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Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by Demmzy15(m): 12:18pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
AgentNairaland: What are you talking about? Who agreed with you where? Muhammad forcefully took Najrān from Romans but as of today, Najran is in Saudi Arabia NOT in Yemen you claimed, I have exposed you If Prophet Muhammad took it by war, any problem with that? ![]() Your warlord muhammad took it by force, Arab peninsula was NOT from the beginning for Islam, when Muhammad the founder of Islam wanted to force himself as prophet, he took Arabian peninsula with force and expelled all Jewish and Christians from it Yes, the Arabian Peninsula is for Islam only. All Jews and Christians were resettled outside its environs in areas like Yemen and Mesopotamia. Stop crying because I don't care about your tears ![]() Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab: And yes he did, expelled many to Yemen and Mesopotamia. The peninsula belongs to Muslims just as how the Vatican belongs to Christians and non-Hindus not being allowed into Pashupatinath temple areas. So the Christians your warlord expelled from Arabian peninsula are Muslims right? Your brain is always paining you, there were no established Christian communities in Makkah or Medinah only Jews. When Muslims later controlled the entire peninsula, they expelled the remaining Jews to mesopotamia and some to Yemen. This is why you have Yemenite Jews Saudi took it from Romans because your bloody Muhammad didn't wanted to hear or see anything that has to do with Christians and Jews Saudi took Najran from the Zaydi Yemeni Kingdom, keep crying my Yoruba Christian sister. I can feel your tears already ![]() Your sense is back after I exposed you, next time do more on research before posting nonsense here. You argued that Najran is NOT in Saudi Arabia but after I exposed your ignorant, your brain is reset You're actually an idiot who doesn't read, I never said Najran wasn't Saudi Arabia. I said it was always classified as Yemen and became only part of Saudi Arabia in 1934. Are you so dumb you don't understand what I'm typing to you? If you're dumb to not understand simple posts, then I'm sorry, I can't help you Because they betrayed your bloddy Muhammad does that mean he should massacre them in one night? Your bloody Muhammad beheaded over 800 Jews in one night imagine Yorùbá Christian and their hypocrisy, so the Jews can betray the Muslims and endanger their lives at the hands of the pagans after agreeing to defend the city together? You must be very stupidd, again they were executed according to the bible and I've given you the reference, if you aren't okay with the judgement, take it up with God ![]() ![]() Let me even quote the verse for you: If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. Deuteronomy 20:12-14 I WILL EXPOSE YOU AGAIN: Woooowww, I'm shaking!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() Rome is Capital of Vatican City, stop disgracing yourself please. ROME has a lot to do with Vatican City No it's not, Rome is the capital of Italy. Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital... The papacy recognized Italy with Rome as its capital, this is what this quote says. Don't you understand English? ![]() Going further, Italy then returned the favor and recognized the independency of the Vatican and the Pope: Italy in return recognized papal sovereignty over the Vatican City, a minute territory of 44 hectares (109 acres), and secured full independence for the pope. https://www.britannica.com/event/Lateran-Treaty Why can't you understand this simple grammar? ![]() Dundee, seems you don't understand what I'm saying. Only Italy recognized Vatican City as a Country because of Lateran treaty as Rome is the capital of Vatican City. Till tomorrow Catholicism shall keep on recognizing themselves as ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. Italy was the first of series of countries to recognize the Vatican, other countries recognize it. Don't sound smart because you don't even know what you're doing. The Vatican City through its representative or government if you could call it that "The Holy See" is recognized by the vast majority of countries of the world except Saudi Arabia, Oman, Somalia and China. You are a Muslim, just surrender yourself to learn what is happening in Christendom Surrender? I know alot more about Christendom than you, humble yourself mate Because I am exposing you, that is my happiness and I assure you to learn and gain something at the end Stop applauding yourself, you've exposed yourself to be very ignorant. This is the first time I'm seeing a Christian argue this, like who doesn't know the Vatican City is a country. It clearly shows you're ignorant and then you beat your flat chest as if you know. Dfkm! English is Haram in Islam because it is not the language allah and his messenger understood English should be bad for you since your god when he walked on earth only spoke Aramaic, pathetic god! ANOTHER BLUNDER: Idiot!!!! I even made a mistake earlier unknowingly, the Vatican City is inside Rome, so how can Rome be its capital? ![]() It's called Vatican City State and Vatican City is its capital oponu, Rome is the capital of Italy. Upon ratification of the Lateran Treaty, the papacy recognized the state of Italy, with Rome as its capital... Open your eyes, read and understand. Recognized the state of Italy with Rome as its capital. This is similar to saying the British recognized the Country of Nigeria with Lagos as its capital or better still, the government of Nigeria recognizes the State of Kwara with Ilorin as its capital. Does it mean Lagos is the capital of Britain or Ilorin is the capital of Nigeria? Are you this dumb? This is actually pitiful! ![]() UN don't recognized them as a Country, you don't need to secure a Membership form before you can become a member of UN. I am correcting you on this regards the blunder you made earlier that V.C don't wish to apply to become a Member of UN What is this werey saying? The Holy See which administrates the Vatican isn't a member of the UN because they chose not to apply, they have a status however which is a permanent observer member. It is recognized by the vast majority of the countries and considered to be an independent country, they've even bypassed China by seeking recognition from the Taiwanese. slowpoke, Independent State here means to have their own laws, state religion and the leader as Pope. Its Capital is Rome, you should ask why do they recognised Rome as their capital. Stop arguing blindly, surrender yourself to learn Yorùbá Christians and twisting definition for their whims, an independent state means they're a sovereign state and not bound by any country. The Vatican City is within Rome (or inside Rome), Rome is the capital of Italy and not the Vatican. Being independent as I highlighted in your post, means the pope is supreme and no one can challenge his authority, isn't that an independent country? ![]() I've said it earlier and I will say it again You've clearly defined an independent country but still turning around, they recognized Rome as the capital of Italy dumbo. Read again, Chai!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() I will praise myself because I am exposing you, it is my joy you gain something at end of this discussion. You don't understand English and you praising yourself, if you understood English, this discussion would've been over long ago. You will never see a MOSQUE in Vatican City and any other Christian's denominations. Yes, because it's for the Catholics and we're fine with that! On the other hand, BEFORE MUHAMMAD BROUGHT ISLAM, THERE ARE TEMPLES/SYNAGOGUE/CHURCHES In Saudi Arabia. Muhammad abolished Building of Temples, Synagogue, etc in KSA because the Jewish and Christians don't recognized him as a GENUINE PROPHET and he was not anointed to be a prophet of true God. This prompted Muhammad to expelled all Jews and Christians from Arabian peninsula, that is why till tomorrow YOU WILL NEVER see A Church Building, Temple or Synagogue in KSA Yes! Two religion can't exist in the Arabian peninsula, Islam is the supreme and right religion hence why others are removed! Any problem, you go cry somewhere else ![]() Smiles. Are you not on of those who beat his wives? I will show you how Allah underate your women in islam, Muhammad on his own called your wives as prisoners, animals, slaves, etc When we look at the stats, wife beating is prominent amongst Christians ![]() Allah instructs husband to BEAT there wives Yes and Islam has made it clear how the beating should be done, where it causes little pain and can't be done harshly. Plus prophet Muhammad whom we emulate never hit any of his wives even when he wasn't pleased, rather he said "the best amongst you are those who treat their wives best". But in Christianity, you're seen as a root of all evil, you're meant to be quiet and subservient to we strong males. Baby making machines basically, you are of no worth ![]() DON'T LET ONE IMAM DECEIVED YOU PLEASE, YOUR WOMEN IN ISLAM ARE ANIMALS, PRISONERS, SLAVES, etc AS MUHAMMAD SAID Really? Do you mean this, because last time I checked it was in the bible: Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yyourselves Numbers 31:17-18 Remember it was Jesus that commanded this o ![]() These are proofs from hadith: You said Hadith and you quoting from books of tarikh. I don't deal with books of tarikh but Hadith, hence why I cancelled them out and replied only Hadith. [s]Now then, O people, you have a right over your wives and they have a right over you. You have [the right] that they should not cause anyone of whom you dislike to tread on your beds; and that they should not commit any open indecency. If they do, then Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, If they abstain from [evil], they have the right to their food and clothing in accordance with the custom. For they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves. You have taken them only as a trust from Allah, and you have made the enjoyment of their persons lawful by the word of Allah, so understand and listen to my words, O people. I have conveyed the Message, and have left you with something which, if you hold fast to it, you will never go astray; that is, the Book of Allah and the sunnah of his Prophet. Listen to my words, O people, for I have conveyed the Message and understand [it]. Know for certain that every Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, and that all Muslims are brethren. It is not lawful for a person [to take] from his brother except that which he has given him willingly, so do not wrong yourselves. O Allah, have I not conveyed the message? CHECK THIS OUT TOO This is an Hadith now and so I'll respond! It was narrated that: Sulaiman bin Amr bin Ahwas said: “My father told me that he was present on the Farewell pilgrimage with the Messenger of Allah. He praised and glorified Allah, and reminder and exhorted (the people). The he said: 'I enjoin good treatment of women, for they are prisoners with you, and you have no right to treat them otherwise, unless they commit clear indecency. If they do that, then forsake them in their beds and hit them, but without causing injury or leaving a mark if they obey you, then do not seek means of annoyance against them. You have rights over your women and you women have rights over you. Your rights over you women are that they are not to allow anyone whom you dislike on treat on your bedding (furniture), not allow anyone whom you dislike to enter your houses. And their right over you are that should treat them kindly with regard to their clothing and food.' ” (Sahih) Sneaky Yoruba Christian, anyone with an aorta of sense would see your hypocrisy. I've removed your emphasis and placed mine! So I challenge you now, show me a verse from the bible where women are spoken about like this or better, I'm waiting! Remember you are not allowed to inherit your father o, so if your father dies today and he has sons, nothing comes to you because you're a piece of shit ![]() |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 4:07pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
AgentNairaland: Gbam.. You too much madam |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 9:06pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Are you kidding me with these questions? Is like you just came back from another planet
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Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 9:13pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Demmzy15: I pity your end
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Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 9:16pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
AgentNairaland bravo, you are doing wonderfully well |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by AntiChristian: 8:02am On Sep 11, 2021 |
RightChannel: The news was on September 8, 2021. And the reports says ..."will be used"... This is still future tense. Today is 11 September, 2021. If your report is true then they promised to use it this week. So I am not kidding you. Bring the report that they have been using it. |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 9:05am On Sep 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian: I don't think you are of this planet, Taliban announced its new government on Tuesday 7th of September, 2021 and the news was published on 8th of September, 2021. It was on Tuesday 7th of September, 2021 the leader of Taliban said Afghanistan will be governed by laws of 'holy Sharia', What future tense are you still looking for? |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 9:18am On Sep 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian: This is from CNN, let me share it with you maybe it will solve your future tense ignorant From the pic below, Is that not part of Sharia law?
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Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by AntiChristian: 9:33am On Sep 11, 2021 |
RightChannel: This still proves i'm correct. They are just trying to use it. Not that they've been using it as you said before. And this is part of it but more still remain. |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 9:36am On Sep 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Even by separating Boys from girls in Public Schools shows they are still trying to enforce sharia laws right? May God help you |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 9:54am On Sep 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Babaheekmat a.k.a Alfa Jalabi, come and see your brother again |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 9:55am On Sep 11, 2021 |
RightChannel: No mind dat boy ![]() |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by Babaheekmat: 12:21pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
ANTIlSLAM: E be like say you want your life to ruin finally? Ori e yi ni? Why in the world would you call that Kafir my brother? He's your brother. Why in the world would you call me alfa jalabi.. your papa |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 12:51pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Babaheekmat: Alfa Jalabi carry your suffering go meet Anti.Christian your brother from religion of allah, Islam.. ![]() |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by Demmzy15(m): 4:46pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
RightChannel:You're an idiot, I don't support the Taliban donkey. I pity you because you guys are hypocrites and stupidd, you destroyed a Muslim country and yet don't want to admit them into the West. Animals! 1 Like |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by Demmzy15(m): 4:48pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
RightChannel:Yes it is, do you know there are segregated schools in America too or you want to be a hypocrite? Muslims are not filthy like you lots, we believe in a segregated society which protects women! 1 Like |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 5:03pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Demmzy15: Who is confusing you people in Islam? Your second said it is Not sharia law Name three segregated schools in American that even enforce the use of hijab if any |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 5:08pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Demmzy15: You don't need to insult before making up your point But your second is in full support of this deadliest group, are you not of the same belief? How does American destroy Afghanistan? And now that Taliban has taking over, why are your people srunning to be govern with Sharia Law? They are running to American, UK but Never run to Saudi Arabia, why that? |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 5:09pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Demmzy15 your second has agreed that they are now using it |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by AntiChristian: 3:53pm On Sep 13, 2021 |
RightChannel: But you said they've been using it. |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by Demmzy15(m): 4:00pm On Sep 13, 2021 |
RightChannel:This is why I call you an idiot! The US destroyed Afghanistan and the very same people they deposed are now in power and thus a huge failure. Secondly, the vast majority of afghan people are in the country and no one is running out. Those who are running out are those who supported the NATO and if you were smart enough, you would've known that whenever an invading force is leaving a country, those who supported them are usually persecuted when the invading forces leave. This is why they usually rush to leave the country alongside the invading forces, this is exactly what happened in Vietnam. Many South vietnamese officials left the country alongside the US, it has nothing to do with Shari'ah donkey! |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by Demmzy15(m): 4:03pm On Sep 13, 2021 |
RightChannel: Idiot, stop mentioning my second and address me. Name three segregated schools in American that even enforce the use of hijab if any There's a whole list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-sex_education |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by mhmsadyq(m): 6:30pm On Sep 13, 2021 |
RightChannel: You trinitarians are always quick to say Afgans/Muslims are running to America and the West. Prove that there are more Afgans/Muslims in America or the West than there are in Afganistans or any Muslim country for that matter. I am waiting... |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by mhmsadyq(m): 6:58pm On Sep 13, 2021 |
RightChannel: In Nigeria: St Finbarr's College King's College Queen's College St Andrew's Secondary School St Mary's Catholic Model School St Peter's Secondary School and more.... I guess these schools are gifts from Afganistan or Saudi Arabia to Nigeria |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by AgentNairaland(f): 9:06pm On Sep 13, 2021 |
RightChannel: Thank you |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by AgentNairaland(f): 9:07pm On Sep 13, 2021 |
ANTIlSLAM: You are welcome sir |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 4:59pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
mhmsadyq: Are you this daft? The question says Name three segregated schools in American that even enforce the use of hijab if any |
Re: Is It Permissible For Muslims To Live In The Land Of The Kuffar? by RightChannel: 5:14pm On Sep 14, 2021 |
mhmsadyq: For Muslims in USA is 3.3 Millions and For Muslims in Qatar is 1.17 Millions see the differences. Why are they not running to Islamic countries rather choose Western countries? The reason is because of Sharia Laws |
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