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Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 4:49pm On Sep 15, 2021
I've been on nairaland for some years now even though I've never been a registered member in those years, especially on the programing sections!

Why is it that I only see people posting about HTML, CSS, JAVASCRIPT, REACT, NODES etc and just the web stuffs in general.

I don't see people posting things about Artificial intelligence, maybe writing AI algorithms or even robotics and embedded systems.......even though you don't have to do them to work in Nigeria, but how about taking foreign jobs?, AI remote works. of which, I believe Nigeria is almost moving into automatons, even if it's not now but in the future (thanks to our backwardness and slow adaptation to modern world)

Before you'll see one AI programmer, you might have seen almost 40 to 50 web developers I'm talking about HTML, CSS, JAVASCRIPT people etc and other web related stuff.

is it because Nobody wants to stress themselves with highly brain demanding task or what or because it is common among Nigerian tech space. I think more abides in technology other than just web activities.

even for the web development, I think you can write some AI codes and deploys them to your web whatever, to solve highly sophisticated computations and tasks on your websites. or is it just for building a design based stuffs, e commerce sites, content management system(CMS)advertising sites, school portals, car websites, blogs, news sites etc......

I think one can do more than these designs stuffs and makes there site a platform for performing or solving real time problems by writing AI algorithms to automate there site.

So, why is it only web here unlike other foreign programing forums where you'll see post about different aspect of coding.

I stand to be corrected about my thinking...... just my observations.

or is it that we don't have much AI programmers here unlike the numbers of web developers and web related posts
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by WoundedLamb: 4:58pm On Sep 15, 2021
The law of demand and supply.

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by tensazangetsu20(m): 5:12pm On Sep 15, 2021
Most AI jobs are academic oriented. You need a PhD most times In computer science to get them and it's not easy to get an AI remote job at all. It's very difficult. Almost impossible if you look at it critically.

There's also the steps to learning AI. A lot of people in Nigeria start learning code with phone or writing on paper then along the line, a stranger or family members manage to get the person a 50 to 80k laptop worth. Is that the kind of laptop people would train and run data models on?

There's really no benefit to dabbling into advanced data science for a Nigerian living in Nigeria. It always ends in tears 90 percent of the time.

As for web development, honestly there's really few web developers in Nigeria. You might think we have a lot because you see a lot of people Begging to do sites for 10k lol. Try hiring and see what companies are seeing now. It's hot in the streets.

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by plat0: 5:56pm On Sep 15, 2021
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Saskay44: 6:37pm On Sep 15, 2021
If you learn ai for naija for were u wan practice m

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 8:59pm On Sep 15, 2021
Saskay44:
If you learn ai for naija for were u wan practice m

Not necessarily to work in naija, one can take remote jobs and solve real time problems facing life on your own.
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 9:02pm On Sep 15, 2021
plat0:
https://www.nairaland.com/6202720/thread-experiment-reinforcement-learning-artificial

Saw it when you first posted it....... it's nice and amazing!!! but Ai post is not often seen here!!!
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Nobody: 9:22pm On Sep 15, 2021
I've noticed this too not just AI sef, even game is hardly discussed almost like we have only JavaScript and python programmers in Nigeria, no C, C++ few in java, nobody is into unity with C# and I think it's hurting our tech space cos there won't be any startup like Adobe coming out of Nigeria or even operating systems, powerful games etc
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:16pm On Sep 15, 2021
Think4Myself:
I've noticed this too not just AI sef, even game is hardly discussed almost like we have only JavaScript and python programmers in Nigeria, no C, C++ few in java, nobody is into unity with C# and I think it's hurting our tech space cos there won't be any startup like Adobe coming out of Nigeria or even operating systems, powerful games etc
If poverty in Nigeria is fixed, people will do all this. Vietnam already has branches of popular game companies. A large amount of indian devs were part of the team that made dishonoured become human. Poverty needs to die in Nigeria first and people will code the moon.

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 11:08pm On Sep 15, 2021
Think4Myself:
I've noticed this too not just AI sef, even game is hardly discussed almost like we have only JavaScript and python programmers in Nigeria, no C, C++ few in java, nobody is into unity with C# and I think it's hurting our tech space cos there won't be any startup like Adobe coming out of Nigeria or even operating systems, powerful games etc

Reason why we can never compete with the rest of the world, Nigerians often time depends on one thing, once they know that thing, they don't easily let go......until e cast!!!

These is what has kept Nigeria stagnant the way it is today.
No diversifying of economy...........

In India, Vietnam, USA, Europe and other part of the world, they don't depend or focus on one thing. they have good programmers in different aspect of programing ranging from game, software, robotics, web, embedded systems, UI/UX, Ai etc..........but here in naija, na one thing!!!!! expect for few who have a different non popular niche.

And for developing operating systems, hmmm make I no talk.....who wan stress themselves for here? na to use finished product na him we sabi........better people go sit down, think and then come out with libries, frameworks, then we go just rush go learn to use them......that's all!!!

with these kind mentality, I no sure say we go ever compete with other part of the world in terms of technology!

white man dey explore every part of something........
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by hahn(m): 11:09pm On Sep 15, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

If poverty in Nigeria is fixed, people will do all this. Vietnam already has branches of popular game companies. A large amount of indian devs were part of the team that made dishonoured become human. Poverty needs to die in Nigeria first and people will code the moon.

For real.

To hustle to buy fuel and then put on your gen to code is not exactly motivating undecided
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:11pm On Sep 15, 2021
hahn:


For real.

To hustle to buy fuel and then put on your gen to code is not exactly motivating undecided
Internet no dey sef. Very good internet from IPNX is 200k a month, a junior dev salary. Beans is 700 naira for a cup. Beans o.

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by hahn(m): 11:22pm On Sep 15, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Internet no dey sef. Very good internet from IPNX is 200k a month, a junior dev salary. Beans is 700 naira for a cup. Beans o.

A cup abi derica? shocked

The country is getting harder every day man sad
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:24pm On Sep 15, 2021
hahn:


A cup abi derica? shocked

The country is getting harder every day man sad
I went to buy today and was so shocked. Little wonder all the akara vendors around me have closed up shop. I just cant imagine how the low income earners in Nigeria are surviving. Na him person go see all this one dey do AI. lipsrsealed. Derica between. It was 450 a month ago.

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 11:25pm On Sep 15, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

If poverty in Nigeria is fixed, people will do all this. Vietnam already has branches of popular game companies. A large amount of indian devs were part of the team that made dishonoured become human. Poverty needs to die in Nigeria first and people will code the moon.

plus exploring other part of our economy. for naija, power supply which is important for tech is second to zero here.

tech budgeting na zero........if not technology can be used to combat most of our national problems ranging from health, security, education, businesses etch......just like other part of the world that has made life easy with technology and innovations........ na only oyel.....
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:27pm On Sep 15, 2021
Genesiszero:


plus exploring other part of our economy. for naija, power supply which is important for tech is second to zero here.

tech budgeting na zero........if not technology can be used to combat most of our national problems ranging from health, security, education, businesses etch......just like other part of the world that has made life easy with technology and innovations........ na only oyel.....
Absolutely but you see even at its low state, the government hates and despises tech.They want everyone poor and suffering and living on Npower. You see a future Japan for Nigeria, they imagine a place that can be worst than Afghanistan and Somalia combined.

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by hahn(m): 11:29pm On Sep 15, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

I went to buy today and was so shocked. Little wonder all the akara vendors around me have closed up shop. I just cant imagine how the low income earners in Nigeria are surviving. Na him person go see all this one dey do AI. lipsrsealed. Derica between. It was 450 a month ago.

No imagine am o. The sakpa is real for us sad

I remember when I an wifey could cook stew and soup with N1,000.

N1,000 now can't buy sh1t.

Naija 2021 is on fire
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by hahn(m): 11:31pm On Sep 15, 2021
Genesiszero:


plus exploring other part of our economy. for naija, power supply which is important for tech is second to zero here.

tech budgeting na zero........if not technology can be used to combat most of our national problems ranging from health, security, education, businesses etch......just like other part of the world that has made life easy with technology and innovations........ na only oyel.....

The environment does not support development bro.

Allow people learn html, css, javascript first so they can least put food on the table and work out how to travel out of the country.

The stress here is way too much undecided

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:32pm On Sep 15, 2021
hahn:


No imagine am o. The sakpa is real for us sad

I remember when I an wifey could cook stew and soup with N1,000.

N1,000 now can't buy sh1t.

Naija 2021 is on fire
Just close your eyes and imagine 2023 and beyond.

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by hahn(m): 11:44pm On Sep 15, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Just close your eyes and imagine 2023 and beyond.

2023 and beyond in Canada or anywhere far away from Nigeria undecided
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:50pm On Sep 15, 2021
hahn:


2023 and beyond in Canada or anywhere far away from Nigeria undecided
Amen even for myself O.
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 11:54pm On Sep 15, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Absolutely but you see even at its low state, the government hates and despises tech.They want everyone poor and suffering and living on Npower. You see a future Japan for Nigeria, they imagine a place that can be worst than Afghanistan and Somalia combined.

what a pity, we're in deep mess!!!!

especially in our educational sector and universities.....

my one time experiences some years ago!

my so called lecturer was lecturing in my second year then(C language), and some students where trying to rewrite those nonsense he wrote on the board as programs, on their PCs, then the lecturer told them to close their gadgets and only listen, when they get home then, they can write the code, omo I come they ask my self say how the students go take see if everything dey correct....... for fear of Carry over everybody mellow!!!!!

in fact, him bin dey copy code for him phone from one site like that and him dey write for board, come even dey make mistakes, sometimes him no go close opening braces or terminates some sentences with semicolon. and you dare not write nor run the code, see plenty error even without compiling the codes

for the fact that I've been coding right from my last days in secondary school before gaining admission, I no dey even mind the man. na to come class sign attendance.

arranged some of my gees having troubles, take them tutorials and boom, i zoom.

na for filling of practical manual for that language, na him the man come dey notice say some people been sabi the stuff ooo........man come go on a low key.......

na to dey carry macbook up and down.

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 12:02am On Sep 16, 2021
hahn:


The environment does not support development bro.

Allow people learn html, css, javascript first so they can least put food on the table and work out how to travel out of the country.

The stress here is way too much undecided

true sha.........

inside life!!!!!
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by arejibadz(m): 5:55am On Sep 16, 2021
ai requires lot of praticals which you cant get tools or equipment in nigeria.....the world is leaving us behind bro
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by KunleyY19(m): 6:49am On Sep 16, 2021
Genesiszero:


Reason why we can never compete with the rest of the world, Nigerians often time depends on one thing, once they know that thing, they don't easily let go......until e cast!!!

These is what has kept Nigeria stagnant the way it is today.
No diversifying of economy...........

In India, Vietnam, USA, Europe and other part of the world, they don't depend or focus on one thing. they have good programmers in different aspect of programing ranging from game, software, robotics, web, embedded systems, UI/UX, Ai etc..........but here in naija, na one thing!!!!! expect for few who have a different non popular niche.

And for developing operating systems, hmmm make I no talk.....who wan stress themselves for here? na to use finished product na him we sabi........better people go sit down, think and then come out with libries, frameworks, then we go just rush go learn to use them......that's all!!!

with these kind mentality, I no sure say we go ever compete with other part of the world in terms of technology!

white man dey explore every part of something........

I love your point. It's a general problem in Nigeria. We get fixated on one thing before it finally cast. Once somebody writes a story on how he earns huge amount of money from a particular thing you see people rushing into that same thing. It's a race of survival here in Nigeria and not a race of innovation...
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by ichidodo: 9:18am On Sep 16, 2021
Most Nigerians hate maths and aren't intelligent enough to think out of the box never mind to think abstract...All we like to do is copy and paste..Is it a wonder web designing is the most popular? The irony is web designing needs so much expensive hardware to execute properly and yet is lowest paid while data analysis, automation, robotics etc can go with a moderately cheap hardware, enough space to create your own algorithmic niche and be paid very well for it...
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 9:29am On Sep 16, 2021
KunleyY19:


I love your point. It's a general problem in Nigeria. We get fixated on one thing before it finally cast. Once somebody writes a story on how he earns huge amount of money from a particular thing you see people rushing into that same thing. It's a race of survival here in Nigeria and not a race of innovation...

in deed no trace of innovations......

just talks say you earn 350k for one thing, boom everywhere go scatter.... you go see traffic anyhow. then later, another person go come they tell u say him go do that same thing for just 25k, very funny.........

No innovation of any sort, brother take these from me, there are lot of unexplored problems calling for solutions that once you can proffer possible solution, you're in huge cash, but heel no...... only REINVENTING the wheel.......or doing what others has done in the past........some systems have even sometimes been set up to even handle those task with ease!

programing is problem solving and not reinventing the wheel!!!!

look at Tesla, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon etc....... they don't do same thing over and over again......the come up with new innovations every time.....and these keeps them relevant!!!!
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 9:30am On Sep 16, 2021
arejibadz:
ai requires lot of praticals which you cant get tools or equipment in nigeria.....the world is leaving us behind bro

Leaving us far behind...........

Even in the web development, I think a lot of innovations can be made to make life easier other than just building web pages and Content management system or blogs and adding just responsiveness to them.....I think more can be done over the web too. and thats where real web programmers comes into play.

I told my junior brother who is into web that did he know that games can be written to run over the web? he was almost debating with me that it's almost impossible, I just laugh and move on....I know only real time hard core web programmers can do that........not WordPress people

we love entertainment in naija, every one knows that, especially entertainment from our smart phones, How many good games are from Nigerian game programmers not that plenty
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 9:59am On Sep 16, 2021
ichidodo:
Most Nigerians hate maths and aren't intelligent enough to think out of the box never mind to think abstract...All we like to do is copy and paste..Is it a wonder web designing is the most popular? The irony is web designing needs so much expensive hardware to execute properly and yet is lowest paid while data analysis, automation, robotics etc can go with a moderately cheap hardware, enough space to create your own algorithmic niche and be paid very well for it...

Brilliant.........

we don't just want to brain storm or think out of the box.....
And data science, automation, robotics demands higher scale of problem solving ability and that's where application of advanced maths equations comes into play in developing algorithms.

just develop one Ai algorithm that solves a very hard problem that seems impossible, just one, you're fvcking millionaire with a long term financial sustainability while solving other problems........ but to do the thinking and intelligence related task, you no go see anybody.

these is why elon musk keeps racking in millions of dollars (automation).

na just to dey do one thing over and over for here!!!

Ai systems are taking over some tech sectors as we are speaking, these AI offers better proficiency, accuracy, durability and lots more.

who wan dey stress himself dey build softwares to do big works?

A friend recently started designing some neural network algorithm for breast cancer detection from infant stage, these Neural network automatically generate a HTML encodings of the features detected and automatically display them on your browser........even with some CSS stylings too, the Ai does that by itself......

He's still developing the whole system, though with some issues as it stands presently which i think is normal for every new innovation, but a good progress and improvement is already being observed.

He test run the system for me...mehn, I was wowed and marveled..... I couldn't help it especially in the automatic web generated pages........

later learnt that he lost an Aunty due to breast cancer!!!!!!
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by ichidodo: 10:30am On Sep 16, 2021
Genesiszero:


Brilliant.........

we don't just want to brain storm or think out of the box.....
And data science, automation, robotics demands higher scale of problem solving ability and that's where application of advanced maths equations comes into play in developing algorithms.

just develop one Ai algorithm that solves a very hard problem that seems impossible, just one, you're fvcking millionaire with a long term financial sustainability while solving other problems........ but to do the thinking and intelligence related task, you no go see anybody.

these is why elon musk keeps racking in millions of dollars (automation).

na just to dey do one thing over and over for here!!!

Ai systems are taking over some tech sectors as we are speaking, these AI offers better proficiency, accuracy, durability and lots more.

who wan dey stress himself dey build softwares to do big works?

A friend recently started designing some neural network algorithm for breast cancer detection from infant stage, these Neural network automatically generate a HTML encodings of the features detected and automatically display them on your browser........even with some CSS stylings too, the Ai does that by itself......

He's still developing the whole system, though with some issues as it stands presently which i think is normal for every new innovation, but a good progress and improvement is already being observed.

He test run the system for me...mehn, I was wowed and marveled..... I couldn't help it especially in the automatic web generated pages........

later learnt that he lost an Aunty due to breast cancer!!!!!!
The environment with all the intelligence is too harsh for such ideas to be developed so folks go for the easy way out..You have to be emotionally invested and pained to embark on challenges such as automation,robotics,Ai etc to solve real life problems...I never liked maths but I loved computers and how they worked...the languages on offer then were too abstract, enough for me to get brain damage but God bless whoever made python, now I can read and write code like one who's writing an article or reading a newspaper without getting migraines...I wrote an AI to recognise human behavioural patterns in the forex market thereby giving itself a market edge on making money trading forex for His Father (me) without the emotional drama that comes with being personally involved in that activity...And that was my passion alone to learn AI and deep learning..
Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by Genesiszero: 12:25pm On Sep 17, 2021
ichidodo:
The environment with all the intelligence is too harsh for such ideas to be developed so folks go for the easy way out..You have to be emotionally invested and pained to embark on challenges such as automation,robotics,Ai etc to solve real life problems...I never liked maths but I loved computers and how they worked...the languages on offer then were too abstract, enough for me to get brain damage but God bless whoever made python, now I can read and write code like one who's writing an article or reading a newspaper without getting migraines...I wrote an AI to recognise human behavioural patterns in the forex market thereby giving itself a market edge on making money trading forex for His Father (me) without the emotional drama that comes with being personally involved in that activity...And that was my passion alone to learn AI and deep learning..

Good work.......impressive!!!

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Re: Who Else Notices These ???? by LikeAking: 5:59pm On Sep 18, 2021
Op calm down life na small. small.

We never reach that side.

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