ddippset:
lol. you mean physicality with sense?

raumdeuter:


[s]So he is the only defensive player in the team? Since he left injured how many defensive players have won the team of the month? Or Mourinho defensive minded is only for Bailey but not for Rojo Jones Smalling Shaw or Blind[/s]

raumdeuter:

Maybe Man Utd wasnt paying atention to CL that was what made them crash out last season too and Spurs too wasnt attaching importnace to CL
Everton Man Utd and Liverpool were playing their first team in Europa yet dem dey lie say they didnt attach importance to it

ddippset:
quite correct. Stoke city is always their SI unit when discussing the EPL. I pray Stoke city plays barca someday. but then how could that be possible? even if barca decides to lose matches and end up 6th to in order to play Stoke in the Europa league , they still wouldn't find them there.

airmark:


Valencia won motm , kelechi , man city academy product disgraced bailly, ajayi later killed him. He is a shakabula player. He will develop to become great as epl will toughen him.



The last two times man utd met valencia, they screwed them . Man city hammered sevilla home and away last season. Villareal was flogged out of ucl by arsenal last time. Take away real, barca, atm, what we have are championship sides in laliga.

airmark:


Partly true they have great players in same team while other teams paraded malnourished players. Also they looked much better as they saw large quantity of mumu players that are in majority of other teams. Tackles were flying on them in epl but in la liga, defenders are less-aggressive. Ronaldo was just chewing gums banging in goals with ease smiling.

raumdeuter:


Because airmark is retardded

bykebyke:


Neymar-Suarez-Messi

Gomes-Busquets-Rakitic

Digne-Mascherano-Pique-Sergi Roberto.

bykebyke:
Messi masterclass incoming.

ddippset:
in life nothing is finite. it doesn't mean there's no physicality at all in Spain or there's no technicality at all in England. am sure you know what I mean .

TRendlona:



Technical physicality

raumdeuter:


Yes o But when Barca was sitting in 5th they still claimed Barca was part of why La Liga is a 2horse race

airmark:


Yes, not every team attaches importance to europa league like sevilla and other laliga moribund teams. If i am a player of man utd, having tasted ucl nights before, i will devour two bottles of beer before those europa matches.

Chelseafan1:



Man Utd will still get back to their feet, they have the players and Mou is still a top coach, forget the banters and all, Liverpool is looking rejuvenated, so, we can't conclude the EPL is a 2 horse race.

Arsenal is just always there to mark attendance and make the top 4, maybe that might change soon, maybe.

Just like I submitted earlier,

First Tier right now has Liverpool, MAN city and Chelsea, (a spot is reserved for Manutd till they start getting it right) thats 4 strong teams


2nd Tier has Arsenal, Spurs, I can't think of any other team that comes close.

These are teams that have quality future star players in abundance, some of the players Madrid, Barca might eventually poach away in the nearest future.


Ddippset, I am still expecting your thoughts on what I posted to you.

philfearon:
Why do Spain do so well in Europe?
Because they have great oppositions at home who actually play football.
When you play against teams like Athletico Madrid, FCBarcelona, Real Madrid, Sevilla, Valencia, Athletic Bilbao, Villareal;
And play against such great World Best players like Yours truly, Lionel Messi, Ronaldo, Iniesta, Pique, Ramos, Neymar, GriezMann,Bale, Koke,Arda Turan, Godin, certified more than platinum home and away, you tend to be at your best always.

Why are EPL teams failing in Europe?
No good opposition at home. When a league uses low-lifers like Stoke City as reference point of how tough a team is, and uses the likes of Underachievers like Arsenal to point to how to play good football, then you know something is amiss and it's deteriorating rapidly and faster than a Canon ball.
You can imagine someone opening his gut and spitting trash that there is a reason Messi has not scored against Chelsea. Apparently, Chelsea is the ultimate EPL team every other EPL club should look up to. Hurrah! And you still wonder why EPL is not doing so good aside home soil!

raumdeuter:


Thats the truth. EPL teams are all equal in mediocrity thats why they look competitive. Its like 20 lepers running a race among themselves.

Balon dor for the past 5 seasons has looked like a La liga roll call

Lana1:
Messi just keeps saving dis uselezz team

Lana1:
Messi just keeps saving dis uselezz team

ddippset:
lol. you mean physicality with sense?

philfearon:
And Braindead.

philfearon:

[s]Guy, I know you are braindead, but stop screaming it in our face.
If a football league commits too much foul, it simply means they have their priorities misplaced, thinking they are playing rugby or American football.
Football is called the Beautiful game, not the Aggressive game .[/s]

sebod:

If Liverpool could be counted as part of tittle challengers because they look rejuvenated, then we have to also count Sevilla who pummelled same Liverpool last season as a title challenger too. No?

You don't expect me to take your tier 2 as part of serious contenders, that leaves me to only your tier 1 to access. Your tier one has City, Chelsea and Liverpool. and, according to your logic in your question 'when last did Spur win Epl' Liverpool should be struck out of the list because we can't even remember when last they won the league. That leaves me with only Chelsea and City.

I put it to you again based on your logic bro, can we regard the Epl as a two horse race? Bearing in mind you personally deleted Spurs from the list, you have also admitted Arsenal are only pretenders.