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Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ictjobber: 12:12pm On May 09, 2021 |
Reex12: 2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,(C) 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”(D) 4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.(E) 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God,(F) knowing good and evil.” 6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable(G) for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband,(H) who was with her, and he ate it.(I) 7. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked;(J) so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves. He didn't lie to them. He told them what would happen if they ate from the tree. When they succumbed and ate from the tree, they didn't die, instead what he said would happen, happened. Both their eyes opened.... How is that a lie? Reex12: Mr A promised to give Mr B ₦5,000 if he cleaned his shoes Mr B rejects the offer because he feels he is above the ₦5,000 Abeg, from the above would you call Mr A a liar?? Reex12: Still here |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Krismas(m): 12:18pm On May 09, 2021 |
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Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by GeneralDae: 12:19pm On May 09, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:More Confusion. My man, almost every denomination in any religion would claim to be the chosen ones and true believers on the right path. From the Shites in Islam who believe that Muhammed's true successor was Ali not Abu Bakr to the Wahabi's who believe they should fight and conquer for the purpose of Jihad, or from Eckankar to Christ Embassy. Every denomination believe they have a special Revelation, so stop adding to this mass confusion. What you should do is explain this seeming disparity between Daniel here and say Paul for instance who called Satan the god of this world. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ictjobber: 12:19pm On May 09, 2021 |
Valkan: He never said anything about them being immortal or all knowing.... He was specific. He told them they were going to know good and evil once they eat from the tree. 4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.(E) 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God,(F) knowing good and evil.” So now the question is -> when they ate the fruit did their eyes open or not? |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by BluntTheApostle(m): 12:22pm On May 09, 2021 |
Reex12: First instance, Satan did not lie. He only told the truth. He said their eyes would open and they would be like God, knowing good and evil. And that was what happened. Second Instance, Satan did not lie. Everything he said is in the Scriptures. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by paltielx: 12:22pm On May 09, 2021 |
Krismas:Lolz if so what does the WORLD at John 3:16 mean? |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by jclassiq(m): 12:24pm On May 09, 2021 |
1 John 5:19 says, "We know that we are children of God, and that THE WHOLE WORLD IS UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE WICKED ONE." Do you need more convincing, sire? |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by paltielx: 12:25pm On May 09, 2021 |
Krismas:And why Did Jesus asked us to pray for God's Kingdom to come if we are already in his kingdom? |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by jclassiq(m): 12:29pm On May 09, 2021 |
ictjobber:Satan lied in Isaiah 14:13; You said in your heart, "I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon." |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by GeneralDae: 12:29pm On May 09, 2021 |
PoliteActivist Questions:The story is a tale meant to enlighten the people. Christians are taking it too seriously. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil has to do with choices and consequences. It is not a physical tree. 2) Did God know in advance they'd disobey Him?That's another big contradiction for the literalist. If God knows everything, then of course he can't claim to not know they would disobey him. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ictjobber: 12:31pm On May 09, 2021 |
jclassiq: Pinpoint the lie |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by GeneralDae: 12:32pm On May 09, 2021 |
jclassiq:Is Isaiah 14 about Satan? |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Onliie(m): 12:41pm On May 09, 2021 |
Satan is using Adamic authority and throne |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Nascimento(m): 12:42pm On May 09, 2021 |
BrainSanitizer: There is nothing like the spirit of good and bad dwelling in man. We are free moral agents. We decide what to do, good or bad. If you say satan is not a creature, then who tempted Jesus after he got baptised? Who challenged Job's integrity before God in heaven? Who contended with Michael for the body of Moses? Who did the Bible refer to as "the god of this system of thing"? Who does was the book of revelation 12:12 referring to when it say: "... Devil has come down to you... Knowing he has a short period of time". The Devil is real. He's a wicked spirit creature influencing all the vices in the world today. Jesus came to break the works of the Devil not the work of man, but the works of the Devil. Please get that. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Nobody: 12:43pm On May 09, 2021 |
ictjobber: n[b]knowing good and bad didn't even know that what she was about doing was bad was she oblivious of the fact she was commiting the evil crime of breaking a rule not just any but the one rule she was told to never break[/b] |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Krismas(m): 12:46pm On May 09, 2021 |
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Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Nascimento(m): 12:46pm On May 09, 2021 |
Onliie: Please what's Adamic authority and throne? |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by donchibe: 12:47pm On May 09, 2021 |
No Satan did not lie, he said the truth. The world is Satans own but the earth is God's own. There are defference between the world and the earth. The world is the system not a physical thing but earth is physical. Example the world system is Satan's doing but the day he will try to size the air or dry the ocean God will teach him a lesson. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by GeneralDae: 12:49pm On May 09, 2021 |
Krismas:I am not mistaken because the Daniel passage is also saying that God rules in the affairs of men ( socialism, Democracy, etc) and gives the kingdom to whoever he chooses. Even Paul slightly agreed with Daniel in the book of Romans 13 when he says every authority was put in place by God to punish evil and correct you, yet you are saying Satan rules in the political affairs of the world? Can't you see the contradiction? |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ictjobber: 12:50pm On May 09, 2021 |
Valkan: Okay?? |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Nascimento(m): 12:50pm On May 09, 2021 |
GeneralDae: Granted God has the power to know everything, but he choose not to interfere in all things. He create man as free moral agent. He gave man the liberty to choose. The only thing required for man to show his integrity to God and continue to enjoy blessings is to be obedient. But man chose to follow Satan, hence we suffer from our first parents single act of disobedience. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Reex12(m): 12:52pm On May 09, 2021 |
ictjobber:it seems you do not understand that verse Eve; We should not eat of it lest we die satan; you will not die but have knowledge of good and evil Did they not still die? both spiritually death and physically was there immortality not stripped away from them?Yes theres is no way you will beguile(decieve) a person without lying to him the fact that you and eve do not understand the death satan talked about doesnt change the fact that he lied john8:4 |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Krismas(m): 12:53pm On May 09, 2021 |
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Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Nobody: 12:56pm On May 09, 2021 |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by GeneralDae: 12:57pm On May 09, 2021 |
Nascimento There is nothing like the spirit of good and bad dwelling in man. We are free moral agents. We decide what to do, good or bad.That's thesame thing now. The spirit of good and bad in man means we have the power in us to decide good or bad. If you say satan is not a creature, then who tempted Jesus after he got baptised? Who challenged Job's integrity before God in heaven? Who contended with Michael for the body of Moses? Who did the Bible refer to as "the god of this system of thing"? Who does was the book of revelation 12:12 referring to when it say: "... Devil has come down to you... Knowing he has a short period of time".Satan is that evil voice within you. It is not a creature. Any Evil man resisting God's will is Satan. When Peter spoke against the will of God for Jesus, Jesus immediately recognized the evil voice speaking was satan. There is no such creature called Satan. Humans are the satans of this world. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by paltielx: 12:59pm On May 09, 2021 |
Krismas:Jesus asked us to pray for God's will to be done on earth because satan is doing his will on the earth |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by GeneralDae: 1:00pm On May 09, 2021 |
Nascimento:If God knew that Adam and Eve would eat from the tree, then there was no such thing as freewill anymore for Adam and Eve, because what existed in God's foreknowledge could never have become false at any point in time except you are saying whatever is in God's foreknowledge can always change which would then mean God doesn't know everything. 1 Like |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by BananaPeel(m): 1:01pm On May 09, 2021 |
petra1:Satan only have rulership over those who don't know who they are in Christ Jesus. Jesus Christ took everything from Satan in the Resurrection. 2Cor4.4 tells us about the forces that doesn't want the children of disobedient to be saved because whomever you yield your members to becomes your master. If you are yielded to Christ,He becomes your master and Satan has no hold on you. The Bible also refer to us as gods and children of the Most High. Every believer who knows his rights in redemption is far above all the whiles and caprices of the devil. We are to rule here on the earth as Kings and Priests. We are to rule in the midst of our enemies, the devil inclusive, as Kings and Priests. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by deleson: 1:02pm On May 09, 2021 |
Good answer. To expand the thought; the fall of man delegated all the original premium privileges of man to Satan. Hence, the intervention of Jesus as the redeemer to reclaim the lost glory of man. Only those who truly accept Jesus Christ can be bought and brought back into the core and primal kingdom of God, starting from this earth. The major things man lost at the garden were PEACE and PROSPERITY (now and future) with himself and God. Those are the fundamental things we receive from at Salvation, coupled with other blessings. Glory to God for the salvation of our souls. petra1: |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Krismas(m): 1:04pm On May 09, 2021 |
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Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by engrchykae(m): 1:06pm On May 09, 2021 |
bingbagbo:Adam lost his Glory, became naked,but Satan is still in his splendor, Adam cannot rule being naked,the second Adam came to retrieve what the first Adam Lost. As Adam lost his Glory,Satan remained the angel of light. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by APOSTLECHUMA: 1:10pm On May 09, 2021 |
SATAN KNOWS THE BIBLE MORE THAN THE MAN THAT MADE THIS POST. GOD GAVE ADAM DOMINIONSHIP OVER THE EARTH, AND THAT KINGDOM WAS BULLT ON RIGHTEOUS. WITH THE FALL HOWEVER, MAN LOST THAT POWER AND IT GOT INTO SATAN'S HAND. DEVIL WAS RIGHT AND CHRIST KNEW IT AS HE DIDNT CONTEST THAT WITH SATAN. TO KNOW WHO IS INCHARGE OVER THIS WORLD, U DONT NEED TO LOOK FAR.THE WARS, THE IMMORALITIES EVERY WHERE, THE CORRUPTION AND RITUAL KILLINGS, BANDITRY ETC, SHOWS THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD CONTROLLED BY SATAN. CHRIST DIED TO RESTORE US TO DOMINIOSHIP AND WHEN THE TIME COMES, THE WILL OF GOD WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AGAIN AS IT WAS ONCE IN EDEN AND AS IT IS IN HEAVEN THE WAY WE PRAY IN OUR LORD'S PRAYER AND IT WIL BE BASED ON RIGHTEOUSNESS. TILL THEN, WE ALL ARE LIVING IN DEUIL'S WORLD AND EVERY GOVERNMENT OF THIS EARTH IS OF SATAN. MONEY IS ALSO IN DEVIL'S HAND, THAT IS WHY TO BECOME EXTREMELY RICH, YOU HAVE 2 BE CROOKED. GOD HOWEVER PROVIDES 4HIS OWN BUT HE IS MORE INTERESTD IN OUR SALVATION THAN IN MAKING US MILLIONAIRES. |
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