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Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by LordReed(m): 9:50pm On Apr 30, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Save your sanctimonious BS for someone else. When you were spewing your bigoted nonsense you felt in the right, now you are on the receiving end you are crying crocodile tears. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by Image123(m): 10:35pm On Apr 30, 2021 |
LordReed: Still don't make it a moral law. Those laws were mainly for their health and hygiene, and there has to be a semblance of seriousness and punishment attached to disobedience else it won't be taken seriously. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by 1Sharon(f): 1:36am On May 01, 2021 |
Image123: Nope but it's in the holey buybull |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by Image123(m): 7:43am On May 01, 2021 |
1Sharon: Meditate on the bold until you understand. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by LordReed(m): 8:14am On May 01, 2021 |
Image123: There is no health consequence for eating crayfish or shrimp or crab or lobster so it was a pointless restriction except as a way to further cultural norms. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by Image123(m): 8:46am On May 01, 2021 |
LordReed: Good that you have taken the point, no need deviating i think. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by LordReed(m): 11:04am On May 01, 2021 |
Image123: And I don't care if its a moral law or not, it changed. No set of laws will remain unchanging for ever. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by Image123(m): 11:30am On May 01, 2021 |
LordReed: The point was/is the law or Word of God is an unchanging leveller and standard for ALL. And that eating food is not a moral law. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by Image123(m): 7:31pm On May 01, 2021 |
LordReed: Duh, the moral law of God remains an unchanging leveller forever and ever. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by Image123(m): 10:15pm On May 01, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus: Since you found it hard telling if you're a Christian, in the meanwhile find some time to listen to this. And i suppose Reed should do same too. It's of help to you guys if you are not busy attacking the messenger and other such fallacies instead of trying to listen and learn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1XJ7DeR5fc |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by LordReed(m): 7:43am On May 02, 2021 |
Image123: Oh Like the one where it was morally OK to stone people for adultery? |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by Image123(m): 9:27am On May 02, 2021 |
LordReed: Stoning adulterers is not a law, is it? It was a judgment/punishment. Stop trying hard yet again to deviate. We are talking about laws for ALL humans, laws that guide our actions. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by LordReed(m): 10:49am On May 02, 2021 |
Image123: Punishments are dictated by law, there is absolutely no reason to attempt a distinction. Laws are made by communities and in our times by nations. There is nothing like laws for all humans, at least not yet so you are one desperate to deviate. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by Image123(m): 1:12pm On May 02, 2021 |
LordReed: Think carefully Reed. We were discussing about moral laws that affect all humanity. You said that before the Bible, there were laws. i said the Bible agrees to such but that those laws are made by unstable human conscience. The Word of God is a universal and unchanging leveller. Then you began to bring up fish which was rightly shot down as not being a moral law or of the same class. Clearly, we have been talking about laws that affect all i.e applicable to all, what all should do, considered as good or bad. The standard as it were on morality, your relationship to one another and to God. So when we say no stealing, no killing, no adultery etc, these are things affecting men(humans) morally and for all times. If man's views fluctuate concerning them, God's Word does not. So when you take it to another angle of punishment for breaking the law, that is a different thing not applicable to all. We are not all judges or courts, except you are subscribing to jungle justice. Punishment for disobeying the law was not what we were discussing, we were discussing the law itself. Stop deviating. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by LordReed(m): 2:02pm On May 02, 2021 |
Image123: The laws before the Bible were only applicable to the communities that made them so can I be saying they applied to all humans? The law itself must contain punishment for its disobedience or else it has no force. Can you take any law and excise it of it's punishments and still think you have a law? The law is a totality, you are the one deviating, calling it ceremonial law, moral law and trying distinguish between a law and the punishments it prescribes. I am talking of law as a whole, you want to take parts of it. |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by Image123(m): 2:33pm On May 02, 2021 |
LordReed: i didn't say that the laws before the Bible were applied to all humans, OF COURSE NOT. i say just like you say that there were laws before the Bible. And that the Bible attests to same. But that the huge difference is that the Bible laws(what we've being referring to as moral laws) is a Universal and Unchanging Leveller forever. Evidently, the law is different from the punishment as you have agreed. The law is what we are talking about, not the punishment. If your personal opinion is that a law must/can not be separated from its punishment, that is your personal opinion. You are free to have it. However, it is not so in the Bible and in reality. An offence can have different punishment and fines. i don't make the separations, you surely have heard these things before this current discussion. i only remeind you of them to give you a true perspective. Are you aware that some countries did away with(or try to) the death penalty. Are those crimes that carried the penalty done away with or the punishment was changed? |
Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. by GracieX3(f): 6:38am On May 05, 2021 |
Jashub: The irony here is that you have spouted so much ignorance about atheism that you have become the morally depraved character that you are out against. 1. First of all, christianity alone has done much damage to the world more than any other belief or non belief. They were pioneers in many forms of torture (see catholic treatment of heretics). They were pioneers of large scale warfare- see the crusades. Furthermore, Hitler was not an atheist- he believed in some sort of Aryan christian God. Also, Stalin, despite being an atheist, was a product of harsh christian treatment from the repression when he attended a seminary. 2. Atheists have contributed a lot to science and technology. Most scientists in the west are atheists or agnostics. Steve Jobs is an atheist while Bill gate is a deist. Zuckerberg was an atheist but now religious. 3. I am an atheist and I do not believe that we came by accident. What I believe is that we dont know the origin of life. That is a fact. Nobody knows 1 Like |
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