ekt_bear:

The price I quoted might be a bit high. . . I actually don't remember ever seeing a very specific #. Perhaps you can Google and find something more specific.

BTW, are you sure that that is expensive? It isn't rail in the bush, it is in a major urban area. So it makes sense that costs will be higher.

EDIT: Prices here: http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/lagosrailmasstransit/. 1.4 billion for red, 1.2 billion for blue. I wish I had #s officially from the Lagos gov't though

ekt_bear:

What were the #s? Can you share them for similar urban rail projects? I guess the metro in DC is comparable, for one. Just so we can get a ballpark # of what things should look like. I guess you'd have to include the year too so we can adjust for inflation.

Eko Ile:


Stop the double tall and needless rant, You commend him for doing what he's doing, but knocking him for doing the wrong thing. We both know you don't give a damn about this project somehow.

Your made the same deceptive statement in your first post in this thread, you claimed the trains are bad and they are coursing a lot of problems in Toronto, but you refused to back it up with any info to that effect, I asked you to enlighten us with facts and another poster asked you to do 'same, but you refused and ignore the requests. Keep quite if you can not back up you claims facts.


We are all hear to learn, but how do we do that if all we're peddling is fake and made up gists and unsubstantiated claims.

Agreed, you are too refined and rich to ride in those trains, but feel free to write a check on behalf of the people of Lagos state to the state of Lagos for nice, new and more comfortable rail cars. Trust me , the people of Lagos state go really appreciate your noble gesture.


Lagos state with 18 million people and measly 2 billion budget is not on the same financial and borrowing  level with the city of Toronto, a city founded in 1834, a fully developed city of just 2 million people with over 9 billion dollars budget. Cut your coat according to your size. Who knows, maybe we'll be riding in spanking new TR's in not time, the fact that we are starting low doesn't mean we are going to remain stagnant, we moved from nothing to this stage right?

look at those boot on BRF's feet

Fhemmmy:

You mean cos i said he has done well for even thinking outside of the box means i cant see where he could improve on the initiative and make even work better?
BTW . . .  i will not mind to board the train when i visit Lagos . . .  like i said, what he is doing is great cos it will help reduce traffic on the road and give people other affordable options of moving the people and the service around the city of Lagos.
But, will love to see him just order for some brand new ones . . . . . .

Dis Guy:

have you guys considered the cost of the dedicated power plants with your calculations, perhaps that's why they appear expensive



those are safety boots, steel toe caps-mandatory for manufacturing plant

Eko Ile:


We all know what the state is doing, to say you commend him for what his doing and the same time express regrets for what his doing sounds like double talk especially after throwing some fact less assertions in the mix just to spite the project,

The fact is, a lot of us are very petty, irrational and unrealistic. I do understand the ibo folks and their obvious re'tarded nonsense and bad bele rubbish because of lack of anything and everything in their village, but I expect more from intelligent, sensible and realistic people

We want all the good stuff without looking inside the state's pocket or even considering what these guy have been able to with so little in less than 4 years, we have ongoing capital projects from freeways to bridges, power plants, water works jetties, schools, hospitals and clinics, drivers institutes, transformer manufacturing plants, 15 water works, skills acquisition centers, a clean and better environment, parks, we have Lag Bus, we have BRT and many more, again, all in less than 4 years and on top of all that, they have to keep maintaining these infrastructures with money, pay the civil service from teachers, to the paying the largest medical staff including doctors in Nigeria, the most effective and best equipped police command in Nigeria, pay pensions, pay vendors and utilities and administer 18 million people for for just 2 billion dollars ,

Obviously, these guys have great vision and they are going at it with everything they have and I'm not ready to knock them for working within their financial confines and realities. I'm just glad they didn't kick this project down the road because of lack of funds or too many projects on the table. Today, we've moved from A - k and I'm sure we'll get to Z with better and facilities, it's just a matter of time and if some are so bothered, pull out your check book and cut the state a check for fancy trains, basically put your money where your mouth is,



Our best days are ahead of us, not behind us.

Good one Fashola, but i want competition, i want other govrs to put you on your feets, you shouldn't be the only one performing, it won't HELP Nigeria as a whole (Do Nigerians even need help?)

juliebest:

Don't worry honeric01, [size=18pt]hopefully[/size] the incoming Imo governor will be a match for him, if not out perform him.

Fhemmmy:

Lol . . . . .  .
I do see where you are coming from . . . .  I am a fan of Fashola but refused not to point out something when i think could be improved.
Cost of maintenance of those trains is what i am worried about.
But wish him the best

juliebest:

Don't worry honeric01, hopefully the incoming Imo governor will be a match for him, if not out perform him.

shady26:

All dis southwesterners not letn us hear word abt thier lagos and thier fash.d way they msure things 4rm thier simpl heads al gud developmnts in lag belongs 2 thm 4gettn the fact that lagos ws developed usin federal budget when it was stil d FCT(our collective sweats).also my question to all u omo-niile and alayes' making noise abt taxpayers money are.(1)who does the most commerce in lagos(2)who owns the majority of the houses in the highbrow areas of lagos.ans-ibos nd they pay d most tax in lagos.

hercules07:

@manny

Lagos state pays compensation wella, the road and track are passing through commercial centers that have high real estate costs, I believe there is a dedicated power plant as well, is the cost of the road infrastructure part of the 1.2billion dollars?
Fashola is probaly 40 - 50% efficient because of the corruption in the country, the FG (una Jona) was going to spend $500M on a runway in Abuja or PH, the Lagos Ibadan expressway concession is about 2 to 3 times that of Lekki per kilometer (the guy nefa do anything on that road).

shady26:

While commending fashola for the good works he is doing,criticism would only help him perform better xpecially.lagos state is not d only state working,enugu state sullivan chime is also doing fyn,adams oshomole of edo state too.fasholas' is just mor pronounced cos lagos seems to be the commercial nerve of nigeria with d most internally generated revenue  in d country and agin i repeat rmove d ibos doing biz 4rm eko and it'll just b another ekiti or ondo state.4me donald duke is d man anyday.

ugostefano:

i hope fashola dont bring to lagos this old/crappy trains/cabin from TTC(toronto). i hate this trains and also ttc has been under fire for there average services. TTC sucks n everybody here(toronto) hates them cos of there services. please go to uk and adopt thier style of subway system, as of TTC it sucks and they have not been able to convince us that they can meet the needs of people here in toronto talkless of been a model for another city. also these trains sucks they are not even that fast and they are dirthy. i cant remenber the last time i went on it.

lastpage:

Looking back, l noticed that "Eko-Ile" has made it "HIS JOB" to insult anyone who dares state a "different opinioor n" disagree with his own opinion about the Rail Project!

Even if you are going to or derive your livelihood from the "Toronto Project", you dont need to display your "level/kind of upbringing", so PUBLICLY!

This kind of rabid "dysentery of the mouth" is uncalled for, in a public discuss!

Na waah oh!

We disagree to agree naah!