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Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Adejoro74: 2:47am On May 20, 2011 |
Oyo gov election: PDP heads for tribunal *Accuses Ajimobi of having dual citizenship http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/22193-oyo-gov-election-pdp-heads-for-tribunal-accuses-ajimobi-of-having-dual-citizenship |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Adejoro74: 2:49am On May 20, 2011 |
See as they splash the poor man's SSN on cyberspace. I hope some people no go steal him identity. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by biglawks(m): 3:57am On May 20, 2011 |
I am afraid these people are going to oust Ajimobi again. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by henry101(m): 4:10am On May 20, 2011 |
This is realy getting too messy. Can they prove their point without showing up his SSN? Damn, |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by BigB11(m): 4:46am On May 20, 2011 |
I think it has been confirmed that the faggott is an American. What an idiotttt and a typical example of why Nigeria is this screwed up. These motherfkers step on the rule of law in the day time without any hesitation. How can we move forward when folks like Ajimobi can not just simply obey the law? What is the difference btw Ajimobi and a common area boy? Not much. Now let us talk about what is on the ground. Yes, Ajimobi screwed up, but that doesn't mean that Akala will just walk back to be the governor of Oyo state for the 2nd time. The mandate of the people of Oyo state must still be acknowledged. Hence, the spot still belongs to the AC N party. I believe the deputy governor will be moved up to be the governor while they look for a replacement for his original spot. Ajimobi screwed up, AC N did not screwed up. I honestly feel bad for all the great Nigerians that took their precious time out to campaign and support Ajimobi. I hope these folks are compensated for their priceless time and their pure dedication. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by koruji(m): 4:52am On May 20, 2011 |
You people need to read what the constitution actually says and see that: 1. Our constitution allows dual citizenship. 2. Nothing, except voluntary renounciation, can forfeit a natural citizen of Nigeria ([size=14pt]which includes those born abroad to at least one Nigerian parent[/size]) of their citizenship. Some people have money to waste sha!!! source: Nigeria 1999 constitution |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by koruji(m): 4:54am On May 20, 2011 |
What kind of language is the bolded? Do you know Ajimobi personally? Has he done anything in private or in public deserving of such language? SMHV Big B1: |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by ektbear: 5:05am On May 20, 2011 |
@Big B1: |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by koruji(m): 5:07am On May 20, 2011 |
I know we are talking here about somebody voluntarily acquiring citizenship of another country, but we know that the Nigerian constitution is a bunch of contradictions: Compare: 177. A person shall be qualified for election to the office of Governor of a State if to the section in question: 182. (1) No person shall be qualified for election to the office of Governor of a State if - Does this mean you cannot have dual citizenship and be governor - a long battle in the courts is coming!!! The problem is that section 182 is subject to section 28, which is subject to its surrounding sections 25-27 and 29-31. A very perfect conundrum of confusion. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by BigB11(m): 5:29am On May 20, 2011 |
@koruji: I have used the bolded language only because I'm a bit upset. I counted on Ajimobi, I expected nothing but the best from the dude. I also feel bad for all those that took their precious time out to follow and support this dude for many months. He was supposed to rescue Oyo state. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by apoti(m): 6:02am On May 20, 2011 |
Big B1: Did you even bother to check those sections of the constitution before you started vomiting rubbish from your dumb brain FYI this is what the constitution says Section 28 (1) of the Constitution: 28. (1) Subject to the other provisions of this section, a person shall forfeit forthwith his Nigerian citizenship if, not being a citizen of Nigeria by birth, he acquires or retains the citizenship or nationality of a country, other than Nigeria, of which he is not a citizen by birth. Section 182 (1): 182. (1) No person shall be qualified for election to the office of Governor of a State if - (a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country This clearly shows there's no case, Akala is just wasting his time and money, fcuuking loser 1 Like |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by enyojo(f): 7:01am On May 20, 2011 |
koruji: [size=14pt] THANK YOU FOR PREVENTING ME FROM HAVING RUNNING STOMACH THIS EARLY MORNING![/size] ATLEAST THERE IS A SECTION 177 IS THERE TO ATTACK 182. AFTERALL, OBAMA IS A KENYAN AND AN AMERICAN. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by violent(m): 7:30am On May 20, 2011 |
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Where is the contradiction in this case? Section 182 from which the suit is being filed under says: 82. (1) No person shall be qualified for election to the office of Governor of a State if - (a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country; this refers back to section 28 which provides ground rules on forfeiture of Nigerian citizenship and acquisition of foreign citizenship: 28. (1) Subject to the other provisions of this section, a person shall forfeit forthwith his Nigerian citizenship if, not being a citizen of Nigeria by birth, he acquires or retains the citizenship or nationality of a country, other than Nigeria, of which he is not a citizen by birth. (2) Any registration of a person as a citizen of Nigeria or the grant of a certificate of naturalisation to a person who is a citizen of a country other than Nigeria at the time of such registration or grant shall, if he is not a citizen by birth of that other country, be conditional upon effective renunciation of the citizenship or nationality of that other country within a period of not more than five months from the date of such registration or grant. Section 28 refers back to Sections 25-27 and 29-32 which provides ground rules and clarifications on Citizenship:
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Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by violent(m): 7:32am On May 20, 2011 |
Sections 29-32 states:
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Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by violent(m): 7:40am On May 20, 2011 |
PDP has to prove that Ajimobi is not a Nigerian citizen by birth or has renounced his citizenship and pledged allegiance to another country! If this took me only 5 minutes to find out, then Akala has some really smart lawyers who knew from the very get go that this "lost case" will come with massive bills to their client. . . .those boys are only looking to grab what they can while it last, May 29 is really close. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Alxmyr(m): 7:55am On May 20, 2011 |
The constitution allow dual citizenship. Albeit, there are some positions you cannot hold if you have acquire citizenship of another country. The positions are President, Vice-President and Governor of a state. The law bar you from holding such offices if you have dual citizenship and have not renounce the citizenship of the other country. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by onyengbu: 8:17am On May 20, 2011 |
^^ if u ask me, i think thats d point there! |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Dotman01(m): 9:24am On May 20, 2011 |
Alxmyr:. . . i think u shuld show us the link in d constitution. . . arnold the former california governor was born in europe |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Desola(f): 9:41am On May 20, 2011 |
The clause is also that renunciation should be done within five months of registration? Isn't Ajimobi now out of time should he be considering renuncing his American citizenship? Someone elighten me, please. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Nobody: 9:50am On May 20, 2011 |
This is bad |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by pokur: 9:55am On May 20, 2011 |
@Alxmyr: Nothing affects the right of a natural-born nigerian to contest for any post except voluntary renounciation of citizenship.Section 28 is very clear and is not subject to any other section.Akala is being played for the fool he is by his counsels. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by violent(m): 10:02am On May 20, 2011 |
Alxmyr: wrong! section 182 applies when a political aspirant is not a citizen by birth! The clause is also that renunciation should be done within five months of registration? Isn't Ajimobi now out of time should he be considering renuncing his American citizenship? which clause? |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by honeric01(m): 10:04am On May 20, 2011 |
As long as he's a Nigerian and has a Nigerian passport, this is a lost case. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Nobody: 10:12am On May 20, 2011 |
This scenario get k-leg |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Nobody: 10:21am On May 20, 2011 |
donspony:The judiciary go re-align the leg soon |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Xfactoria: 10:55am On May 20, 2011 |
apoti: Guy, don't fool yourself! There is surely a case. This same provisions in Section 182 is the same as what is contained in Section 137 for the Office of a President. There is yet an ambiguity as regards the concluding part of section 182 that says "he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country". The oath of declaration of Citizenship of the US is a strongly worded statement that include clauses that expressly obligates you to carry weapon and go to war for the United States if you are called upon to do so. Now imagine if Nigeria is at war with the US, and the US requires Ajimobi to carry weapon and fight on its side, it WILL NOT BE CERTAIN on which side Ajimobi would fight. That pops up the issue of conflict of interest because Ajimobi and say Mr. President (assuming he is the one involved as 182 is a carbon copy of 137 for the office of the President) could be incapable of defending the sovereignty of the nation at that instance. THAT COULD NEVER HAVE BEEN THE INTENTION OF THW WRITER OF THE CONSTITUTION. They may fight this to the supreme court but I am sure that Ajimobi could be ousted with this. Too bad if Akala finds his way back to government house in Agodi on this grounds. One likely thing however is that this case will take as long as 1.5 - 2yrs tom determine up to the Supreme Court and before then Akala could use it to bargain a "no probe commitment" from Ajimobi and leave him off the hook. That may seem what Akala is interested in. Excerpt from oath of citizenship of the US: I hereby declare, on oath, •that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; •that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; •that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; •that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; •that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; •that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; •and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. In acknowledgement whereof I have hereunto affixed my signature. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Seun(m): 12:04pm On May 20, 2011 |
Whoever wrote that clause should be spanked. Every Nigerian citizen should be able to contest. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by emmatok(m): 12:19pm On May 20, 2011 |
WELL TOO FASHOLA IS A BRITISH CITIZEN BY BIRTH. Most Nigerian leaders are not Nigerian citizens- The Speaker, Dimeji Bankole is a UK citizen, Bukola Saraki (whose passport is enclosed) and James Ibori are also UK citizens, Senate President David Mark is a Belizean.
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Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by edicolove: 12:21pm On May 20, 2011 |
^^^ Every country has her rules. That was why Obama had to release his birth certificate because in US, you cannot become the President if you are not born in the US. Every nation has to have rules. There are pros and cons for these rules, but it is for the greater good. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by uwemjack(m): 12:26pm On May 20, 2011 |
This shows dat akala is a bad looser afterall. Notwitstanding d oyo people hv spoken, an akala wil be probed stil! The gov elect never denounced his nigeria citizenship hence akalas' counsel wil make some good moni! |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by edicolove: 12:33pm On May 20, 2011 |
^^^ The reality of life is that we have to follow the law. Without rules, society will be chaotic. If Ajimobi has contravened the rule, he will have to face it. The law is the law. Ajimobi too should have known what the law says before contesting for office. It shows that those aspiring to be leaders in our society do not acquaint themselves with our laws. That doesnt tell well of them and their patriotism. As a Nigerian, I have a copy of the constitution and I try to read it as much as I can. And I am not even a politician. |
Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by Koolking(m): 12:39pm On May 20, 2011 |
This thread is so enlightening on dual citizenships. The constitution seem to contradicts itself. May I ask: Is it possible for a governor of a Nigerian state to owe allegiance to two countries? I have not read in any of the posts here that Ajimobi renounced his US citizenship before contesting for the election. The whole issue is puzzling, let's see how their lawyers crack this |
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