The funny thing about this argument is that you guys decided to deliberate about 2 supposed characters (yeshua and Jesus). I'm not even interested in whether the two are same but what about other messiahs like Cyrus (Isaiah 45)

The earlier we rediscover ourselves the better.

triplechoice:
It is an issue because it has to do with indoctrination which keeps one stuck.

Maybe you don't care. But for me ,I know that following the truth, even when I cannot figure out immediately where it would lead to ,
would always end in freedom. Lies( indoctrination) keep you stuck and prevents you from evolving as a human being.

The choice is yours

You have not giving any direct answer to any of the questions asked.

The first thing you did was to refer me to an article written by a writer with an obvious bias for the subject matter and you think it would be enough.

That did not work and your latest strategy is to hide under what Jesus instructed or did not instruct.

Your latest defense, sorry to say is both childish and criminal.

It is what children and adults do to escape punishment after doing what they know they are not suppose to do.

A child pleads, "mummy please don't flog me, I did it because you didn't tell me not to"

An adult that is supposed to know better urinates openly in a public park and when confronted, he pleads ignorance and says, "oh I did not see a "do not urinate here" sign. "No one told me not to urinate here"


I dont know where and when it has ever happened , for someone in their right senses to completely abandon their original name in their own language for a translated version of the same name in another language.
And not only that ,the same person would also agree to answer to whatever translation of that same name in several languages at the same time.

Who does that?

Did Yeshua instruct you to call him with a translated version of his name?

Oh, because he has not said anything concerning the name, then you assume you're at liberty to do whatever you like.

If he were to appear in your room right now ,and ask why choose to call him Jesus instead of Yeshua, what would be your reply?

Would you insist on Jesus instead of Yeshua in that instance?

We should not throw away common sense just because we want to defend the untruth.

None is sure whether a being called Yeshua ever existed. An Israeli I know says no one like that.

But if it is true he ever existed, then he can never be the same as Jesus which is roman creation.

Indoctrination of what? I don't think you properly comprehended the comment you responded to or else you wouldn't be going on about this as an issue, at least not with me still.

Also, you mention the Truth, and last I checked, Jesus Christ is the Truth of God and He didn't mention this as an issue for anyone to consider. So?

Kobojunkie:
1. This isn't about not simply wanting to be quoted but about wanting you to grow for your own self. The New Covenant that you have with Jesus Christ is strictly between God and you so everything you hear or read about God ought to to tested against that which God Himself, your only Teacher , has taught you or has said.

2. I believe it is to guard against the indoctrinatiom of His own that God declared that He alone will Teach His own about Himself - Jeremiah 31 vs 33 - 34. Jesus Christ repeated the message declaring that on His Kingdom, that only those who are taught by the Father are His - John 6 vs 43 - 45. He condemned any of His followers who would choose to set themselves up as teachers over those who belong to Him declaring that He alone is Teacher to His flock - Matthew 23 vs 7 - 10

3. To follow the New Covenant is to set the very teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ as the common sense standard for all things in one's life. What this means is that no longer is the world to dictate for you that which is wisdom/common sense because Jesus Christ becomes the only source of wisdom and the standard by which you live.

And as I already explained to you before now, Jesus Christ commands that His followers do as He says where God and the things of God are concerned - John 15 vs 14.

Now as for the supposed issue, Jesus Christ never gave instructions on what language to approach Him in prayer in or worship with, neither did He stipulate that the Hebrew translation of His name alone be retained and used. What this means is that it is of NO ISSUE what language translation His name is said or used in.

Trying to an issue out of a non-issue, that is not of God but of man.

The best I can say is since this bothers you, you should table the issue with Jesus Christ Himself so He can teach you Himself what you should do in this case.

bobestman:

Cos your mind is already infested with thrash. Anything you can't comprehend is thrash to you.

Anything I call trash is what I can't comprehend to you

I don't mind if it remains that way to you because your thinking doesn't matter to me

hupernikao:


You seems to have missed the whole purpose of A NAME. You are claiming a retention of jesus name in Hebrew yet you read and interpret the same expression as an English man. ie. speaking about mentioning the name.

This is not what such statement "in my name, in his name" means. To be calling the spelling and what tongues. You really missed the whole point as an English student. A Jew clearly know what this means.


When Bible refer to the "name of Jesus", it was never about calling the name as in mentioning the name either in Hebrew or in Greek or English. It is a statement of authority. A figurative expression borrowed from the OT texts which was connected to what we call Hebraism today. An expression of Hebrews culture, language and usage of words.

Such expression is not in mentioning the name, but speaks about identification and authority.

---

Example
If someone say to you. "GO IN MY NAME", I will help you.

Even in your own language, you will understand this clearly as not go and be mentioning my name but go in the identification, and authority and trust in my name.

It's a common phrase during the reign of the Greek. E. G IN THE NAME OF THE KING.

---

To understand this clearly, you have to go and check how such expression was used in the original language, in this case in the Hebrew text of OT. Then understand its meaning which you can now use the same knowledge to interpret the events of the NT. Don't forget the audience are of the same culture (Jews), hence their language and use of words are cultural and traditional. And they understand its meaning than foreigners.

So, go and check what this expression means "in my name", "in his name", "my name" etc.

Don't always assume knowledge.

Most times this problem always arise when we assume rather than ask question for clarity of what the Bible teaches. Assumption is very dangerous and will lead to wrong knowledge which will birth wrong believing and leads to wrong living.

Selah.

Weytin dey worry dis one.
If i tell you to go to someone in my name to collect money for me.
Don't i have a name ?
His disciples called him YEHOSHUA.
He tells them,in my name shall thou cast out demons.
What name do you think his disciples will call if they had travelled to Asia, Nigeria, Brazil to cast out devils?
Oyedepo,Adeboye would be pronounced as Oyedepo, Adeboye even if they travel to Israel, Brazil, France.
Why don't they translate Nigerian footballers names playing in Spain, Brazil or French leagues ?

hupernikao:


You seems to have missed the whole purpose of A NAME. You are claiming a retention of jesus name in Hebrew yet you read and interpret the same expression as an English man. ie. speaking about mentioning the name.

This is not what such statement "in my name, in his name" means. To be calling the spelling and what tongues. You really missed the whole point as an English student. A Jew clearly know what this means.


When Bible refer to the "name of Jesus", it was never about calling the name as in mentioning the name either in Hebrew or in Greek or English. It is a statement of authority. A figurative expression borrowed from the OT texts which was connected to what we call Hebraism today. An expression of Hebrews culture, language and usage of words.

Such expression is not in mentioning the name, but speaks about identification and authority.

---

Example
If someone say to you. "GO IN MY NAME", I will help you.

Even in your own language, you will understand this clearly as not go and be mentioning my name but go in the identification, and authority and trust in my name.

It's a common phrase during the reign of the Greek. E. G IN THE NAME OF THE KING.

---

To understand this clearly, you have to go and check how such expression was used in the original language, in this case in the Hebrew text of OT. Then understand its meaning which you can now use the same knowledge to interpret the events of the NT. Don't forget the audience are of the same culture (Jews), hence their language and use of words are cultural and traditional. And they understand its meaning than foreigners.

So, go and check what this expression means "in my name", "in his name", "my name" etc.

Don't always assume knowledge.

Most times this problem always arise when we assume rather than ask question for clarity of what the Bible teaches. Assumption is very dangerous and will lead to wrong knowledge which will birth wrong believing and leads to wrong living.

Selah.

However did YEHOSHUA tell you that the name YEHOSHUA is too difficult to pronounce and that you should translate it to Bros J, Jboy or Jesus.
If he were to be alive and the both of us travel to Israel and i tell people that i am looking for YEHOSHUA and you tell them that you are looking for BROS J, Jboy or Jesus.
Who do you think would meet the personality we are looking for ?

MaxInDHouse:


Please this is not the time to rush things.

Have you ever heard someone spoke with such conviction about a GROUP before?

So calm down and let's reason together now!

There is no human society where those nine qualities exist apart from Jehovah's Witnesses!

Your mention of Mecca, Dubai, Qatar shows you don't really know the meaning of those qualities!

For instance do you think people having LOVE will use WEAPONS to threaten one another into obeying the rules guiding them?

As for Politics and Racism it's against the rules of Jehovah's Witnesses globally so when i say we don't participate in those things i'm telling you the constitution guiding all members of God's Organization (Jehovah's Witnesses) globally!

I told you all other Organizations on this planet are under Satan the Devil, yet you're talking about FIFA. Please tell me which country that's a member of FIFA has agreed to stop making nuclear weapons?

Guy there are lots and lots of SECRETS but it's only if you avail yourself that you can know!

You speak as if Jehovah witness members are without sin ?
Since the peace enjoyed in Qatar, Mecca etc does not mean anything to you.
Which peace is enjoyed in Israel the birth place of the Christian Religion?
Not all individuals involve themselves in racism or politics in Mecca as well as in Israel,it is a matter of choice based on individual beliefs and lifestyle ?
I have friends who are not active in politics and they don't do racism either so don't think Jehovah witnesses are the only ones that don't partake in racism or politics.
If Christ had a betrayal disciple how much more Jehovah witness founded by fhuckin humans?
In every organization there are always betrayal(s). Don't exempt any organization.
They (Jehovah witness) members would sit together and say they don't involve in politics or racism but you can't trust anyone, so don't be too sure that all of them keep to the principles of the organization.
It is just like IPOB telling the public that they don't carry guns, speak for yourself alone.They can all agree not to carry guns but you can't trust anyone.Some people would not want to go on a protest for IPOB without arming themselves just at least to drop one cop if mistakingly they get attacked
Trust no man
Even pastors Carry guns in the northern parts of Nigeria.
Religion is a scam.

Trustnoman4life:

However did YEHOSHUA tell you that the name YEHOSHUA is too difficult to pronounce and that you should translate it to Bros J, Jboy or Jesus.
If he were to be alive and the both of us travel to Israel and i tell people that i am looking for YEHOSHUA and you tell them that you are looking for BROS J, Jboy or Jesus.
Who do you think would meet the personality we are looking for ?

How does what you wrote up here help your salvation or the salvation of others or even Bible study.

I have kept your focus on what a name means when it comes to issue of salvation, authority, lordship, culture and practices of the Jews And that's what Bible teaches.

If looking for the spelling is what you think saves you, so be it then. What is important to me is for you to be saved.

Trustnoman4life:

Weytin dey worry dis one.
If i tell you to go to someone in my name to collect money for me.
Don't i have a name ?
His disciples called him YEHOSHUA.
He tells them,in my name shall thou cast out demons.
What name do you think his disciples will call if they had travelled to Asia, Nigeria, Brazil to cast out devils?
Oyedepo,Adeboye would be pronounced as Oyedepo, Adeboye even if they travel to Israel, Brazil, France.
Why don't they translate Nigerian footballers names playing in Spain, Brazil or French leagues ?

When you are ready for serious Bible study, you will adjust the orientation of the Bible in your hands and read it well the way the original writers wants you to read. For now you can enjoy your imagination that come from unreadiness to study properly.

Enjoy Bro.

hupernikao:


How does what you wrote up here help your salvation or the salvation of others or even Bible study.

I have kept your focus on what a name means when it comes to issue of salvation, authority, lordship, culture and practices of the Jews And that's what Bible teaches.

If looking for the spelling is what you think saves you, so be it then. What is important to me is for you to be saved.

I am not talking about the spelling sef but the fhuckin sound .

Trustnoman4life:

I am not talking about the spelling sef but the fhuckin sound .

Okay. If the sound saves you. I am still okay. Just be saved by he one Bible called the saviour.

hupernikao:


When you are ready for serious Bible study, you will adjust the orientation of the Bible in your hands and read it well the way the original writers wants you to read. For now you can enjoy your imagination that come from unreadiness to study properly.

Enjoy Bro.

You be werey o.
I should trust what men wrote and not think for myself ?
The fhuckin angel mentioned a name to his mom which is YEHOSHUA why do you then approve the names like Jboy, Bros J or Jesus translated by men.
Why do they pronounce the names of the Nigerian footballers playing in Brazil,France,Germany or England the way their parents gave it to them why don't they translate it ?
It is better to try pronouncing the name of the players like obi Mikel,yakubu aiyegbeni etc than to translate it.
If you come to Nigeria looking for yakubu aiyegbeni and you start saying you are looking for Stones Jack "just saying" a translated version how can people know what you are talking about ?
Once again
The fhuckin angel mentioned a name to his mom which is YEHOSHUA why do you then approve the names like Jboy, Bros J or Jesus translated by men.

hupernikao:


Okay. If the sound saves you. I am still okay. Just be saved by he one Bible called the saviour.

In Shao Khan's voice"Don't make me laugh".
What of the ones other Religion see as their saviour ?
Religion is a scam.
Karl Marx was fhuckin right when he described Religion as the opium of the masses.
You probably don't believe that there are virgins waiting for Muslims if they die but you would want me to believe the mother of Jesus was not fhucked by a man before she gave birth to her son.
You must be high on some Bible diets.

MaxInDHouse:
People like you won't learn how to be liberal rather you just feel like carrying everyone along with your radical protests.
Whether you like it or not the Bible says this situation of some race ruling as in dominating another race will never end until God's Kingdom come! Daniel 2:44
WHY?
Because there are some supernatural forces (unseen) controlling people around you {Ephesians 6:12} so your unwarranted agitation about domination is useless. If you like go and gather people from North, East, West and South to join you in the protest thinking you can change the situation, you will only end up getting yourself and those you gathered KILLED while the condition you died for continues. And even if you succeed in Killing your present rulers you can never carry along all the people in Africa to change the hand of times.
People like Kwame Nkuruma (Ghana) Obafemi Awolowo (Nigeria) Muammar Gaddafi (Lybia) Thomas Sankara (Burkina Faso) Nelson Mandela (South Africa) all died fighting for the same course.
And in Europe people like Adolf Hitler (Germany) Benito Mussolini (Italy) and many others fight and died for the same course.
So humble yourself and listen to God's word!

After the fall of Egypt and Assyria (South Iran) who were the first and second world powers God said power will shift from Babylon to Persia to Greece to Rome to England and lastly to America before it becomes a multi-system where all the people will agree to continue PRACTICING one form of government "DEMOCRACY" it's during the time people are fighting and killing themselves over democracy that He (God) will bring His own government! Daniel 2:1-44

So you will only continue to sadden your own soul on what neither you or your great grandfather can change, and if you try to do anything stupid you will die like fowl. Act 5:36-37

May you have PEACE!

Had told you that you can only teach your fellow gullible Christians all those things they put in handouts for you people in that Cult called JW not me
All they gave you in that Bible is only what you people understand. When you open a bible, you will see where it was written that it is a copied or traliterated work. That alone should ring a bell and make you understand that what you are reading still have an original work many still have not known. The original books the bible was copied from you don't know. How they added names like God, Jesus and use them to replace the true names, you can never know. Many stories that were twisted in that book, you don't know.
The bible is your histories oh Africans. You are the first and ancient people. Your land is the land of creation. It is the land the first man was created and where he lived. Among you are those who still have the true record of everything that happened in the bible not the account written by your enemies you all believe today.

Like I said earlier go and look for gullible Christians to teach. When the times comes you guys will see it. It's a waste of time to me arguing with people who believe all the lies used to dupe their ancestors. I can tell you things you have not heard or seen in any book but they are the raw truth. You people will understand at the right time.

HellVictorinho:


Anything I call trash is what I can't comprehend to you

I don't mind if it remains that way to you because your thinking doesn't matter to me

Ok

Trustnoman4life:

In Shao Khan's voice"Don't make me laugh".
What of the ones other Religion see as their saviour ?
Religion is a scam.
Karl Marx was fhuckin right when he described Religion as the opium of the masses.
You probably don't believe that there are virgins waiting for Muslims if they die but you would want me to believe the mother of Jesus was not fhucked by a man before she gave birth to her son.
You must be high on some Bible diets.

Your case is like a man who spent the entirety of a life time chasing what he called a shadow.

Even if you arent busy, you should take your time to be resting than restless on something you dont believe in, Dont you think that is not normal? Dont let abnormality shape your life for you. It can be miserable.

Trustnoman4life:

You be werey o.
I should trust what men wrote and not think for myself ?
The fhuckin angel mentioned a name to his mom which is YEHOSHUA why do you then approve the names like Jboy, Bros J or Jesus translated by men.
Why do they pronounce the names of the Nigerian footballers playing in Brazil,France,Germany or England the way their parents gave it to them why don't they translate it ?
It is better to try pronouncing the name of the players like obi Mikel,yakubu aiyegbeni etc than to translate it.
If you come to Nigeria looking for yakubu aiyegbeni and you start saying you are looking for Stones Jack "just saying" a translated version how can people know what you are talking about ?
Once again
The fhuckin angel mentioned a name to his mom which is YEHOSHUA why do you then approve the names like Jboy, Bros J or Jesus translated by men.

Whaooo, what a display of intelligence. You are so different.

With this, you have won Sir, your trophy will be delivered to your door step by tomorrow. Ensure you keep this energy of chasing shadows all around, it will birth greater awards and trophies for you.

Weldone Sir.

hupernikao:


Your case is like a man who spent the entirety of a life time chasing what he called a shadow.

Even if you arent busy, you should take your time to be resting than restless on something you dont believe in, Dont you think that is not normal? Dont let abnormality shape your life for you. It can be miserable.

You must be a religious bigot.

hupernikao:


Whaooo, what a display of intelligence. You are so different.

With this, you have won Sir, your trophy will be delivered to your door step by tomorrow. Ensure you keep this energy of chasing shadows all around, it will birth greater awards and trophies for you.

Weldone Sir.

You are really on a Religious diet that intoxicates higher than cocaine or heroine.
Religious Junkie

Trustnoman4life:

You are really on a Religious diet that intoxicates higher than cocaine or heroine.
Religious Junkie

Thank you Sir. You have won. Or is there any issue again? Now you can rest and enjoy your exploit.

Trustnoman4life:

You must be a religious bigot.

Eeyaaa. Epèlé Sir.

Is like ewà troubled this night.
You will survive it Sir, its just another usual night for you.

Kobojunkie:
You know why many of you are easily manipulated by the False teachers and false prophets out there? It is because you let go of your ability to think and reason for yourselves to easy to the next Mog with the sweet mouth.

This article by Newsweek will help educate you, if you will open your mind's eye, to see how the name Jesus came about. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/jesus-yeshua-joshua-there-right-way-identify-son-god-1270917%3famp=1

Please stop going around creating threads to showcase more of your silliness.

You are actually the silly one. Believing that nonsense article. Yeshua and Jesus are both English Alphabets. 2 different names in the same language. Keep calling on the Greek diety. Talking of New Testament being written in Greek, lol. Look you are far deceived. Greek is a translation of Hebrew & they are purely demonic Pagans who did it with their own agenda

Its even you Kobojunkie. Shouldn't have replied. You are a lost soul

calebbintus:
You are actually the silly one. Believing that nonsense article. Yeshua and Jesus are both English Alphabets. 2 different names in the same language. Keep calling on the Greek diety. Talking of New Testament being written in Greek, lol. Look you are far deceived. Greek is a translation of Hebrew & they are purely demonic Pagans who did it with their own agenda

ROFLMAO

Some of you are completely gone!

hupernikao:


You seems to have missed the whole purpose of A NAME. You are claiming a retention of jesus name in Hebrew yet you read and interpret the same expression as an English man. ie. speaking about mentioning the name.

This is not what such statement "in my name, in his name" means. To be calling the spelling and what tongues. You really missed the whole point as an English student. A Jew clearly know what this means.


When Bible refer to the "name of Jesus", it was never about calling the name as in mentioning the name either in Hebrew or in Greek or English. It is a statement of authority. A figurative expression borrowed from the OT texts which was connected to what we call Hebraism today. An expression of Hebrews culture, language and usage of words.

Such expression is not in mentioning the name, but speaks about identification and authority.

---

Example
If someone say to you. "GO IN MY NAME", I will help you.

Even in your own language, you will understand this clearly as not go and be mentioning my name but go in the identification, and authority and trust in my name.

It's a common phrase during the reign of the Greek. E. G IN THE NAME OF THE KING.

---

To understand this clearly, you have to go and check how such expression was used in the original language, in this case in the Hebrew text of OT. Then understand its meaning which you can now use the same knowledge to interpret the events of the NT. Don't forget the audience are of the same culture (Jews), hence their language and use of words are cultural and traditional. And they understand its meaning than foreigners.

So, go and check what this expression means "in my name", "in his name", "my name" etc.

Don't always assume knowledge.

Most times this problem always arise when we assume rather than ask question for clarity of what the Bible teaches. Assumption is very dangerous and will lead to wrong knowledge which will birth wrong believing and leads to wrong living.

Selah.

Long Story. You are actually worshipping the anti christ. Just like 2 billion people. You are part of fulfillment of the prophecy of the anti christ deceiving the world save only the elects. He has deceived you all. If prophecy says something will happen. It must happen. No surprises. Keep fooling yourself

Kobojunkie:
ROFLMAO

Some of you are completely gone!

" ישוע that's the name in Hebrew. Read it nao English man. Lost soul. All these Anti Christs. Yeshua No other name

calebbintus:


Long Story. You are actually worshipping the anti christ. Just like 2 billion people. You are part of fulfillment of the prophecy of the anti christ deceiving the world save only the elects. He has deceived you all. If prophecy says something will happen. It must happen. No surprises. Keep fooling yourself

Good evening
Are you sure your post is for me? I struggle to see the relevance of it to what I posted. Maybe you can use a language and expression that is understandable if the comment is for me.

Allah SWT said:

"So for their breaking of the covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard. They distort words from their [proper] usages and have forgotten a portion of that of which they were reminded. And you will still observe deceit among them, except a few of them. But pardon them and overlook [their misdeeds]. Indeed, Allah loves the doers of good."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 13)

"And from those who say, We are Christians We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 14)

"O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger to make clear to you [the religion] after a period [of suspension] of messengers, lest you say, There came not to us any bringer of good tidings or a warner. But there has come to you a bringer of good tidings and a warner. And Allah is over all things competent."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 19)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Your problem is having the feeling that "SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE" but at the same time contradicting yourself saying "NOTHING SHOULD BE DONE"

Guy, you are talking to Maximus one of JWs, the one and only Christian group on this planet!

It's better you keep quiet when we are talking otherwise you'll continue to sound stupid each second you try to silence the TRUTH.

Let me open your eyes!

Now use your brains to decipher what is happening to you. Jesus Christ ordered his true followers to go and meet people in the comfort of their homes, PREACH God's kingdom to them and TEACH them how to be part of the beneficiaries. Jehovah's Witnesses are zealously doing that globally.

But now you are saying the Messiah has not come yet you're here trying to convince people on what exactly?
Don't you see that you're also PREACHING?
The only difference between me and you is that i'm PREACHING and TEACHING my audience what to do, and the result is felt globally while you are also PREACHING but there's nothing to TEACH so you're telling your own audience to maintain what they know as good deeds. Well the world is turning upside down today because each person wants to do what is good (in their own eyes) so lawlessness abounds. But as for Jehovah's Witnesses (real followers of Jesus Christ) we have made a name for ourselves globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So remain idle and continue preaching idleness to your listeners while we are making disciples for our Master, Lord and King: Jesus Christ! Act 1:8

bobestman:

Had told you that you can only teach your fellow gullible Christians all those things they put in handouts for you people in that Cult called JW not me
All they gave you in that Bible is only what you people understand. When you open a bible, you will see where it was written that it is a copied or traliterated work. That alone should ring a bell and make you understand that what you are reading still have an original work many still have not known. The original books the bible was copied from you don't know. How they added names like God, Jesus and use them to replace the true names, you can never know. Many stories that were twisted in that book, you don't know.
The bible is your histories oh Africans. You are the first and ancient people. Your land is the land of creation. It is the land the first man was created and where he lived. Among you are those who still have the true record of everything that happened in the bible not the account written by your enemies you all believe today.
Like I said earlier go and look for gullible Christians to teach. When the times comes you guys will see it. It's a waste of time to me arguing with people who believe all the lies used to dupe their ancestors. I can tell you things you have not heard or seen in any book but they are the raw truth. You people will understand at the right time.

MaxInDHouse:
Your problem is having the feeling that "SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE" but at the same time contradicting yourself saying "NOTHING SHOULD BE DONE"

Guy, you are talking to Maximus one of JWs, the one and only Christian group on this planet!

It's better you keep quiet when we are talking otherwise you'll continue to sound stupid each second you try to silence the TRUTH.

Let me open your eyes!

Now use your brains to decipher what is happening to you. Jesus Christ ordered his true followers to go and meet people in the comfort of their homes, PREACH God's kingdom to them and TEACH them how to be part of the beneficiaries. Jehovah's Witnesses are zealously doing that globally.

But now you are saying the Messiah has not come yet you're here trying to convince people on what exactly?
Don't you see that you're also PREACHING?
The only difference between me and you is that i'm PREACHING and TEACHING my audience what to do, and the result is felt globally while you are also PREACHING but there's nothing to TEACH so you're telling your own audience to maintain what they know as good deeds. Well the world is turning upside down today because each person wants to do what is good (in their own eyes) so lawlessness abounds. But as for Jehovah's Witnesses (real followers of Jesus Christ) we have made a name for ourselves globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So remain idle and continue preaching idleness to your listeners while we are making disciples for our Master, Lord and King: Jesus Christ! Act 1:8

You are wasting your time with those ppl. Same with all Christians and religion. What the true Messiah did was hijacked when they killed him and and all his disciples. Which pave the way for them to change his laws and teachings. They also unleashed the impostor Messiah which many in the world think he is the real today cos he claimed to be God Almighty and exalt himself as the Creator. The lies the Europeans sold to you all that many of you are blind to must pass out. The Father had a Covenant with his people to gather them , use them to teach the world and make them a praise in the eyes of their enemies and this at endtime as all prophets warned you that the Vision will be revealed on the time of the end. You all are preaching the wrong gospel and are wasting your time cos they will soon pass out. All of them including all religion when Isreal is gathered.

Sorry to cut you short with the highlighted!

There is only one Christian group worldwide "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"
Apart from this group all others are joking with their times.

EVIDENCES!

We have gone round the world to impress the LOVE of God and neighbours in the hearts of all those who listen to us {Mark 12:29-30} so if you hear of WARS know that not a single member of our group is involved! Isaiah 2:2-4


We have impressed LOVE for fellow believers {John 13:35-35} in the hearts of over 8 million people in different parts of the earth so if i should travel to any country on this planet where JWs lives its my home! Mark 10:28-30

We have taught our youths globally to be less anxious of the pursuit of life {Matthew 6:19-21} so when you see youths agitating or protesting against constituted authorities know that not a single JW is in their midst! 1Peter 3:15

We have erased Politics and Racism from the hearts of millions that dedicated their lives to our God so whenever you hear of people making life miserable for their fellowman claiming they're rulers {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} know that no single JW is in their midst!


Now tell me again, have we been WASTING our time in achieving all these? Isaiah 5:20

bobestman:

You are wasting your time with those ppl. Same with all Christians and religion. What the true Messiah did was hijacked when they killed him and and all his disciples. Which pave the way for them to change his laws and teachings. They also unleashed the impostor Messiah which many in the world think he is the real today cos he claimed to be God Almighty and exalt himself as the Creator. The lies the Europeans sold to you all that many of you are blind to must pass out. The Father had a Covenant with his people to gather them , use them to teach the world and make them a praise in the eyes of their enemies and this at endtime as all prophets warned you that the Vision will be revealed on the time of the end. You all are preaching the wrong gospel and are wasting your time cos they will soon pass out. All of them including all religion when Isreal is gathered.

hupernikao:


Good evening
Are you sure your post is for me? I struggle to see the relevance of it to what I posted. Maybe you can use a language and expression that is understandable if the comment is for me.

Your Jesus is the Beast, The Anti Christ. A wicked being. You are all heading to Eternal Destruction.That your long story is just spinning lies to deceive only yourself. You all should just own up to your actions & the fact that you are willfully deceived & disobedient. How you all cope with the lies you spin is astonishing. The Messiah is Yeshua. Jesus is hell bound

calebbintus:


Your Jesus is the Beast, The Anti Christ. A wicked being. You are all heading to Eternal Destruction.That your long story is just spinning lies to deceive only yourself. You all should just own up to your actions & the fact that you are willfully deceived & disobedient. How you all cope with the lies you spin is astonishing. The Messiah is Yeshua. Jesus is hell bound

Can you tell me more about this Yeshua. I want to learn.

hupernikao:


Can you tell me more about this Yeshua. I want to learn.

He is the man Jesus is Impersonating.
The way to get to a spiritual being is calling on his name, and following his laid down instructions; The Commandments. you need to go and find out about the Man called Emperor Constantine and how he introduced his own god into Christianity. You need to compare what you are doing to what is done in Israel and the Messianic Remnants. Nobody worship YHWH without keeping the Sabbath, Constantine ensured the cancellation of the Sabbath. Even the Messiah in the bible did not break talkmore Cancel the Sabbath: The Pharisees only thought he did, just like they thought he Blasphemed calling himself the Son of God. When you are ready to keep God's 10 Commandments & Believe in truth, you will clearly see why majority are heading to Eternal Damnation as the scriptures rightly said.