Look who would have been the winners.

Its not based on goals alone

Kingcalls:
Its not based on goals alone

Exactly.

[quote author=Kingcalls post=106687402]Children of these days think its only by goals...

sepp Blatter destroyed the awards when he started favoring Messi

Messi won Balon D'or in 2009 before the merger between FIFA & French Football Magazine in 2010. Was it Sepp Blatter the one that told all the eligible journalists, club and national team coaches and captains to vote for Messi in 2009??

this award used to be based on a particular platers influence in his team winning major trophies.... 1 world cup,2 Euros, 3Champions league, 4 league title ( top 4 league , namely England , Spain Italy and Germany) .... thats y players like zidane , cannavaro , Rivaldo, kaka won it in the past... but 2010 was the year Blatter destroyed that award

Euro is a continental tournament just like Afcon and Copa. it does not belong to that category. if Euro is there Copa America and Afcon should also be there

1990 Germany won ( lother mattaus won it)
1994 Brazil won ( Romario won it)
1998 France won ( zidane won it)
2002 Brazil won ( Ronaldo de Lima won it)
2006 Italy won ( Cannavaro won it)
2010 Spain won(and they fraudulently gave it to messi

and why did you skip 1997 & 1999 that Ronaldo and Rivaldo won with Copa America? I thought you are trying to downplay Copa's relevance??

Football is a team sport , so it should be based on the most important player in the team that helped the team win major trophies.... Afcon , copa , concacaf, ASN , has never been in contention for this awards

I dare you to mention one player that was miles ahead of everyone by producing outstanding performances in Afcon, Concacaf, Asia cup and club that was denied Balon D'or.....Just one!

if they were considered, then maybe they should also consider winners of copa libetedores , caf champions league and Asian champions league [quote] Like i said earlier, mention one outstanding player in Copa libertedores, CCL & ACL that didn't win Balon D'or since they started considering non Europeans for the award. [quote]they can't all of a sudden wanna consider copa just cos messi won it... copa that teams hv been winning yearly but non was ever considered a nominee

Rivaldo won Ballon D'or in 1999 after not making it into UCL quarter-finals with Barca, what do you think was responsible? His 1999 Copa America win of course.

Ronaldo De Lima won Ballon D'or in 1997 without getting anywhere in UCL or even winning Serie A, what did you think was responsible?

2000, Figo won B'Dor despite Portugal's elimination at Euro semi-finals.

2004, Shevchenko did not come from Greece

especially alexis sanchez in 2016 than won it and also lead a weak arsenal side to a 2nd place finish....he wasn't even among top 30 that year...how Messi is being considered is baffling

In 2016, Sanchez had a good stats. Was his individual performance Balon D'or worthy despite his 48goals and assists combined? No, because others had better stats. In 2016, winning Copa America was not enough to get Sanchez nominated because his individual performance was dwarfed by other players compare to Messi whose individual stats can only be matched by Lewandoski in 2021.

In 2016, Sanchez was not EPL top Scorer nor Best Player but in 2021, Messi topped goal chart in Spain and had the highest goal contribution in Europe.

In 2016, Sanchez was Copa America Best Player while in 2021, Messi was not just the Best Player in Copa America but also topped goal chart.

Look at the screenshot carefully, In 2016, Messi had 51 goals plus 29 assists which means he was involved in 80 goals and assists.

while Ronaldo had 44goals and 16 assists which means he was involved in 60 goals and assists.

Messi had a better individual stats in 2016 but Ronaldo backed his with UCL & Euros.

Now compare Sanchez's stats with those that were nominated let's see if he would even stand a chance.

Thierryjay, please permit me to use some of your points to expose this lies concocted to discredit Messi's exploit in Copa America.

and some people still blind even after these numbers... Leo na big cheat jhare..

Children of these days think its only by goals...sepp Blatter destroyed the awards when he started favoring Messi.... this award used to be based on a particular platers influence in his team winning major trophies.... 1 world cup,2 Euros, 3Champions league, 4 league title ( top 4 league , namely England , Spain Italy and Germany) .... thats y players like zidane , cannavaro , Rivaldo, kaka won it in the past... but 2010 was the year Blatter destroyed that award ...

1990 Germany won ( lother mattaus won it)
1994 Brazil won ( Romario won it)
1998 France won ( zidane won it)
2002 Brazil won ( Ronaldo de Lima won it)
2006 Italy won ( Cannavaro won it)
2010 Spain won(and they fraudulently gave it to messi

That was how the award started being trash ...they now started making it based on goals... those saying JORGINHO should mot be mentioned are kids... they think its just by goals..or are they saying other positions on the pitch are not important??

If u measure the offensive players by goals and assists...the then defensive players should be measured by tackles won or break in the oppositions offensive play... and other defensive stuff... VVD in the 90s wud hv won the balon dor so as iniesta, greizmann , Neuer or muller and JORGINHO definitely this season

Football is a team sport , so it should be based on the most important player in the team that helped the team win major trophies.... Afcon , copa , concacaf, ASN , has never been in contention for this awards... if they were considered, then maybe they should also consider winners of copa libetedores , caf champions league and Asian champions league...they can't all of a sudden wanna consider copa just cos messi won it... copa that teams hv been winning yearly but non was ever considered a nominee ...especially alexis sanchez in 2016 than won it and also lead a weak arsenal side to a 2nd place finish....he wasn't even among top 30 that year...how Messi is being considered is baffling

Kingcalls:
Children of these days think its only by goals...sepp Blatter destroyed the awards when he started favoring Messi.... this award used to be based on a particular platers influence in his team winning major trophies.... 1 world cup,2 Euros, 3Champions league, 4 league title ( top 4 league , namely England , Spain Italy and Germany) .... thats y players like zidane , cannavaro , Rivaldo, kaka won it in the past... but 2010 was the year Blatter destroyed that award ...

1990 Germany won ( lother mattaus won it)
1994 Brazil won ( Romario won it)
1998 France won ( zidane won it)
2002 Brazil won ( Ronaldo de Lima won it)
2006 Italy won ( Cannavaro won it)
2010 Spain won(and they fraudulently gave it to messi

That was how the award started being trash ...they now started making it based on goals... those saying JORGINHO should mot be mentioned are kids... they think its just by goals..or are they saying other positions on the pitch are not important??

If u measure the offensive players by goals and assists...the then defensive players should be measured by tackles won or break in the oppositions offensive play... and other defensive stuff... VVD in the 90s wud hv won the balon dor so as iniesta, greizmann , Neuer or muller and JORGINHO definitely this season

Football is a team sport , so it should be based on the most important player in the team that helped the team win major trophies.... Afcon , copa , concacaf, ASN , has never been in contention for this awards... if they were considered, then maybe they should also consider winners of copa libetedores , caf champions league and Asian champions league...they can't all of a sudden wanna consider copa just cos messi won it... copa that teams hv been winning yearly but non was ever considered a nominee ...especially alexis sanchez in 2016 than won it and also lead a weak arsenal side to a 2nd place finish....he wasn't even among top 30 that year...how Messi is being considered is baffling

You sabi ball. Nice job you are doing schooling those messi urchins.

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My guy carry go nothing do you. Sorry I'm just seeing this.

ojaysam25:

You sabi ball. Nice job you are doing schooling those messi urchins.

An half-baked incoherent analyst dey feed you with lamba, you are saying it's schooling. Was that how your smart teachers back in school used to lie to you? OJS you are way better off than to gobble up Kingcall's lies just because you find your self on the same anti-Messi divide.

He is telling you Copa is nothing and has never produced Ballon Dor. Pls ask your friend how Rivaldo and De Lima won the Ballon D'or based on their Copa wins in 99 & 97 when both did not go far in UCL or in any other non-league continental tournament those years. Or did Kaka, Copa 2007 winner, not win Ballon D'or same year?

For over 30 years, Copa winner has produced more Ballon d'or winners than Euros winners. And that's the fact that Kingwhatèver, your supposed schooler, does not know and will not tell you.

You're smarter than this bro.

ThierryJay:


An half-baked incoherent analyst dey feed you with lamba, you are saying it's schooling. Was that how your smart teachers back in school used to lie to you? OJS you are way better off than to gobble up Kingcall's lies just because you find your self on the same anti-Messi divide.

He is telling you Copa is nothing and has never produced Ballon Dor. Pls ask your friend how Rivaldo and De Lima won the Ballon D'or based on their Copa wins in 99 & 97 when both did not go far in UCL or in any other non-league continental tournament those years. Or did Kaka, Copa 2007 winner, not win Ballon D'or same year?

For over 30 years, Copa winner has produced more Ballon d'or winners than Euros winners. And that's the fact that Kingwhatèver, your supposed schooler, does not know and will not tell you.

You're smarter than this bro.

Word!