On Apr 22, 2021 |
Childofaking: They said that already |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by oyatainer(m): 7:06am On Apr 22, 2021 |
blasterman: What are you saying exactly, one can lose the count of how many stars Ferguson hijacked from other teams in Premier league. The truth is that when Man United were buying, you can't even drag with them because they are stronger than others and their names is even another attraction on its own. The only difference is that there was no inflation that time. Money had value unlike now. |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by oyatainer(m): 7:13am On Apr 22, 2021 |
frankson1: You only mention the few of the players. What about the ones Ferguson get from other teams? I remember Berbatov, Rooney and others. Look around, it's still happening today but there is depreciation of value. This current chelsea: Zouma Mount Jamea ABRHAM Christensen |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by frankson1(m): 9:08am On Apr 22, 2021 |
oyatainer: I didn't say SAF didn't buy or clubs shouldn't buy players but the cost of some players now is 'crazy', Maguire as a case study. Do you mean depreciation of price or player value? |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by maasoap(m): 9:46am On Apr 22, 2021 |
sevo: Dumb people has no business quoting intelligent people. Don't try that again! |
Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by blasterman(m): 2:02pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
oyatainer: Ferguson used a team of mainly academy products to win 95-96 premierleague that team later on went to win Champions league in 99. The y overturned Newcastle on the last day to win the title .Back then New castle was strong. most of those academy players turned into global stars that won man uni all those titles that make them popular today. The core of the team beckhma giggs scholes etc. if u were not born in 95 u can google
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Re: Juventus, AC Milan Issue Statements On The European Super League Project by sevo(m): 4:36pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
maasoap: Touché my nigga....right back at ya |
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