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Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by HigherEd: 11:12am On Jul 20, 2021 |
WHEN A YOUNG PASTOR REFUSES TO BEAR FRUIT AND FAILS AT GOD’S BUSINESS https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2484752211668635&id=444807728996437 125 Likes 21 Shares
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Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by HigherEd: 11:19am On Jul 20, 2021 |
First, I would commend the living faith church for the great work in investing churches across rural communities and employing paid 16,000 Pastors to lead those churches. That said, this controversy allowed me to understand that a vast majority of us Nigerians behave like locust (apologies to anyone offended). Eat, eat, eat is all they know. Contribution and multiplication is not their concern. Let's just exploit what is available, divide it, eat it and wait for the next supply. This is why as a people we actually produce so little but consume so very much. We are a nation of exploiters... I have learnt personal lessons from this writeup and I would be sure to make personal amends in my own life. Just about condemning those pastors that are running from duty, and the holy spirit reminded me of something that was placed in my hand which failed but I have not given account neither have I replaced it to the person. The person never asked probably cause of our close relationship, and he's rich but that doesn't absolves me of my responsibility to integrity. 1) Never accept to do anything you have no passion for simply because of economic benefits whether fringe or large. 2) Whatever has been committed to your hands by those who invested in you must be nurtured to grow with all your effort. 3) If what has been committed to your hand fails for any reason, have the honor to return it at least the way you met it. Be truthful to your investor. Don't wait till you are fired or cursed out. As a people we must learn to RESIGN when we see glaringly that we are unqualified or unable to carry certain responsibilities. 404 Likes 34 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by kingxsamz(m): 11:56am On Jul 20, 2021 |
All these one na lame excuses nobody is ready to read. Christians will say "where two or three are gathered, the lord is there" but na still their pastors dey vex say people no plenty for church, even though there are at least 3 churches in every street. There are more Christians in this country and they're still looking for more. They say they want to win souls, but the souls they want to win have already been won by another church. So basically, what they're doing is trying to win members from other churches. And more members guarantees massive weekly income. Na who do advert pass they usually sell, that's why their daddy GO is angry and sacking pastors anyhow because the pastors no get sweet mouth to cajole people to come and buy the market they're selling. Anybody that says this isn't about tithe and offering is just lying to himself, so ya'll keep crying. 217 Likes 16 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by CodeTemplar: 11:58am On Jul 20, 2021 |
If chanced these people will turn the church into another Nigeria. They want to take their pay and be absent from duty. Why not go into business full-time instead of using the church some kind of insurance policy? 43 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by remsonik(f): 12:07pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
This is a nice thing. I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail. If you know you can't pastor a church don't take the job cos it's a call and you have to be really dedicated to it. It's not something you can do as side hustle or for play. 63 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by CodeTemplar: 12:24pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
kingxsamz:The aim of church expansion isnt for two or three to be gathered. All men are suppose to know God. 154 Likes 12 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Timekeeper: 12:28pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Hmmm |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by paxonel(m): 12:46pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
If that is the basis for the sack then it is justified. You can't abandon your primary duty to pursue something else and at the same time expect growth. 111 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:54pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
It's a shame but not a surprise that a senior pastor of winner's chapel doesn't know what it mean to bear fruits in the Kingdom sense of the phrase, how much more those who they lead? Even John the baptist of the Law and the prophets knew what it meant to bear fruits. He said to the Pharisees: Luke 3:8-9 (KJV) Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. So the fruits in question are the good fruits (proof) of true repentance, in other words, evidence to show that one has truly repented, hence it's if one doesn't have such evidence or the good fruits (proof) of true repentance that the axe would be laid to the root of that tree to bring it down and it would be cast into the fire, which is an illustration of eternal damnation. But what are these good fruits one needs to bear so as not to suffer such a fate? Luke 3:10-14 (KJV) And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then? He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise. Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do? And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you. And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages. So according to John the Baptist, it has to do with the works of righteousness and obedience of God's Word. This aligned with Christ's parable of the sower where the seed which is the Word of God is sown into people's heart, and it's when they keep the Word that they are said to have borne fruits. Luke 8:11 (KJV) Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. Luke 8:15 (KJV) But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. So as you can see, bearing fruits had nothing to do with growth of church membership but the spiritual growth of an individual, which is evidenced by the works of righteousness and obedience of God's Word. Hence one can still be having strong church membership growth and yet not be bearing fruits according to what it actually means to bear fruits, because the person is a worker of iniquity and not keeping God's Word. That's how the axe was yet laid to the roots of the trees of those many anointed ministers and Christians who worked of iniquity Jesus spoke about, despite that their church membership would have grown tremendously because of the signs and wonders that followed them, because to bear fruits means keep the Word of God and that they didn't do. God bless. 56 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by kingxsamz(m): 12:57pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
CodeTemplar: All men? That's laughable because I can walk 10 minutes in Lagos and count 30 churches. So who are the people your pastor is buiding 10 thousand churches for? The Christian doctrine says "everyone must spread the gospel", no matter the circumstances. So why aren't you guys going to Afghanistan, Pakistan Iraq, South Korea and Iran in numbers, trying to "win souls"? Abi those ones don't deserve to 'know God'? Anyways, it still doesn't change the fact that church is a business. 62 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by HigherEd: 1:28pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
kingxsamz:To answer you, the living faith church is in 71 nations of the earth. Many of them poor countries, e.g living faith has strong presence in Congo. Also, not all nations are open to a ministry. The living faith once closed her branches in Japan. Once they realized the error of being in Japan without a divine mandate, they closed the church and advised members there to find another church to attend. 23 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by kingxsamz(m): 1:37pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
HigherEd: Wow, so not "all men will hear the gospel"? What happened to "the violent taketh it by force"? Why are they closing the churches, why didn't they use prayers to win them over? Like how Moses was able to free the people of Israelites? Besides, I mentioned Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Will the Chidren in those countries now go to hell because their government didn't want the gospel preached to them? Haba! 41 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by THEWRITERSMIND: 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
It's all about the Benjamins, even Jehovah's witness people don double their hustle, they now collect money from members via https://donate.jw.org/ Las las all man go open church 10 Likes |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Elzakzaky: 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by IKillasticl: 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Ok |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Mumusaphire: 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
No need to explain. |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Lordofalmajiri(f): 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Branch manager trying to defend the CEO, just pray make e no reach your side. 29 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by udemzyudex(m): 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
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Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by techwaya: 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Nigerian churches na business as usual already we know no Loud am Meanwhile are you serious about gaining admissions into yabatech this year?well get working visit https://techwaya.com/yabatech-post-utme-form/ we have everything you want.. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Nobody: 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
the pastor sef look unserious to me too, it's good he was released of his duty.. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Rebuke: 2:59pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Food is ready again for the church and pastor haters to come and eat. They will never be satisfied no matter the explanation given simply because they hate to hear anything good about the church. No one should even bother trying to explain anything again to these lost and irredeemable souls. They are always looking for opportunities to bash the church and men of God. Unfortunately for them, they can't stop the church from rising, never! Even this incident will announce the church of God to the world and draw many more souls to Christ, Praise be God. One thing I know for sure, those who are in the habit of always bashing the church of God and men of God are heaping a coal of fire on their head.....repentance, I mean genuine repentance will be their only way out. Jesus is Lord forever, yhur opinion doesn't matter, deal with it, Amen 11 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
It is well!, Let God be the Judge |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Sanchez01: 2:59pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
I know how pentecostal churches function quite well. If you have issues with the church, IT WILL BE SPELT IN YOUR LETTER OF DISMISSAL but nowhere in that letter did the church state that the pastors left their primary places of assignments. Plus, full time pastors rely solely on the monthly earning from the church. IF THE PASTORS WERE ASSIGNED THEN IT MEANS THEY WERE ON THE CHURCH'S PAYROLL. The letter below took them up on GROWTH INDEX and not negligence. I have seen these things up close TOO MANY TIMES. Yes, pastors have KPIs, as surprising as it is and it is what is used in determining their performance. Interestingly, RETURNS is the summary of their KPIs. A sign your church is doing well is the number of MONTHLY RETURNS and sign that it is not is the LOW RETURNS. I have seen pastors queried, redeployed and even demoted FOR NOT GROWING THEIR CHURCH. All these explanations are just excuses on behalf of the modus operandi of Pentecostalism in Nigeria. The model is American and it is a disgusting one. 43 Likes 5 Shares
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Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by WibusJaga: 3:00pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Based on that letter, growth index mainly refers to increase in membership and/or tithes&offerings. To sack a Pastor because of this is wrong, rather he should be redeployed. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by AmazingELixir: 3:00pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by tutudesz: 3:00pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Church in Nigeria na scam!!........ Beware everyone is fighting for their Belle 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by chieveboy(m): 3:00pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
People defending the sacking of the pastors keep taking us for granted here. The pastor in that video was told "this commission does not run at a loss ...." and how his revenue should cater for his expenditure, but you guys keep dwelling in the highly euphemized and diplomatized letter as if we are incapable of reasoning For Pete's sake the pastor was in the video with the actual unadulterated Letter he got which shows he wasn't out to make things up. He sought interpretation of the letter and he was told in plain language which counters any nonsensical damage control out here. Are you people seriously thinking the church will mention " Income under-performance" in the letter as the reason? We who will not be fooled know "Growth Index" as used in the letter translated to low revenue raised by the sacked pastors. They just decided to say it diplomatically. If the church likes, they should dismiss all pastors and employ bank managers instead, we do not care. We however will not see red while you guys keep trying so hard to make us see white. 28 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by TimeTraveller: 3:01pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Churches need to dey explain themselves to the public sometimes o! I know say scam full Nigerian churches, but that wan no mean say everybody must get opinion. When GTB or Dangote sack people dem dey explain to una? Na so una dey also chook mouth for church finance. Nobody ask you to pay offering or tithe, keep ya miserable money. 8 Likes |
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