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Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by thorpido(m): 9:54am On Jul 17, 2021 |
haddeylium:It ceased only with Jehovah's witnesses (or was never even there). |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:59am On Jul 17, 2021 |
thorpido: I'm just curious about something! Jesus also said: "Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it.For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. Look! I have forewarned you" Matthew 24:23-25 If the GIFTS are anything to go by then it means we can compare it to legal tender in the hands of citizens around us. The chosen in the bolded color red are supposed to be part of the minting and printing department issuing the legal tender. So i wonder how fake currencies could be used to deceive someone who is working with the central bank where the money is issued out while he is having the original with him! Logically the only reason why such could be possible is when the chosen don't have the original with him anymore. I believe that's the only way fake could be used to deceive such a person. No wonder Jesus concluded by saying: Look! I have forewarned you! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:03am On Jul 17, 2021 |
thorpido: So let's watch out and see the BENEFITS of these GIFTS in the midst of those having it today! Matthew 7:16-18 ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by thorpido(m): 10:16am On Jul 17, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Again,you need to understand the construct of that language. He said, 'so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. It speaks of the seriousness of the issue not necessarily that the chosen will be deceived. Remember the Scripture that says he that letteth will let until he be taken out of the way.2 Thessalonians 2:7 It is very unlikely that someone working in CBN will be deceived by fake currency but not impossible.It was a warning. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:40am On Jul 17, 2021 |
thorpido: There's no need to warn your child not to accept fake things when you've loaded his bag with the original! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by thorpido(m): 10:47am On Jul 17, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:In today's world?Stop deceiving yourself.We are at the end of the age.Jesus made that statement knowing what the end will be. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50am On Jul 17, 2021 |
thorpido: We are talking about GIFTS and you're hear saying there will be original and fake at the same time! Sorry if anyone have ORIGINAL there's no way FAKE can deceive him! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:52am On Jul 17, 2021 |
Emusan please where is your EVIDENCE of proof regarding the last accusation o? I'm still waiting for you at least you should present it to that poor girl, don't you think so? ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by Emusan(m): 11:23am On Jul 17, 2021 |
This thread really shows that JWs and lies are 5 & 6, and it's only a body whose founder has relationship with the Father of lies himself can give birth to people defending lies like this. You claimed Jehovah witness never called themselves PROPHET when primary pupils know what Prophet means yet you claim Guidance from Jehovah, Holy Spirit, Invisible Jesus. And all these lies just to defend the previous lies. Which is true that it takes more lies to cover up lies. My questions are these to all JWs here: 1. Was there a time in the history of JWs that Holy Spirit, Jehovah or Jesus never worked with the leaders? If Yes! State the period or year. If No! Go to the next question. 2. From inception of JWs since the time of Russell, which doctrine(s) did Holy Spirit, Jehovah, Jesus Christ help the JWs leader to formulate? 3. What does it mean to be guided by the Holy Spirit in deeper truth of the scripture? 4. Which among the leaders of JWs wasn't guided by Holy Spirit, Jehovah, or Jesus in his time? 5. According to Wikipedia "In religion, a prophet is an individual who is regarded as being in contact with a divine being and is said to speak on behalf of that being, serving as an intermediary with humanity by delivering messages or teachings from the supernatural source to other people.[1][2] The message that the prophet conveys is called a prophecy." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophet Are you saying JWs has never claimed anything of this nature before especially the underlined? 6. Lastly, do you agree you lied or you lack the understanding of the thread you opened? 3 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by paulGrundy(m): 1:34pm On Jul 17, 2021 |
haddeylium: "So, does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET" These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? ... This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian witnesses. ... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a "prophet" of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. Thus this group of anointed followers of Jesus Christ, doing a work in Christendom paralleling Ezekiel's work among the Jews, were manifestly the modern-day Ezekiel, the "prophet" commissioned by Jehovah to declare the good news of God's Messianic kingdom and to give warning to Christendom." Watchtower 1972 Apr 1 pp.197-199 'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them' ![]() only a foolish man will close his eyes to daylight and say there is no sun 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by achorladey: 7:47pm On Jul 17, 2021 |
paulGrundy: This their use of Modern day EZEKIEL na serious laughing matter and yet one of them was using scare quote palaver to colour the matter. Since they are modern day Ezekiel, it will be in order to ask them what and who was the ancient day Ezekiel known to be? They will rather look elsewhere than answer the questions. Picking what suit their agenda and shutting others out of sight is their mode of operation. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by haddeylium(m): 8:14am On Jul 18, 2021 |
eomajeh: Good! You grabbed my point! I'll not call Jehovah's witnesses are prophet also because They never claim that they bring their surmises 'In the name of Jehovah' They never claimed that they are inspired or their articles and surmises are inspired. They're are just giving out their understanding of their study in the Bible. They are acknowledge that they're infallible and their surmises might be wrong also. Now, you understand? Have a great day |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by haddeylium(m): 8:20am On Jul 18, 2021 |
paulGrundy: Another day answering basically the same question! I've answered this misconception already. You should that these articles are for JWs. Truly, I don't expect you to have the same understanding as we do with your knowledge. As simple as it is, We Jehovah's Witnesses are not PROPHET!. We believe the gift of prophesy ends with apostles. If you read the first and second OP post slowly we won't be having this conversation. Thank you |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by haddeylium(m): 8:24am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Emusan: Remember I said I'm not here to debate your personal opinion and view. You're entitled to it. If you want to know Jehovah's witnesses view on this. You should ask questions in a civilised way. Else, I'll pass |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by haddeylium(m): 8:40am On Jul 18, 2021 |
thorpido: Yes! It ends in the era apostles after it had accomplished it purpose. Jesus provided the key for identifying true Christians when he declared: “Every good tree produces fine fruit.” (Matt. 7:17) What fruits would true Christains produce to show they're producing the fine fruits? Consider one; "By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves,” said Jesus. (John 13:35) True Christians have genuine love for one another. They are not divided by racial, national or social prejudices. Even in times of war, they refuse to slaughter fellow believers in other lands. Can you same the same with general or people that claims to have that gift today? You might want to visit JW.org with your copy of the bible |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:45am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Shuo! ![]() Na so the thing pain you reach? ![]() Well you made a little mistake regarding the bolded in red, you should have said "foolish people" not just a man or woman because more than 30,000,000 people from different races throughout the earth subscribe to the teachings of this group while over 9,000,000 have vowed to live their lives in harmony with whatever this group agree upon of which i am outstanding one of them! 2Corinthians 11:23 So they are in millions and please don't forget to count me along with them! ![]() paulGrundy: |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by paulGrundy(m): 8:51am On Jul 18, 2021 |
haddeylium: But your watchtower is saying that Jehovah's witnesses is a prophet and the issue I quoted emphatically stated that one of the duties of the prophet is to declare things to come. Whom should I believe? You or the watchtower? Now re-read with emphasis on the highlighted. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58am On Jul 18, 2021 |
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Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by achorladey: 10:53am On Jul 18, 2021 |
haddeylium: You should that these articles are for JWs. Pele ti e. 1972 1908 abi which one you cite in the first instance were meant to be consumed by the public as well. You will rather tell us that the white background on nairaland whenever we type our comments is black and we should just believe that it is black despite the evidence before our eyes that it is not black. 1 Like
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Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by achorladey: 10:56am On Jul 18, 2021 |
paulGrundy: The problem here is they are finding it difficult to acknowledge the CONTRADICTION at play. The same magazine that says they are not prophets equally states they are prophets. It is easy for them to accuse others of teachings that are contradictory but when it is their case you see them suppressing evidence (e.g scare quotes ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by paulGrundy(m): 12:23pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
achorladey: The person am chatting with is still in kindergarten school in their watchtower society of indoctrination 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by thorpido(m): 12:37pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
haddeylium:Ephesians 4:11-12 says,'and he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: The Bible says He gave these gifts to the body of Christ.... that the Church may be built up NIV You didn't see that in your Bible?Only love ? ![]() Cc: MaxinDHouse 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by paltielx: 12:53pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
The Jw reads the Bible and it's prophecies, analyze it and the share it with Others |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:30pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
thorpido: Apostle Paul is referring to the GIFTS we should expect in individuals that makes up the congragation so that orderliness and peace will take place among us. Of course these GIFTS in men we have today among us, the only difference is they're not handling their assignments in supernatural ways so we appreciate each one of them in our midst and that's why we don't doubt that God is with us! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:32pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Just like me too! Matthew 11:25 ![]() paulGrundy: |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by Emusan(m): 1:35pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Typical JWs! I'm not surprised at all. haddeylium: Of course I know, but you should have open that your opinion in your hall because here we tell it to your face all your lies. If you want to know Jehovah's witnesses view on this. You should ask questions in a civilised way. Else, I'll pass You can show the part that is not civilized in my questions. I'm still waiting for the answers to my questions anyway. |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:40pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Emusan:The last time you LIED against me and promised to bring the evidence but i can sense that's why you've been running away from my posts now ever since then because you're ashamed of yourself! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by thorpido(m): 1:48pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:So you agree there are apostles,prophets,evangelists,pastors and teachers even till this day? |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by paulGrundy(m): 2:01pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You, all these ones you are doing will not stop me from exposing falsehoods in watchtower literature. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:14pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
thorpido:Of course! But in our midst they don't add their spiritual responsibility to their names in the public {Matthew 23:8} so only within that we know the GIFT in each of them! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by Emusan(m): 2:15pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Running away from your post what a comic part! I still maintain my word, you once promoted a pyramid scheme on this platform with your deleted moniker(and I'm very sure it's one of the reasons you deleted that moniker)... You can hang yourself if you like! When you're done, answer my questions, if not park well for a another person to take the challenge. |
Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:15pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
More grease to your elbow Sir! ![]() paulGrundy: |
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