Krismas:
Okay if a doctor does not know, how about a RENOWNED VIROLOGIST like Montagnier? Who descovred HIV? Montagnier say the Covid vaccine is a SCIENTIFIC MISTAKE! How about that?

That's because the vaccine came too early, not because it's from the pit of hell.. professionals are free to carry out more researches, as there is always room for modification..
Enenche spoke out of religious sentiment here

Goldenurch:


I'm ashamed that he, being a medical doctor will talk like this..
Didn't his children take the compulsory polio vaccine? Why didn't he refuse them from vaccine immunisation? Didn't you take polio vaccine as a child? Why all this noise now? What he should be talking about is conducting another research to confirm the efficacy of the vaccine, as it seems quite too early to develop a vaccine that would be 98% effective..
Religious sentiment is not Christianity...we need to wake up

How many children are forced to take the polio vaccine?!! As in against the wish and choice of the parents?!! Abi you don't know the meaning of "Compulsory"?!!

....Or you don't know how we got to this point of massive and early vaccination against polio and other diseases?!!

That's like saying anti retroviral and TB drugs are "Compulsory" or forced on people...

Get the message here, and let's do the right thing... Not encouraging tyranny!!!

Workch:
You don't seem to me like someone who knows how idiosyncrasies in pharmacology works hence your initial comments.

Whether your govenrment is useless or not, it has nothing to do with taking a vaccine to stop a pandemic. Deal with your government and take the vaccine

Take the vaccine if you want to, I'll advise others to depend on natural immunity. If the pandemic was as deadly as they claim, there'll be no need to force people to take it. We can agree to disagree.

You lack discernment.
All those vaccines we took as children, were our parents threatened with their jobs or livelihoods if they failed to ensure we take it.

Was there ever a law that stated that unvaccinated children cannot enter a plane?


There are many places in the core North today were nobody takes polio vaccine

That you cannot discern that something different is powering the governments of this world concerning this vaccine is a disservice to your analytical abilities.

There are two major reasons why this vaccine is being forced down our throats and the first is profit.

Getting the whole world to take vaccines every six months ensures that the companies producing it will eventually become 20 times bigger than they were before Covid.

The second reason is more sinister but let's leave it alone.

Goldenurch:


I'm ashamed that he, being a medical doctor will talk like this..
Didn't his children take the compulsory polio vaccine? Why didn't he refuse them from vaccine immunisation? Didn't you take polio vaccine as a child? Why all this noise now? What he should be talking about is conducting another research to confirm the efficacy of the vaccine, as it seems quite too early to develop a vaccine that would be 98% effective..
Religious sentiment is not Christianity...we need to wake up

Krismas:
If paracetamol gives a child jaundice the first time, I think it will be dumb to repeat it for the same child subsequently? Which roughly then mean everybody cannot take paracetamol. Same thing too Covid vaccine. So the compulsion is dumb

Same applies to covid29 vaccine.
There is no pharmaceutical product that will not have adverse reactions on some people.
The idea of any pharmaceutical product is for the collective benefits to outweigh the risks. Lay people don't understand that part of pharmacology.

If people who have superficial knowledge about things like can ask questions then maybe we will not have alot of ignoramuses saying nonsense about what they know nothing about

Workch:
That's not how it works, you already have bais and that's why you think the vaccine caused it even as data states otherwise.

Illiterate are not well versatile in their reasoning, an educated person would not reach such poor and myopic conclusion without properly factoring in other possible causes and probabilities.

Your reasoning is getting dumber by the minute.

So, it is my bias that caused a grown woman to fall sick immediately after receiving a vaccine?

You should quit trying to defend rubbish.

Workch:
Let me get your problem.

Are you saying that the vaccine has side effect/ doesn't work or healthy people shouldn't be forced to take the vaccine irrespective of whether it works or not?

Honestly, I desire, wish and encourage everyone to get the vaccine sir. Especially those at high risk due to comorbidity and compromised immunity.

Whatever side effects the vaccine has are not sufficient to stall or halt its need.

However, this doesn't mean it should be forced upon people or they blackmailed (emphasis here) to get it!!!... The unvaccinated should not be a risk to anyone but themselves! Why push them to get jabbed against their will?!! And you expect even the least suspicious among them not to raise eyebrows?!!... Think sir, think!!!

VULCAN:
You lack discernment.
All those vaccines we took as children, were our parents threatened with their jobs or livelihoods if they failed to ensure we take it.

Was there ever a law that stated that unvaccinated children cannot enter a plane?


There are many places in the core North today were nobody takes polio vaccine

That you cannot discern that something different is powering the governments of this world concerning this vaccine is a disservice to your analytical abilities.

There are two major reasons why this vaccine is being forced down our throats and the he first is profit.

Getting the whole world to take vaccines every six months ensures that the companies producing it will eventually become 20 times bigger than they were before Covid.

The second reason is more sinister but let's leave it alone.

Your God will bless you. You dey see wella

Your pastor adeboye don collect o. He say na for d gospel. Nonsense people

Goldenurch:


That's because the vaccine came too early, not because it's from the pit of hell.. professionals are free to carry out more researches, as there is always room for modification..
Enenche spoke out of religious sentiment here

If professionals are free to research more, then why are people being forced or panicked or even blackmailed into getting jabbed?!!

Are the vaccinated still at high risk from the unvaccinated?!! If yes, then what is the point of getting vaccinated?!!

This Pastor should just keep quite and continue in the place of prayers.

Workch:
Same applies to covid29 vaccine.
There is no pharmaceutical product that will not have adverse reactions on some people.
The idea of any pharmaceutical product is for the collective benefits to outweigh the risks. Lay people don't understand that part of pharmacology.

If people who have superficial knowledge about things like can ask questions then maybe we will not have alot of ignoramuses saying nonsense about what they know nothing about

No one is against the vaccine. What started making everyone suspicious was the compulsion. The more the compulsion, the more people will become even more suspicious. I will advise people wait to see the long-term effects of vaccination, before they even consider it. It's that simple.

Tdoctor:


Take the vaccine if you want to, I'll advise others to depend on natural immunity. If the pandemic was as deadly as they claim, there'll be no need to force people to take it. We can agree to disagree.

That's an ignorant statement to make and its the problem we scientists have with the populace even the so called medical professionals..

The essesnce of vaccination is not just to eradicate the pathogen, it's also prevents the pathogen from evolving into a more virulent strain in the future. It's the reason why people are encouraged to take it so we can stop the mutation once and for all if we acquire herd immunity. If you don't get hr vaccine, you are automatically a reservoir for the virus to mutate.

We have seen this several times in the history of man, the H1N1 pandemic that killed 70million people in 1918 didn't start with a new virus. It was a product of a constantly evolving influenza virus.

If we don't acquire herd immunity of covid19, there's a possibility that it will evolve into a very deadly strain in the nearest future. You may not understand what I am saying but with just little knowledge of biology, you will get how this works.

You are on your own
The so-called pastors too...

Amuluonyenaego:
Pls don't listen to pastor Righteousness on this one, everybody should get vaccinated as some pastors are doing it secretly yet continue telling members that it's from the pit of hell. Who is fooling who here

Workch:
You don't seem to me like someone who knows how idiosyncrasies in pharmacology works hence your initial comments.

Whether your govenrment is useless or not, it has nothing to do with taking a vaccine to stop a pandemic. Deal with your government and take the vaccine

Sorry sir, did u say u are a prof? I feel badly let down. U are completely off the mark. For first, u don’t know about viral infection more dan Montagnier, he discovered HIV and has a Nobel prize in medicine. He said the vaccine is a scientific mistake! He said the Covid vaccine actually FEED the virus and its wots responsible for all the mutations and variants. U don’t know more than Yeadon in vaccine making. He said whoever talks the Covid vaccine does not have more 3yrs to live. Do more research on the vaccine and stop being shallow

Tdoctor:


No one is against the vaccine. What started making everyone suspicious was the compulsion. The more the compulsion, the more people will become even more suspicious. I will advise people wait to see the long-term effects of vaccination, before they even consider it. It's that simple.

If I offer to give you medical and scientific reasons as to why it's been compelled, will you listen to it?

wolebest:
This Pastor should just keep quite and continue in the place of prayers.

Please he is a doctor and a lot of his members are deep in the medical field. He has every right to speak. Praying does not imply closing your eyes to what is happening around you.

Angelfrost:


How many children are forced to take the polio vaccine?!! As in against the wish and choice of the parents?!! Abi you don't know the meaning of "Compulsory"?!!

....Or you don't know how we got to this point of massive and early vaccination against polio and other diseases?!!

That's like saying anti retroviral and TB drugs are "Compulsory" or forced on people...

Get the message here, and let's do the right thing... Not encouraging tyranny!!!

AT or TB drugs aren't vaccines first of all, and nobody forces anybody to take the Covid vaccine.
Also there are parents in parts of Northern and even southern Nigeria who refuse to allow their wards take polio vaccine, until they are properly educated about it, and then allow for it to be administered..

All the government said is that you won't be allowed to government offices if you haven't taken the vaccine by December...they also prevent people from accessing various venues without a face mask, and social distancing is almost a law at some venues, including some airports, and yet you guys didn't have an issue with it.

If you don't want the vaccine, don't take it, but you can't put people at risk because of your selfishness, and expect government to keep quiet about it, and then yap that it is from the pit of hell

geemd434:
Your pastor adeboye don collect o. He say na for d gospel. Nonsense people

He collected because it is a requirement to access countries he visits... That's being law abiding sir. Not because he fears for his life.

Adeboye never discouraged anyone from getting jabbed, neither did Enenche... He is talking about abuse of people's rights to choose.

You would know this simple distinction if you could read clearly, and were not blinded by hate for these men!!!

Krismas:
Sorry sir, did u say u are a prof? I feel badly let down. U are completely off the mark. For first, u don’t know about viral infection more dan Montagnier, he discovered HIV and has a Nobel prize in medicine. He said the vaccine is a scientific mistake! He said the Covid vaccine actually FEED the virus and its wots responsible for all the mutations and variants. U don’t know more than Yeadon in vaccine making. He said whoever talks the Covid vaccine does not have more 3yrs to live. Do more research on the vaccine and stop being shallow

more and more conspiracies. Damn

Show me a proof of him saying this and I will believe you

jesusjnr2020:
The covid-19 vaccine is certainly not the mark of the beast, however I believe it's more like a precursor, which would be used to prepare the ground and to test run some of the plans and ideas for it.

I believe this.

Angelfrost:


Honestly, I desire, wish and encourage everyone to get the vaccine sir. Especially those at high risk due to comorbidity and compromised immunity.

Whatever side effects the vaccine has are not sufficient to stall or halt its need.

However, this doesn't mean it should be forced upon people or they blackmailed (emphasis here) to get it!!!... The unvaccinated should not be a risk to anyone but themselves! Why push them to get jabbed against their will?!! And you expect even the least suspicious among them not to raise eyebrows?!!... Think sir, think!!!

Do you know what we call "herd immunity" in epidemiology?

jesusjnr2020:
The covid-19 vaccine is certainly not the mark of the beast, however I believe it's more like a precursor, which would be used to prepare the ground and to test run some of the plans and ideas for it.

Don't be deceived, the devil will not announce that the mark is ready, he will do it cunningly with many not suspecting anything.
Just be at alert

effort1:


Your reasoning is getting dumber by the minute.

So, it is my bias that caused a grown woman to fall sick immediately after receiving a vaccine?

You should quit trying to defend rubbish.

You are illiterate who lacks the ability to make clear conclusions.

That's why you can't explore more possibke cases to her ailments

Workch:
If I offer to give you medical and scientific reasons as to why it's been compelled, will you listen to it?

Medical and scientific reasons will never outweigh people's perception of social justice. You have to create trust before carrying out such a widespread vaccination. If they have refused us palliatives but now want to give us vaccine, we have every right, and I'm actually being wise, to refuse it. The governments of this world have lost their credibility, and the scientific world is working hard at losing the credibility too.

The vaccine is "No" for me, and I will advise others to wait and see the long-term effects.

Goldenurch:



AT or TB drugs aren't vaccines first of all, and nobody forces anybody to take the Covid vaccine.
Also there are parents in parts of Northern and even southern Nigeria who refuse to allow their wards take polio vaccine, until they are properly educated about it, and then allow for it to be administered..

All the government said is that you won't be allowed to government offices if you haven't taken the vaccine by December...they also prevent people from accessing various venues without a face mask, and social distancing is almost a law at some venues, including some airports, and yet you guys didn't have an issue with it.

If you don't want the vaccine, don't take it, but you can't put people at risk because of your selfishness, and expect government to keep quiet about it, and then yap that it is from the pit of hell

You are neither here nor there...

How exactly can unvaccinated staff members put vaccinated staff members at risk?!!

If not compulsory, why then insist that they spend hard earned money getting tests every week when they are in no way a risk to those they work with?!! Didn't these same people work throughout last year till now without coming down sick?!!

Come up with a more cerebral argument if you can, not chanting along the clueless bandwagon.

We are talking rights here not religion!!! Thank you.

Tdoctor:


I disagree with you. The attack of the mainstream media and active efforts to silence any persons who complain of adverse effects should set off red flags. The adverse events from COVID vaccine are too high to allow its usage. This people are planning something ungood.

There is nothing "ungood" here..The vaccines aren't perfect, as they have come early, but that doesn't mean it's totally bad..the media is just trying to prevent people from discouraging others from the idea of vaccine..if a better vaccine is developed, it would definitely be accepted..

Tdoctor:


Medical and scientific reasons will never outweigh people's perception of social justice. You have to create trust before carrying out such a widespread vaccination. If they have refused us palliatives but now want to give us vaccine, we have every right, and I'm actually being wise, to refuse it. The governments of this world have lost their credibility, and the scientific world is working hard at losing the credibility too.

The vaccine is "No" for me, and I will advise others to wait and see the long-term effects.

You cannot create trust where you have indoctrination and religious fanaticism. Most especially in the democratic setting, everyone even idiots have a voice

Do you want to know why it's scientifically valid to compel people to take the vaccine or not?

zangiff:
Ignorance will not kill people. I've been vaccinated and nothing happen. Illiteracy na bad thing Biko

what if you had died after the vaccination would you still call others illiterate because you took something that you don't even know its made of, Paul enenche is one of the many pastoprenoures in Nigeria but he is medical doctor, are you more learned than him medicine

zangiff:
Ignorance will not kill people. I've been vaccinated and nothing happen. Illiteracy na bad thing Biko

audio vaccinated

Jesuschristus:
Millions of prayers didnt eradicate polio or smallpox,it was vaccine that eradicated it completely from the face of the earth.Think abt that

Aswearugaaad

True. But was it by force, though? Think about that.

Workch:
That's an ignorant statement to make and its the problem we scientists have with the populace even the so called medical professionals..

The essesnce of vaccination is not just to eradicate the pathogen, it's also prevents the pathogen from evolving into a more virulent strain in the future. It's the reason why people are encouraged to take it so we can stop the mutation once and for all if we acquire herd immunity. If you don't get hr vaccine, you are automatically a reservoir for the virus to mutate.

We have seen this several times in the history of man, the H1N1 pandemic that killed 70million people in 1918 didn't start with a new virus. It was a product of a constantly evolving influenza virus.

If we don't acquire herd immunity of covid19, there's a possibility that it will evolve into a very deadly strain in the nearest future. You may not understand what I am saying but with just little knowledge of biology, you will get how this works.

Hunger and malaria have killed far more people on the planet, they should work on both of them first.