Commentor:
Simple question:

Why would such individuals collectively be missing from the burial of a cleric of such repute?

HigherEd:

Simply because reputation doesn't matter.

HigherEd:
TB Joshua recently passed on, and I wish his entire family and all those who loved him the grace to bear that loss.

However, there's some high level silliness pervading the internet accusing CAN, PFN, and all top pastors of wickedness, envy, hatred and all sort of other vices for neither sending condolences nor attending the burial of TB Joshua. I would like to address many of these criticisms on a case by case basis.

Are Pastors like Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya truly envious of TB Joshua's accomplishment?


With no disrespect aimed at anyone, this is a silly accusation. For you to be envious of someone, you would need to believe or think they've achieved something you would never achieve in your own personal or professional life.
What superficial items could make the top five pastors in Nigeria be so envious of TB Joshua? Is it congregational size, wealth, influence, followership. Unless you can identify a particular area of accomplishment TB Joshua made where other listed pastors under achieve then this accusation makes no sense.

Do pastors like Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya and the entire CAN hate TB Joshua for competitive reasons.

Nigeria's pentecostal movement is highly filled with pastors outbuilding themselves. Last year, the Glory dome by Enenche was the largest auditorium in Nigeria surpassing Faith tabernacle by Oyedepo. Today, the Finger of God being built by Ibeyeomie might overtake that record. If Enenche should hate anybody for competitive reasons it should definitely be Ibeoymie not TB Joshua. But in reality Enenche and Ibeyeomie are as close as blood Brothers.

TB Joshua at no point in history built universities or attempted to build the largest auditorium, therefore there seems to be no justification why certain pastors could gang up against him for competitive reasons.

Are CAN, PFN or other top pastors in disagreement with TB Joshua's doctrine?


Christianity is one of the most divergent religions with millions of denominations. A church like living faith is very different from a church like deeper life. They disagree on a whole of doctrinal issues. However, they both validate themselves as members of the body of Christ. Therefore, if a Church like living faith can associate with a church like deeper life, then there's no conceivable proof that a TB Joshua was ostracized on mere doctrinal differences.

Was TB Joshua ostracized from CAN, PFN and other mainstream churches?

Absolutely yes. He was ostracized, but not for the silly reasons many people have spoken about which includes envy, jealousy, unforgiveness etc. The difference with TB Joshua was very fundamental with many believing he was neither a Christian, while others had farther theories that he draws power from an underworld source. It is not in my place to give credence or confirm/deny these allegations. However, it is very important to state categorically what the reasons were and not just fill the internet with all kinds of needless criticisms.

LikeAking:


Take down this post.

U don pass dis kin write up.

How much dem pay you?

Commentor:


Actually, it does and it did.

HigherEd:

You are wrong. It never matters.

Reputation shouldn't be the basis of your association with anyone in life or death.

Reputable people die everyday, that doesn't mean all other reputable people must attend or identify with them in death. That would be joblessness and hypocrisy.

In other words, they hated TB Joshua.

He wasn't one for them to associate with in living or in death.

What would Jesus do?

jesusjnr2020:
True that TB Joshua was diabolic, and I have no apologies for saying that, the good works he did and his outward attitude makes it almost impossible for even some elect not to be deceived.

I believe that church leaders like Oyedepo would be better off if they could emulate that good part.

God bless.

Thanksful:


Oyedepo and many church leaders are doing very well in welfare of their members and host communities but aren't loud in their deeds

jesusjnr2020:
True that TB Joshua was diabolic, and I have no apologies for saying that, the good works he did and his outward attitude makes it almost impossible for even some elect not to be deceived.

I believe that church leaders like Oyedepo would be better off if they could emulate that good part.

God bless.

jesusjnr2020:
True that TB Joshua was diabolic, and I have no apologies for saying that, the good works he did and his outward attitude makes it almost impossible for even some elect not to be deceived.

I believe that church leaders like Oyedepo would be better off if they could emulate that good part.

God bless.

Mecka:
Except the holy Spirit reveals, you have no right to call him diabolic

HigherEd:
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Was TB Joshua ostracized from CAN, PFN and other mainstream churches?

For example would a CAN send representation to the burial of a reputable Islamic cleric? If yes, then there maybe some justification for attending TBJ's burial given their rejection of his membership. However, if CAN wouldn't attend non Christian burials then they would be projected as hypocrites for attending that of TBJ despite delegitimising his ministry during his life time.

Should CAN have sent condolence letter?


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petra1:


Im aware TB Joshua was at one time a member of The Christian Association of Nigeria. C.A.N. comprises of Churches acrross denimination. Catholic, Ehite garmment churches such as cheribim,Celestial ,aladura ,Methodists, Pentecostal. Many Pentecodtals Pastors believe that white garment alafura churches are cults and not Christians. but at least the are still in the association.

The Hatred for TB Joshua is somply Persecutions for the strange miracles performed through him. they are so strange that many belive it can only be the devil. because non of them experience such miracles. None

jesusjnr2020:
Could you in all honesty compare them to the pioneering leaders of the church, the apostles?

That's the point.

The difference is glaring.

Acts 4:34-35 (KJV)

Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

God bless.

jesusjnr2020:
Could you in all honesty compare them to the pioneering leaders of the church, the apostles?

That's the point.

The difference is glaring.

Acts 4:34-35 (KJV)

Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

God bless.

jesusjnr2020:
The bolded of your comment has vindicated mine.

Thanksful:


Jesus said his spirit will lead his people. If God choose to deal with someone differently is his business.

Where again did this happened in scripture?

HigherEd:

I think a movement of a few thousand people is different from that of a 2 billion people today...

petra1:



The Hatred for TB Joshua is simply Persecutions for the strange miracles performed through him. They are so strange that many belive it can only be the devil. because non of them experience such miracles. None

Image123:

i understand TB is pastor Chris senior pastor but no need for lying on his behalf, that's a sin

Mention one miracle done in TB's life that none of the others experienced.
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petra1:


Im aware TB Joshua was at one time a member of The Christian Association of Nigeria. C.A.N. comprises of Churches acrross denimination. Catholic, White garmment churches such as cherubim,Celestial ,Aladura ,Methodists, Pentecostal.

Many Pentecodtals Pastors believe that white garment aladura churches are cults and not Christians. but at least the are still in the association.

The Hatred for TB Joshua is simply Persecutions for the strange miracles performed through him. They are so strange that many belive it can only be the devil. because non of them experience such miracles. None

petra1:


Pastor Chris only went there by TB request that year you dont have to keep talking childish

birdman:


If what you say in the bolded is true, then it is prudent for such elders to be cautious about associating with what they do not understand, no?

HigherEd:

I think a movement of a few thousand people is different from that of a 2 billion people today...

jesusjnr2020:
True that TB Joshua was diabolic, and I have no apologies for saying that, the good works he did and his outward attitude makes it almost impossible for even some elect not to be deceived.

God bless.