jantman:
Yettyflower
I open a new thread just to write you here because I wanted others to see their own impatient as most people do not understand the jouney of faith. You made a statement that shows that your mindset is a problem to youself. You complain that you stop smoking when you receive a prophecy that didn't come to pass and sometimes you felt like going back to your past life.

God is not the problem, you are the problem because you haven't understand that a true christian is known by their suffering and love. Your life here on earth is like a spiritual school, how faithful you are in every phase of life (classes of trials) your faithness and patient will determine your next level in the school of trials. God can instantly bless you with money but that blessing can become dangerous to your physical life and your spiritual wellbeing if you are not spiritually mature.

You said you sometime wonder why God let's all that so called bad people have all they wants. It looks as if he just rewards all those who go against what he says they should do.

Those bad guys will temporarily have all they want base on God permissive will, you will not have all that you wants base on God's perfect will and His timming.

It is obvious that in this world, one can lie, cheat and rob others to gain temporary wealth. There are three areas that determine whether the wealth comes from God or from the Devil; a blessing or a curse. Even if only one of these areas were true, the curse would be upon the wealth. Wealth from the devil involves wealth from acts of sin, is maintained by acts of sin and propagates more acts of sin. The source, the upkeep and the goal of the supply of this money is evil. All wealth that involves the breaking of God's law is wealth from the devil. It continues to sustain the breaking of the law of God and encourages others to be wealthy by the same wicked means.

Wealth from God will come in God's timing and His blessings added no sorow. God can open a financial door for you but that doesn't mean that he has started blessing you; The blessings of God is extreme and you need to develope Godly characters to maintain God blessings.

Another thing is that you must pay a price of faith for you to obtain all your heart desires from God. For you to obtain your heart desires you must wait upon he Lord in faithfulness and in suffering.

If you want to share God's glory, you must also share His suffering. You must be willing to endure humiliation, shame and disgrace, poverty and suffering.

Going back to your former life can only put you in more bondage that may likely destroy you. Most of the things you crave for right now you dont need them in your journey of faith which is your true life and the path to your destiny. You must learn to let go of many things and look unto what is ahead. (new things will come)

Accept tears, pains, poverty, humiliation, shame and disgrace as a means to be humble. Use every challenge to be a good and humble man.

If you want God to bless you then the cross await you. I could say more to you but there is no need

I say to you: A genuine christian is known by their suffering and love

jantboy:
Yettyflower
I went through suffering for many years that nearly killed me. It was the grace of God that helped to me overcome. Looking back now I am thankful to God for the suffering He allowed me to go through. If God had not allowed me to go through many trials before blessing me I would have died before my time.

Talking about your suffering I deeply understand your pains and what you have gone through because I too have suffered. Please forgive me If I sound like blaming you over anything. I will only blame you if you go back into the world. I am only trying to encourage you to be ready to suffer more because a true christian is known by their suffering for being Christ-like. Not everyone will suffer poverty but everyone has their own share of suffering in this life. Some people will suffer sickness but the worst of the worst is poverty.

You are getting me wrong. I am not saying that you are the cause of your suffering . All I m saying is that be faithful to God no matter what you go through. I am only trying to encourage you that your suffering doesn't mean that God is not aware of all you are going through.

I implore you to be strong and not let any unpleasant situation of life shake you out of your faith in God. Yettyflower, you need to understand that trials reveals your hidden capacity to stand firm and it also reveals the bad people around your life

Be ready to suffer more.
Be courageous and dont give up

Yettyflower:


Thank you.
I will hold the flame till i win.

jantman:


I am glad and I implore to be patient and wait for the Lord to act, don't be worried about those who prosper...(Psalm 37:7)

jantman:
Many preachers has made people believe that salvation is a gateway to prosperity and wealth.

I say this because over the years I came across believers and preachers who says that you can not serve God and yet suffer poverty. They believe this lie because they don't understand the ways of God.

I understand why you say it is a Lie and you are right for that understanding however, it is not a Lie, but it is indeed True.

And the distinction is found in True Understanding of the Curse of man and also the understanding of what prosperity and wealth Truly Means in the Eye of God not according to what you or all men thought.

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Believers also dont't understand that a true christian is known by their suffering and love.

jantman:

Your life here on earth is like a spiritual school just like the physical school, how faithful you endure in every trials and phase of life (classes of trials) Your faithfulness and patient will determine your next level in the school of the spirit.

jantman:

God can instantly bless you with money but that blessing can become dangerous to your physical life and your spiritual wellbeing if you are not spiritually mature.

jantman:

Many have asked this question and wonder why God let's all the so called bad people have all they wants. It looks as if He just allowed those who go against His will to prosper an enjoy.

Those bad guys will temporarily have all they want base on God permissive will.

jantman:

You as a child of God will not have all that you wants base on God's perfect will and His timing.

jantman:

These are the qualities that will guarentee you for God's blessing, to develops these character above are the main reason why you must suffer to be bless by God.

jantboy:
Yettyflower
I went through suffering for many years that nearly killed me. It was the grace of God that helped to me overcome. Looking back now I am thankful to God for the suffering He allowed me to go through. If God had not allowed me to go through many trials before blessing me I would have died before my time.

Talking about your suffering I deeply understand your pains and what you have gone through because I too have suffered. Please forgive me If I sound like blaming you over anything. I will only blame you if you go back into the world. I am only trying to encourage you to be ready to suffer more because a true christian is known by their suffering for being Christ-like. Not everyone will suffer poverty but everyone has their own share of suffering in this life. Some people will suffer sickness but the worst of the worst is poverty.

You are getting me wrong. I am not saying that you are the cause of your suffering . All I m saying is that be faithful to God no matter what you go through. I am only trying to encourage you that your suffering doesn't mean that God is not aware of all you are going through.

I implore you to be strong and not let any unpleasant situation of life shake you out of your faith in God. Yettyflower, you need to understand that trials reveals your hidden capacity to stand firm and it also reveals the bad people around your life

Be ready to suffer more.
Be courageous and dont give up

Yettyflower:

It's easy for you to say such cause life is easy for you.
Suffering? You have no idea how much suffering I endured, I almost always think of suicide.
The constant prophets that come and say 'you should have been more than' this even makes it worse.

Isn't it God that's supposed to be make maker, then he would know that he is breaking me not bending me. If fact I think he wants me to become a bad person cause the more I sustain being good, the worse things get.
So many skills I have and no job, so many people who could help but no aid.

Must I die before he is satisfied, I'm not Job neither do I want such a fate.

It's quite easy for you to blame me for my woes and I can see how you jumped on that wagon, you must really think I don't want the best for myself, anyways I would prefer if he uses the staff and not the rod. I really don't understand why all the suffering is necessary.
The only sense it makes is for me to have compassion (limitlessly) .

Kobojunkie:
If you are one of those who have at any point in time been "spiritually" diagnosed as being demon possessed by those who call themselves Mog, may I suggest that you find time to see a psychiatrist instead to find some needed treatment for what it is that afflicts you?

If your struggle is anyway of the mental kind there is no reason to accept it as your lot. The teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ do not stand against our seeking medical or mental help when we are sick and unable to obtain healing. While you seek God, nothing stops you from using Flu medication, Malaria drugs, or even seeing a doctor if you need one.

Yettyflower:
Thanks. Tho this is not the case.

jantman:
When God walked the earth He said to the pharisees, give what belong to Cesar to Cesar and give what belong to God to God. Money is creation of man. Since the fall of the human race money came to be base on God permissive will for us.

jantman:

I remember a man who have this mindset that all the scientific invention came from the devils. He failed to understand that some men are born on earth to be scientist and God Himself is an Omniscience who created man in His own Image and likeness, therefore man is also a creator.

jantman:

Dont forget that money becomes evil when in the hands of an evil man and money is good when in the hands of a good man. Even God uses money to promotes His works of redemption here on earth. I dont know where you get the idea from that God hate money and that money is from the devil.

jesusjnr2020:
There was a time I thought I was the only that thanked God and kept thanking Him for my suffering because of the results, until I heard Kathryn Kulman say the same thing after narrating the difficulty she had to endure to become all that she was for God. And when I saw this post, I was like, wow! Because it takes a special understanding of God's ways to be able to do that.

Now that i know much better, i don't only thank God for my past sufferings but also plead with Him to ensure that any suffering I need to go through in the future to become all that He wants me to be, that He doesn't spare me but make me go through it for my own good just as He did for His beloved Son, Jesus.

It's easier said than done, but I know whatever it is, God is able to see me through just as He did when I couldn't comprehend His ways to this extent.

God bless.

jantman:


Be strong and keep on walking. There is a saying that, no matter your journey, just keep on walking.

The wilderness journey is very slow, long and painful.