KingOKON:
[s]For you good don't repeat this nonsense outside of this forum[/s]

You should do better than this

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The king of Lagos has spoken:

Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

I see your tears finally rolling.

LMAO!

KingOKON:
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You are talking to a specialist when it comes to history concoctions, he/she can manufacture fables from nowhere and back it up with very useless facts and jargons research

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

You really know her. Unfortunately it's only gullible yoruba people she can now fool.

The Oba of Lagos said in an interview that they have a palace song that says their father came from Benin, they have to sing this song at the installation of any Oba of Lagos and even chief at installation have to salute and pay homage to the Oba of Benin. Countless Lagos princes, princess and chiefs have at different times come out to reaffirmed their Benin ancestry, yet this fairytale teller is still spinning around saying Benin does not own Lagos.

Lagos of today belongs to the descendants of Benin who inherited it from their Benin ancestors. They are the only ones officially recognised as indigines, her Aworis are still fighting for recognition.

What keeps her going is the gullibility of some of her yoruba people, some of whom operate as if they are brain dead. You hardly see any other tribes outside of her yoruba tribe take her seriously nowadays, most sensible people now know her as fraud and wouldn't believe anything she writes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

Prince Kazeem Eletu-Odibo in his glamourous royal attire
WHY I WENT BACK TO BENIN TO RECLAIM OUR ORIGIN

“So, when I wanted to marry my wife from Ishan, Benin in Edo State, before that time I have read from history that Eletu Odibo family comes from Benin in Edo State. So, I called one of the secretaries at the palace. I told him the history and everything. We now wrote a letter to the palace, my friend took it there (Benin Palace) and they asked me to come after they have read the letter.
When I was going to Ishan, I stopped at the Palace where I was told the history, that we are truly from Benin. They prayed for me. We then later went to Ishan, where we had the introduction.
When the old Oba of Benin left to join his ancestors some months ago, we wrote another letter to pay a condolence visit to the new crowned Prince, they accepted us with open arms. We went their (Palace) to greet him and from there, they fixed the date for coronation. They sent me an invitation for the coronation. Since I have been going to Benin they have not told me where my family house is but when I went this time, my friend, Osama now called Esama of Benin which is Chief Igbinedion. Osama introduced me to Esama of Benin, he said one of his friends from Lagos, Prince Kazeem Eletu-Odibo has been coming to Benin but he does not know where is family house is and he also wants to pay a royalty to you as the Esama of Benin. We went there on Wednesday 19th October, 2016 to Esama Palace. He was expecting Sultan of Sokoto, Emir of Kano and Ooni of Ife but we were there before they arrived. So, he had enough time to welcome us.
We offered him some kolanuts we brought from Lagos. When I told Esama of Benin that our family name is Eletu Odibo, that since we left nobody has come back to know where our Palace is and he (Esama of Benin) laughed at me! He said your family left and forgot everything, that the way you do your tradition in Lagos is different from here. Esama now confirmed to me that our family house is at Ibiwe road, in Benin, that the Oba of Benin, that has just been crowned has to pass through the road (Ibiwe) before going to the palace. He also told me that, our family is very important and popular in Benin Kingdom, that Eletu Odibo is not a small name in Benin Kingdom”.

Prince Kazeem Eletu-Odibo, when offering kola nut to the Esama of Benin, Chief Igbinedion.
HOW DID THEY RECEIVE YOU IN BENIN

Although, I have not met with the new Oba of Benin, I have to book an appointment to see him and that is going to be very soon.
During the coronation, they called my name twice, that “we use this opportunity to introduce the prominent person representing Eletu Odibo in the person of Prince Kazeem Gbadamosi Eletu Odibo."
A lot of people were there, Sultan of Sokoto, Emir of Kano, Ooni of Ife, Aliko Dangote, Vice President, Yemi Oshibanjo were there and all the eminent people around the world.
I was also introduced to the next crown King of Benin through Osama.
I really, really enjoyed my stay in Benin. I have told some of the Chiefs who came to my hotel room to bless me that, I would come back to Benin that they should help me to locate my family house there. I have told them, if I can find the family house that I want to renovate it and I also want to build my personal house, so that I can be coming to Benin from time to time.
I pray to God for His wisdom, so that I can do what I have in mind. May our ancestors guide me. All I want to achieve is to bring back that name where it used to be and also back to Benin”.

TAO11:
You should do better than this

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The king of Lagos has spoken:

Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

I see your tears finally rolling.

LMAO!

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A king chased out of his palace by his subjects is telling the daughter of a former king her heritage?
You have started smoking that thing again abi

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

samuk:
[s]You really know her. Unfortunately it's only gullible yoruba people she can now fool.

The Oba of Lagos said in an interview that they have a palace song that says their father came from Benin, they have to sing this song at the installation of any Oba of Lagos and even chief at installation have to salute and pay homage to the Oba of Benin. Countless Lagos princes, princess and chiefs have at different times come out to reaffirmed their Benin ancestry, yet this fairytale teller is still spinning around saying Benin does not own Lagos.

Lagos of today belongs to the descendants of Benin who inherited it from their Benin ancestors. They are the only ones officially recognised as indigines, her Aworis are still fighting for recognition.

What keeps her going is the gullibility of some of her yoruba people, some of whom operate as if they are brain dead. You hardly see any other tribes outside of her yoruba tribe take her seriously nowadays, most sensible people now know her as fraud and wouldn't believe anything she writes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o[/s]

Fraudulent child of Benin.

(1)You had to 1st download the original video from the YouTube page of Channels TV.

(2) You then cut out where the King said Benin has no place in the ownership of Lagos (among other parts).

(3) You then uploaded your edited video to your own personal YouTube account.

(4) And you finally posted the link of your edit here to deceive your fellow (of course gullible) Bini brothers.
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Guess what!? I will post the original full video here as I do below. Here you go:

[Click the link, or click “Watch on YouTube”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno&t=303s

At timestamp 5:45, he debunked you all. Benin has no place in the ownership of Lagos. Gbam!
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Moreover, you tried to twist the traditional song which I actually translated for you in the first place. Ironic

The song actually doesn’t say that Benin is the land of Ado’s roots & origins as you pray it should say.

Instead, the song literally says:
“…our father’s [Ado’s] birth took place within Benin, & his father is a king not an expat-cum-commoner…”

Guess what!? We know this. His mother is Bini. He was born and raised in Benin until he was called from Eko to succeed his father.
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I don’t get your point about the salute gesture at all.

You’ve probably been reading with a blindfold to have missed where the old account shows that Ashipa did initiate a political tie with the then Benin king thereby making him the protege and the Bini king his patron.

Moreover, it is also documented in history that Benin courtiers are supposed to ensure that Aṣipa does not forget Benin interest. Why worry if he Aṣipa is Bini?

As such, the descendants of these courtiers (who are not members of the Eko royal family) have also been incorporated into the Yoruba Lagos today — although they’re in the minority.
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Lastly, he was asked to tell us about the connection of the Ekos & the Binis ~ timestamp 4:54:

He replied that the connection was between the first crowned-king of Eko and a certain Benin king.

He specifically used the phrase “male descendant” and this means that this first crowned-king (Ado) is a male child whose descent is traceable to that Benin king.

He, however, did not give any clarifying details as per which of Ado’s two parents link him (Ado) to that Bini king — Ado’s mom or Ado’s dad, he was silent on that.

The old accounts, however, noted this with clarity by saying that Ado’s mother is the Bini; and his dad is the Yoruba from Isheri in Lagos.

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In all, Ado’s father is Ashipa. Ashipa is an Awori noble from Isheri (along the Ogun River) in Lagos.

Ado’s mother is the Bini. She is of the Benin royalty & gave birth to him there in Benin city — until when he
was called upon from Eko to succeed his father.

The prominent & foremost indigenes of Lagos are the autochthonous people — the Yoruba, Aworis precisely

Cheers.

samuk:
[s]Prince Kazeem Eletu-Odibo in his glamourous royal attire
WHY I WENT BACK TO BENIN TO RECLAIM OUR ORIGIN

“So, when I wanted to marry my wife from Ishan, Benin in Edo State, before that time I have read from history that Eletu Odibo family comes from Benin in Edo State. So, I called one of the secretaries at the palace. I told him the history and everything. We now wrote a letter to the palace, my friend took it there (Benin Palace) and they asked me to come after they have read the letter.
When I was going to Ishan, I stopped at the Palace where I was told the history, that we are truly from Benin. They prayed for me. We then later went to Ishan, where we had the introduction.
When the old Oba of Benin left to join his ancestors some months ago, we wrote another letter to pay a condolence visit to the new crowned Prince, they accepted us with open arms. We went their (Palace) to greet him and from there, they fixed the date for coronation. They sent me an invitation for the coronation. Since I have been going to Benin they have not told me where my family house is but when I went this time, my friend, Osama now called Esama of Benin which is Chief Igbinedion. Osama introduced me to Esama of Benin, he said one of his friends from Lagos, Prince Kazeem Eletu-Odibo has been coming to Benin but he does not know where is family house is and he also wants to pay a royalty to you as the Esama of Benin. We went there on Wednesday 19th October, 2016 to Esama Palace. He was expecting Sultan of Sokoto, Emir of Kano and Ooni of Ife but we were there before they arrived. So, he had enough time to welcome us.
We offered him some kolanuts we brought from Lagos. When I told Esama of Benin that our family name is Eletu Odibo, that since we left nobody has come back to know where our Palace is and he (Esama of Benin) laughed at me! He said your family left and forgot everything, that the way you do your tradition in Lagos is different from here. Esama now confirmed to me that our family house is at Ibiwe road, in Benin, that the Oba of Benin, that has just been crowned has to pass through the road (Ibiwe) before going to the palace. He also told me that, our family is very important and popular in Benin Kingdom, that Eletu Odibo is not a small name in Benin Kingdom”.

Prince Kazeem Eletu-Odibo, when offering kola nut to the Esama of Benin, Chief Igbinedion.
HOW DID THEY RECEIVE YOU IN BENIN

Although, I have not met with the new Oba of Benin, I have to book an appointment to see him and that is going to be very soon.
During the coronation, they called my name twice, that “we use this opportunity to introduce the prominent person representing Eletu Odibo in the person of Prince Kazeem Gbadamosi Eletu Odibo."
A lot of people were there, Sultan of Sokoto, Emir of Kano, Ooni of Ife, Aliko Dangote, Vice President, Yemi Oshibanjo were there and all the eminent people around the world.
I was also introduced to the next crown King of Benin through Osama.
I really, really enjoyed my stay in Benin. I have told some of the Chiefs who came to my hotel room to bless me that, I would come back to Benin that they should help me to locate my family house there. I have told them, if I can find the family house that I want to renovate it and I also want to build my personal house, so that I can be coming to Benin from time to time.
I pray to God for His wisdom, so that I can do what I have in mind. May our ancestors guide me. All I want to achieve is to bring back that name where it used to be and also back to Benin”.[/s]

(1) The Eletu-Odibo descendants are of Benin roots & origin. I have already made that clear since.

(2) However, the Eletu-Odibo family is not of the royal families of Eko. So, he is not even in a place to speak.

(3) The king himself has spoken on that: Benin has no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

(4) And to think you really went to cite a blog interview from the year 2021 as a hopeful counter to a tradition which was documented over a century ago is indeed a very effective joke. You try.

Cheers.

KingOKON:
[s]A king chased out of his palace by his subjects is…[/s]

That’s how we free-borns role.

If we are displeased with our king, we have been given such powers by our ancestors to even depose.

That’s the free-born spirit. The free-born spirit is alien to the slave-subjects of the Yoruba-King of Benin.

[s]… telling the daughter of a former king her heritage?
You have started smoking that thing again abi https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/[/s]

The king of Lagos has spoken: Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

Roll the tears baby.

TAO11:
That’s how we free-borns role.

If we are displeased with our king, we have been give such powers by our ancestors to even depose.

That’s the free-born spirit. Something the subjects (i.e. slaves of the Yoruba-King of Benin) find alien.



The king of Lagos has spoken: Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

Roll the tears baby.

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Interesting, so you also decide for each family their origin or is it the king?

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

KingOKON:
[s] Interesting, so you also decide for each family their origin or is it the king?
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/[/s]

The King is a member of the royal family. Duh.

The King is superior to other chiefs. Duh.

The king has spoken:
Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

Roll the tears baby.

kiss

TAO11:


The King is a member of the royal family. Duh.

The King is superior to other chiefs. Duh.

The king has spoken:
Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

Roll the tears baby.

kiss

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So the King that took to his heels when the boys he lords over came looking for him, decides for the llikes of the Dosumus and co their origin?

Ordinary boys he can't speak to them is it other royals he wants to speak for, what is the name of that weed you smoke?

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

christistruth01:



Samuk

The funniest thing is that in the OTA War of 1842 when the Yorubas fought for Control of the Awori Owned Lagos Coast and Mainland Lagos

the Kingdom of Benin was a Total and Complete no show

By the way the Egbas of Abeokuta won the War and along with the Ijebu were in Complete Control of Mainland Lagos Including Iddo Island until the British Arrived


How the Benin who did not even Turn up to fight the War are now Claiming to be Military Conquerors of Awori Yoruba Lagos is baffling

The only Part of Lagos that the Egba Abeokuta Army didn't take was Lagos Island Itself but the Ijebu Army who are well experienced fighters on Water had already dealt with Lagos Island much earlier and the Benin had retreated to the small enclave of Isale Eko

How Benin that never even turned up to fight the War can claim to be overlords of Lagos is astonishing

It was even the Egbas that had installed Adele Ajosun as Oba on Lagos Island in the 1830’s.

What intrigues me is how this Benin descendants of Lagos blend into the yoruba culture, yet short out other Yorubas, including the Aworis who we are told have been in Lagos for centuries.

Even the Brazilian returnee who arrived lagos in the 1830s are also short out and prevented from being officially recognised as indigines.

Out of all former Benin garrison towns, the Benin that inherited Lagos are the most successful in preserving their Benin lineage, this they do at the installations of every oba and chiefs. This is further remarkable considering the fact of yoruba tribalism, the fact that the likes of Awolowo, Obasanjo and now Tinubu have always controlled the political powers of the west, still the small group of Benin descendants in Lagos still managed to short everyone else out.

The closest to Lagos in terms of keeping the Benin lineage going is the Itsekiri monarchy, while other old Benin empire garrison towns monarchy and few chiefs may trace their lineage to Benin, they Lagos Benin royal structure is almost completely intact for 400 years and counting.

The oba of Lagos himself answered the most important questions of them all. Who is their father? And the answer was, their father is from Benin.

Anyone without ear problems should please listen again to the oba of Lagos telling the world that their fathers were from Benin.

Meanwhile TAO11 Aworis is not even officially recognised as Lagos indigines by the State government.

Whilst the likes of Erelu, Odibo, Akinsemoyin, etc are classified as indigines, TAO11 and other impostors are short out as none indigines.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

samuk:
What intrigues me is how this Benin descendants of Lagos blend into the yoruba culture, yet short out other Yorubas, including the Aworis who we are told have been in Lagos for centuries.

Even the Brazilian returnee who arrived lagos in the 1830s are also short out and prevented from being officially recognised as indigines.

Out of all former Benin garrison towns, the Benin that inherited Lagos are the most successful in preserving their Benin lineage, this they do at the installations of every oba and chiefs. This is further remarkable considering the fact of yoruba tribalism, the fact that the likes of Awolowo, Obasanjo and now Tinubu have always controlled the political powers of the west, still the small group of Benin descendants in Lagos still managed to short everyone else out.

The closest to Lagos in terms of keeping the Benin lineage going is the Itsekiri monarchy, while other old Benin empire garrison towns monarchy and few chiefs may trace their lineage to Benin, they Lagos Benin royal structure is almost completely intact for 400 years and counting.

The oba of Lagos himself answered the most important questions of them all. Who is their father? And the answer was, their father is from Benin.

Anyone without ear problems should please listen again to the oba of Lagos telling the world that their fathers were from Benin.

Meanwhile TAO11 Aworis is not even officially recognised as Lagos indigines by the State government.

Whilst the likes of Erelu, Odibo, Akinsemoyin, etc are classified as indigines, TAO11 and other impostors are short out as none indigines.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

I agree with your that the Awori Yoruba owners of Lagos are Peaceful and Hospitable to a fault

But that doesn’t stop them from being the owners of Lagos



Listen very very Carefully


For the one thousandth time oba of lagos himself telling you with his own mouth at 5.45 Minutes "benin are not the owners of lagos”






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno


the link will take you to the Video on YouTube

Christistruth00:

Instead of all these copy and paste that doesn't make sense, what should concern you most is the revelation that your mentor TAO11 Awori people are not officially recognised as indigines of Lagos by the government.

I know you already said that Aworis don't need official recognition, don't you think it amounts to them not having official home town?

All these your copy and paste does not change the reality on ground.

Why telling us all these history when TAO11 Aworis have not yet be recognised as indigines of Lagos.

samuk:


Instead of all these copy and paste that doesn't make sense, what should concern you most is the revelation that your mentor TAO11 Awori people are not officially recognised as indigines of Lagos by the government.

I know you already said that Aworis don't need official recognition, don't you think it amounts to them not having official home town?

All these your copy and paste does not change the reality on ground.

Why telling us all these history when TAO11 Aworis have not yet be recognised as indigines of Lagos.

If the Government of Lagos state had not recognised the Awori Yoruba Owners of Lagos they wouldn't have had enough Land to build even an Ordinary Pit Latrine.


Ordinary MC Oluomo who is Awori can chase you out of Lagos if you misbehave and both the Lagos State Government and the Police would pretend that nothing ever happened

They may even Compensate him for his Stress

christistruth01:



If the Government of Lagos state had not recognised the Awori Yoruba Owners of Lagos they wouldn't have had enough Land to build even an Ordinary Pit Latrine.


Ordinary MC Oluomo who is Awori can chase you out of Lagos if you misbehave and both the Lagos State Government and the Police would pretend that nothing ever happened

They may even Compensate him for his Stress

It means you didn’t understand what was said in this documentary, TAO11 still have a lot if work to do as your teacher.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyELCBM6ORQ

Samuk

All Yorubas respect the Awori in Lagos

Even the Ijebus and Egbas don't drag them.

There is even a Yoruba Proverb

" Awori Lo L'eko"

Which Translates Awori are the Owners of

Lagos

samuk:
[s]What intrigues me is how this Benin descendants of Lagos blend into the yoruba culture, yet short out other Yorubas, including the Aworis who we are told have been in Lagos for centuries.

Even the Brazilian returnee who arrived lagos in the 1830s are also short out and prevented from being officially recognised as indigines.

Out of all former Benin garrison towns, the Benin that inherited Lagos are the most successful in preserving their Benin lineage, this they do at the installations of every oba and chiefs. This is further remarkable considering the fact of yoruba tribalism, the fact that the likes of Awolowo, Obasanjo and now Tinubu have always controlled the political powers of the west, still the small group of Benin descendants in Lagos still managed to short everyone else out.

The closest to Lagos in terms of keeping the Benin lineage going is the Itsekiri monarchy, while other old Benin empire garrison towns monarchy and few chiefs may trace their lineage to Benin, they Lagos Benin royal structure is almost completely intact for 400 years and counting.

The oba of Lagos himself answered the most important questions of them all. Who is their father? And the answer was, their father is from Benin.

Anyone without ear problems should please listen again to the oba of Lagos telling the world that their fathers were from Benin.

Meanwhile TAO11 Aworis is not even officially recognised as Lagos indigines by the State government.

Whilst the likes of Erelu, Odibo, Akinsemoyin, etc are classified as indigines, TAO11 and other impostors are short out as none indigines.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o[/s]

This obese midget [aka @samuk] thinks repeating lies all over again (after it’s been debunked) will somehow transform it to truth. Don’t be deceived child. A lie is a lie regardless of how many times you type it.

You are back here to fight your inner demons again & again simply because you yourself are not convinced yet of the effectiveness of your lies earlier; hence the need for you to try again on this new page.

I may consider you for naturalization on the grounds that you do the following things:

Look carefully at the Lagos State Government coat of arms attached below and show me one symbol there which shows recognition (by the State) for Benin.

You won’t find any. You know why? You won’t find an because — like the king himself have said — Benin has no place in the ownership of Lagos.

In contrast, the only unique symbols present there are those which relate uniquely to Awori in particular, eg. the “white cap”, or the one which relates to Yorùbá in general, e.g. the “Akoko (coronation) leaves”. The State clear has no recognition for Benin whatsoever as you have seen here.

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You called Lagos a “former Benin garrison town” whil you already know that Binis, the Ijaws, the Ajas, et. al. all immigrated (around the 1500s) to one and only on island in Lagos to join in the European coastal trade.

Each having its own space on that island for decades until sometime around 1603 when the Bini group took up arms against another Bini group trading elsewhere along the same Atlantic coast. So, if that’s a garrison then its a Benin garrison against Binis.

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Regarding your video, my earlier exposition suffices as shown again below. And no the Ọba wasn’t asked “Who is your father?”

He was asked a different question. And no he didn’t say our father is from Beni in the sense that you put it fraudulently put it. See below for the full gist:
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(1)You had to 1st download the original video from the YouTube page of Channels TV.

(2) You then cut out where the King said Benin has no place in the ownership of Lagos (among other parts).

(3) You then uploaded your edited video to your own personal YouTube account.

(4) And you finally posted the link of your edit here to deceive your fellow (of course gullible) Bini brothers.
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Guess what!? I will post the original full video here as I do below. Here you go:

[Click the link, or click “Watch on YouTube”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno&t=303s

At timestamp 5:45, he debunked you all. Benin has no place in the ownership of Lagos. Gbam!
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Moreover, you tried to twist the traditional song which I actually translated for you in the first place. Ironic

The song actually doesn’t say that Benin is the land of Ado’s roots & origins as you pray it should say.

Instead, the song literally says:
“…our father’s [Ado’s] birth took place within Benin, & his father is a king not an expat-cum-commoner…”

The emphasis of the song was on his place of birth, & not on his paternal roots or origin.

Guess what!? We know this. His mother is Bini. He was born and raised in Benin until he was called from Eko to succeed his Yorùbá father.
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I don’t get your point about the salute gesture at all.

You’ve probably been reading with a blindfold to have missed where the old account shows that Ashipa did initiate a political tie with the then Benin king thereby making him the protege and the Bini king his patron.

Moreover, it is also documented in history that Benin courtiers are supposed to ensure that Aṣipa does not forget Benin interest. Why worry if Aṣipa is a Bini?

As such, the descendants of these courtiers (who are not members of the Eko royal family) have also been incorporated into the Yoruba Lagos today — although they’re in the minority.
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Lastly, he was asked to tell us about the connection of the Ekos & the Binis ~ timestamp 4:54:

He replied that the connection was between the first crowned-king of Eko and a certain Benin king.

He specifically used the phrase “male descendant” and this means that this first crowned-king (Ado) is a male child whose descent is traceable to that Benin king.

He, however, did not give any clarifying details as per which of Ado’s two parents link him (Ado) to that Bini king — Ado’s mom or Ado’s dad, he was silent on that.

The old accounts, however, noted this with clarity by saying that Ado’s mother is the Bini; and his dad is the Yoruba from Isheri in Lagos.

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In all, Ado’s father is Ashipa. Ashipa is an Awori noble from Isheri (along the Ogun River) in Lagos.

Ado’s mother is the Bini. She is of the Benin royalty & gave birth to him there in Benin city — until when he
was called upon from Eko to succeed his father.

The prominent & foremost indigenes of Lagos are the autochthonous people — the Yoruba, Aworis precisely.

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Gentle reminder:

Look carefully at the Lagos State Government coat of arms attached below and show me one symbol there which shows recognition (by the State) for Benin.

Cheers.

samuk:
[s]It means you didn’t understand what was said in this documentary, TAO11 still have a lot if work to do as your teacher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyELCBM6ORQ[/s]

Eeeerrrm … sorry.

See the comment to recall when you were disgraced by one of those whom you sought to align with.

SirNewtonNG:
Actually sorry to dissapoint you because:

1. The oba of lagos is superior to her and he has said that benins are not the owners of lagos

2. The coat of arms of lagos never shows any symbol of bini but awori people i.e the white cap, akoko leaf and the occupation of the awori (fishing)

I'm sorry to dissapoint you but the lagos state government doesn't recognize the bini people but the aworis

Cheers!

Cc: christistruth01

KingOKON:
[s]So the King that took to his heels when the boys he lords over came looking for him, decides for the llikes of the Dosumus and co their origin?

Ordinary boys he can't speak to them is it other royals he wants to speak for, what is the name of that weed you smoke?

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/[/s]

You are not a free-born so, it’s understandable if you don’t get it.

Again, free-borns have some right & power over their kings when the need arises. That’s our ancestors doing

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But regarding the ownership of Lagos, the supreme traditional authority has spoken.

The king of Lagos has spoken: Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

Roll the tears baby.

Kisses

TAO11:
You are not a free-born so, it’s understandable if you don’t get it.

Again, free-borns have some right & power over their kings when the need arises. That’s our ancestors doing

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But regarding the ownership of Lagos, the supreme traditional authority has spoken.

The king of Lagos has spoken: Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

Roll the tears baby.

Kisses

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Royal families and people of Eko after reading your Iya Basirat tales of Lagos history

KingOKON:
[s]Royal families and people of Eko after reading your Iya Basirat tales of Lagos history[/s]

Exactly my point that only free-borns get it.

So, I see why you don’t get it.

I shouldn’t have said this tho.

TAO11:
Eeeerrrm … sorry.

See the comment to recall when you were disgraced by one of those whom you sought to align with.



Cheers!

Cc: christistruth01

Align with who? So you didn’t realised that the joke was on you. I was taking the piss out of you and the guy after he referred to you as a transgender, I am not saying that there is anything wrong with the way an individual chooses to live his or her life but the guy came across like a lunatic.

Did you not see how the guy bulldozed his way into various threads insulting the Benins, I guess his data is now finished or the guy was just an empty barrel.

Now that the oba of Lagos have told the world that Lagos royalty forefathers were from Benin, what are you going to do about the lack of recognition of your people as indigines of Lagos by the Lagos state government.

Purely for the benefit of those that haven't heard the Oba of Lagos saying their forefathers were from Benin and he was a king. He says their father not mother the way TAO11 would like you guys believe. I know most of you don't have hearing problems, TAO11 can keep spinning while we are having a laugh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

samuk:
[s]Align with who? So you didn’t realised that the joke was on you. I was taking the piss out of you and the guy after he referred to you as a transgender.

You must be very daft to not see how he disgraced you and your minions.

You all proposed that I must be a man because you al think a woman shouldn’t be this wicked. Haha

[s]Did you not see how the guy bulldozed his way into various threads insulting the Benins, I guess his data is now finished or the guy was just an empty barrel.[/s]

I don’t care to know both you & him.

What I see is simply that you tried to hoodwink him to your side, and he disgraced you as appropriate.

See his comment below for a sweet gentle reminder:


https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/18#109693581


You must be very daft to not see how he disgraced you and your minions.

You all proposed that I must be a man because you al think a woman shouldn’t be this wicked.

Cheers.

samuk:
[s]•••
Now that the oba of Lagos have told the world that Lagos royalty forefathers were from Benin, what are you going to do about the lack of recognition of your people as indigines of Lagos by the Lagos state government.

Purely for the benefit of those that haven't heard the Oba of Lagos saying their forefathers were from Benin and he was a king. He says their father not mother the way TAO11 would like you guys believe. I know most of you don't have hearing problems, TAO11 can keep spinning while we are having a laugh

https://youtu.be/TvaiC_[/s]

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Regarding your video, my earlier exposition suffices as shown again below. And no the Ọba wasn’t asked “Who is your father?”

He was asked a different question. And no he didn’t say our father is from Beni in the sense that you put it fraudulently put it. See below for the full gist:
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(1)You had to 1st download the original video from the YouTube page of Channels TV.

(2) You then cut out where the King said Benin has no place in the ownership of Lagos (among other parts).

(3) You then uploaded your edited video to your own personal YouTube account.

(4) And you finally posted the link of your edit here to deceive your fellow (of course gullible) Bini brothers.
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Guess what!? I will post the original full video here as I do below. Here you go:

[Click the link, or click “Watch on YouTube”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno&t=303s

At timestamp 5:45, he debunked you all. Benin has no place in the ownership of Lagos. Gbam!
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Moreover, you tried to twist the traditional song which I actually translated for you in the first place. Ironic

The song actually doesn’t say that Benin is the land of Ado’s roots & origins as you pray it should say.

Instead, the song literally says:
“…our father’s [Ado’s] birth took place within Benin, & his father is a king not an expat-cum-commoner…”

The emphasis of the song was on his place of birth, & not on his paternal roots or origin.

Guess what!? We know this. His mother is Bini. He was born and raised in Benin until he was called from Eko to succeed his Yorùbá father.
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I don’t get your point about the salute gesture at all.

You’ve probably been reading with a blindfold to have missed where the old account shows that Ashipa did initiate a political tie with the then Benin king thereby making him the protege and the Bini king his patron.

Moreover, it is also documented in history that Benin courtiers are supposed to ensure that Aṣipa does not forget Benin interest. Why worry if Aṣipa is a Bini?

As such, the descendants of these courtiers (who are not members of the Eko royal family) have also been incorporated into the Yoruba Lagos today — although they’re in the minority.
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Lastly, he was asked to tell us about the connection of the Ekos & the Binis ~ timestamp 4:54:

He replied that the connection was between the first crowned-king of Eko and a certain Benin king.

He specifically used the phrase “male descendant” and this means that this first crowned-king (Ado) is a male child whose descent is traceable to that Benin king.

He, however, did not give any clarifying details as per which of Ado’s two parents link him (Ado) to that Bini king — Ado’s mom or Ado’s dad, he was silent on that.

The old accounts, however, noted this with clarity by saying that Ado’s mother is the Bini; and his dad is the Yoruba from Isheri in Lagos.

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In all, Ado’s father is Ashipa. Ashipa is an Awori noble from Isheri (along the Ogun River) in Lagos.

Ado’s mother is the Bini. She is of the Benin royalty & gave birth to him there in Benin city — until when he
was called upon from Eko to succeed his father.

The prominent & foremost indigenes of Lagos are the autochthonous people — the Yoruba, Aworis precisely.

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Gentle reminder:

Look carefully at the Lagos State Government coat of arms attached below and show me one symbol there which shows recognition (by the State) for Benin.

None. Only Awori is recognized in that coat of arms.



Cheers.

TAO11:

You must be very daft to not see how he disgraced you and your minions.

You all proposed that I must be a man because you al think a woman shouldn’t be this wicked. Haha

I don’t care to know both you & him.

What I see is simply that you tried to hoodwink him to his side. He disgraced you as appropriate.

See his comment below for a sweet gentle reminder:

You must be very daft to not see how he disgraced yo and your minions.

You all proposed that I must be a man because you al think a woman shouldn’t be this wicked.

Cheers.

Why would I want to hoodwinked someone that already insulted me, I only find him calling you a transgender funny. The idiot actually thought he was complimenting you, perhaps he was.

TAO11:


Instead, the song literally says:
“…our father’s [Ado’s] birth took place within Benin, & his father is a king not an expat-cum-commoner…”

Our father Ado was born in Benin to a king.

TAO11, how many king do you currently have in present day Benin let alone in the 1600s when Ado was born.

You can only deceive yourself and no one else.

My main concern now is how to reach out to our Benin royal relatives and rulers of Lagos to see how the Aworis whose ancestors have lived in Lagos for centuries and the Lagos Brazilians whose ancestors were returned to Lagos in the 1830s could be recognised as indigines by the Lagos state government.

samuk:
Why would I want to hoodwinked someone that already insulted me, I only find him calling you a transgender funny. The idiot actually thought he was complimenting you, perhaps he was.

Transgender is a term used out of frustration by you and your cohorts.

He now sees why you all say that — i.e., after flogging sense into your head and your cohorts’ head.

Here is the context of his comment wherein he noted that I showed no mercy while flogging you:

SirNewtonNG:
Omo, no mercy le lei o. I'm starting to believe the bini boys assertion you are transgender

Moreover, he sha disgraced you when you tried to hoodwink him to your side:

SirNewtonNG:

Actually sorry to dissapoint you because:

1. The oba of lagos is superior to her and he has said that benins are not the owners of lagos

2. The coat of arms of lagos never shows any symbol of bini but awori people i.e the white cap, akoko leaf and the occupation of the awori (fishing)

I'm sorry to dissapoint you but the lagos state government doesn't recognize the bini people but the aworis

Cheers.

TAO11:
Transgender is a term used out of frustration by you and your cohorts.

He now sees why you all say that — i.e., after flogging sense into your head and your cohorts’ head.

Here is the context of his comment wherein he noted that I showed no mercy while flogging you:

Moreover, he sha disgraced you when you tried to hoodwink him to your side:

TAO11 leave all these side distraction and let's rub minds together to see how to beg Aunty Erelu and other members of the Benin-Lagos royal family to give the Lagos state government the permission to officially recognised your people as indigines.

samuk:
[s]Our father Ado was born in Benin to a king.

TAO11, how many king do you currently have in present day Benin let alone in the 1600s when Ado was born.

You can only deceive yourself and no one else[/s]

LMAO! You fraudulent boy.

The song DIDN’t say: He was born to a King of Benin.

The song literally says: “… his father is a king …”.

Guess what!? His father is Ashipa — the progenitor of the dynasty.

[s]My main concern now is how to reach out to our Benin royal relatives and rulers of Lagos to see how the Aworis whose ancestors have lived in Lagos for centuries and the Lagos Brazilians whose ancestors were returned to Lagos in ghe 1830s could be recognised as indigines.[/s]

See consolation.

I think you should be worried about how the minority Benin descendants should get some recognition at the State level, and how they can at least have a plot of land to call their own.

Cheers.

samuk:
TAO11 leave all these side distraction and let's rub minds together to see how to beg Aunty Erelu and other members of the Benin-Lagos royal family to give the Lagos state government the permission to officially recognised your people as indigines.

You mean the same Erelu whom the Ọba of Lagos ha debunked devastatingly when the Ọba insisted that:

Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos.

And the Ọba is right because the Lagos State Govt. ha no recognition for these minority descendants of Bini

Neither can these minority Binis point to anywhere in Lagos land which they can call their own— not even a plot.

Cheers.

TAO11:


I'm sorry to dissapoint you but the lagos state government doesn't recognize the bini people but the aworis

So Aunty Erelu is now Awori, TAO11 what is happening to you tonight, you are fast loosing it.