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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by zero8zero(m): 1:09pm On Jun 20, 2021
Biafrannuke:
Lol... He even called them a 'branch' of anioma. Olukumis were a small number of Yoruba migrants into Delta Igbo heartland with a now extinct culture. They've since assimilated to Igbo identity the way op would done if given the chance.
Who told you our culture is extinct?
We don't share any culture with igbos.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 1:10pm On Jun 20, 2021
zero8zero:

I don't know the stupid blog where you got your gutter narratives.
Akure warriors called Igbos Olukumi? cheesy.. This blog writer must be a mad man.
Why would Yoruba call Igbo Olukumi?. Was that the first time Yoruba people encountered igbos in history?.
There was never a time where a Yoruba group called Igbos Olukumi. Yoruboid in Delta are called Olukumi.
There was no where in our history where Oba of Benin sent Akure warriors to go after igbos fleeing Benin. Stop following stupid blogs for the sake of your sanity.

Who are you? Yoruba Muslim like you! Do you Know the road to Odiani?
Odiani people are telling you their real story and you are here talking nonsense.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 1:12pm On Jun 20, 2021
theTranslator:
No coercion here
If the people say they are Yoruboid
They are and will be accepted

They are not Yoruboid.
Look elsewhere!
Odiani are bonafide Enuani people who accommodated Yoruba warriors and acculturated them into Igbo culture.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 1:14pm On Jun 20, 2021
Klinee:
I believe they're more igala than Yoruba because they share no boundaries with the Yorubas but they share boundaries with Igala.
Their language is much similar to the igala than Yoruba.
I have been to ugbodu, I think they should join Igala than claiming Yoruba.

Lol!
Inukwa! grin

Dream on!

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by zero8zero(m): 1:14pm On Jun 20, 2021
Igboid:


Who are you?
The owner of the blog is a well known Ugbodu person.
Who are you?
A mad man can claim Ugbodu to attract dumb minds to his blog.
I know our history like the palm of my hands. All in the blog is pure trash.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by zero8zero(m): 1:16pm On Jun 20, 2021
BKayy:

From "We The Niger Delta" to this one?
My friend have some dignity
Go and erase the history of Olukumi.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 1:19pm On Jun 20, 2021
zero8zero:

A mad man can claim Ugbodu to attract dumb minds to his blog.
I know our history like the palm of my hands. All in the blog is pure trash.

Who is "our" ? grin

Ugbodu don't have slammerians Biko.
Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by zero8zero(m): 1:24pm On Jun 20, 2021
Igboid:


Who are you? Yoruba Muslim like you! Do you Know the road to Odiani?
Odiani people are telling you their real story and you are here talking nonsense.
Anyone that does not agree with your igbotic view is Yoruba Muslim.
It's only Igbo in 5 south east states that are shocked that Yoruboid group could be found in the heartland of Anioma.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 1:29pm On Jun 20, 2021
zero8zero:

Anyone that does not agree with your igbotic view is Yoruba Muslim.
It's only Igbo in 5 south east states that are shocked that Yoruboid group could be found in the heartland of Anioma.

Ugbodu is not Yoruba.
Move on.
At best they can be said to be a member of the "defoid" ie the common language tree the proto Igala and Proto Yoruba people emerged from.
Either way, they met aboriginal Igbos on ground who acculturated and assimilated them.
Out of the 6 Odiani communities, 4 has been fully assimilated as Igbo speakers, while only 2 are still bilingual in Igbo(Enuani) and Olukumi( defoid) language.

Also it has to be understood that Olukumi is as intelligible to Yorubas as Igala is to Yorubas.
They are not mutually intelligible.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by zero8zero(m): 2:08pm On Jun 20, 2021
Igboid:


Ugbodu is not Yoruba.
Move on.
At best they can be said to be a member of the "defoid" ie the common language tree the proto Igala and Proto Yoruba people emerged from.
Either way, they met aboriginal Igbos on ground who acculturated and assimilated them.
Out of the 6 Odiani communities, 4 has been fully assimilated as Igbo speakers, while only 2 are still bilingual in Igbo(Enuani) and Olukumi( defoid) language.

Also it has to be understood that Olukumi is as intelligible to Yorubas as Igala is to Yorubas.
They are not mutually intelligible.
You must be a very confused person in life. First, you claimed Olukumi are igbos and Now, you're saying Igbo people have been assimilated as Igbo speakers.

When people on this forum say igbos are revisionist and derive pleasure in bringing others down. I am beginning to agree.
FYI, Ugbodu is an Olukumi town. In fact, the headquarters of Olukumi.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by zero8zero(m): 2:11pm On Jun 20, 2021
Igboid:


Who is "our" ? grin

Ugbodu don't have slammerians Biko.
We are Christians 100%. Our ancestry is Yoruba.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Etrusen(m): 2:11pm On Jun 20, 2021
Another craziness
Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by theTranslator: 3:49pm On Jun 20, 2021
Igboid:


They are not Yoruboid.
Look elsewhere!
Odiani are bonafide Enuani people who accommodated Yoruba warriors and acculturated them into Igbo culture.
As I said if the people say they are Yoruboid

You have no say

This is the reason igbos are not respected

You can't force them

Do you know that most Yoruba in Brazil and cuba are called lucumi a curruption of olukumi?
Elliotwaveforec:
I have a friend from that part of Delta state; the dialect sounds like Ilaje. Being from Delta state, I took him as an Itsherkiri but said he is Olukunmi. I was surprised because the only Yoruba subgroup I thought existed in Delta state was Itsherkiri.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by theTranslator: 3:57pm On Jun 20, 2021
Etrusen:
Another craziness

This is on their Wikipedia page

The Olukwumi people is a subgroup of the Yoruba people of the Aniocha North area of the Delta State, Nigeria. The Olukwumi occupy eight communities west of the Niger river, and are together known today as the Odiani Clan in Aniomaland. Historically, the Odianis are the Yoruba clans in the Anioma cultural area. Ukwu Nzu (Eko Efun) town is the historical headquarters of the Olukwumi people and is traditionally headed by the Obi of Ukwu Nzu, Agbogidi The present Obi is H.R.M. Obi Ogoh 1. Olukwumi villages select leaders through the Okpala Obi system, which is the Okpala (gerontocracy) of the Yorubas. The Odianis today are seen as Igbos in Delta State, together with the Ezechime who and Idumuje clan . The Anioma people are the Igbo subgroup from Aniocha (Enuani and Olukwumi), Ndokwa (Ukwuani), Ika, and Oshimili areas of Delta State.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 4:18pm On Jun 20, 2021
theTranslator:

This is on their Wikipedia page

The Olukwumi people is a subgroup of the Yoruba people of the Aniocha North area of the Delta State, Nigeria. The Olukwumi occupy eight communities west of the Niger river, and are together known today as the Odiani Clan in Aniomaland. Historically, the Odianis are the Yoruba clans in the Anioma cultural area. Ukwu Nzu (Eko Efun) town is the historical headquarters of the Olukwumi people and is traditionally headed by the Obi of Ukwu Nzu, Agbogidi The present Obi is H.R.M. Obi Ogoh 1. Olukwumi villages select leaders through the Okpala Obi system, which is the Okpala (gerontocracy) of the Yorubas. The Odianis today are seen as Igbos in Delta State, together with the Ezechime who and Idumuje clan . The Anioma people are the Igbo subgroup from Aniocha (Enuani and Olukwumi), Ndokwa (Ukwuani), Ika, and Oshimili areas of Delta State.

Lol!
Yoruba and Igala people have been editing and reediting that Wikipedia page for a living for a while now. grin

Yorubas practice Okpara bu isi gerontocracy?
Since when? cheesy grin

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Elliotwaveforec: 5:25pm On Jun 20, 2021
Igboid:


Lol!
Yoruba and Igala people have been editing and reediting that Wikipedia page for a living for a while now. grin

Yorubas practice Okpara bu isi gerontocracy?
Since when? cheesy grin

We have mainstream Igbo and Anioma Igbo; the latter are originally Igala, Yoruba and Benin. It's only Aniomas who do not know their history would dispute this.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 5:29pm On Jun 20, 2021
Elliotwaveforec:


We have mainstream Igbo and Anioma Igbo; the latter are originally Igala, Yoruba and Benin. It's only Aniomas who do not know their history would dispute this.

Lol!
What about mainriver , mainocean and mainfountain Igbos? cheesy grin

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Klinee: 5:52pm On Jun 20, 2021
zero8zero:

You must be a very confused person in life. First, you claimed Olukumi are igbos and Now, you're saying Igbo people have been assimilated as Igbo speakers.

When people on this forum say igbos are revisionist and derive pleasure in bringing others down. I am beginning to agree.
FYI, Ugbodu is an Olukumi town. In fact, the headquarters of Olukumi.
Olukumi is far deviated Igala.
They also bear Igala name like Ugbade and share common boundary with neighboring Ebu which is also Igala speaking town.
Igala begot many Igbo speaking part of Delta, Anambra and Enugu but because of acculturation and proximity many were influence by high Igbo population which makes them adopted Igbo language today.
Even the remnants Igala speaking towns within those vicinity are all vigorously adopting Igbo language.
Ugbodu, Oku-nzu, Ebu(Delta Igalas) Illushi(Edo Igala), All Anambra Igala speaking part which NZAM my home town is part of , all Enugu Igala speaking part, are all adopting Igbo language posing a threat for the extinction of our mother language.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by zero8zero(m): 5:58pm On Jun 20, 2021
Igboid:


Lol!
Yoruba and Igala people have been editing and reediting that Wikipedia page for a living for a while now. grin

Yorubas practice Okpara bu isi gerontocracy?
Since when? cheesy grin
We practice gerontocracy. The elders take the lead. It is also a standard practice among Yorubas

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by agadez007(m): 6:05pm On Jun 20, 2021
zero8zero:

Who told you our culture is extinct?
We don't share any culture with igbos.
I hate delving into culture but this your comment caught my eye how can you be surrounded by igbo speaking communities and then turn around to claim you have zero culture with igbos even your kings name is isinyemeze (correct me if i am wrong but that name has a meaning in igbo language)
Except you are an imposter but you should know that olukumi people are closer to igala people than they are to oduduwa people

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 6:06pm On Jun 20, 2021
zero8zero:

We practice gerontocracy. The elders take the lead. It is also a standard practice among Yorubas

Lol!
Yorubaland is a Monarchical society. grin

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 6:07pm On Jun 20, 2021
agadez007:
I hate delving into culture but this your comment caught my eye how can you be surrounded by igbo speaking communities and then turn around to claim you have zero culture with igbos even your kings name is isinyemeze (correct me if i am wrong but that name has a meaning in igbo language)
Except you are an imposter but you should know that olukumi people are closer to igala people than they are to oduduwa people

Don't tell me you are that unperceptive.
Dude is a Yoruba Muslim from Oyo state. grin

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 6:17pm On Jun 20, 2021
Klinee:
Olukumi is far deviated Igala.
They also bear Igala name like Ugbade and share common boundary with neighboring Ebu which is also Igala speaking town.
Igala begot many Igbo speaking part of Delta, Anambra and Enugu but because of acculturation and proximity many were influence by high Igbo population which makes them adopted Igbo language today.
Even the remnants Igala speaking towns within those vicinity are all vigorously adopting Igbo language.
Ugbodu, Oku-nzu, Ebu(Delta Igalas) Illushi(Edo Igala), All Anambra Igala speaking part which NZAM my home town is part of , all Enugu Igala speaking part, are all adopting Igbo language posing a threat for the extinction of our mother language.

Don't be silly.
Many Igala refugees fleeing from Attah Igala cruelty were accommodated in many Parts of Northern Igboland (Anioma, Anambra North and Enugu North) where they coexist with Igbo aboriginals they met on ground.
Some of them came as Invaders and were trapped or a stalemate ensued and they had to find a way to co-exist.

Nzam is also a bonafide Igbo town that the Igbo aboriginals had to quell and subdue Igala Invaders after a fierce battle.
The Igalas were allowed to stay and have been peacefully and slowly acculturated and assimilated as Igbos over the years.

Anytime any of you are tired of this peaceful acculturation process, you will be chased back to Idah where you invading, war mongering or refugee ancestors came from.

Beware. Igbo nationalism is currently a moving train and at its peak. Don't remind us of your Igala ancestors aggression that brought you to our land to start with, you will be ruthlessly crushed.

cc: Bkkay

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by agadez007(m): 6:22pm On Jun 20, 2021
Igboid:


Don't tell me you are that unperceptive.
Dude is a Yoruba Muslim from Oyo state. grin
He might be olukumi
If i were olukumi i would just jejely be Igbo like that ugbodu guy on Facebook, there is no way olukumi would be with oduduwa or igala Nation if Nigeria breaks up, their fore fathers messed up by getting themselves surrounded by igbo speaking people

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by zero8zero(m): 6:30pm On Jun 20, 2021
Igboid:


Lol!
Yorubaland is a Monarchical society. grin
How does it prevent an elder from being a monarch?

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by zero8zero(m): 6:34pm On Jun 20, 2021
agadez007:
I hate delving into culture but this your comment caught my eye how can you be surrounded by igbo speaking communities and then turn around to claim you have zero culture with igbos even your kings name is isinyemeze (correct me if i am wrong but that name has a meaning in igbo language)
Except you are an imposter but you should know that olukumi people are closer to igala people than they are to oduduwa people
It is funny how people say we are closer to Igalas than to Yoruba.
By proximity, we are closer to our Igala, edoid and igboid neighbors. By ancestry, we are Yoruboid. Our ancestors migrated from Owo in Ondo State. We have never denied who we are.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by UDbester(m): 6:43pm On Jun 20, 2021
Dear OP, when there was no internet, only your close ones knows you as a m.o.r.o.n, but now, I really don't know....
Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Nobody: 6:46pm On Jun 20, 2021
OBALOLA55:
EARLY MORNING COLORADO WEED sad

Cry me a river.
Igbos. All you know is to snatch people's land and culture.
You're pained Yorubas are emerging from SS. You would have loved if you snatch and marginalize the whole of SS as Igbos. Sometimes I don't know the difference between Fulanis and Igbos, you have many things in common.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Nobody: 6:48pm On Jun 20, 2021
zero8zero:

It is funny how people say we are closer to Igalas than to Yoruba.
By proximity, we are closer to our Igala, edoid and igboid neighbors. By ancestry, we are Yoruboid. Our ancestors migrated from Owo in Ondo State. We have never denied who we are.

God bless you my brother. Thanks for this great thread.
Because Yorubas are passive in history, Igbos keep snatching our people in SS from us.
A typical Yoruba on Nairaland doesn't know the difference between SS and SE.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by Igboid: 6:55pm On Jun 20, 2021
agadez007:
He might be olukumi
If i were olukumi i would just jejely be Igbo like that ugbodu guy on Facebook, there is no way olukumi would be with oduduwa or igala Nation if Nigeria breaks up, their fore fathers messed up by getting themselves surrounded by igbo speaking people

He is not an Olukumi. I am 100%sure of this. grin
He is 100% Yoruba Muslim.

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Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by BKayy: 8:50pm On Jun 20, 2021
zero8zero:

Go and erase the history of Olukumi.
It never existed in the first place
Re: OLUKUMI: The Delta People Of Yoruba Extraction by BKayy: 8:52pm On Jun 20, 2021
zero8zero:

Anyone that does not agree with your igbotic view is Yoruba Muslim.
It's only Igbo in 5 south east states that are shocked that Yoruboid group could be found in the heartland of Anioma.
What is South East?
I've never heard of that

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