First and foremost I don't support cheating and deception I can never support deception or paternity fraud but I wonder why some men are outraged over paternity fraud.

We live in a society or some of us grew up in a society that gave excuse or justified infidelity amongst men under the guise of "men are polygamous in nature"they forget that men can be used to refer to women too and that polygamous is a gender neutral word for men it is polygyny for women it is polyandry.

When you justify infidelity or adultery you reap paternity fraud because these married men sleep with married women who are wives of other men who are at the receiving end when it comes to paternity fraud.

You men cannot always eat your cake and have it you feel bad when cheated on and call women who commit adultery all sorts of names but hail men when they cheat on women what happened to what is good for the goose is good for the gander.Some people seem to forget that the cheating men don't sleep with themselves they sleep with people's wives and girlfriends too so maybe that shows that women are polygamous in nature and two can play a game.

You cannot be preaching morality and chastity on women while failing to hold yourselves to account as well it doesn't work that way because it is a small world afterall if boys are not taught morality, decency and chastity we will continue to hear tales of paternity fraud and infidelity.

As we try to shame and tell young girls not to follow married men let's not forget to tell young boys and married men to leave married women alone it is the same polygamous men that are sleeping with these women and another man is at the receiving end of this disaster men don't sleep with themselves they sleep with women

As for the married men and women depending on your vows if you promised to be faithful try to be faithful and stop cheating beautiful women and handsome men will never finish in this word try to stick to one be contented,committed and try to learn discipline.


I think we should ask men why they are outraged

Well, primarily because it concerns all they think about as vaginometers.

The thought that a woman dares do what men do is outrageous and makes them emotional. It is only then they care about fidelity. It's just a reflex reaction.

Some of the men talking so much about paternity fraud and DNA tests aren't even the sons of their fathers. The way they have instituted baby mama-ism is the same way they will later institute paternity fraud.

Male on male wickedness. Men are never their own best friends.

BRATISLAVA:
Well, primarily because it concerns all they think about as vaginometers.

The thought that a woman dares do what men do is outrageous and makes them emotional. It is only then they care about fidelity. It's just a reflex reaction.

Some of the men talking so much about paternity fraud and DNA tests aren't even the sons of their fathers. The way they have instituted baby mama-ism is the same way they will later institute paternity fraud

Male on male wickedness. Men are never their own best friends.

I didn't even remember to add this,thanks for your input.

In a nutshell men are their own enemies

AmazonTopaz:
I didn't even remember to add this,thanks for your input.

In a nutshell men are their own enemies

I see their complaints about paternity fraud as pointless rabble-rousing. It is men who betray other men. And some of them complaining probably have a child somewhere that another man is taking care of.

We need to institute DNA tests on all the children of mens exes to know if he is guilty of family/paternity fraud himself, too. They keep hiding their evil tendencies to betray themselves because they don't get pregnant after trysts.

You people and gender war threads
No one wants to be cheated on, whether male or female.
There are women who have never taken it lightly being cheated on and made the men pay heavily. An example is Tiger Wood's ex-wife. Some women have stabbed their husbands to death over infidelity.

The recent trend of paternity fraud is because of recent advancement in technology. It has been there for ages.

My hand no dey women vs men or vice versa.

BRATISLAVA:
Well, primarily because it concerns all they think about as vaginometers.

The thought that a woman dares do what men do is outrageous and makes them emotional. It is only then they care about fidelity. It's just a reflex reaction.

Some of the men talking so much about paternity fraud and DNA tests aren't even the sons of their fathers. The way they have instituted baby mama-ism is the same way they will later institute paternity fraud.

Male on male wickedness. Men are never their own best friends.

You want to turn society upside down be that one now.

thorpido:
An example is Tiger Wood's ex-wife. Some women have stabbed their husbands to death over infidelity.

is that woman a Nigerian woman or the law she took advantage of of Nigeria?

Kobojunkie:
You want to turn society upside down be that one now.

Men should live and let women live, too. Morality was not created for only women.

It's men who encourage all bad sex things in society. They want it, they seek it and they have the equipment to do it.

Men also bring children from outside sex to destroy the sanctity of their homes. They threaten to divorce their wives if they don't accept their own "flesh and blood". Yet it's somehow wrong when a woman brings her own flesh and blood home.

Men showing their double standards again.

Kobojunkie:
is that woman a Nigerian woman or the law she took advantage of of Nigeria?

Nigeria has no such strong laws. I'm just talking about paternity fraud in general and not limiting to a Nigerian thing.

thorpido:
You people and gender war threads
No one wants to be cheated on, whether male or female.
There are women who have never taken it lightly being cheated on and made the men pay heavily. An example is Tiger Wood's ex-wife. Some women have stabbed their husbands to death over infidelity.

The recent trend of paternity fraud is because of recent advancement in technology. It has been there for ages.

My hand no dey women vs men or vice versa.

It is not a gender war thread it is just calling out the obvious some of the men on nairaland are crying over paternity fraud but when their fellow men cheat they don't use the same tone they use on women.

No one wants to be cheated on but then some men should stop justifying infidelity and shaming those women who choose to not take it that is where the problem lies,the excuse and failure to hold men to account is the reason why infidelity hasn't reduced but keeps on increasing as men are also searching for other men's wives

It's only a foolish man that'll still keep his mouth shut to the extent of swallowing his anger even after discovering that his trust has been compromised by his wife .

Personally,I dey pray make I no be a victim of this paternity fraud cha.. Because it isn't something any man should wish for.

thorpido:
Nigeria has no such strong laws. I'm just talking about paternity fraud in general and not limiting to a Nigerian thing.

I for say!

AmazonTopaz:
First and foremost I don't support cheating and deception

Justification is support. Your position justifies "paternity fraud"; though your arguments are nonesensical. You use "whataboutism" to justify "paternity fraud"!

In response to the original question - of which you had provided the answer through your "justification for paternity"

In the case of Men: Men rarely bring their bastards home.

In the case of Women: Women often bring their bastards home.

In both cases the man:
1. Supports the child
2. Gives the child a name
3. Gives the child an inheritance

However, the woman could have
1. Insisted on protection
2. philandered at least chance of pregnancy
3. used birth control pills
4. get an abortion.

But, the woman chose to offload the child on the unsuspecting man.

So why do women do it?

Elporo:


Justification is support. Your position justifies "paternity fraud"; though your arguments are nonesensical. You use "whataboutism" to justify "paternity fraud"!

My arguments are not nonsensical and you know it I only pointed out the obvious hypocrisy and you didn't want to comprehend that fact.I am only pointing out how paternity fraud starts nobody is justifying anything here

In response to the original question - of which you had provided the answer through your "justification for paternity"

In the case of Men: Men rarely bring their bastards home

Don't call people or children bastards,also because men don't bring the children home doesn't change the fact that it is deceptive and hurting to the wife they don't bring their children home doesn't mean that they didn't cheat and could probably cause pain and betrayal to their wives it still doesn't make it better than paternity fraud.
The child that they don't bring home could be answering another man's name and the other man will believe the child to be his own so what is the difference is it not the same deception.

In the case of Women: Women often bring their bastards home.

In both cases the man:
1. Supports the child
2. Gives the child a name
3. Gives the child an inheritance

However, the woman could have
1. Insisted on protection
2. philandered at least chance of pregnancy
3. used birth control pills
4. get an abortion.

But, the woman chose to offload the child on the unsuspecting man.

So why do women do it?

Women give inheritance as well and some of them are left with no choice than to take care of their husbands outside child when the child is brought home and some of them swallow a bitter pill by seeing their children share inheritance with an outsider

You should ask your men who cannot stick to one woman and stay faithful,you should ask your men who couldn't remember their vows and use protection or better still have a vasectomy done ask them why they do it after all na dem be the hunters wey dey chase the women,is it not?

Lol at they should have an abortion I am very pro-choice but then isn't abortion illegal in Nigeria why not call the spade a spade and tell your men to respect their marriages and keep their legs intact.

If they don't they will keep going about impregnating other men's wives and failing to use protection.
Tell them to respect their wives and think about their children too

Paternity fraud started when Joseph fathered the son Mary gave birth to, who we all know as Jesus the Christ. And Joseph decided to play along.

In summary, the Bible is to blame for all this.

When I heard that DNA tests will reduce by 70%, I began to wonder the motive behind the reduction, is it to make money or to scatter homes? They think they want to help men by reducing it's costs, but they do not know that many men will develop heart attacks, most of them their lives will never remain the same again if their wives are guilty. As long as a child bears your name, and grows to love you like a parent, why fret, if you can forgive your wife, fine.

AmazonTopaz:

sub]1. My arguments are not nonsensical and you know it I only pointed out the obvious hypocrisy and you didn't want to comprehend that fact.I am only pointing out how paternity fraud starts nobody is justifying anything here [/sub]

1. Young lady, the woman makes the decision to 'take in' and/or keep the child. My first response listed 4 options an adulterous woman has. Why don't women prevent pregnancies, if they need to go outside to feed their sexual desires?


^{2. Don't call people or children bastards, also because men don't bring the children home doesn't change the fact that it is deceptive and hurting to the wife they don't bring their children home doesn't mean that they didn't cheat and could probably cause pain and betrayal to their wives it still doesn't make it better than paternity fraud.}

2(i). Nothing can change this. I am not sorry to say this - A child with an "unknown/unnamed" father is a bastard.
2(ii). Carrying another man's child for 9 months, deceiving your husband, parents, family, neighbors, and everybody else. Naming ceremonies, birthdays, sick days, memories .. all lies. Have you really sat down to think, about this - imagine one of your siblings belongs to your mother's ex-boyfriend? How do you think your father will feel or your brothers will feel? Men brag with their wives, Sons brag with their mothers!


_{3. Women give inheritance as well and some of them are left with no choice than to take care of their husbands outside child when the child is brought home and some of them swallow a bitter pill by seeing their children share inheritance with an outsider}

3(i). How often do men bring home their bastards? Mostly, they live with their mothers - who in many cases are not married. Men rarely bring home the bastards. Except, the mother is late or an edge case but most men will do anything to avoid it.
3(ii). And, when women bring bastards home, a first son that is a bastard - does he not inherit the lion's share? And, others do not inherit from their "live-in father".


_{4. You should ask your men who cannot stick to one woman and stay faithful, you should ask your men who couldn't remember their vows and use protection or better still have a vasectomy done.}

4(i). How often have you asked women similar questions?
4(ii). Have you asked yourself the question - why would I choose to not only be an adulterous wife but also keep evidence of my adultery? Not just that .. but deceive everyone that respects me and looks up to me. Why did I get married? Why don't I ask for a divorce?

5. Lol at they should have an abortion I am very pro-choice but then isn't abortion illegal in Nigeria why not call the spade a spade and tell your men to respect their marriages and keep their legs intact. If they don't they will keep going about impregnating other men's wives and failing to use protection.

5. Another nonsensical position. Do men have remote controls? They just hit play and a woman gives him unprotected sex, sex so unhindered she gets pregnant. I mean what is this leverage men have over women, that it is so easy to get a married woman to spread her legs. Perhaps, Uzoamka Ohiri can tell us about his magical power - I mean her son's real papa.

You cannot possibly understand this cos no husband can deceive you into raising a child that is not yours. Even if your baby is switched at birth, your husband is also at loss.

There is no close comparison for that kind of fraud.

Perhaps I can compare it to buying government owned land from a fake agent and building on it with your hard earned money and giving it your time and sweat only to find out the real owner when they charge you to court for trespassing.

Then you lose access to that land and no compensation is made to you.

Then later you find out that government decided to use your house as a short let apartment instead of demolishing it. They are making profit off your sweat and there’s nothing you can do.

They are like that because it's unfair to raise another man's child/children. Men bears the financial responsibilities of a household most times and it's so wrong and wicked to bring in a child by fraud.

LilMissFavvy:
When I heard that DNA tests will reduce by 70%, I began to wonder the motive behind the reduction, is it to make money or to scatter homes? They think they want to help men by reducing it's costs, but they do not know that many men will develop heart attacks, most of them their lives will never remain the same again if their wives are guilty. As long as a child bears your name, and grows to love you like a parent, why fret, if you can forgive your wife, fine.

WTF is this? You're a very wicked and selfish being! Would you have suggested this to your son, brother or uncle?

Lol Op, deceit is deceit and has to be found out, plain and simple

As much as I get your point of view, the fact that men and their nonsensical noise making doesn't change the fact that they breed children outside and cheat at will, that doesn't mean we shouldn't condemn what is wrong, we are in the internet age so everything can be made open easily, all these vices have been happening from time past, so it is nothing new, but let's do well to condemn what is wrong and never try to cover it up or make it seem justified.

For me, I condemn it all; having kids outside without the knowledge of your spouse, paternity fraud, that's deceit, and it is wrong.

The name calling is synonymous with NL males and I'm not bothered, It's too early to derail this thread.

MufasaLion:


WTF is this? You're a very wicked and selfish being! Would you have suggested this to your son, brother or uncle?

LilMissFavvy:
The name calling is synonymous with NL males and I'm not bothered, It's too early to derail this thread.

I ain't derailing no thread. Just respond to my question and don't be a hypocrite.

Paternity leave is a great development.

Bond with your babies guys.

Biden don suck your brain finish. From being a zombie in American politics thread to being a zombie in regards to paternity.

It is a simple stuff. As a man if you are in doubt of the paternity of your offspring , conduct that test and rest.

As a woman you know that your hands are clean but they still want to pinned paternity fraud on you, check the DNA of you and your child in the hospital, and rest and claim your dignity and honor.

Don't try to tell men otherwise with your WORDINGS.

By the way anyone with a good sense of justice and fairness and is allergic to nonsense and stupidity should be outrage to paternity fraud.

Very stupid question

Elporo:


1. Young lady, the woman makes the decision to 'take in' and/or keep the child. My first response listed 4 options an adulterous woman has. Why don't women prevent pregnancies, if they need to go outside to feed their sexual desires?

Young man,the man also takes the decision to use a condom or to release or not to release,you keep talking like you don't live in Nigeria or didn't grow up here,The mother takes what decision to keep what,with which healthcare in which country in Nigeria where healthcare is in a very sorry state,in Nigeria where abortion is illegal and to do some certain things you need spousal consent,stick to reality abeg.Well some women do prevent pregnancies while others were not so lucky,same can be said of men who fail to to use protection if they need to go outside and feed their sexual desires.

Nothing can change this. I am not sorry to say this - A child with an "unknown/unnamed" father is a bastard

It is not about changing anything the term bastard is obsolete and highly offensive you don't call people bastards it is no longer a fashionable term in popular use because it is considered offensive, discriminatory and derogatory.

Carrying another man's child for 9 months, deceiving your husband, parents, family, neighbours and everybody else. Naming ceremonies, birthdays, sick days, memories .. all lies. Have you really sat down to think, about this -

I have actually sat down it is terrible hence why the solution is telling men to stay faithful and stop following other men's wives.Men are also deceptive to themselves hence why their fellow men are now at the receiving end.

imagine one your siblings belongs to your mother's ex-boyfriend? How do you think your father will feel or your brothers will feel? Men brag with their wives, Sons brag with their mothers!

The same can be said about how my mother will feel if she finds out my father has a child outside,even my siblings and I won't take it lightly at all na the same pain and deception all of them dey cause.Women brag with their husbands after all they become Mrs. Daughters brag with their fathers

How often do men bring home thier bastards? Mostly, they live with their mothers - whom in many cases are not married. Men rarely bring home the bastards

Where did you carry out the statistics that most of them are not married?whether it is a few cases it doesn't negate the fact that that could be a scenario,some men don't bring their outside children let burial come then one child will appear then the wife and kids will be shattered to make it worse the man is even dead.They bring them home too

Except , the mother is late or an edge case but most men will do anything to avoid it.

That some of them will try to avoid it does it make it right or negate the fact that they committed deceit and cheated

And, when women bring bastards home, a first son that is a bastard - does he not inherit the lions share? And, others do they not inherit from there "live-in father"

I am tired of seeing the obsolete term 'bastard' so sad,the outside child of the father could also be reaping another man's share of the property too it is a sad and disastrous cycle.Even an illegitimate child is entitled to an inheritance these days no big difference adopted and foster kids inherit too.

How often have you asked women similar questions?
4(ii). Have you asked yourself the question - why would I choose to not only be an adulterous wife but also keep evidence of my adultery? Not just that .. but decieve everyone that respects me and looks up to me. Why did I get married? Why dont I ask for a divorce

Women have always been asked these questions that is why they have found it hard to cheat and they tend to forgive cheating husbands because they on the other take their vows very seriously.Your question 4(ii) when you direct it at men you get your answer also add the additional questions why don't they just divorce the women take another wife if allowed or better still remain single and stop causing pain on their wives and outrightly disrespecting them by fathering children outside.

Another nonesensical position. Do men have remote controls? They just hit play and a women gives him unprotected sex, sex so unhindered she gets pregnant. I mean what is this leverage men have over women, that it is so easy to get a married woman to spread her legs. Perhaps, Uzoamka Ohiri can tell us about his magical powers men have over women.

I can say the same that your position is nonsensical,now you remember men don't have remote controls but you seem to forget that some men justify their infidelity by saying their third leg does the most for them and they can't control it hence why some of them here even excuse rapist.Also why are you still failing to see the bigger picture and holding your men to account, perhaps Uzoamaka Ohiri's brother in-law who is married to her sister can tell us the magical powers women and his third leg have over him that he couldn't remember his vow and stick to his wife he couldn't even get protection but went on to impregnate his wife's sister.

Why are women angry when a man brings a child from an illicit affair home?

There in you'll find the answer that you seek.

Olafisoyem:


You’re talking nonsense and conflating two different things.

If a man brings a bastard home then the woman has a choice to leave/stay or look after the child - she knows.

If a woman does the same and doesn’t inform the man then that’s deception on a another level for various reasons.

Wisdom.

Many women sef blatantly refused to take care of a man's kids if the father is either widowed or divorced. They'll put a fellow woman's kids through hell. Yet they're here justifying rubbish.

Dalil8:
Why do women treat other women kids living with them inhumanely?

Bless you bro

Op what is your point exactly? We should blame men for paternity fraud? Or Paternity fraud is justified because they have kids outside? You are making it seem like a competition, why?

oo